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corollas suck!LjasonL 01-22-2002, 01:06 AM well i got my rental car for the week while they fix my scoob, a 2001 toyota corolla. :( :( :( if this isnt the worst handling car ive ever ridden in, i dont know what is. my buddys range rover will out corner it for christs sake! not to mention a complete lack of go! on the bright side i managed to outrun an integra 4 door automatic and an 88 prelude si tonight! (wow great kills huh?) and raced a camaro ss, then we pulled up next to him and i said "congratulations u just outran A COROLLA!" CAptynCrunch 01-22-2002, 06:39 AM hey, easy on the corollas :) yes, although a 2001 might be a piece of crap and the worst handling car ever, the 1987's were possibly the greatest handling car ever. Ah the good old ae86 trueno. nothing will beat it done a winding moutain road. chenZen 01-22-2002, 09:54 AM actually, the trueno was a cross between the old corolla and celica. LjasonL 01-22-2002, 03:59 PM oh yeah i love the old corollas back when they were rwd those are one of my favorite cars! i should have said "modern corollas suck" i guess btw not only does riding in it make u feel skanky, it makes u feel like a skanky girl. luisangel166 02-28-2002, 09:18 AM out of all cars made in the world the toyota corollas are one of the most long lasting cars ever made ,and as for racng how are you going t o race a four cylinder 1.6 vs. a 6 or 8 cylinder 2.8 or 3.0,it doesnt make sense to do that.for example take a 1980 corolla with a 3tc engine and do some slight modifications like making the car a four barrel carb and change the fywheel and clutch with a weaver sytem and a fuel mag you will be pushin 0-60 in 5 seconds or less (if you know how to race the right way)im a toyota fan the only car that toyota has that is a piece of crap is the prius ,but beside s that the toyota are the top liner cars.i have a supra that has a greddy muffler system ,a t-88 turbo with intercooler ,fluidine radiator, short cam gears,je pistons,titanium valve springs,billet connecting rods,port and polish,all upgrades on drive train,sparco torino seat with a five point harness,bomex body kit ,brombo brake system set of wheels from hr,both of my cars will take out your piece of crap subaru and the piece of crap camaro . MaFi0s0 02-28-2002, 09:55 AM Im an unfortunate owner of a toyota camry wich im gonna sell soon, and im reconsidering buying a toyota because the amount of body roll on this car is amazing, it leans around corners at 20kmh (~15mph) that ontop of the poor powersteering just makes it a peice of shit for AU$5000 (my dad bought me it). my friend crashed the peice of shit afew weeks ago, the accedent wouldnt of happened if the car wouldnt lean around corners and bends. im really wondering wtf is the point of a car having body roll. TatII 02-28-2002, 10:17 AM luisangel166 whoa easy there. ldelaysionl wasn't bashing toyota. he was even givin props to the old AE86's. i mean if the new corolla is that bad of a car, then let it be. no manufacture makes every car nice. its just not possible. i tend to consider the matrix as the new corolla no the corolla. and i've driven the less recent corolla's (95) and that thing had absolutely no power~! but then again, its only a corolla. i shouldn't expect much from it. Tom_S8 02-28-2002, 10:58 AM My friend had one back in 97 , he took it out of the dealership , and after driving it around , the next day he went to performance parts shop and ordered a full sport suspension package... Althought the 1.4 engine hasn't got much pulling power , but it still was too much for that suspension... Then he sold it and got a supra and now he is ... :bandit: NSX 02-28-2002, 12:01 PM i hope toyota brings back the Trueno only 980 kg (i think)...coupled with a FR drivetrain:) CAptynCrunch 02-28-2002, 06:23 PM I think they might be thinking the same thing, anyone seen the add for the new Corolla S? I don't know any specs or if there will be a rear drive version or anyhting, but hey, it's got potential :) On another note, there's a mint condition 86 or 87 GTS parked at a house out by the mall near my house. Me and my cousin saw it when we were searching for a friends apartment and it's just been sitting there, I've only seen it move once in like 3 months. I'm thinking of getting like $2000 together and jsut knocking on the guys door and offering him it cause he doesn't seem to drive it very much. Then i could have some real fun :) 1.6L 16 valve DOHC at like 1900lbs worth of fun :) NSX-R-SSJ20K 02-28-2002, 06:58 PM corollas do suck and why on earth does stylincompacts.com have a corolla with a supra wing on it utterly gay and pointless flylwsi 02-28-2002, 07:34 PM well... since i happen to work at this utterly gay place, where is it on my site? oh, and just for clarification. the pics we have are from the manufacturers, so ask them why they are utterly gay for having the pic... anything else? you are really stepping on toes here pal. Shrike117 03-01-2002, 02:32 PM You can't say a car sucks just because it wasn't designed for racing. I drive a used '99 Corolla VE and considering my income I'm proud of what I got. I didn't find any major handling problems with my car (maybe because I'm to used to it). One time I had a camaro tailing-gating me and I was about to enter an tight S-curve slick with black ice. I entered the curve at 110kph, used LFB, and (with all four wheels sliding) just sailed through that S-curve exiting at 100kph. The camaro driver would have to be a master at the Scandinavian Flick in order to keep up with me in the turns. In roads with a lot of curves horsepower isn't the main factor. I'm confident enough to say RWDs cannot beat me in curves without heel-and-toeing (rare skill), but of course I wouldn't waste time with outclassing cars especially AWDs. Good drivers make the best of a bad car. LjasonL 03-06-2002, 02:58 AM Originally posted by luisangel166 out of all cars made in the world the toyota corollas are one of the most long lasting cars