and while were on the subject...do u even own a honda or acura?.....lol your 91 300zx is worth like what 10000 maybe....cock boy i got more in my motor than u prob got in your whole car.....go to nissan hell

everybody else....sorry for the inconvience


obviously this guy has no idea how fast a tt is i hate ppl that start crap like that i mean honestly does anyone here believe an integra type r stock can beat my tt?

WTF are you talking about?

Maybe he hit new thread instead of post reply?

no i decided to post this here for u guys to see how dumb this kid is from the honda/acura forum he honestly thinks he faster for sum reason the whole top part is wut the kid says

... *ackward silence* ...

yo, i got v-tec wit 300 shot of nawwz an a 5" exhaust that wakes up the whole neighborhood and a body kit yo wit so many curves to put pamela anderson to shame!!!!!!11

people under-estimate the tt and over-estimate the n/a.

Nah dawg, check di shi yo, nawz be da ony wa to git yor rid up-n' snuf, ya naw what i be sain.

Ha, fuck Rice.

[ D . T . R ]

[ D e a t h . T o . R i c e ]

'NOS' isn't rice!


I'm getting a NOS kit in my Z until I can afford to get a TT.....

It is rice when your engine is dead stock, and you decide to slap on a 150shot.

Nitrous is fine if you have a good use for it. But ricers think it's a cheap fix to making them FAST.

-Wes

Agreed, running nitrous is like cheating. But do what you wanna.

Cheating? How So? And in who's eyes? Obviously you guys know nothing about nitrous! Everyone raised on F&F thinks it's this brand-new thing! Nitrous has been used in many motorsports for generations and many reputable shops still use it and have so for years in Japan! YES! There is a Supra, Silvia, Skyline, Rx7, and many more cars in Japan running on Nitrous!!!

Please do not make narrow-minded, uneducated, biased replys! You just make yourself sound dumb! Is a turbo considered cheating (to you) if you slap it on as aftermarket? A mod is a mod is a mod!

Nitrous Oxide is popular mod with modeed TT's to help spool up turbos

Your making yourself sound stupid by getting all worked up 1via.

(And your right, knightinwhite86, I've seen MANY TT's with a small injection, which cuts off at 3,000RPM, it helps the turbo's kick in quicker)

I PERSONALLY dont like nitrous, my PERSONAL preference. Im sorry if we dont agree, now how in hell is that narrow minded?

My dad used to street race back in the mid-70's, they had a race built 1967 Fastback Mustang with a 502, built with a 471 blower... And NITROUS.

(they made it themselves, had it compessed and all, this was back in day. His friend was a chemist, Nitrous isnt hard to make.

Dinitrate Monoxide, or N20. It's a simple reaction.)

He showed me pics of this same car after an accident, the nitrous was too much power too quick, the engine destroyed itself, throwing the car into a spin, inevitably causing it to roll an excess of a dozen times.

He said they would have won the race anyways, but the more, the better.

Now 1viadrft, never try and point me out again over something as stupid as this. An opinion, is an opinion, is an opinion. And I am entitled to mine, as you are to yours.

You think were being narrow minded, thats you opinion.

I dont like nitrous. Thats my opinion.

We can start a pissing war here, or just accept that we dont agree, and forget about it.

(still think I know nothing about nitrous?)

-Wes

hey man it is ur opinion im not a huge nitrous fan either but its not cheating to each his own tho. street racers should not be using nitrous its stupid it shout be used for the track. how often do u really need to go 200 on the street? but hey man just because ur dad used nitrous and u have seen pics does not mean u know jack about it. my dad does electrical work, owned a 68 firebird, and is in real estate does this mean that i know everything about pontiacs, im an electrical engineer, and top broker of all time no it doesnt. therefore never again act like ur top dog and no everything about everything because u have seen pics

damm, this is starting to look like the car comparison forum. all this bickering.

damm, this is starting to look like the car comparison forum. all this bickering.

I have to agree, lately there has been a lot of argueing, people aren't getting along any more :nono:

u have to agree? u just tried to strt up with me on a thread that was basically dead for 2 weeks

Go away, what do you follow me from thread to thread as I post and than think of stupid things to say :banghead:

no actually little man this is my thread if u dont like it U can go away or u can play nicely see when ever someone posts i can see that sum1 has posted in my cp then i can go check it out so no noone is following u, but if u handt called me out like u did there would be no need to post :flipa:

if u would like to talk to me personally any further u can pm me or IM me cuz this is how u get banned

NO-ONE...... nobody has mentioned why nitrous is cheating...

its not its not cheating in anyway thats like saying a turbo kit is cheating if ur car is not turbo originally

Now you've pissed me off schecter. I never mentioned that nitrous is cheating. LOOK BACK BEFORE YOU POST SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I was saying I know about nitrous because I know the chemical composition of it, the break down, how it SHOULD be used, when it SHOULD be used, and the effects if it's not used properly.

