ABS control module problems
jlmie
05-19-2004, 03:42 PM
My 2000 Passat 4 cyl needs to have the ABS control module replaced. The dealer is wanting $1,300 to do the work. I can get a used one from the salvage yard for pennies, but I don't know how to remove the module. If anyone has information on how to remove the part, it would be greatly appriciated.
boschmann
05-20-2004, 05:00 PM
Are you replaceing both the electronic & hydraulic sections together or trying to seperate them?
tangfan
06-05-2004, 12:00 AM
I've got the same problem with my 99 Passat wagon! If you find anything out, I'll try it too!
Thanks
Thanks
Gavin Curtis
06-18-2004, 07:13 AM
The new version of ABS module that BOSCH is making for these VW's is absolute garbage.
They want $1000-$1900 for the poorest made electronic control module I have ever come across! Bosch has completely lost quality control.
Get a working one while you still can and buy some time......
They want $1000-$1900 for the poorest made electronic control module I have ever come across! Bosch has completely lost quality control.
Get a working one while you still can and buy some time......
njwidmar
07-01-2004, 07:04 PM
Same problem with ABS sensor in my 99 wagon, $1500 for part unless I find one on the cheap--at least the dealer will work with me to get it installed. Any advice?
boschmann
07-02-2004, 08:18 PM
http://www.car-part.com
You may have to look up another similar item for this particular piece, but it gives you local salvage yards in your area that have the car & their 800 number.
You may have to look up another similar item for this particular piece, but it gives you local salvage yards in your area that have the car & their 800 number.
fzadeh
08-01-2004, 07:12 PM
I have the same ABS Control problem with my Passat 98. I don't mind driving without ABS but would like to know if there is anyway to disable the annoying ABS flashing light and beeping.
samc
08-19-2004, 12:13 PM
same problem w/my 99 Passat. Somebody help us!
There should be a recall!!!
There should be a recall!!!
bmw2002nut
10-10-2004, 03:27 PM
Add me to the list with an ABS control module problem on my 99 Passat 1.8T. Ive lost all faith in Bosch and wont even be buying their spark plugs any more. The Module can be removed with a torx bit and is bolted onto the hydrolic brake box (or whatever u want to call it) on the left side of the engine compartment. It will be easier to remove if u take out the windshild washer bottle but if u have a good assortment of 1/4 inch drive extentions you might be able to get to the 6 bolts without removing it. Im going to check the wrecking yard for prices and will post back with any info.
Gavin Curtis
10-11-2004, 12:13 AM
Hey guys, I would like to purchase your bad VW Bosch 5.3i modules if you are able to locate a replacement. Trying to find out why they are failing so a way to rebuild them can be discovered. The design is very flimsy and repairing is virtually impossible. But persistence will eventually lead to success.
These were originally Mistumi 5.3 units released in 1997 Subarus such as the Legacys and others. Then Bosch aquired the design... probably not knowing what they got themselves into. So look for ABS units from 1997 and newer Subaru's. Ford is also using this system in their newer cars... seems to be 2000 and later years.... but may also be found in some 1998's. I believe the Mustangs use the 12 coil Bosch 5.3i which is what the Passats are using.
Match up the number of solenoids (visible when the controller is removed) and the interchange should work. I can't guarantee anything absolutely foolproof at this moment, but the serial data port on the 5.3i is ISO/KWP which is standard for most European, Asian and certain USA vehicles. 1997-2003 Subaru, Honda, VW, Jeep, Kia, Toyota and Volvo are most common.
They seem to be using the same protocol from what I have examined for all units so it should all work... so look in the late model (up to 2003)Subaru junk lot too if they don't have VW! In fact keep searching the lot for the makes of vehicle above. If the module matches visually and number of solenoids match... there is very good chance it will work!
Please call me at (208)892-0764 if you have any you would be willing to sell.
These were originally Mistumi 5.3 units released in 1997 Subarus such as the Legacys and others. Then Bosch aquired the design... probably not knowing what they got themselves into. So look for ABS units from 1997 and newer Subaru's. Ford is also using this system in their newer cars... seems to be 2000 and later years.... but may also be found in some 1998's. I believe the Mustangs use the 12 coil Bosch 5.3i which is what the Passats are using.
