i think that any prelude would be the quintisencal chic car, they look good but have no balls. ive yet to see a fast one. if you have please share.

the ultimate chick car is the prowler. looking at that thing you would think it has a v-8, but then come to find out it only has a v-6. the ultimate cheap chick car is the celica.

ive seen some pretty fast celicas and some are even 4wd so i think that it at least has possabiltys

Preludes are not chick cars, the H22 has a decent amount of Torque and there are some fast ones mucking about.

The del Sol however.....

eh highest horses for ludes is 220 with 163 torqe and thats only in the jdm h22a and for the price it would cost to ether have a a us lude converted eo that or for a newish lude with 200hp you could buy a 300zx tt or a car comparable, dont get me wroung i love how preludes look i just think they need to be rwd and at least have a bigger motor.

My vote is for the VW Cabriolet

yep. Ceclica, Miata, VDub Cabriolet, Mustang, Del Slow, Neons...

hehehe...mustang :p

2nd gen Eclipse (and 3rd for that matter) problem is they suck without mods.

the prelude is nowhere near a chick car, the worse chick car is the newest celica, and any white honda civic, preludes have hondas fastest 4 banger engine, and they can burn lots of other 4 bangers on the street, i think of it as a much more classy car also

yep. Ceclica, Miata, VDub Cabriolet, Mustang, Del Slow, Neons...

that is a pretty good list. but you will probably get flamed by a few of af's members with the mustang one.

p.s. love your avatar.

A4 Cabrio, S4 Cabrio

never seen a fast prelude? hmmm

and you actually think they look good and dont drive one? even weirder

My vote is for the VW Cabriolet
:1: Tuna basket.

haha... mustang... so true

Haven't seen a fast Prelude? Well, neither have I.
But still, my vote for the chic car would go either to Audi TT or Mazda Miata!

i kinda disagree with the Celica and Prelude thing, but that's just me.

now if you want a chick car look no further than the miata

vw bug... THAT is a chick car

vw bug... THAT is a chick car
Agreed, especially the new Cabriolet

NO Way. CELICAS (for sure i dont care what ppl say) VW bugs, alotta cavaliers, some tiburons, and miatas. Preludes r nice though cant compare them with civics theyre not on the same level.

Infiniti G35, 350Z, put some rims and a nice exhaust in one of these and you can guarantee yourself some chicks within a couple of minutes. :smokin:

I love how all the Camaro owners rip on Mustangs...

someone's gotta do it.

Ultimate Chick car: The Volkswagen Bug (New Beatle)

camaro sucks id take a mustang over a maro any day. audis are deffinately not chick cars bro. specially not the rs4. now for pickin up chicks hell ya. haha mustang a chick car HAHAHA! your only sayin that cuz you cant handle one.

haha mustang a chick car HAHAHA! your only sayin that cuz you cant handle one.

actually, if you define "chick car" as whether or not more men or women drive the car, id say its a chick car, because i see and know a helluva lot more girls that drive one than guys.

and yes, ive seen a fast prelude. quite fast actually, ran 7's in the 8th mile. (to answer mitsu-evo). ill also remind you that NA h22a's (the 5th gen prelude engine) can run tens in the quarter. its not a mild engine, it just takes a bit of work.

h22a is also stricly jdm so you have to pay money to have a swap, i mean i could make a fucking metro fly with the amount of money you have to spent to make a prelude fast, it just dosent seem worth it. but yeah the last preludes were the best, coinidence?

actually, if you define "chick car" as whether or not more men or women drive the car, id say its a chick car, because i see and know a helluva lot more girls that drive one than guys.

and yes, ive seen a fast prelude. quite fast actually, ran 7's in the 8th mile. (to answer mitsu-evo). ill also remind you that NA h22a's (the 5th gen prelude engine) can run tens in the quarter. its not a mild engine, it just takes a bit of work.


the gurls tend to drive the v6 guys the v8. and i define a chick car as awwww its sooo cute. it doesnt matter if more gurls than guys drive it . the same goes for camaros

beetle and civic

yeah, true white civics seem to be a prefered chick car.

The Miata has to be THE chick car, but I also see only women drive the Z3 Roadster. Even James Bond wanna-be's wouldn't be seen tooling around in that thing.

The Del Sol, well pretty much any Civic is a chick car. Slow, and has a hatchback for all of her shopping bags.