ever made ,and as for racng how are you going t o race a four cylinder 1.6 vs. a 6 or 8 cylinder 2.8 or 3.0,it doesnt make sense to do that.for example take a 1980 corolla with a 3tc engine and do some slight modifications like making the car a four barrel carb and change the fywheel and clutch with a weaver sytem and a fuel mag you will be pushin 0-60 in 5 seconds or less (if you know how to race the right way)im a toyota fan the only car that toyota has that is a piece of crap is the prius ,but beside s that the toyota are the top liner cars.i have a supra that has a greddy muffler system ,a t-88 turbo with intercooler ,fluidine radiator, short cam gears,je pistons,titanium valve springs,billet connecting rods,port and polish,all upgrades on drive train,sparco torino seat with a five point harness,bomex body kit ,brombo brake system set of wheels from hr,both of my cars will take out your piece of crap subaru and the piece of crap camaro . whoa easy there turbo... like tatII said i wasnt bashing toyotas, toyota is one of my favorite manufacturers and makes more of my favorite cars than anyone else... but the truth is the 2001 corolla i had was a slow piece of shit that cornered like crap. maybe it was just that particular car, who knows. u said both of your cars so im assuming your other car is a 80 corolla right? well as a matter of fact i like 80 corollas but please dont talk about your modified car smoking my stock subaru cuz if they were both stock i would hand u your ass. with enough mods anything can beat anything else, but from the factory my car is superior to an 80 corolla in pretty much every way... and if your doing 0-60 in 5-6 seconds i bet i could give u a good run anyways. oh and does it make u feel good that your supra with all that crap in it can beat my stock subaru station wagon? if my car had all that stuff i almost guarantee it would outrun your supra anyway. NSX-R-SSJ20K 03-06-2002, 06:50 PM Originally posted by flylwsi well... since i happen to work at this utterly gay place, where is it on my site? oh, and just for clarification. the pics we have are from the manufacturers, so ask them why they are utterly gay for having the pic... anything else? you are really stepping on toes here pal. its actually in the catalog tell the manufacturer to get a clue :D they aren't going to sell those i have a corolla and it is good for nothing except moving from A to B the site isn't the utterly gay and pointless bit its the Car ! No offense intended :smoker: BladesM3 04-16-2002, 02:14 AM Boy a lot of you have fast mouths when it comes to the new corollas considering you know nothing about them. Also considering they have the same engine as the new Celica GT and MR@ Spyder, with a few modifications you can get one to beat a semi-fixed up GSR. Not like that’s super fast but I know that’s a lot better then most of the cars in here cant do. For some pictures and specs of the new Corolla go here…. http://www.cthreeracing.com 2002 Turbo Corolla passing you…. ::psssssssst:: ImportScene 04-16-2002, 03:27 AM http://www.superstreetonline.com/cms/editorial/media/p141676_image_large.jpg http://push2play.home.mindspring.com/DSCN0692.JPG http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/2daf31ff/bc/cars/front---1.jpg?bc.NRB9AUVXG0_Tl http://bapo.homestead.com/files/H3RO_2.jpg http://www.calpoly.edu/~nto/rolla.JPG http://www.hardwarecomp.homestead.com/files/c3logo3.jpg http://www.hiplick.com/hkcorolla/images/star200109/2a.jpg http://munky.org/citrus/cthreesig.jpg http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/6836e08d/bc/My+Photos/c3meet16+copy.jpg?bceUW88AbOCkozpT http://www.corolla-racing.com/images/eric_andree_4.jpg COROLLA for you guys! LjasonL 04-16-2002, 03:40 AM Originally posted by ImportScene http://www.superstreetonline.com/cms/editorial/media/p141676_image_large.jpg http://push2play.home.mindspring.com/DSCN0692.JPG http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/2daf31ff/bc/cars/front---1.jpg?bc.NRB9AUVXG0_Tl http://bapo.homestead.com/files/H3RO_2.jpg http://www.calpoly.edu/~nto/rolla.JPG http://www.hardwarecomp.homestead.com/files/c3logo3.jpg http://www.hiplick.com/hkcorolla/images/star200109/2a.jpg http://munky.org/citrus/cthreesig.jpg http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/6836e08d/bc/My+Photos/c3meet16+copy.jpg?bceUW88AbOCkozpT http://www.corolla-racing.com/images/eric_andree_4.jpg COROLLA for you guys! those cars are pretty gay dude. not cuz theyre corollas, but cuz most of them are kinda (by kinda i mean pretty) ricey. if i were u i would find some classier cars to represent your beloved corolla. :) the black one next to the "toy rolla" looks kinda nice, but the rest of them? :apuke: tasteless LjasonL 04-16-2002, 03:53 AM Originally posted by BladesM3 Also considering they have the same engine as the new Celica GT and MR@ Spyder oh thats the same engine that propels the corolla s to an 8.8 second 0-60 and a 16.6 second quarter mile at 88mph? :hehehe: and the 95 corolla dx to a 10.2 second 0-60 and a 17.6 second quarter? :spit: youre right, that corolla IS a powerhouse! :rolleyes: the corolla s is only 0.1 seconds faster through the 1/4 than a civic dx! a 95 integra gsr has a 6.5 second 0-60 and a 15.2 second quarter youre gonna need more than Originally posted by BladesM3 a few modifications to beat a Originally posted by BladesM3 semi-fixed up gsr TRD 04-16-2002, 04:15 AM Originally posted by luisangel166 ......piece of crap subaru and the piece of crap camaro . you tell me!:D ldelaysionl what do you have in your SUBARU anyways??? your stock right? :o Neutrino 04-16-2002, 04:22 AM Ok what the heck is this a newbie fest or someone keeps re-registering with af? TRD 04-16-2002, 04:23 AM ImportScene those are pretty hooked-up corollas...nice ;) TRD 04-16-2002, 04:24 AM Originally posted by Neutrino Ok what the heck is this a newbie fest or someone keeps re-registering with af? something wrong with a newbie ??? LjasonL 04-16-2002, 04:28 AM well its official, this thread has been