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Thorst13
05-19-2004, 12:00 PM
All of those GTR's that have raced in different colors and decals, which one is the most awesome for you guys!?

It's a hard nut to crack as the Mc looks great all the time, but surely some kind of favourite should be in the back of your mind!
And there is always that one Mc that did not look as cool as it should!


Coolest:long tail Loctite #41 is just awesome! :iceslolan


Not:long tail EMI #40 is probably the "weakest" look! :rolleyes:

Peloton25
05-19-2004, 12:16 PM
It's tough to choose my favorite as there are so many that are really great. I'll have to think about that one.

My least favorite is very easy though - the AM Racing "Veuve Cliquot" livery used for the British GT Series was nothing more than a Papaya Orange longtail GTR with hardly any sponsor decals. Boring...

>8^)
ER

andybee
05-19-2004, 02:23 PM
I look forward to seeing the results on this!

I think my favourite is probably the 96 Gulf or GTR car, although I'm found of my San Miguel and Lark designs as well :D

a5678
05-19-2004, 02:48 PM
I must say I like the original Ueno Clinic black paintjob GTR that won LeMans. It just looks so bad ass. :D

BMW V12
05-19-2004, 03:25 PM
i hardly decided.......

coolest : definatly the LARK mclaren's , no matter if one of the '96 (#13R , #14R) or '97 gtr's (#19R , #27R) , the '96 GULF gtr's (#12R , #15R) and bscher's loctite (#22R).......

uncool : as mentioned before , the EMKA(#24R) and #05R's pink le mans livery it wore in '96....just ugly

^_^

andybee
05-19-2004, 04:01 PM
cool, Ueno looks better in the flesh than in pics. The customer wanted those colours, which did limit the design a little.

I did the following:-
1995 West, West FM, Ueno, Gulf, San Miguel, Frank Muller (was that 95 or 96)
1996 Lark, Lanzante Blue/Yellow, pre season Gulf, West (both versions), Gulf, Marlboro, 96GTR, BMW central flag graphic detailing on Fina cars

maartenvanthek
05-19-2004, 05:02 PM
the Ueno looks the best i reckon, although the Lark and that #05R dragon thing were quite cool as well. On the longtail's i reckon that blue thing with the weapon on it look very good, i don't know the name anymore, it was raced before the british grand prix though.

lamborghinirocks
05-19-2004, 05:07 PM
:useless: at least to me anywise

Thorst13
05-20-2004, 06:24 AM
I did the following:-
1995 West, West FM, Ueno, Gulf, San Miguel, Frank Muller (was that 95 or 96)
1996 Lark, Lanzante Blue/Yellow, pre season Gulf, West (both versions), Gulf, Marlboro, 96GTR, BMW central flag graphic detailing on Fina cars



Whoa, that was awesome man! :iceslolan

I love the 95 WEST,Ueno and Marlboro!
They're so "balanced"

96 GTR is plain awesome and one of the most awesome looks ever!

maartenvanthek
05-20-2004, 06:25 AM
that longtail i remember now is probably grogor fisken

Thorst13
05-20-2004, 06:26 AM
ooopsss!

That was alot of "awesome" above!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :loser:

drPhibes
05-20-2004, 07:16 AM
http://www.plus4.freeserve.co.uk/macf1/mac006.jpg
http://www.plus4.freeserve.co.uk/macf1/mac039.jpg
http://home.no.net/feebles/bilder/1995-mclaren-4.jpg
http://home.no.net/feebles/bilder/30321.jpeg
http://home.no.net/feebles/bilder/DSC02838.JPG

maartenvanthek
05-20-2004, 07:18 AM
second from below is wicked

andybee
05-20-2004, 01:31 PM
third from bottom looks awesome in the flesh.