Sunfire is a girlie car, too. No guts, but a cutsie shape.

h22a is also stricly jdm so you have to pay money to have a swap, i mean i could make a fucking metro fly with the amount of money you have to spent to make a prelude fast, it just dosent seem worth it. but yeah the last preludes were the best, coinidence?

first, the h22a is not strictly JDM. they came to america in the fifth gen prelude.

second, you would have to spend an ASSLOAD of cash to get a metro even runnin close to a prelude, in speed and handling.

whats with the prelude hatred? get beat by one or something?

and challenger nailed it...pontiac sunfire/chevy cavalier

ultimate chick cars

Preludes are not chick cars, the H22 has a decent amount of Torque and there are some fast ones mucking about.

The del Sol however.....
well you think that your bmw is fast but i think i have the same stuff if not more stuff down to my car and i payed half the price besides i have seen more chicks in bmw's than any other car out there

what is with the new dodge magnum's its a durango with a shop top

The Miata has to be THE chick car, but I also see only women drive the Z3 Roadster. Even James Bond wanna-be's wouldn't be seen tooling around in that thing.

The Del Sol, well pretty much any Civic is a chick car. Slow, and has a hatchback for all of her shopping bags.

Sunfire is a girlie car, too. No guts, but a cutsie shape.
i swear i see more imports like civics destroing v8's and besides i know for a fact that i have lost maybe only 5 races to rustanges and camaro's so far and i have a civic

camaro sucks id take a mustang over a maro any day. audis are deffinately not chick cars bro. specially not the rs4. now for pickin up chicks hell ya. haha mustang a chick car HAHAHA! your only sayin that cuz you cant handle one.

so how is it that camaro's have alway's dominated rustanges

I love how all the Camaro owners rip on Mustangs...



probably because thay suck.

why what does your car have in it that can compete

o have they really newbie i think you need to read up a little the next time you decide to press post. go away newb with your stupid remarks

i still think that the best car to have other than a civic is a eclipse preffered year 1990 to 94

Infiniti G35, 350Z, put some rims and a nice exhaust in one of these and you can guarantee yourself some chicks within a couple of minutes. :smokin:





it doesn't take a 350z to get girls you can a fast any kind of car and get the chics

stop post whoring. why dont you try this, put everything you want to say into one statement. this way we dont have to read 20 nonsense posts

how is a civic the best car to have? maybe the best for 2,500 or so but not the best car to have, and the only good eclipises are the 4wd turbo ones, why waist your time on any of the others.

o have they really newbie i think you need to read up a little the next time you decide to press post. go away newb with your stupid remarks

wow, you really told him huh?

sure

the jeep yj, wrangler and crap biggest girl car ever

barbie drives it...

gilmore girls drive it...

IMO, the official chick car = the Volkswagen Beetle/New Beetle.

IMO, the official chick car = the 1996 toyota camry

my vote goes for beetle as well. BTW ^^^best sig ever^^^

well you think that your bmw is fast but i think i have the same stuff if not more stuff down to my car and i payed half the price besides i have seen more chicks in bmw's than any other car out there
bwahahahahaha!!! Sorry, but you can't even string together a sentence, yet alone hold any credibility.

I payed good money (25,000 Euro's) for my BMW because it was a comfortable cruiser with unrivalled handling and a superb engineering. The del Sol on the other hand looks like a chicks car, is heavier than CRX's of the past and can't really hold a candle to a 330Ci. Sorry.

Stop disin on ludes, there the best Honda out there, discluding the S2000. Not fast! Then none of you have seen the TPR Drag Lude, 612 HP, 495 TQ, 8.7 1/4. TPR is a little known Engine builder that doesnt sell products to the public, but has made Ferrari eating CRX's and Ludes. Oh, and the ultimate girl cars, Old Beetles( I read that some of them came with like 25 HP stock), any Celica, I mean have any of you seen any race teams build those up, i also see a lot of gils drive those Bimmer Z3 Roadster a girl car, ur just mad that you will never even set foot in one.

sorry i messed up the last sentence, i meant to say that a lot of girls drive celicas and i was mad at who ever said Z3's were girl car. I rushed through that whole reply, I hate typing, and I was just so furios at all these stupid responses. This is a very stupid Lude hatin thread.

kinda confused here, are we talking about chic-magnet cars or chics that drive these certain popular cars?