raised from the dead. im sorry neutrino, i think ive attracted the international corolla defense committee :p Neutrino 04-16-2002, 04:39 AM I see corollas... All the time. And they don't even know they are slow. Neutrino 04-16-2002, 04:41 AM Originally posted by ldelaysionl im sorry neutrino, i think ive attracted the international corolla defense committee :p Corolla boys are here!!! Everybody RUN...... AAAAAH(screaming like a girl) :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: LjasonL 04-16-2002, 04:49 AM Originally posted by TRD you tell me!:D ldelaysionl what do you have in your SUBARU anyways??? your stock right? :o is your point that, in stock form, my base model impreza is easily more than a second faster on a drag strip than a top of the line corolla? and infinately faster on a road course? i dont understand what youre getting at here... :confused: anyways no im not stock, performance wise, ive only got about $200-$300 in her, but ive got some stuff in there. enough to win me a "1st place centerville dragway street import class" trophy and a "1st place modified car golds gym annual car show" plaque, so yeah... :o yawn away. jhbhatia 04-16-2002, 11:15 AM I can easily tell you all that the corolla’s are sweet. BladesM3 is the mod at www.cthreeracing.com and he has his corolla turbo’ed and he ran a ¼ mile at approx 12 seconds! Not many people pay that much attention to modding a rolla, but please don’t get confused with the fact that it can’t be modded. I have a full line up of cars at my driveway…..Celica All Trac (GT Four), Lexus ES300, Camry V6 XLE, and a Toyota Solara. I was once a very proud owner of a Toyota Corolla. Corolla may not be the best car out there, but it’s a whole lot more to offer than its competitors, No wonder it is the “NUMBER ONE SELLING CAR IN THE WORLD FOR LIKE 13 YEARS IN A ROW” H8aHONDA 04-16-2002, 12:39 PM :flipa: TALK ALL THE SHIT U WANT BOUT COROLLAS, LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR CARS THEY "MIGHT" BE FAST BUT THEY LOOK LIKE SHIT WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT FUNKY ASS LOOKING WAGON SHIT???? AND IDELAYSIONL YOUR SUBRU AINT ALL THAT!!! AND A WHOLE SECOND YOUR TALKING ABOUT SHIT, THE DRIVER CAN MAKE UP SECONDS NOT THE CAR AND YEAH YOU HAVE UPSET SOME OF US WITH THIS BULL-SHIT FORUM...AND YEAH IT IS THE COROLLA ALIENCE WERE "C-THREE RACING " BEYOTCH LjasonL 04-16-2002, 02:52 PM Originally posted by H8aHONDA :flipa: TALK ALL THE SHIT U WANT BOUT COROLLAS, LOOK AT SOME OF YOUR CARS THEY "MIGHT" BE FAST BUT THEY LOOK LIKE SHIT WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT FUNKY ASS LOOKING WAGON SHIT???? AND IDELAYSIONL YOUR SUBRU AINT ALL THAT!!! AND A WHOLE SECOND YOUR TALKING ABOUT SHIT, THE DRIVER CAN MAKE UP SECONDS NOT THE CAR AND YEAH YOU HAVE UPSET SOME OF US WITH THIS BULL-SHIT FORUM...AND YEAH IT IS THE COROLLA ALIENCE WERE "C-THREE RACING " BEYOTCH i never said my subaru was all that, what i said is that the BASE MODEL impreza is over 1 second faster through the 1/4 mile and tons faster through a road course than the TOP OF THE LINE corolla. and those are facts. give me some facts to support why corollas are good. i still havent heard any. not a single one of u corolla people have given me a reason WHY the corolla is so good. the reason its the number one selling car in the world is its a good commuter and economy car, but thats where it ends, in commuter and economy. theyre NOT drag cars, obviously with the 16 and 17 second stock 1/4s. theyre NOT road race cars, with the crap ass suspension and 130hp. theyre NOT rally cars, once again with the crappy suspension. when is the last time u saw a corolla raced competitively in ANY type of race series? like i said, give me ONE reason the corolla is such an awesome car. the only thing any of u can come up with is economy, because thats the ONLY thing the corolla is good at. and if the cars posted above are what u people call looking good, im glad u dont think my car looks good. the corollas posted above would be right at home in the highschool parking lot with a lot of dumb kids standing around talking about the fast and the furious, but i bet you 99% of the drivers on the road think they look rediculous. fastrThanU 04-16-2002, 03:56 PM the corrolla, according to you, is the best selling car for 13yrs because it has more to offer than its competitors......... let me finish that thought...... it's becasuse they are a family economy car. this is a street race forum, and a corrolla is by no means a performance car. you wanna post about corrollas? go to a family car forum. don't hate on ldelaysionl's subaru... it's a nice ride- a lot more to offer than a corrolla CAptynCrunch 04-16-2002, 04:40 PM Ok, this has gotten out of hand, again! Now, I was the first one to come to the corolla's defense, but I was referring to the older model that hasn't been produced in over a decade. The current models of corolla(from the early 90's on) are just plain crap from a performance point of view. As Idelaysion just said, sure the corolla is a great commuter, and it has longevity. Properly cared for one will last a decade easily. however, they are in no way a performance car. A lot better then most cars here? Ok, lets look at the corolla from a performance point of view. Oh yes, and Blades, i do know about the new corolla, so don't tell me i don't. You say it has the same engine as the new celicas and MRS's? Big no it doesn't. It has the same BLOCK, not the same engine. If it had the same engine they would both produce the same ammount of power. Celica, lets see, it runs 11.5:1 compression and produces 180HP. This is with the help of much higher grade engine components then those used in the corolla, and, most inportantly, a special cam system. So no, your car does not have the same engine as a celica. MR2 Spyder, hell, who gives a damn if you've got the same engine as this thing, it's jsut as pussy as a corolla engine. The thing only produces 138HP. Thats a pathetic disgrace compared to what the older MR2's used to make. Sure the MRS is a better handling car then teh old MR2's, but it's got no power, and your car shares nothing in common with an MRS as far as handling is concerned. Finally, the corolla it's self. The type S and every other model have 130HP, and at 2500lbs. thats not fast at all. Hell, like Idelaysion already pointed, it's only 0.1 seconds faster then a BASE model civic through the 1/4. And as we all know, the civic is a pathetic piece of crap that is not meant for performance use, so something that is only a tenth of a second faster then the BASE model of a civic is not meant for performance use either. Oh yeah, and would you care to explain this magical 130HP corolla that "with a few modifications" could beat a GSR with it's 180HP and far, far, superior handling?