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tricks
05-19-2004, 07:19 PM
i just got a 95 s10 with the 4.3l v6. im 16 right now have about 500 dollars and i was gonna go for the sound system but ive decided id rather have it fast. i was thinking the edelbrock tubular exhaust system but i dono i mean i would like to know my other options. any help from you guys would be appreciated.

ridge_runner
05-19-2004, 07:42 PM
yea do exhaust and intake first, then you can get your computer reprogrammed

tricks
05-19-2004, 08:56 PM
im a little confused on the exhaust. im pretty sure that edelbrock one comes with the headers and the y pipe but doesnt include new exhaust piping correcT? i would like to get new pipin a muffle the whole works. can this be had for under 500? if so where?

TopDogg
05-19-2004, 10:31 PM
I did many bolt ons to my 4.3 and the best one I would have to say was installing an electric fan and ditching the stock one.

If your one a budget find a used set of headers on ebay. You can find many parts for cheap there.



i got my Flowmasters for half the price that my local dealer quoted me.

After finishing my truck I would have to say the first 2 hop ups I would do is the electric fan and change your rear gear ratio. I dont know your tire size or what your running now so I cant recommend much.
Many people will put over $500 in bolt on hop ups on their ride when they could of just installed a set of gears for half that.

s10lowrider27
05-19-2004, 11:07 PM
i would go with a whole new exhaust, im not sure how places are where your from, but where im from, there are places that will make you a custom exhaust for under 200, then you can pick yourself up some new headers, but after that your probably not gonna have enough for an intake and i would also recomend doing that as one of your first options.if you dont get a whole new intake, atleast go with the k&n filter, it helps a decent amount.

tricks
05-20-2004, 01:01 AM
sry for my lack of car knwoledge but what would fear ratios do on a manual car?

ok for headers what would be a good set of headers to buy for a good price? i dont know what are the good brands etc and the exhaust piping whats a good brand and price? and i kinda had my mind set on a flowmaster muffler just becasue of the sound they make kicks ass.

TopDogg
05-20-2004, 06:03 PM
gears will do the same as they would in an automatic car. Greatly improve acceleration.

Many brands of headers out there. I found my Edelbrock T.E.S. system on ebay unused for over $100 less than new price.

A more free flowing exhaust will only give you more power at higher RPMs. I installed a set of headers, Y pipe to a high flow CAT and then 2.5" pipe to a Flowmaster 40 series. I then installed a turn down after the muffler which makes it sound more like power instead of big ratty sounding chrome tips. But my point is that by reducing back pressure I lost some mid range power. But on the highway it was like a V8. And after asking around this seems to be typical. But after a gear change it was no problem at mid level.

chiller7710
05-21-2004, 04:06 PM
screw the headers and all man...shave that whole thing first

TexasF355F1
05-21-2004, 06:04 PM
yea do exhaust and intake first, then you can get your computer reprogrammed
Actually if he has a lot of other things planned to do besides exhaust and intake, computer programming should be the last thing to do. He can get the chip made utilizing all of what's he installed and optimize performance.

94sser
05-26-2004, 11:00 PM
dude if u have 500 to your name you are wastin money on headers top dogg seems to stand by his electric fan so i might try that myself if he will tell me where he got it . go with an intake u can get for 130 easy, check out a site called aero turbine for that muffler screw a flowmaster , gear is good but i bet you got a 342 or a 373 which is pretty hard to beat all round,you buy headers pay to get em on and your 500 is long gone,and you still wont see anything but the tailights of my ss, intake,no pulleys a good muffler and save your money for a charger,in the meantime bump up your timing and thats the best difference youll see, i am on my second s10 both 4.3's

TopDogg
05-26-2004, 11:31 PM
Cant go wrong with a Flowmaster. Proven time and time again.
Numerically higher gear ratio will improve acceleration.
If you find headers install them yourself. This is why its a good idea to get a set with a Y pipe.
Find an electric fan anywhere. Go with a good name like Flexalite,SPL,Derale,Zirgo, Be Cool, etc.
Headers have always been a good way to go for me and I am sure many will agree.

If your just looking for simple bolt ons then headers or gears might be a little much depending on your mechanical abilities.
Start with little things since you just got your truck. K&N intake, fan, upgrade your ignition, etc.... See what you like.

If you really want advice I would say get your truck to a dependable level and then start working on that V8. You can get a nice 350 RTR practically anywhere. Its a simple swap especially if you want to remain a daily driver. Watch your local newspaper for people parting out V8 cars. Thats the best bet.

94sser
05-26-2004, 11:40 PM
flowmasters arent bad if you want the same sound as 90% of the other cars in america,be individual its your truck check this aeroturbine website i bet you wont want flows anymore a higher gear also drinks that 2 dollar a gallon gas unless your truck is missing an ignition will do nothing but make your truck fire hotter, who wants hotter, also for reference bosch platinum 4s are for german cars use only delco plugs they are designed to compliment your truck so dont listen to auto zone you will not find any bolt ons that will make a significant differenc in your truck., they just dont exist so yes v8 or charge that joker up, that is your only hope

94sser
05-26-2004, 11:58 PM
pulleys will give you another .001 in the 1/4 while also draining your battery , stressing your alternator and making other expensive parts work harder i have flows on my truck and i bet they sound about identical

TopDogg
05-26-2004, 11:58 PM
U never really stated your style or what your looking to get out of the truck. A previous reply by some newbie said unless you did what he said the you would see his tail lights.