I'll have to agree with sufficient proof that New Beetle, surprisingly, is a chic-magnet car. It's... something out of the ordinary.

accually i was talking about cars that look good but have no balls (they just happen to be drivin by chicks alot) and just so you know im not talking out my ass on the prelude vote, my friend has one and i have drivin it a few times, granted its not the 200 hp one but its the basic model and i feel that it is under powered, i was seeing if anybody agreed, disagreed, or had another car that they like the looks of but were dissapointed with power and preformance,and the quote "oviosly non of you have seen a ...blah,(fancy name that charges a hell of alot of money for ther motors),blah, bla.... lude, they are ferrari eating machines" well i know i said i have never seen a fast lude, and that is still true, also its not hard to beat a ferrari in the 1/4 mile, thats not what they are made for, lets see that same lude go around a road course, chances are it would suck major ass because of that much power, drag setup and front wheel drive. :slap:

i swear i see more imports like civics destroing v8's and besides i know for a fact that i have lost maybe only 5 races to rustanges and camaro's so far and i have a civic


Mustangs and Camaros don't really count. A typical FoxBox Mustang 5.0 is factory around 230HP, and can usually be upgraded to around 300HP, or so. Pthththth!

A Camaro isn't much better. I'm talkin about MY V8. 400+HP from the factory, mod'd to over 500 TRUE HP. Not what we in the Muscle Car genre refer to as "fictituous horsepower".

By the time you put on turbos and superchargers, and nitrous, and special intake filters, and injectors, and (for some gawd-only-knows reason) a 2-foot high aluminum wing on the back of a front wheel drive car, and your chrome rims, and neon glow tubes and countless stickers..sure you've got some pick up, I'll admit it...but it cost $40,000 to get there...and guys like me will STILL shut you down on the street.

bored over cylinders, ported heads, high comp. pistons, perf. cam, intake and carb.

that's close to 550HP and over 600 pounds of torque, in my 3,300Lbs muscle machine..good for low 11's on street tires and full exhaust.

10's if I open the headers and used better perf. tires.

To that end, the Civic isn't just a car, it's a trend. Like the Nike swoosh, or Tommy Hilfiger patches on jeans. It's cool, because people think other people think they're cool.

Tuners are a fad, like mural vans, or Low Riders, or car-trucks like the Ranchero and El Comino. Muscle is forever. 2 Million dollars for a '71 HemiCuda convertible...lemme know how much a 1996 Civic sells for in 30 yrs...or the last time you saw a mural van.

I'd like to think that Mustangs and Eclipses and such are just the second-choice for those who can't afford or find a real Muscle Car, but then again, a bought and fixed up 340 Dart will run 12's for little more than 10K, look better, sound cooler, and run with the big dawgz.

That's just my opinion, and you're entitled to it.

Mustangs and Camaros don't really count. A typical FoxBox Mustang 5.0 is factory around 230HP, and can usually be upgraded to around 300HP, or so. Pthththth!

A Camaro isn't much better. I'm talkin about MY V8. 400+HP from the factory, mod'd to over 500 TRUE HP. Not what we in the Muscle Car genre refer to as "fictituous horsepower".

By the time you put on turbos and superchargers, and nitrous, and special intake filters, and injectors, and (for some gawd-only-knows reason) a 2-foot high aluminum wing on the back of a front wheel drive car, and your chrome rims, and neon glow tubes and countless stickers..sure you've got some pick up, I'll admit it...but it cost $40,000 to get there...and guys like me will STILL shut you down on the street.

bored over cylinders, ported heads, high comp. pistons, perf. cam, intake and carb.

that's close to 550HP and over 600 pounds of torque, in my 3,300Lbs muscle machine..good for low 11's on street tires and full exhaust.

10's if I open the headers and used better perf. tires.

To that end, the Civic isn't just a car, it's a trend. Like the Nike swoosh, or Tommy Hilfiger patches on jeans. It's cool, because people think other people think they're cool.

Tuners are a fad, like mural vans, or Low Riders, or car-trucks like the Ranchero and El Comino. Muscle is forever. 2 Million dollars for a '71 HemiCuda convertible...lemme know how much a 1996 Civic sells for in 30 yrs...or the last time you saw a mural van.

I'd like to think that Mustangs and Eclipses and such are just the second-choice for those who can't afford or find a real Muscle Car, but then again, a bought and fixed up 340 Dart will run 12's for little more than 10K, look better, sound cooler, and run with the big dawgz.

That's just my opinion, and you're entitled to it.


hahaha looks like another typical 12 yr old:newbie: who gets all bent out of shape if someone has a different opinion than him. 2 million dollar hemicuda? shut up never talk again. nobody would ever pay that much for a cuda. haha thanks for making me laugh tho.

i think new celica and rsx.

at no point did I get, or appear bent out of shape. My post was quite well thought out and expressed, and I ended with the disclaimer that this was my OPINION. So fuck you very much.

As for the 2 mill. Cuda, you need to do your research, or at least stop talking until you have a clue...try EBay. In the Editor's Note in the latest Muscle Car Magazine, the editor mentions turning down 1 Mill for his purple Hemi convert, and that another owner declined 2 Mill. for his '71. Last year, a France export '71 HEMI went for one mill, and set the bar.