Match up the number of solenoids (visible when the controller is removed) and the interchange should work. I can't guarantee anything absolutely foolproof at this moment, but the serial data port on the 5.3i is ISO/KWP which is standard for most European, Asian and certain USA vehicles. 1997-2003 Subaru, Honda, VW, Jeep, Kia, Toyota and Volvo are most common.
They seem to be using the same protocol from what I have examined for all units so it should all work... so look in the late model (up to 2003)Subaru junk lot too if they don't have VW! In fact keep searching the lot for the makes of vehicle above. If the module matches visually and number of solenoids match... there is very good chance it will work!
Please call me at (208)892-0764 if you have any you would be willing to sell.
2000passat
07-27-2008, 11:15 AM
I am wondering if my 2000 passat is having the same problem. The screen displays a big "STOP", the ABS light, as well as the brake light is permanently on. Is this the same problem? If so, is it OK to drive the car until I get it fixed?
gused82
09-01-2008, 10:34 PM
I have the same problemwotj my 00 passat 4 motion , and the vw clinic told me that just to keep it easy on the brakes , try not to stop in one second or your abs module may lock the rear axel.
Regarding to the solution of the problem , try to find another VW clinic but not the dealer , because the will charge you an eye of the face , just to tell you the problem, and do not even talking about the labor to fixed , Here in Houston dealer charges 95 plus tax per hour , when in the vw clinic i pay 42.5 for the diagnostic complete, and since i do mechanic stuff a little, they even help me by telling me what to do to so it myself.
I have found a ABS module electronics, for 100 dls with shipping , when the dealer wanted 525 for that thing. look on the Ebay for it.
Hope that helps,bye
:cool:
Regarding to the solution of the problem , try to find another VW clinic but not the dealer , because the will charge you an eye of the face , just to tell you the problem, and do not even talking about the labor to fixed , Here in Houston dealer charges 95 plus tax per hour , when in the vw clinic i pay 42.5 for the diagnostic complete, and since i do mechanic stuff a little, they even help me by telling me what to do to so it myself.
I have found a ABS module electronics, for 100 dls with shipping , when the dealer wanted 525 for that thing. look on the Ebay for it.
Hope that helps,bye
:cool:
clinzay
11-13-2008, 06:16 PM
I nearly had a stroke today at the VW dealership in Arkansas, I'm having an abs module problem as well, on my '99 Passat, and was quoted $2200.00 for the module, not including labor to fix it. I'll take it a bit farther though, mine flashes the abs light, brake light, oil light, and my tachometer stops working, as well as sounding an alarm horn. All of this happens simulatneously. Mine doesn't do it consistantly though, I'll be driving down the road and it just all of a sudden goes crazy, then a while later, everything will start working again. Has anybody found a fix for it? I do light mechanical work, and figured I could replace the abs module if I had too, but I'm hesitant to put another one in, if it's doomed for failure also. Thanks
clinzay
11-17-2008, 04:30 PM
I found this post when I searched Passat, abs/brake light. Hopefully this will help everyone that is having an ABS module problem. I looked at their website, and they seem legit. I think I'm gonna try them out, they also have complete detail pictures on how to remove the module yourself.
I have the exact same problem as "ghite". I own a V6 1999 Passat sedan. The ABS/Brake lights intermittently started flashing (along with 3 beeps), then a couple of weeks later the engine oil pressure light started flashing in addition to the other lights and the tachometer stopped working. When that happened on July 30, I got my car towed to the dealer and they wound up replacing the oil pressure switch, but couldn't find anything else wrong. It worked fine for a day and now all 3 of the lights are back on flashing. Is it safe to drive it? Should I address the problem right away, or drive for awhile until it gets bad enough for them to diagnose the problem? thanks for any help you can give me!