(and don't give me any crap about a corolla being able to out handle a GSR, cause it can't). Oh, and TRD, yes Idelaysion's Impreza is pretty much totally stock performance wise, It's a wagon(an extra 80lbs.) it has a fairly large stereo, and a playstation(or is it a PS2?). All of these things would in fact slow him down(no offense bro, just the matter of the extra weight). And you know what? His stock, Naturally aspirated, Not even top of the line Imprezza would still kick the piss out of ANY stock corolla on teh road, or for that matter, any corolla with any besides either an engine swap or some form of forced induction. And he could do it in either the 1/4 or in a street course. Finally, for H8aHonda, a suggestion. Don't type in all capitals, it doesn't make you look cool, loud, forceful, or anything good. It jsut makes you look like a dumbass who can't work a keyboard. Oh yeah, and there's no "Might" aout toehr cars being fast when they are being compared to a corolla. You say that It's not the speed of the car but the looks? thats just fucking retarded. You want to talk about looks goto an art museum, cars are about speed. And even if you do prefer cars for they're looks then their performance, you can't argue whether your car looks better then someone elses because thats based on opinion, not fact. But just for the record, makeing a car look nice is not about renting fast and the furious with your friends then seeing who can fit the biggest strut wing on tehy're piece of crap FWD car before it creates to much down force and just lifts they're front wheels off teh ground. Oh yeah, and no car should have those stupid ass stickers and graphics on them. It doesn't look cool, it just looks tacky. And since when the hell does a corolla look good? the new ones are too damn chunky to look good, they look like something halfway between a camry and an echo. Oh yeah, and the driver can make up seconds in a 1/4? Bullshit, the only way that applies is if your a godly launcher/shifter and the person your racing can't drive. And in real competition the other person is going to be just as good as you, maybe not quite as good, but also possibly a bit better. So yes the car matters in teh 1/4. In fact it's pretty much all that does matter. And bullshit forum? I somehow doubt this "C3Racing" has that great, or popular of a forum(s) as AF does. Oh yeah, and finally, Blades, i'd like to see some specs for your car. because unless your blowing at least like 15psi of boost, theres no way your car can run 12's. LjasonL 04-16-2002, 05:42 PM wow captyncrunch, those are exactly the points that i was trying to get them to realize, but i didnt wanna type such a long post. nicely said! :jump: "c-three", consider yourself: http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/733803owneddomo2.jpg i just found that pic, and this seemed a fitting opportunity to use it :cwn27: :hehe: :hehehe: :silly2: CAptynCrunch 04-16-2002, 05:51 PM Thanks Idelaysion, Yeah, it didn't take to long to type, the third time. My damn computer locked up TWICE! while i was trying to post that message. Damn computer isn't getting the better of me:D And by the way, what the HELL is that thing in the picture? Cause i keep seeing that guy/thing/whatever everywhere on the forums. LjasonL 04-16-2002, 06:10 PM haha, thats "domo" i just found a few pics of him and hes cool! oh btw after a little investigating i found the thread about us on "c-three", the funny thing is they even admit on there that the 2001 corollas have weak handling but still they come in here and defend its handling to us. and somebody said something about "of course his wrx will beat a stock corolla" i guess they dont realize i dont drive a wrx... they also talk about my "photochopped" speedometer, guess they think that cuz a corolla will barely hit 100mph (the 2001 i drove would only get 100 downhill) that no other car can get to 125 and still be stable and smooth enough to allow me to take a picture... http://www.cthreeracing.com/vbull/showthread.php?threadid=8156 C3 Rollin 04-16-2002, 06:30 PM Originally posted by ldelaysionl wow captyncrunch, those are exactly the points that i was trying to get them to realize, but i didnt wanna type such a long post. nicely said! :jump: "c-three", consider yourself: http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/733803owneddomo2.jpg i just found that pic, and this seemed a fitting opportunity to use it :cwn27: :hehe: :hehehe: :silly2: Hey dude dont get mad that you spent alot more money for a car....With the money I save from buying a corolla I can spend to smoke your Suburu...:devil: :smoker2: :devil: :smoker2: 93speed 04-16-2002, 06:35 PM Originally posted by ldelaysionl http://www.cthreeracing.com/vbull/showthread.php?threadid=8156 I see H8Honda or whoever he was still can't work his keyboard :bloated: LjasonL 04-16-2002, 06:48 PM Originally posted by C3 Rollin Hey dude dont get mad that you spent alot more money for a car....With the money I save from buying a corolla I can spend to smoke your Suburu...:devil: :smoker2: :devil: :smoker2: okay this is directly from the toyota website in the "build a toyota" section. 