Next time you get sand in your vagina, and it's all itchy...take your ill-informed, uneducated, ignorant hissy fit elsewhere. I don't need some kid in a POS Chink-mobile calling me a 12 yr old...I can accept a difference of opinion...as long as it has an iota of discussion. You had nothing to add to this thread but another post to your count.


HAHA once again your acting like a 12 yr. old. maybe your 13 im sorry.give me proof of this 2 million dollar car, and ill stand corrected, but till then BS. show us articles . whys it gotta be a CHINK mobile? what you got against the asian race man? i think that white hood of yours is too tite its squeezin the heel outta your brain. grow up. its people like you who keep bringing back racial wars. so do us a favor and leave unless you can play nicely with others. once again man put up or shut up whith your 2 million dollar cuda.:greddy2:

Next time you get sand in your vagina, and it's all itchy...take your ill-informed, uneducated, ignorant hissy fit elsewhere. I don't need some kid in a POS Chink-mobile calling me a 12 yr old...I can accept a difference of opinion...as long as it has an iota of discussion. You had nothing to add to this thread but another post to your count.

:rofl: someone delete his vitriolic comments or :banhim:

:useless:

Mustangs and Camaros don't really count. A typical FoxBox Mustang 5.0 is factory around 230HP, and can usually be upgraded to around 300HP, or so. Pthththth!

A Camaro isn't much better. I'm talkin about MY V8. 400+HP from the factory, mod'd to over 500 TRUE HP. Not what we in the Muscle Car genre refer to as "fictituous horsepower".

By the time you put on turbos and superchargers, and nitrous, and special intake filters, and injectors, and (for some gawd-only-knows reason) a 2-foot high aluminum wing on the back of a front wheel drive car, and your chrome rims, and neon glow tubes and countless stickers..sure you've got some pick up, I'll admit it...but it cost $40,000 to get there...and guys like me will STILL shut you down on the street.

bored over cylinders, ported heads, high comp. pistons, perf. cam, intake and carb.

that's close to 550HP and over 600 pounds of torque, in my 3,300Lbs muscle machine..good for low 11's on street tires and full exhaust.

10's if I open the headers and used better perf. tires.

To that end, the Civic isn't just a car, it's a trend. Like the Nike swoosh, or Tommy Hilfiger patches on jeans. It's cool, because people think other people think they're cool.

Tuners are a fad, like mural vans, or Low Riders, or car-trucks like the Ranchero and El Comino. Muscle is forever. 2 Million dollars for a '71 HemiCuda convertible...lemme know how much a 1996 Civic sells for in 30 yrs...or the last time you saw a mural van.

I'd like to think that Mustangs and Eclipses and such are just the second-choice for those who can't afford or find a real Muscle Car, but then again, a bought and fixed up 340 Dart will run 12's for little more than 10K, look better, sound cooler, and run with the big dawgz.

That's just my opinion, and you're entitled to it.
Comparing a 'Cuda and a Civic is lame. Maybe compare it to a Supra or R34 Skyline in 30 years time and then we are going somwhere.

Comparing a 'Cuda and a Civic is lame. Maybe compare it to a Supra or R34 Skyline in 30 years time and then we are going somwhere.

yes thats what im saying. look at the older gen skylines and z's they are goin for mucho money

As well as cars like the Toyota 2000GT *droool*

chink car? u r canadian and u drive an american car, and u have the nerve to say racist comments? i am a white american who drives a chink car and i am deeply offended by ur comments. u have no right to say these things. shut-up and don't say anything else unless u become a descent human being and apologize. i am very surprised and disapointed u were not banned.

with that said- no, a prelude is definetely not a chick car. if u think u see more guys in beetles than guys in preludes, than u need ur eyes checked. the new beetle is by far the most driven by chicks. i can name 100 more cars...

probably, but that doesn't mean Beetle isn't a chic-magnet as well.

Alright...I came on this morning to amend my previous post, to make it far less offensive. I was out of line, and I admit that, and having some time to review my response, I realize that in defending myself against an unitiated attack, I was on the defensive, by being offensive.

As for 300ZIT or whatever, he doubted my claim on the Cuda, I reffered to a specific magazine, and it's specific article, and yet am told to "put up or shut up"...IT'S RIGHT THERE! Now, since he can't spell, I assume he can't read, either.


I'm a member of this forum, like any other, and considering the fact that I DO own a big block Challenger, would think that buddy there would take my OPINIONS with a grain of salt...or does he attack any post who's views differ from his?