I had the same thing happen on my 99 Passat. I read thru the forums and found www.modulemaster.com (http://www.modulemaster.com/) (I have no affiliation with them). The site provided me instructions to remove the ABS module which took about 45 minutes. I mailed the module to the company and about 10 days later I had my rebuilt ABS module back. Since I only removed the electronics part of the ABS module I was able to drive the car while it was being repaired. I installed it and the car has been running about 3 weeks now with no problems. The entire deal cost me $230 (including shipping) and it has a warranty for 5 years. The company was easy to contact and they were on the money with the repair! I would definitely use them again before spending hundreds or thousands at the dealer. These guys saved me over $500 on this repair. Mike
I have the exact same problem as "ghite". I own a V6 1999 Passat sedan. The ABS/Brake lights intermittently started flashing (along with 3 beeps), then a couple of weeks later the engine oil pressure light started flashing in addition to the other lights and the tachometer stopped working. When that happened on July 30, I got my car towed to the dealer and they wound up replacing the oil pressure switch, but couldn't find anything else wrong. It worked fine for a day and now all 3 of the lights are back on flashing. Is it safe to drive it? Should I address the problem right away, or drive for awhile until it gets bad enough for them to diagnose the problem? thanks for any help you can give me!
I had the same thing happen on my 99 Passat. I read thru the forums and found www.modulemaster.com (http://www.modulemaster.com/) (I have no affiliation with them). The site provided me instructions to remove the ABS module which took about 45 minutes. I mailed the module to the company and about 10 days later I had my rebuilt ABS module back. Since I only removed the electronics part of the ABS module I was able to drive the car while it was being repaired. I installed it and the car has been running about 3 weeks now with no problems. The entire deal cost me $230 (including shipping) and it has a warranty for 5 years. The company was easy to contact and they were on the money with the repair! I would definitely use them again before spending hundreds or thousands at the dealer. These guys saved me over $500 on this repair. Mike
drewrob40
02-03-2009, 02:41 PM
I just posted this on another thread, but I had mine rebuilt from www.cheapabs.com for $100. They have instructions on the website for how to remove from VW passat, but i just paid a mechanic 30 bucks to pull it out.
it worked perfectly when i got it back.
it worked perfectly when i got it back.
pmarhi
03-18-2009, 04:01 PM
Had the same problem with my 2000 Passat. The only way to fix this is to repair/replace your ABS module. I brought my Passat into the dealer and was told I needed a new ABS module. Cost: $890. I found a company not far from me that that will rebuild your ABS module for $139 and guarantee it for as long as you own the car: BAA Reman, Taunton MA http://www.bba-reman.com/us/index.aspx. They also will sell you a rebuilt module for $199, but you must have the module re-coded, and my local dealer would not do that for me (nice guys, huh?). And you must send them your original module. If you have your own rebuilt and re-installed, no re-coding is necessary. So I had my local mechanic remove the module (you can still drive the car), and drove down to Taunton, MA where they are located. They were kind enough to do the rebuild on the spot (only takes about 45 mins.). Had lunch nearby and came back in 45 mins and took it home with me, had it re-installed by my local mechanic and problem solved! No more beeping, no more flashing lights. Total cost to me: $214 ($139 + $75 to remove and re-install). Highly recommend BAA Man. They couldn't have been nicer or more accommodating. Even have removal instructions on their website.
coolworld
03-24-2009, 07:59 AM
so you should go to that company. they will repair your car in a reasonable price.dealers always cheat people.
SC2ner
04-21-2009, 11:55 AM
You do not replace the pump itself. You are only replacing the control module. You can buy them rebuilt or contact a dealer for a "repair kit".... they call it a repair kit so it's cheaper. Really it's just rebuilt. It's fairly priced.
Be warned..... you MUST get the superceeding part. For example if your part number is a 4B0-614-517-G it has to be replaced with the corresponding 4B0-998-375.... these are not toys they are your brakes. Get it right.
Be warned..... you MUST get the superceeding part. For example if your part number is a 4B0-614-517-G it has to be replaced with the corresponding 4B0-998-375.... these are not toys they are your brakes. Get it right.
SC2ner
04-21-2009, 12:08 PM
dealers always cheat people.
You're a dumb ass....
Some dealers try to cheat people. Not all of us our bad. My company gives away free shit all the time. Vw dealers are not even known for trying to fuck people over. We tend to be cheaper because the shops out there have no idea what they are doing. Next time you are doing a repair... ask a shop what needs to be replaced and how much... then ask a dealer.
Sears quoted a customer 400 to replace spark plugs on a ATQ 2.8 motor. We charged 150.... so please explain?