2003 corolla LE 5 speed manual. $15,205 anti lock brakes (standard on impreza) $300 driver and passenger airbags (standard on impreza) $250 extra mile pkg a (which includes carpeted floor mats and 3 yr/36000 mile warranty, standard on impreza) $487 security system upgrade (not standard on impreza, but on my impreza) $389 15 inch wheels (standard on impreza) $390 am/fm/cd combo with 6 speakers (not standard on impreza, but on mine) $40 total price: $17061, not including destination charges. total price of my impreza: $17845, not including destination charges there is about a $700 difference when u price comparably equipped models. u cant just say the corolla is such a better value cuz there is a "stripped" model corolla and not a stripped impreza, if u wanna compare them give the corolla the same equipment the impreza has. also things i have that ARENT options on the corolla: full time awd 165hp and 167lb/ft torque viscous coupling limited slip differential sounds like a hell of a value for the extra $700. NOW tell me whos getting the better deal? Polygon 04-16-2002, 07:27 PM Originally posted by C3 Rollin Hey dude dont get mad that you spent alot more money for a car....With the money I save from buying a corolla I can spend to smoke your Suburu...:devil: :smoker2: :devil: :smoker2: Just give it up man. Look at it this way. My car cost me $3,000. It is in near perfect condition, gets about 40 MPG on the freeway at 75 MPH, it has almost 150,000 on the odometer with the original turbo that still puts out over 14 PSI of boost. So lets recap here. My car costs less. I get better gas mileage. Damn reliable. And I'll tear you a new asshole in a race without even trying. And I think it looks a hell of a lot better than a Corolla. So just give it up, it is a Corolla. It is slow, and besides everyone knows that Subaru is a better company and doesn't make extreemly ugly cars like Toyota. CAptynCrunch 04-16-2002, 07:42 PM $700 for Subaru AWD, and LSD? shit, I'd love to know where they get their work done :p And polygon, although i don't totally agree with you on Toyotas being ugly(although yes all they latest ones are) you are most definitly right about your car being better, faster, and much nicer looking. I gotta say, your s is by far the best looking LeBaron I've ever seen. I love the flip-ups on it, and i gotta compliment you on the rims, they're perfect for that car. Polygon 04-16-2002, 10:02 PM Thanks CAptynCrunch, I actually tried painting the stock alloys gold first, which did it for me for a while. Then I came upon these and thought they would look damn good. And you are the first person that has said they look good besides my dad. Everyone else says "why didn't you get chrome?' :rolleyes: Also that is what I meant by ugly Toyotas, all the new ones are just plain ugly. But the supra has always look GREAT! Nutly Nuts 04-16-2002, 10:11 PM http://www.munky.org/images/specialolym.jpg PLZ STOP ALL DA FIGHTIN!!?! :smoka: :bandit: :smoka: Yeah well in my defense, I represent the old, and like to thank CAptynCrunch for the props for the old. The early Rolla's are RWD and the GTS's have the same motors as the MR2. Besides the only Rolla that can compete against the Subaru is the WRC Rolla. Even Japan J-Spec Rolla are far superior to the modern Rollas North America sells. I know it ain't much but we do what we do to make it better than stock and some of us are even more dedicated and put the Rolla onto another level. Too bad the modern Rolla has lost some of its racing roots!!?! :( :( :( Polygon 04-16-2002, 10:19 PM Yeah, Nuts you have a great point there. I have to say that my comments were directed at only the new Rollas. The older ones could actually get up and go pretty good and they looked a lot better than the new ones. LjasonL 04-16-2002, 10:52 PM Originally posted by Nutly Nuts The early Rolla's are RWD and the GTS's have the same motors as the MR2. Besides the only Rolla that can compete against the Subaru is the WRC Rolla. all the cars u metioned here (older rwd corollas, mr2, wrc corolla) are very cool cars. however none of them have anything important in common with the type of corolla i was referring to when i made the origional post, and that is the modern usdm corolla. Nutly Nuts 04-16-2002, 11:19 PM Originally posted by ldelaysionl however none of them have anything important in common with the type of corolla i was referring to when i made the origional post, and that is the modern usdm corolla. Sorry dawg, didn't mean to come off that way, I've always been a fan of the old personally!!?! I heard you were playin Tokyo Extreme Racin when they took the 120mph shot and you have pics, I'd like to see those!!?! :D :cool: :D Post the pic here and/or on C3, LATER!!?! :smoka: :bandit: :smoka: LjasonL 04-17-2002, 12:40 AM alright u asked for it so heres the whole series of my "fast" pictures. it all started when i was just gonna take a pic of my screen somebody wanted to see, and i took it at 40mph, and i was looking at it and thought "wow, that would be a cool picture if i was doing like 120" and yes, i actually took these myself while i was driving. this 1st pic is the one i cut and zoomed in to make the pic in my signature. thats why the one in my sig looks finda messed up and fake. http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/5218721.JPG http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/8935092.JPG http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/9271743.JPG http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/1012854.JPG http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/8389795.JPG http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/1603606.JPG these last 2 are my friend driving not me, i took these pictures too. this time its daylight so u can see the rushing scenery better! http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/1640817.JPG note the sign: "speed limit 40", weve just reached about 115. http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/1882278.JPG Nutly Nuts 04-17-2002, 02:15 AM SICK!!?! :eek: :eek: :devil: :eek: :eek: That's pretty cool man!!?! :smoka: :bandit: :smoka: chebbiesux 04-17-2002, 02:55 AM hahahah, i just read the post on their board hahah, they all know about as much about cars as my guppy. 