I'm 12 because I have an OPINION?? Gimme a break. Although I come here every day, I rarely post unless I have something worthwhile to add to a thread, but I do enjoy reading other peoples views, comments and thoughts. On ALL kinds of cars, and subjects. Again I admit that I was out of line, but I do not feel that it was necessary for ZITT to react in his immature way.

To everybody who I offended, I will ammend the comment hence-forth..to ZIT, realize that the world is full of different people with different opinions, and preferences. As for "unless you can play nicely with others", need I remind you, that YOU came at ME first?

Alright...I came on this morning to amend my previous post, to make it far less offensive. I was out of line, and I admit that, and having some time to review my response, I realize that in defending myself against an unitiated attack, I was on the defensive, by being offensive.

As for 300ZIT or whatever, he doubted my claim on the Cuda, I reffered to a specific magazine, and it's specific article, and yet am told to "put up or shut up"...IT'S RIGHT THERE! Now, since he can't spell, I assume he can't read, either.


I'm a member of this forum, like any other, and considering the fact that I DO own a big block Challenger, would think that buddy there would take my OPINIONS with a grain of salt...or does he attack any post who's views differ from his?

I'm 12 because I have an OPINION?? Gimme a break. Although I come here every day, I rarely post unless I have something worthwhile to add to a thread, but I do enjoy reading other peoples views, comments and thoughts. On ALL kinds of cars, and subjects. Again I admit that I was out of line, but I do not feel that it was necessary for ZITT to react in his immature way.

To everybody who I offended, I will ammend the comment hence-forth..to ZIT, realize that the world is full of different people with different opinions, and preferences. As for "unless you can play nicely with others", need I remind you, that YOU came at ME first?

ZIT? haha im sorry bro you really need to grow up. you came at everyone else bashing japanese, or as you called them chink-mobiles, even though they are not from china. i have no idea what thats all aboot. mustangs and camaros both suck according to you. and if you dont mind lets see a pic of you and your challenger? you in front of it saying HI AF or something. once again give links to you your 2 million dollar cuda or its :bs:
why dont you actualy say how old you are eh?. if you cant provide links of you 2 million dollar car i say :banhim: especially for his dumbass comments.

Alright...I'm not going to waste any more time on you, or this thread after this

First of all, I am 32, not that it matters. I have had my Dodge for 11 yrs. I have also had an '87 Berlinetta Camaro, and a 5.0 Mustang. I NEVER said they sucked, I said that they are good to get up to 300 HP out of, and that a Tuner IS capable of mod's that will surpass that.

I also didn't start out bashing Imports..I said that a muscle car from the 60's and 70's came off the assembly line with enough power to take a mod'd Import, when comparing Projects remark about not losing to V8 Camaros and Mustangs.

Yes, I said that Muscle Cars are better than Imports. I still do, because that's my preference, and I am entitled to it, just as anybody else is free to have their own opinions and preferences. That's called living in a free society.

I have a few pics of my car in my gallery, and as for the article, I already gave you the mag title and where to see the article. Do you need me to buy it at the news stand, and come down to your trailer park to read it to you, too?? Sound out the big words FOE-NET-I-CALL-LEE?? Either check it out for yourself, or take my word for it. I sure don't have anything to gain by lying to a bunch of strangers in a forum about it. It's not like I said I had one.

As for my unfortunate remark, I said my apologies, and the post has been deleted..you wanna keep bringin it up, go nuts. I've made my peace. You've already retorted with redneck comments, and KKK references. How original. I mean, why not just say I'm the weakest link?? Perhaps an Austin Powers quote, as long as we're hitting these phenomena at the height of their popularity

And ban me because a magazine doesn't post their articles on-line?? wtf?

A year ago, CNN posted this article, where the 'Cuda was at 1 mill. Since then, the prices have risen.

http://money.cnn.com/2003/06/26/pf/autos/cuda/

an excerp:

"The real selling price of a car like his has probably surpassed $1 million, he said. He claims to have gotten several offers over that for his car.

"I don't think anyone today would sell their Hemi for $1 million," he said. "

I think I've defended that successfully enough.

Now, this is the part where you take my latest reply, skim over it as to completely overlook the facts, interpret it into your own narrow-minded, ill-informed skewed view, and instead of a well thought out reply, say something like...

"hehe 32, more like 13! hehe. you're a doody-head, and I don't wanna go read a magazine that doesn't have boobies in it, so it's easier just to say your dumb, and your wrong. My mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts. "

Go ahead, pud....

atta boy. see thats all i asked for was an article thank you. your 32, i think its time to grow up my friend and like yesterday. ok shagadelic baby yaaaaa. i guess if you want to come to my trailer park your more then welcome too, but i live in the city with buildings, no trailer parks. meh whatever i can see your mad because people bashed you on you're racist comment so ill leave you alone to tend to you Klan meetings, i mean buisness meetings. peace bro have a good life.