Any expert would agree its not for the streets.

I dont think im "top dog" as you put it, and to tell you the truth, your starting to annoy the hell out of more than one of us.

If your gonna call me out (or anyone out for that matter) MAKE SURE you've got a good arguement first.

With me, you have no agruement, so you need to stop.

Im trying to stay level headed here, and everyone else should as well.

-Wes

HAHAHAA no one said u were the one that was talking about nitrous being cheating maybe if YOU look back ull see . I could care less if u are mad haha why would. i wut are u gonna come beat my ass? so chill ur lil fast ass out. haha im starting to piss u off. im so scared. hahaha

Now you've pissed me off schecter. I never mentioned that nitrous is cheating. LOOK BACK BEFORE YOU POST SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I was saying I know about nitrous because I know the chemical composition of it, the break down, how it SHOULD be used, when it SHOULD be used, and the effects if it's not used properly.

Any expert would agree its not for the streets.

I dont think im "top dog" as you put it, and to tell you the truth, your starting to annoy the hell out of more than one of us.

If your gonna call me out (or anyone out for that matter) MAKE SURE you've got a good arguement first.

With me, you have no agruement, so you need to stop.

Im trying to stay level headed here, and everyone else should as well.

-Wes

Who the hell is talking to you anyway, guy? No one directed any comments to you until now... quit being such a woman! The original comment about being narrow-minded was not directed towards you! Get over yourself!

Cheating? How So? And in who's eyes? Obviously you guys know nothing about nitrous! Everyone raised on F&F thinks it's this brand-new thing! Nitrous has been used in many motorsports for generations and many reputable shops still use it and have so for years in Japan! YES! There is a Supra, Silvia, Skyline, Rx7, and many more cars in Japan running on Nitrous!!!

Please do not make narrow-minded, uneducated, biased replys! You just make yourself sound dumb! Is a turbo considered cheating (to you) if you slap it on as aftermarket? A mod is a mod is a mod!


See that part there... "YOU GUYS"

There-for, it appears you are directing that entire statement towards eveyone in here, who doesnt agree with you.

I think Razor GTR said it best, and right

"Talking shit over the internet is like competing in the special olympics... Even if you win, your still retarded"

Your proving your level right now, schecter.

Im not entirely sure how you can call me a "lil fat ass". If you've never seen me, or met me. Typically D1 prospects arent "lil fat ass's".

(Not trying to sound conceded, or try and shine you on, but I'm 6foot7inches tall, 255lb's, and 12% body fat... Yea, im a little fat ass alright. People ask "how do you fit in a 300ZX? Answer is simple... Lots of fabrication to mount the seat accordingly, haha)

So 1viadrft, this completely invalidates your statement of "get over yourself".

If you look back at the original statement, you can clearly see how this could have been directly at me, and anyone else who disagreed with you.

We should all have a Z meet. So we can carry on these conversations face-to-face. That would be fun, doubt there would be anymore shit talking sessions.

Just a thought.

-Wes

Wow.... you are so tough... machisimo!

What was that about arguing, talking shit over the internet....?

So what is your stand on nitrous now, BTW? I'm curious. Enlighten me... why don't you like it?

Machisimo... Im not entirely sure what language that is, it's certainly not Spanish, not Latin, not Italian... But it didnt quite offend me. Sorry.

I didnt say I was tough... I said I wasnt a "lil' Fat Ass"

Sorry you mis-took my point. Machisimo.

-Wes

Machisimo... Im not entirely sure what language that is, it's certainly not Spanish, not Latin, not Italian... But it didnt quite offend me. Sorry.

I didnt say I was tough... I said I wasnt a "lil' Fat Ass"

Sorry you mis-took my point. Machisimo.

-Wes

LoL... actually it is Spanish... but they wouldn't teach you that in Spanish I, II, or III, my young-padawan...

You haven't answered my question...

Whats your question? That, I need to explain why Dinitrate Monoxide is cheating?