If you feel as though a dealer is giving you an unfair price. Contact me and I will give you the right price. Then you will know if they are cheats. Shops buy our parts for cheap... then bump the price tremendously and sell them normal with a higher labor rate. Though the customer has no idea because they tend to believe that dealers always cost more.
Dealer parts are more expensive because they are genuine. They don't guess whether its right or hope it works for all models of passats. The likelihood of your passat being like your neighbors even though they are same year and everything is less then 1:20... Keep that in mind. I am sure most of the idiots who would tell you to buy aftermarket would also not be aware of the fact that there are over 15 different ABS modules for the same year. VW's are high in technology. They are always trying to evolve things. Next time you replace a part... check and see if it's different from the one in the car. They are constantly trying to make things better and better. For example the coils in a 1.8t.... they went from L to something... to R at the end of the number. That is a way to tell if it's updated to something better... or newer.
Maybe you should learn the truth before saying things like that and generalizing. Some are bad... not all of us are.
You're a dumb ass....
Some dealers try to cheat people. Not all of us our bad. My company gives away free shit all the time. Vw dealers are not even known for trying to fuck people over. We tend to be cheaper because the shops out there have no idea what they are doing. Next time you are doing a repair... ask a shop what needs to be replaced and how much... then ask a dealer.
Sears quoted a customer 400 to replace spark plugs on a ATQ 2.8 motor. We charged 150.... so please explain?
If you feel as though a dealer is giving you an unfair price. Contact me and I will give you the right price. Then you will know if they are cheats. Shops buy our parts for cheap... then bump the price tremendously and sell them normal with a higher labor rate. Though the customer has no idea because they tend to believe that dealers always cost more.
Dealer parts are more expensive because they are genuine. They don't guess whether its right or hope it works for all models of passats. The likelihood of your passat being like your neighbors even though they are same year and everything is less then 1:20... Keep that in mind. I am sure most of the idiots who would tell you to buy aftermarket would also not be aware of the fact that there are over 15 different ABS modules for the same year. VW's are high in technology. They are always trying to evolve things. Next time you replace a part... check and see if it's different from the one in the car. They are constantly trying to make things better and better. For example the coils in a 1.8t.... they went from L to something... to R at the end of the number. That is a way to tell if it's updated to something better... or newer.
Maybe you should learn the truth before saying things like that and generalizing. Some are bad... not all of us are.
norcal707
08-01-2009, 04:34 PM
:)hi guys, I had the some problem with my abs module and the same price to fix it. I spend hours at the junk yards looking for one. however I found a website that they rebuilt it for $100 plus free normal shipping with warranty. they will even tell you how to take it off. www.autoecu.com (http://www.autoecu.com). hope they will help you as much as they did to me. screw the dealer.:evillol:
antiekeradio
12-08-2009, 09:27 AM
see my reply in the following thread for more info on DIY repair.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/t577273-abs_control_module___repair___replacement_cost.htm l
(i see it has been put in moderation queue)
http://www.automotiveforums.com/t577273-abs_control_module___repair___replacement_cost.htm l
(i see it has been put in moderation queue)
ValyRev
03-08-2012, 09:35 PM
I nearly had a stroke today at the VW dealership in Arkansas, I'm having an abs module problem as well, on my '99 Passat, and was quoted $2200.00 for the module, not including labor to fix it. I'll take it a bit farther though, mine flashes the abs light, brake light, oil light, and my tachometer stops working, as well as sounding an alarm horn. All of this happens simulatneously. Mine doesn't do it consistantly though, I'll be driving down the road and it just all of a sudden goes crazy, then a while later, everything will start working again. Has anybody found a fix for it? I do light mechanical work, and figured I could replace the abs module if I had too, but I'm hesitant to put another one in, if it's doomed for failure also. Thanks
My Audi 2002 A4 is having similar problems, oil level sensor on, alarm wont beep when I lock it and the ABS brake light turns on. Does all that have to to with the ABS control module? Help please! My mechanic thinks I need to buy a new one but will this fix the other problems too? :confused:
My Audi 2002 A4 is having similar problems, oil level sensor on, alarm wont beep when I lock it and the ABS brake light turns on. Does all that have to to with the ABS control module? Help please! My mechanic thinks I need to buy a new one but will this fix the other problems too? :confused:
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