:rofl:

anyway, comparing a V8 against a 4 banger for 1/4 mile or whatever is lacking in brain matter. Ello, V8... can we count the high number? I mean about the same weight, but so much horsepower. However, in terms of handling, 4 banger gets the pitch. And some modified 4 bangers with turbos or NOS or whatever, CAN keep up with V8s. As for Japanese V6s, they fall somewhere in between. They have excellent handling, and much more power than 4 bangers obviously (with a few exceptions). But yeah, the potential and capabilities of higher power is there. And with slight modifications, they can give V8s run for its money on the straightline. As for twisties and tracks (not drifting mind you), need I say which would have the advantage?

This is not a whiny opinion, it's a FACT.

I've seen late 70s 240Zs go above $40K (not fully restored) in auto trader. Not bad for a older generation 4 banger.

Why would a 4 cylinder car beat a 6,8 cylinder car in the twisties? All a 4 cylinder has is lower HP numbers...

What makes you think that it's an advantage anyway?

Why would a 4 cylinder car beat a 6,8 cylinder car in the twisties? All a 4 cylinder has is lower HP numbers...

What makes you think that it's an advantage anyway?
Two words- Weight distribution. It all depends on where the weight in the car is.

Not to mention muscle cars are nose heavy and skid easily.

they just have all out horrible handling. thats why they are only good for straight line racing.

they just have all out horrible handling. thats why they are only good for straight line racing.

man you're asking for it, :D, what an instigator.

Weight distribution eh? What about a FF 4 cylinder car with 60/40, and some MR 8 cylinder car with 50/50 distribution (I dunno if it exists, but let's just say it did.)

man you're asking for it, :D, what an instigator.

naw man, i dont mean every single car does im sayin this. most cars in the v8 area are not good at handling. they have mucho torque and power, but are so damn heavy. they are the dominators of the 1/4, while it tends to be the lighter cars that are running the tracks

Then it's obviiously going to be different, but a V8 with tons of weight over the front axle is going to become a pain fast, it's all in how the weight is mounted, like I said.

naw man, i dont mean every single car does im sayin this. most cars in the v8 area are not good at handling. they have mucho torque and power, but are so damn heavy. they are the dominators of the 1/4, while it tends to be the lighter cars that are running the tracks

i know what you meant dude. but you're probably pissing off a lot of musclehead, i mean er, muscle fans out there. that's what i meant. :evillol:

anyone care to answer my question?

look above, Jimster already did.

Then it's obviiously going to be different, but a V8 with tons of weight over the front axle is going to become a pain fast, it's all in how the weight is mounted, like I said.



Ok so, are you saying if I had an MR V8, I can go to my local track and blow the doors off the other cars and leaving them in the dust with no problem?

what do you think a Ferrari 360 is?

I thought those were V10s or v12s

you should go look at their website, they're making V8s for all 360 models currently, and all else V12.

I see

now you know... :D

But what if it was a V6 instead? It isn't THAT hard to make an MR car is it? I don't see much cars with that engine drivetrain layout

because it's a hassle to work on MR cars, it's cramping a lot of stuff in a small area compared to front engine cars. so the labor costs are higher. the setup isn't so convenient. having your engine behind also makes it a noise issue. if you have a nasty fender bender from the back (which is more likely than front), either the weight of the engine pushes forward which could be a danger to the driver or the engine drops (may be that's what Ferrari cars do). Either way, the car is totalled.

If Ferrari was a V6, it might not be fast as it is. What makes it fast is the MR layout, mid 2000 lbs+ carbon fiber body, and raw 400+ horses to churn your stomach. And the top-notch handling to match it all. Without control, what's the point of power?

Hmm Ok one more question, if it's so hard to cramp an engine in there, why not make it a 3 cylinder or 4 cylinder, they're small and light.

Why would Ferrari sell I3 or I4s? Who's gonna buy it? And I think 360's stock V8 engines are pretty light, considering the total weight of the car.

As for having regular MR layout, well look at MR2 and MR spyder, all 4 bangers. While the spyder sucks, the MR2 is actually appreciating in value. It has a I4 turbocharged engine that delivers 200HP (non-turbo does about 130) at the weight of 2660 pounds. Not bad for sporty car. And though it has tenedency to oversteer/understreets while making sharp u turns, it handles great otherwise.