I never said it was cheating. I just dont prefer it for street use. My whole story of my dad's 67' Stang was mis-taken, I believe. I was simply making a point of what can go wrong.

I checked with a spanish translator, he said he has never heard of Machisimo... O well. Doesnt offend me either way.

Good to see this has settled down. Let's keep it that way.

-Wes

WHO THE FUCK CALLED U A LIL FAT ASS? i called u lil boy ya and by the way this is really shaquille o'neal so ill kick ur ass. i had to custom fab my tt into being a forever convetible. as 1via said get over ur self fag no one cares about u how old are u really 12? machismo means macho u got the cahones which since ur only 12 they havent descended yet so go away lil boy

chill ur lil fast ass out

Mis-read. Sorry.

(Fast... Fat, mis-read.)

-Wes

(how can I be 12 If i've had two Zed's already?)

got me? ok go away run home now lil guy

Do I need to reiterate my point of how LITTLE I am.

You dont know how to stop do you? Your not making any sense, and you havent said one bit of useful information in your duration in this thread, all you have contributed is a load of shit talking, incomprehensible BS. Got me?

-Wes

AND U HAVE wut the fuck lil dude this is my thread i posted man u dont like it dont post all u have done is call ppl out such as myself and 1viadrft ur on the fast track to getting banned

... Um, ok.

Im not calling anyone out, neither have I called anyone out.

Stating an opinion isnt calling anyone out.

Maybe you'll understand if I typed like you:

"wut da fuk lil boy yo no notin bout nos man YO LIL PUK yo run home to yo momma no yo to ur sum1"

Are you trying to sound like a kid? Try typing with some form of comprehension.

LEAVE NOW YOU HAVE REALLY BECOME AN ANNOYANCE seriously unless u wanna get banned man cuz wut your doin now is the quickest way now if u want to talk to ME pm me or else its over and u agree to have it over

Children...why dont both of you shut up? No more bickering. Especially you Sam. But everyone needs to calm down and we need a mod in here to CLOSE THIS THREAD !!! Pronto...

I actually talked to Igor... You know, the administrator.

He doesnt care.

But in good interest of the forum, lets settle this BS out of forum. It looks as if we are the only ones who care about this topic.

I will AIM you.


-Wes
-Wes

Dude. Who are you?

I didnt do anything, and we dont need a third party coming in here and screwing this up anymore.

-Wes

ok then do it

i axiously await ur im lets go

Dude. Who are you?

I didnt do anything, and we dont need a third party coming in here and screwing this up anymore.

-Wes
I read the thread and decided to post...its not against the law! And by the way this thread is FUBAR already man. Party? Yo schecter...lets throw a party. Do you want to?

YA i wanna party

waitn for u to get ur 240th haha

Lets not invite samhain. But 1via can come if he feels compelled to do so. I still like a couple of posts before my big party...shhh dont tell anyone.

Okay sam i apologize, your invited...along with the whole world. Has anyone ever thrown a tread party before?

Um I would suggest you guys take this to the PM's if it's not on-topic!

Samhain: You need calm the-fuck-down! I asked you why you think NOS/nitrous/laughing gas is unsuitable of a mod? That's all! We don't need the dramatics! And past boy-hood (scary) experiences do not count! Any mod (to make your car faster, thus more dangerous) can get you killed!

Gentlemen: Keep on topic!!! Otherwise take it to the PM's!

Party? LoL :smile:

1viadrft... I am calm. Just do me one justice, read through and you'll see I am perfectly calm in all of my post's.

That doesnt mean I wasn't saying things that may have pissed someone off.

Me and schecter settled our dispute in AIM, in interest of the forum. Me and you 1via, were fine, so I guess everything is back to normal now?

Are we all in concordance here?

I submit we are, haha. :D

-Wes

we don't need this kind of hate in the z forum. glad to hear you two settled it. me or 1viadrift (or both) need to become moderator of the past z car forums. we definitely need a mod here.

ya im all for either of u 2 as mod that would be pretty bad ass

LoL....

My question has not been answered yet!

i have a tiny feeling it prolly wont be either ahah

Ask it again, im lost.

-Wes

Ugh..... never-mind!


Post pix of your car!!! I wanna see your FAIRLADY lights! Me-wants some badly!

My digital camera is dicking up, i'll try and figure it out.

If you want some, I can hook you up with this guy that sells them on ebay. They look exactly like the Fairlady tails.

I'll find a link and post it.