'cars are meant stock not to max out d3wd' yeah meign, 'rollas be da shiznit ! hahaha i f'in hate those little sh*tboxes hahaha Nutly Nuts 04-17-2002, 10:42 AM What do you have??!? :confused: :confused: :confused: Polygon 04-17-2002, 01:02 PM Originally posted by Nutly Nuts What do you have??!? :confused: :confused: :confused: Here is a link (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t39336.html) to see some pics of his cars. CivicEater 04-17-2002, 02:19 PM Here's my question.. and yes.. i own a corolla... QUESTION: WHY WOULD YOU BITCH ABOUT BODY ROLL IN A STOCK CAR? there is NO stock commuter car that doesn't have weak springs.. in fact, i'll venture that even a stock SUBARU would not reach my tastes for body roll.. Here's my car.. It's lowered.. that's the way we get rid of bodyroll.. Simple physics.. http://64.81.31.167/warollaz/members/CivicEater/Dsc00490.jpg http://64.81.31.167/warollaz/members/CivicEater/Dsc00491.jpg http://64.81.31.167/warollaz/members/CivicEater/Dsc00495.jpg now, tell me that ain't a decent car!!! more pix at: http://64.81.31.167/warollaz/ enjoy Joel CAptynCrunch 04-17-2002, 02:50 PM *I hate! fancy rims on cars with drum brakes* its ugly as hell. And you think no stock commuter car has little body roll? Your right, which is why i stated that a corolla is NOT a PERFORMANCE car. it's an economy based commuter, its not meant to be raced, which shows when it is, through the fact taht it's slow as hell. And do you really think a stock subaru has any where near the ammount of body roll a corolla does? Ok, thats it, I'm calling it quits(hehe, like I've never said that before). I give up. I mean i looked around their site and they were talking about 1/4 times. They were all rpoud of 16.4 and were talking about what a challenge and accomplishment it would be to get 15s N/A. Then someone said that new chips, engine bores, and new cams would increase power. And then i saw something that just ended it for me. They said that an ECHO was fast:eek: And somewhere they were talking baout asking the guys at their local toyota if TRD is planning on making a supercharger for the corolla and how annoying it was when the guy laughed in their face. They we saying how they think TRD is going to develope a SC for the corolla and the echo because they're making one for the celica and they "have the same engine". CivicEater 04-17-2002, 02:57 PM I never said that a subaru has the same bodyroll. what i said was.. if i had a subaru, i'd want to decrease the bodyroll.. and you call those rims fancy? WTF?? If you were an enthusiast, you'd realize those are only 15" rims, off an MR2 Spyder.. they're not fancy.. they're functional.. damn.. LjasonL 04-17-2002, 03:49 PM Originally posted by CivicEater Here's my question.. and yes.. i own a corolla... QUESTION: WHY WOULD YOU BITCH ABOUT BODY ROLL IN A STOCK CAR? i wasnt really bitching so much about just the body roll, but the entire suspension just sucked. i mean it was literally one of the worst handling cars ive ever driven. but yes, your car does look nice. very clean. keep it that way. i would lower mine but then i wouldnt be able to do any off roading. LjasonL 04-17-2002, 04:35 PM and just lowering your car doesnt get rid of body roll, u need a stiffer spring rate, it doesnt even have to be lowered just stiffer. but then the cars all bouncy unless u get better shocks to go with it. Nutly Nuts 04-17-2002, 08:54 PM Originally posted by Polygon Here is a link (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t39336.html) to see some pics of his cars. :eek2: DAAAAMMMN!!?! :eek2: SWEEEET, those look ruff!!?! :smoka: :bandit: :smoka: GTS-4 Ben 04-17-2002, 08:58 PM Ill get some pics of one of our cars, with a 200MPH speedo, getting close to the end ;) Neutrino 04-18-2002, 01:21 AM Originally posted by ldelaysionl this 1st pic is the one i cut and zoomed in to make the pic in my signature. thats why the one in my sig looks finda messed up and fake. http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/5218721.JPG http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/8935092.JPG [/IMG] Ok please keep the hands on the whells when doing over 130 because that is just freaky. CAptynCrunch 04-18-2002, 05:15 AM neh, you only need one hand to keep the wheel straight, and one hand to work the camera. I'll bet a bag of doritos his left hand was on the bottom part of the wheel :) Bishamon 04-18-2002, 03:03 PM Actually, at least in Canada, the base model Altima is a better buy than the base Impreza. :D Mind you, I'd still rather have the AWD Impreza. ;) I like my Corolla because a) it's one of the most reliable cars ever made, b) it was inexpensive, c) it's faster than the base model Focus, Civic, Accent and Rio, c) it's more reliable than the Civic, Focus, Neon, Accent, Rio, Cavalier, Sunfire, etc., and d) I think it looks good. :) In Canada, the base model Impreza 2.5TS costs $21,995 vs. $15,290 for the base Corolla; that's a significant difference. Sure, I would have loved to get the Subaru, but after having purchased a condo less than 3 months before, I frankly couldn't afford it. You can't compare the 1ZZ-FE VVT-i based Corollas with cars that easily outclass them, but they will outperform the other cars in their class, including the 127HP VTEC equipped 2002 Civics. LjasonL 04-18-2002, 03:37 PM Originally posted by CAptynCrunch neh, you only need one hand to keep the wheel straight, and one hand to work the camera. I'll bet a bag of doritos his left hand was on the bottom part of the wheel :) you sir, just won a bag of doritos :p LjasonL 04-18-2002, 03:41 PM Originally posted by Bishamon Actually, at least in Canada, the base model Altima is a better buy than the base Impreza. :D Mind you, I'd still rather have the AWD Impreza. ;) I like my Corolla because a) it's one of the most reliable cars ever