Plus MR cars are not so easy to work with. Think about the convenience of front engines and all the access to the parts. While in mid-rear engine, you also have a whole bulk of empty space big as trunk in the rear for tailights. So you're stuck working with small squarish compartment in the middle, between the seats and rear pseudo-trunk. So generally that means trunk is in the front, and its space is so small, it's designed to only hold emergency tire. In this case, it's not how small the engine, but the location makes it tight and cramped.

I think it's also an issue with what's popular, what's norm, what's convenient. Remember the old Beetle of the 60s and back? Well they had the engine in the back, but now, New Beetle has it in the front to align with FWD. To match with times I suppose.

hey! this isnt a domestic vs. import or big block vs. small block, its about chick cars (cars that look good but have no balls).

A Prelude? We must be talkin' some seriously tasteless or desperate chicks here! lol

Hoping to explore the conversation, while not initiating conflict, the problem muscle cars had/have with handling is that the factory used to use rubber bushings, and polyglass tires. A remodified muscle car with modern tires and poly-urathane bushings has MUCH better performance in the curves than what left the factory. Tricks like relocating the battery into the trunk helps balance out weight distribution, too.

With the mods done to my Challenger, I have 52/48 front/rear weight distribution, .98G's on the skid path, and pump out well over 500HP. Now, I went all out, so most muscle trying to retain their stock tin and looks might not go so far out, but it IS possible.

I participate in slalom and do quite well. Although most members have Miata's and Hondas, one guy has a 911, and he does well, too. I took him for a run with me and he was quite impressed.

So before returning this thread to it's original concept of "chick cars", I just wanted to say my peace. As for Chick Cars, my wife has a 1999 Hyundai Accent, and it's pretty girlie.

proove it. documents and dyno charts

proove it. documents and dyno charts

Christ on a crutch...how 'bout I just take a photocopy of my hand flipping you off? There's your document!!

I'm giving a statement, and facts/evidence to back up the statement (bushings and tires) then gave a personal experience to further back up the statement.

Now if you seriously have nothing better to do than flame every post I make, then you really need a hobby!

You asked for proof of the 'Cuda, and I gave it. I've established my credibility. At this point, you take it, or leave it..hell, shove it up your @$$, for all I care.

It's just too bad that you're able to hide behind a keyboard, cuz it'd be a helluva lot easier just to run your POS against my Dodge. Shut you up by shutting you down. Heck, I don't know why I even bother, cuz you're just gunna come back, and instead of staying on the topic of the conversation, you'll have to make more pathetic insults and comments against me. Maybe this is your way of dealing with your inferiority complex from being bullied in school. Ah, the safety of the internet, eh Poindexter? The cool guys in High School with the muscle cars gettin all the girls, while you hadda ride by on your bike. Home for your Friday night Scrabble game with the folks. You hate them, don't you? Feels good taking it out on me...meanie muscle car guys. ban them. BAN THEM!!!! Those bastards.

Maybe you should watch Dr. Phil. The healing starts from within.

HAHA chill out bro all i said was let me see the documents not hey your gay.

Wow, I think he had a heart attack or something... well, he ain't coming back and that's for sure...

Preludes aren't that bad, really. Well, the older ones don't look nice, but the later models weret so bad. I race them with my 5.0. I hate the sound they make with the big cans on the back tho.

I'm only new here, and dont want to get into trouble since I read the rules and regs, but is it really right for someone to say "chill out bro all i said was let me see the documents not hey your gay."

I read all of the posts and that muscle guy really got off topic, and was pretty aggresive, and even used a hateful word, but for somebody else to sound like using the word 'gay' is a big insult is pretty bad, too. I thought we lived in a new world where racial slurs, and homophobic terms were in the past. It's pretty hypocritical to say to ban someone for using an Asian slang word, then sound homophobic like it's ok. Can't we all just get along? Accept each other?

Even this thread is insulting to Prelude drivers. Saying it's a "chick car" insinuates that the men who drive them are "feminine". I drive a Mustang, so does that mean I'm more macho than the guy up the street with a Prelude? ok, I AM, but that's another story ;)

I agreed to follow the rules, that said I can be myself and have fun, but don't insult other members, and be respectful. I was a lurker here for a little while, and decided to join, and have read a few posts that were making fun of other people, or insulting them. I think maybe some of the members who have been here a while need to go back and read the rules agaoin, cuz maybe they forgot them.

"meanie muscle car guys. ban them. BAN THEM!!!! " hehehe that sounds liek Jason from Home Movies.

btw..how do I use quotes from other people?