$500? Might as well start wth the basic K&N air intake kit.

Go to ebay and see what you can find for your truck that you might be interested in. Yopu will save money there.




$500? 2WD? How about a lift kit? 3" body lift kit is under $100 and the get a set of 30" or 31" Yokohama Geolander AT+II tires that wil fit stock wheels. An awsome truck tire for less money. About $100 each. Get better wheels later or find a set of wheels and tires used that you will like.

Yeah yeah some say body lifts suck but he is asking for opinions

U can get a 2" suspension lift from Rough Country with shocks for around $300.

TopDogg
05-27-2004, 12:04 AM
94sser You seem to like to disagree with OPINIONS. But once I read that you couldnt even adjust your timing I think you lost your credability. Sorry dude your ego seems to be getting the best of you.

94sser
05-27-2004, 12:16 AM
dude u are a complete idiot he wants speed and you try to send him through the woods tricks dont listen to this bafoon, he will have you spending 3000 dollars just to gain 20 horses. the specs they give u in magazines arent realistic figure about 30 percent of the horses they give u , and thats under ideal conditions, intake,same cat, turndown not a bad idea, a ford idea but not a bad one, bump up your idle to about 1150 rpms and your truck will freakin scream,then just save your money and get a supercharger cheaper than bubbas v8 and better on gas, and youd probably smoke his v8

TopDogg
05-27-2004, 12:25 AM
Summitracing.com carries your Edelbrock TES system with Y pipe for around $275. (got mine on ebay for about $170) If you have the tools its not a hard job.
But then I would recommend ditching the rest of the exhaust and simply installing a 2.5" high flow CAT right after Y pipe ($30-40 on ebay) and then getting some 2.5" ($10=15 for about 4 or 5 feet at Summit)tubing to run after the cat and put a new aftermarket muffler ($40-125 depending on your choice) around the stock position. Hooker makes a nice 2 chamber muffler incase you dont want a proven Flowmaster.. Then the tailpipe(s) are up to you but you can install a 2.5" turndown after the muffler ($4) for time being.

You exhaust is done for under $350 if you dont get over charged on the muffler. All this can be done in the driveway.


I have seen other TES systems on ebay. You just have to catch them at right time.

You can buy the cheap exhaust clamps but they dont last long. I used them for awhile but then I followed up with stainless ones.
You will need at least 2 exhaust hangers. Under $10

My TES system plus the rest of the exhaust improved my acceleration on a noticable level.

94sser
05-27-2004, 12:25 AM
what ego is that buddy i am glad i asked about the timing it saved me some troublewith that wire , you dont have to know everything about part locations to have common sense about vehicles

94sser
05-27-2004, 12:26 AM
tell me exactly what said that was wrong ????? and if im not mistaken u came at me and didnt like my opinions

94sser
05-27-2004, 12:29 AM
ya you can bend those pipes in the driveway just stand on one end and pull the other towards you as necessary hes 16 dude hello

94sser
05-27-2004, 12:31 AM
man if you get your exhaust headers back for under 400 i will personally give you a bj

TopDogg
05-27-2004, 12:34 AM
This is Tricks post here, not a place for you to show your temper or ignorance. Your type come and go.


So Trick you might only be 16 but my guess is you are more mature than this 94sser guy and you will make simple choices to start with.

A supercharger on a truck he just bought that is a stock daily driver at age 16? Hmmmmmmmmmmm For the price of that supercharger you can keep your truck for an everday driver and go find an S10 that runs 12s for ur toy.


94sser I think you came on here first with the disagreeing on an OPINION. :screwy:

I just told him how to do the full exhaust with prices.(minus tailpipe(s) because they require bending) And Edelbrock bends the Ypipe to match up with stock CAT. From there back to turn down its STRAIGHT pipe.


TRICKS, I did this in my driveway. If you need any more help with it just email me. I am done with this post, once you get one of these morons started they dont stop.You willl see what I mean when he post another 5 or more times trying to right himself.



when you have your exhaust on you can follow up on homos offer. But I wouldnt recommend it.


And dont be discouraged to post any more questions. :smokin:

94sser
05-27-2004, 12:41 AM
what opinion was that did i say go buy the supercharger right now or did i say save your money on all the other bullshit you are telling him to buy that he will be wasting his money on, go resubscribe to truckin magazine quote boy

94sser
05-27-2004, 12:45 AM
ya tricks get you some duct tape hold em together unless you parents tought you to weld which i am gussing you cant do well enough to put on all of these parts if you want to spend your hard earned 500 dollars on 3 extra horses you have my blessing

94sser
05-27-2004, 12:56 AM
this is an opinionated page and the opinions igave him were actually economical facts so he could get the most bang forhis buck
bumping the timing-frreeeee
intake on ebay-100
mufflers 150 bought and installed
now you have the most significant changes for your truck for 250 dollars and didnt need a welder, a jack, a torch, or jackstand or a rack which topp dogg seems to think you have in the backyard by the doghouse, and you can buy some subs , i have 1 jl10w6 and a 400w ppi for 200 right now with reciepts,not stolen, and you can find the same deals where you live so what do you think you should do with your 500 dollars

tiltthe63s
05-28-2004, 04:11 PM
for $500 step up the throttle body cold air intake and exhuast maybe a little more but a signifacent diffrence then do the rear end and possible slicks for the more generated power but do the chip last so that it is done right, not knowing how big you want to go may even look into a super charger or something for if you want alot of potential out of the truck?

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