-Wes

look as far as a drag car goes nitrous isnt cheating, but if ur bragging about how much horsepower your street car has, nitrous is cheating. This is for the simple fact that most of the time on the street you will not have the chance to use the nitrous. Alright there are the sneaky pete kits (15-30 shot ) that might be aplicable to the street, but I highly doubt many peolpe have been in the situation to use a 150 on the street. I did say most, dont tear me apart with specific situations I'm just saying in general

Um.... NITROUS isn't just used for DRAG... just want to clarify that... and nitrous is not cheating no matter which scenario you put it... in that case all MODIFICATIONS are cheating...

But I will have to agree with you... you don't really see anyone using nitrous in excess of a 100shot... as a matter of fact I have not seen one legitimate street car witht that kinda set-up...

no in normal driving conditions pretty much every mod with the exception of VTEC crap will make a difference whether its ur suspension or gaining more boost in some way or raising ur compression (N/A). All of these you will seem some difference in performance even if ur just running to Wawa (go philly area) around the corner. Nitrous you see no gain till u flip that switch and hit that button and its a rare occasion when u get to do so

Not exactly...

The turbo's on most of our project cars (1995 GS-X with a 4G63T, 1990 Twin Turbo ZedX, FD3S, JZA80)
Wouldnt kick in until 3,000rpm. Thus for street driving, the turbines were never fully nominal.

But every other mod is pretty much consistant (other than Nitrous I suppose)

Nitrous is not cheating, im sorry, its not. It's just silly if you have a stock internal engine, with a 150shot direct port.

I saw a Del Sol with 100% stock engine (and about 12grand in the exterior and interior) not even a CAI system. But he had a 100shot Dry.

He blew his engine to high hell the first shot.

It's fine if you car is prepped for it, but for God's sake. Be smart!

... Anyone else want this thread closed?

-Wes

I plan on putting a wet nitrous system in my car for the track, I still need to find a decent shape Z in my price range, than tear it apart and rebuild it, :evillol:

Ok well i dont know about you but Im not one of those conservative non gas waster type drivers when im driving i deffinatly have my car above 3 grand a lot in daily driving

Im simply saying turbos are not fully boosted for a good long while into the RPM range.

And knightinwhite86... You dont know what your getting yourself into...

Hopefully you may have worked on one of these before... But VG's a pain in the ass man.

I know first hand!

If your going to tear apart the VG30DE anyways, do this:

Get the: (this list is for all TT components)

-8.5:1 compression ratio pistons
-Oil pan
-Exhaust manifolds, and turbos
-Heads
-Fan, and clutch fan assembly
-Radiator
-Intercooler ducting
-Intake ducting
-MAF
-Injectors
-Boost lines, and miscellanious items
-Crankshaft

It will all fit in nicely, and if you have the facilities, it is the easiest way to go about a NA (Naturally Aspirated) - TT swap... In my opinion.

That is how we did ours.

Note though, it isnt exactly EASY, but if you are mechanically inclined, DO IT!

Here is an AWESOME site on this... We used this as a guide for our project.

http://ashleypowers.com/Na-TTConversion/natoturbo.htm

-Wes

OOO i know what im getting myself into, a large money pit, I plan on leaving almost nothing stock, and I dont want it to look like anything else on the road, thats why its going to be a looooooooong term project, i plan on buying a 300zx soon, and since im gonna buy two one for a project and one for a daily driver,the daily driver will be N/a, ya I know im :screwy:

Thats a cool site, for a 11g that guy got a pretty good car, but I plan on pushing way more than 400hp, that car would be a nice daily driver

If you need a Twin Turbo front clip... Just hit me up man, we're moving them out quite a bit lately.

-Wes

If you need a Twin Turbo front clip... Just hit me up man, we're moving them out quite a bit lately.

-Wes

Who do you work for?

Im starting my own business...

A few of my buddies know some suppliers in Australia.

So Im starting my own business, my website is being built at the moment. But prices are ready, and products are ready to ship.

Hit me up at ShadowZedX@hotmail.com for any info.

-Wes

I need all kinds of stuff for my Z! I need to upgrade my fuel-injectors and I need a modded ECU....

Haha, wish I carried that kind of stuff.

I deffinately only carry engines, and clips. Sorry man.

Ever thought about a Twin Turbo swap?

-Wes

in my wildest dreams i have done a tt swap. i don't have enough time and money (definitely money) to do a swap. but maybe far down the road i will.

It's not that expensive... Just annoying, haha.

-Wes