I can see this post is becoming a lil heated and I don't really want to piss off anybody with my opinions. I find, however, that most preludes where I live are the last generation and all have a sort of off purple bluish color that can look femanine. I also notice that the majority of prelude drivers are women. so what? I also notice the majority of Celica drivers are women but I wouldn't look at a male driver any differently. Lastly I believe that with the right mods a prelude can look just gorgeous and pretty unisex

and to Crazy Canuck if you want to use other ppls qotes, at the bottom of everybodys post on the right corner there is a "reply w/quote" button which does the trick.

and to Crazy Canuck if you want to use other ppls qotes, at the bottom of everybodys post on the right corner there is a "reply w/quote" button which does the trick.

Hey thanks RsX! While surfing today, I found this ad

http://cudaworld.com/adDetail.asp?cat_id=10&sub_id=0&ad_id=692

the seller mentions that the cudas are selling for near 2 million dollars, and I saw a few other sites that mirror the same thing. Looks like that guy was right. He should have just posted the links.

Hey thanks RsX! While surfing today, I found this ad

http://cudaworld.com/adDetail.asp?cat_id=10&sub_id=0&ad_id=692

the seller mentions that the cudas are selling for near 2 million dollars, and I saw a few other sites that mirror the same thing. Looks like that guy was right. He should have just posted the links.

huh? how is $550K near 2 million dollars? I think 'Cuda is famous because of Nash Bridges. :D Good luck to the moron who'll spend that much for it.


It's just too bad that you're able to hide behind a keyboard, cuz it'd be a helluva lot easier just to run your POS against my Dodge. Shut you up by shutting you down. Heck, I don't know why I even bother, cuz you're just gunna come back, and instead of staying on the topic of the conversation, you'll have to make more pathetic insults and comments against me. Maybe this is your way of dealing with your inferiority complex from being bullied in school. Ah, the safety of the internet, eh Poindexter? The cool guys in High School with the muscle cars gettin all the girls, while you hadda ride by on your bike. Home for your Friday night Scrabble game with the folks. You hate them, don't you? Feels good taking it out on me...meanie muscle car guys. ban them. BAN THEM!!!! Those bastards.

Maybe you should watch Dr. Phil. The healing starts from within.

Been watching Karate Kid lately? You're what, above 30 right? And you feel like you have to justify yourself to young kids you don't even know, by decreasing your mental age? Whoa... I thought people usually climb UP the maturity ladder. Since you rarely post, is this is what you call a worthwhile response? I am also intrigued that your Challenger has 52 front/48 back distribution, impressive, I am sure that's why some members here asked for proof. However, it's still obvious why I'd rather get a Honda S2000.

[QUOTE=Z_Fanatic]huh? how is $550K near 2 million dollars? I think 'Cuda is famous because of Nash Bridges. :D Good luck to the moron who'll spend that much for it.



the 550K is for a 440 Cuda. The HEMI cars are what are going in the millions. The ad mentions this, which is why I posted the link. Not that it's necessarily true, but there are more than just one person who believes this, apparently.

the v6 mustang, probe, neon, and volkswagen. but not the toyota celica most girls i know think there ugly....but lets not for get about the honda del sol.

i will have to agree that they are a girls car, because



a honda is like a tampon.




every girl has one

dude, unless you're a girl, that's disgusting. and disgraceful to all the people who own Honda-engined cars and motorcycles.

Honda-engined cars and motorcycles

it was mainly aimed at honda car drivers not at the moterbike drivers

That would also include the no torque S2000 and overpriced NSX.

[QUOTE= You asked for proof of the 'Cuda, and I gave it. I've established my credibility. [/QUOTE]

what do ya know..the guy was right!

http://www.moparaction.com/NEXT/next.html

[QUOTE= You asked for proof of the 'Cuda, and I gave it. I've established my credibility. what do ya know..the guy was right!

http://www.moparaction.com/NEXT/next.html[/QUOTE]

dude no one cares, just drop it, dont try and start another fight

Preludes are soooo bland looking

The boxster is the ultimate chick car. I have to beat them off with a stick. (JK) A couple people have said that the boxster is a chick car on this other forum but I guess a Hummer H2 is as well so what can you do. I think that envious people will try to find anything to tear down other people and their possessions and usually they really have to stretch it. What exactly are the criteria in order to be considered a "chick car."

Here are two different 'ludes for ya appetite...

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/501/258981Honda_Prelude.jpg
COMPLETELY RICED OUT Prelude.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/501/258981prelude-med.jpg
A very nice and decent Prelude....

I prefer the yellow one :lol:

i think the Scion Xa is the ultimate chick car, but the VW cabrio isnt far behind!