Don't know if you guys know of Radical, who produce track day cars, but a couple of months after the 96 GTR was shown, there car sported a near identical livery in red with yellow wheels and a great big R draped over the car just like the 96 GTR - bit naughty :)

Peloton25
05-20-2004, 02:10 PM
I'm familiar with Radical. This isn't the greatest image, but here's the car you are referring to:

http://www.vfsvideos.co.uk/radical.jpg

I've narrowed down my favorite GTR liveries:

#1: Gulf '96 - if I were lucky enough to own a GTR this is the livery it would wear. The other Gulf liveries were also nice, but the '96 looks the sharpest in my opinion.

http://a6.cpimg.com/image/72/C1/16981106-cc4d-0258012F-.jpg

#2: Another of my favorites is the short tailed Davidoff livery. There was a long tail that looked identical, but I prefer the short tailed GTRs. I've only seen one or two "real" photos of the GTR that wore this livery (I think for a single race) and they weren't worth sharing, so we'll have to go with a shot of the 1/43rd scale Minichamps.

http://a1.cpimg.com/image/39/33/20381241-1095-025801C2-.jpg

#3: My final favorite for short tails is the '96 FINA #39 car with the USA flags draped over the c-pillar. Call me patriotic, but I think it looks really sweet. The #38 car looks just as good, but I'm not from Great Britain or France so.... ;)

http://a9.cpimg.com/image/41/3B/33904449-f6b2-0200017E-.jpg
http://a7.cpimg.com/image/AD/37/30261677-2074-0226016F-.jpg

#4: On the long tails, there isn't much to this particular one, but I really like the look of the JGTC "Zero" livery:

http://a5.cpimg.com/image/C5/8A/17360325-a5c9-01E00140-.jpg
http://a8.cpimg.com/image/80/98/23709568-c50a-01E00140-.jpg

Also Andy - Frank Muller was a '96 livery. The car was originally white and then later painted the more common orange and black. There were also two versions of the orange and black look. I don't have any photos of one of the versions, but did see it clearly in a video that showed McLaren's racing on a track.

>8^)
ER

andybee
05-20-2004, 02:21 PM
95 Davidoff ran at Monza. It was all stickered up including the Black!

Thorst13
05-20-2004, 06:26 PM
95 Davidoff ran at Monza. It was all stickered up including the Black!



You mean the whole car a black sticker!?? :eek7:

Not painted black??? :eek:

That was news to me!

Andybee, what's your favourite livery done by "others"?

Again I have to say you have made some McLarens look mighty cool out there on the racetrack :iceslolan

Peloton25
05-20-2004, 06:44 PM
It's really not that uncommon to cover the car in stickers rather than paint - they do something similar now as advertising on buses and private cars:

http://www.stimul8design.com/images/print%20images/sprockbug.jpg

http://www.mrsignsinc.com/images/WrapGallery/Hum2.02.lg.jpg

>8^)
ER

andybee
05-20-2004, 06:52 PM
yes, you can heat srink sticker material over an entire car. Quite a labout intensive process, but quicker, than say a respray and cheaper.

see this pic of a different car, http://www.seatcupra.net/images/thruxton_scc_2003/thruxton_sc_m0rk/m0rk_thruxton12.JPG

See the riples under the headlamp. that car is covered yellow in the same way.

Have to say my favourite by a mile would be the Silver one on the previous page, cant remember the name, BBA I think, after that, then probably the Yellow Hat from JGTC

Peloton25
05-20-2004, 07:11 PM
The silver car was run by BBA Competition - driven by Jean-Luc Maury-Laribiére - car owner (F)/Marc Sourd (F)/Hervé Poulain (F) at the 1995 LeMans 24Hrs race. The sponsors were YACCO/TULIES TBF/TELECIEL. It finished the race in 13th place (32 laps behind the winner).

>8^)
ER

andybee
05-20-2004, 07:35 PM
know it all! :)

btw, sending you a mail later eric

also, so its fair, I reckon my least successful liveries are the pre season Gulf 96 livery, never liked that and the Sal Incandela livery, partly due to the crap typeface

Peloton25
05-20-2004, 07:42 PM
"Pre-Season '96 Gulf livery"? :confused:

Also "Sal Incandela" :confused: I assume you mean the Dave Price Racing livery used on their 'WEST' car during portions of '96. I think the script on the door read "Sal Oppenheimer & Cie", correct?