made, b) it was inexpensive, c) it's faster than the base model Focus, Civic, Accent and Rio, c) it's more reliable than the Civic, Focus, Neon, Accent, Rio, Cavalier, Sunfire, etc., and d) I think it looks good. :) In Canada, the base model Impreza 2.5TS costs $21,995 vs. $15,290 for the base Corolla; that's a significant difference. Sure, I would have loved to get the Subaru, but after having purchased a condo less than 3 months before, I frankly couldn't afford it. You can't compare the 1ZZ-FE VVT-i based Corollas with cars that easily outclass them, but they will outperform the other cars in their class, including the 127HP VTEC equipped 2002 Civics. ouch, that price sucks! :eek: and it looks like here we have another one of the corolla people who talk like they have a brain instead of just saying "f*ck you rollas rule" welcome to af! Bishamon 04-18-2002, 04:21 PM Originally posted by ldelaysionl and it looks like here we have another one of the corolla people who talk like they have a brain instead of just saying "f*ck you rollas rule" welcome to af! Thank you! Glad to be here! :) LjasonL 04-18-2002, 04:22 PM found this yesterday at the mall http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/6854652.JPG :hehe: :hehehe: Bishamon 04-18-2002, 04:42 PM Here's one I took at a mall a couple of weeks ago: http://www.toddbundy.com/NismoCamry.jpg It's a NISMO Camry! :D Tom_S8 04-19-2002, 12:16 PM Originally posted by Bishamon It's a NISMO Camry! :D Don't tell me you haven't heard of NISMO camrys? Damn , i drive a nismo civic , and my friend has mugen echo... :bloated: .... LjasonL 04-19-2002, 06:03 PM Originally posted by Tom_S8 Don't tell me you haven't heard of NISMO camrys? Damn , i drive a nismo civic , and my friend has mugen echo... :bloated: .... ahh if only i had taken a picture of the stock dodge neon with a mugen emblem on the back. or the accord that was lowered on some bling bling wheels, had a "yamaha racing" windshield banner and an intake and exhaust and a trailer hitch pulling a small rusty boat Bishamon 04-22-2002, 08:31 AM Originally posted by ldelaysionl ahh if only i had taken a picture of the stock dodge neon with a mugen emblem on the back. or the accord that was lowered on some bling bling wheels, had a "yamaha racing" windshield banner and an intake and exhaust and a trailer hitch pulling a small rusty boat Those would have been classic! DemonZX 04-22-2002, 02:26 PM The other day I saw a Ford ZX2 with Honda SiR stickers and a TRD sticker on the back window. Bishamon 04-22-2002, 02:53 PM I was just at a car show on Saturday and there was a Focus ZX3 there all done up with body-kit, etc., and it had a 'Type-R' badge under the 'ZX3' logo. A ZX3 Type-R? OOOOHHHHKAYY. ;) Neutrino 04-22-2002, 05:58 PM Originally posted by Bishamon I was just at a car show on Saturday and there was a Focus ZX3 there all done up with body-kit, etc., and it had a 'Type-R' badge under the 'ZX3' logo. A ZX3 Type-R? OOOOHHHHKAYY. ;) i would not mess with those they are fassst.:D liquid8 06-09-2002, 07:37 PM Okay this is S2Corolla, not liquid8, I'm posting on my friends computer because I'm at his place. First of all... Idelaysionl, I used to have respect for you and your car because in terms of AWD, you were going against the flow of traffic considering everyone thinks you need turbo and WRX on your back bumper to go fast in a Subaru. For the record, your car is nice, it's a good handling car and I will not say my Corolla is better. Now to my $ .02. First of all, in my Corolla in stock form, I never lost to a SOHC Vtec, EVER... I dominate non-vtec SOHC Civic's, and in stock form, yes, I did get my a$$ handed to me by DOHC Vtec GSR's, but I gave moderate comp to B16A Civic Si's (99-00). After I got my cylinder head ported and polished and custom made an intake, I massacred modified, stock and hybrid SOHC Vtec's, and it was a drivers race between me and a slightly modified Civic Si or a stock GSR. Body roll can be compensated for by getting stiffer lowering springs and handling can be supplimented by upgrading the struts. I'll be honest, Duwayne, (BladesM3) made a big mistake with that post and the other guy made a mistake because those pictures he showed are of show cars. Oh and that silver 2001 Corolla on top with the aluminum wing, body kit and side decals ran 15.3 with just intake and full exhaust with no cat. No BS, he showed his timeslips. I wish I could run 15.3 but my driving skills aren't the greatest to say the least. And idelasionl, posting that Corolla with the japanese decal is a little short-handed because there are more Civic's out there with Type R stickers and winshield washer nozzle lights than Corolla's. What I am trying to do, or I WAS trying to do was go against the flow of traffic in a good way, and take a fuel economical, safe car and turn it into a moderately performing car on the track and road course without the use of heavy modification or forced induction. This is not because I THINK the Corolla is a fast performing car or because I hate Honda. I love Honda/Acura, Subaru and Toyota all equally the same. It's because when I had to buy a new car because my Mustang 5.0 was on it's last legs, I didn't have the benefit of buying a used car or going to a bigger city to get a used Honda. I would've wanted a GSR or a loan to get a 92-95 Civic coupe for a project car, but Toyota was the nearest dealership and having poor credit only allowed me so much. My friend bought a 2001 2 door EX coupe 5 speed, and to say the least, I came out with a better deal. He bought an AEM cold air intake, DC sports 4-2-1 header, and custom cat-back exhaust with a 2" drop, and in stock form I still beat him by a car length, and he IS a good driver. Yes, in stock form the Corolla does have crappy body-roll and handling, but it's no excuse to flame the Corolla as a beneficial project car at all. A car is a car, and with the right modification any car can perform like a hero on the track or course. So please watch the way you say things. LjasonL 06-09-2002, 10:42 PM okay, well man, i didnt post that pic to say that corollas are all riced out or anything, i just happened to see it and this corolla thread was going on at the same time, so it just seemed to fit. yeah there are a lot more hondas like that, but i didnt see them that weekend. i do have respect for a fast corolla, thats cool, taking an economy car and wasting sports cars. but in my original post in this thread, i was referring to a stock 2001 corolla. if it makes u feel better, here are my rice sightings from this weekend. no corollas, i havent seen any rice corollas since that pic 2 months ago. 1st, the accord who cut his springs REALLY far, and had "accord type r" stickers on the side http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/161676accordlow.JPG then, the escort that had cut springs, and random body parts painted white, presumably to make people think he bought a body kit. the 3 different sets of foglights arent visible in this pic http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/770734escort.JPG finally, the best. it doesnt look TOO ricey, till the guy claimed he had 235hp. how, we asked, did u get that much power. his reply: "a header and a racing fuel line". we looked under the hood, no header, and im not exactly sure what a "racing fuel line" is or how it makes power... http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/258678accord.JPG wait till i finally get pics of the elusive "rice mustang". i dont think there is a person here that wont laugh at it. big terminator 2 spoiler, racing stripes, and a "gt-r" badge from a nissan skyline, just to name a few of the things on it. its pretty bad when u drive a mustang gt and import drivers call u ricey! S2Corolla 06-10-2002, 04:38 AM Dude, I've seen the King of the Rice Lords... This guy had a bonestock 240SX 1992 model with the 2.4l engine, 5 speed, with cut springs. He had a Batman sticker on his front winshield and a sticker that said "BATMAN" on the back of his car above his taillights. He had a stocker that said "Powered by NISMO" on the side of his car, yellow winshield washer blades and Batman seat covers, and his license plate frame said "Bruce Wayne" even though his real name is Manuel. But wait there's more. I pulled next to the guy to talk to him, and it just so happened he knew who my friend was. My friend Santos, who drives a 2001 Integra GSR with Ground Control Coilovers, Koni adjustable shocks(struts?), AEM Cold Air, DC Sports JDM Integra Type R header, Tanabe exhaust, AEM Cam Gears, spark plugs and wires... Well this guy claimed he beat my friend Santos, on the FREEWAY... Now for one thing... Santos wasted me a couple of weeks ago by about 2 1/2 car lengths. He pulls on the freeway on me, pretty badly, and he knows how to drive pretty good. You could hear his second gear chirp from four blocks down. I raced this 240sx light to light and I smoked him by like 2 1/2 car lengths, without peeling out from the start. alive2spd 06-20-2002, 03:31 AM I am a proud owner of a 1989 Toyota SR5, and just wanted to also defend older Toyota's. My car handles exceptionaly well stock. After I ran my tires to the point where they were going to fall off I decided to spend 40$ a tire and replace the older ones. Honestly it made such a big difference, I can't believe it. Anyway back to the point, the SR5 and GT-S (which are almost the same) are great cars. I am sorry that many people disagree that Toyotas can't be good cars. By the way, since I have owned my car the only thing that needed to be done so far is putting gas in it. (and the tires) TerminalVelocity 06-20-2002, 07:47 AM I'd take on a Corolla, if its done right it could beat me. Not that its fair, to say I beat it dosent win me respect, to say I lost to it kills me :bandit: krisp911 08-04-2005, 04:43 AM lets face it. you're just mad cause 1. a Corolla beat your WRX in WRC. 2. the fastest Corolla is faster than the fastest Impreza. 3. there are more 8-9 sec Corollas than Imprezas 4. they are easier to fix, and they usually dont need fixing, much like your ride 5. not only are they good in economy, they are also much cheaper. 6. the XRS Corolla which is cheaper than the 2.5RS is faster 7. Toyota quality beats up on Subraru any day of the week 8. I could fix up a faster ride from junkyard Toyota parts than your Impreza. 9. Id be mad too if I bought a WRX, and fixed it up, then an overrated fixed up compact family ride 300hp STI came out. 10. youre just lucky Toyota doesn't bring their Caldena which is faster than a WRX bladesM3 does not represent the majority of Corolla owners, just like there are ricey ass people driving ricey ass every model cars. CivRacer95 08-04-2005, 05:28 AM lets face it. you're just mad cause 1. a Corolla beat your WRX in WRC. 2. the fastest Corolla is faster than the fastest Impreza. 3. there are more 8-9 sec Corollas than Imprezas 4. they are easier to fix, and they usually dont need fixing, much like your ride 5. not only are they good in economy, they are also much cheaper. 6. the XRS Corolla which is cheaper than the 2.5RS is faster 7. Toyota quality beats up on Subraru any day of the week 8. I could fix up a faster ride from junkyard Toyota parts than your Impreza. 9. Id be mad too if I bought a WRX, and fixed it up, then an overrated fixed up compact family ride 300hp STI came out. 10. youre just lucky Toyota doesn't bring their Caldena which is faster than a WRX bladesM3 does not represent the majority of Corolla owners, just like there are ricey ass people driving ricey ass every model cars. Congratulations, you just dug up this 3 year old thread to tell off some guy who more than likely doesn't care anymore about this. BullDog71ss 08-04-2005, 11:03 AM Trolling is getting serious around here. Break out the bow and arrows civ...it's troll huntin' time! CamaroSSBoy346 08-04-2005, 11:28 AM Holy Old Thread Batman! TheStang00 08-04-2005, 12:51 PM vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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