>8^)
ER

andybee
05-20-2004, 08:53 PM
oh yes, Sal Incandela was an F1 engineer, where as Sal Oppenheimer is one of Bscher's companies,

Yes, pre-season, wow, something you don't know....let me find a piccy :)

andybee
05-20-2004, 09:00 PM
http://orion_web2.tripod.com/index/menu/mclaren/f1gtr2_a.jpg

you might have to copy and paste the link as its tripod

never liked it, but the sponsor wanted it, luckily I got my way and reversed the Gulf colours which had been one of the proposals for 95. Change of blue btw was because it was lighter :)

Peloton25
05-20-2004, 09:05 PM
Ahhhh - I had seen that photo before, but never looked at it close enough to notice the differences. I do think the later version is a huge improvement.

Incidentally, do you know any thing about the all white Gulf-liveried car that supposedly appeared in the first race in 1996. I believe that it may have been a replacement car used when the original was wrecked. Anyway, I've still never seen a real photo of it, only the shots of the small diecast reproduction.

http://a2.cpimg.com/image/E2/20/20380642-da20-028001E0-.jpg

>8^)
ER

andybee
05-20-2004, 09:11 PM
umm, now I think about it yes, didn't the car catch fire or something, so GTC used the Grioux car. Never seen a photo 3/4 but do remember seeing a grid pic from the front at the time with the white car. Cant remember if it had a Gulf logo on the front.

Peloton25
05-20-2004, 10:05 PM
Well the Franck Muller car also started the '96 season in white, so it could have been that car you are thinking of.

http://a5.cpimg.com/image/C5/FE/33918405-024f-0200014A-.jpg

>8^)
ER

andybee
05-21-2004, 03:11 AM
forgotten about that one too! Umm, not sure then

///M-power
05-21-2004, 07:38 AM
i like this one
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/96f1gtr4.jpg
this one
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/9167487-7fd7-02580190-.jpg

http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/dsc03616.jpg

http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/mac006.jpg

http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/dsc02855.jpg

AND DEFO THIS ONE
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/dsc02836.jpg

FireBball972
05-21-2004, 07:54 PM
I must say I like the original Ueno Clinic black paintjob GTR that won LeMans. It just looks so bad ass. :D

:werd: im with ya on that one!!! :grinno:

jcsaleen
05-23-2004, 05:14 PM
Wtf Where was that taken looks like its parked in some1's living room.

http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/dsc03616.jpg

///M-power
05-23-2004, 05:22 PM
its in the SYMBOLIC motors join in the u.s

jcsaleen
05-23-2004, 05:24 PM
Nice where in the U.S???

///M-power
05-23-2004, 05:44 PM
i dont know exactly i got it from
http://www.fast-autos.net/gallery/album86
im just going by the fact that the name is american compared to "important motors" in britain and it has a shitload of nice cars

jcsaleen
05-23-2004, 05:49 PM
Nice pics shit they have 2 333sp's & 2 dauer 1 race and 1 street damn.
333 sp's kick ass 700 hp v12 If you ask me they ll whoop the enzo. They still can compete with the lmp's of 2 day. there are only 21 or 24 built I think :disappoin.

///M-power
05-23-2004, 07:56 PM
more mclaren pics
http://www.fast-autos.net/gallery/albums/album107/f1gtr.jpg
http://www.fast-autos.net/gallery/albums/album107/f1gtr2.jpg
http://www.fast-autos.net/gallery/albums/album107/f1gtr3.jpg


read the comments on these ones lol
http://www.fast-autos.net/gallery/album106/f1

mini magic
05-23-2004, 08:39 PM
the car is now in florida

MalkaJB
05-26-2004, 08:26 PM
Nice where in the U.S???

Symbolic Motors is in La Jolla, California. Right outside of San Diego.

maartenvanthek
05-27-2004, 03:01 AM
it has been sold ages ago malkaJB :P

zx4000
05-27-2004, 04:45 AM
I don't know well whether these pics already was posted before.
Probably someone might have posted.

http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/import/import1085646813.jpg

http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/import/import1085646814_2.jpg

http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/import/import1085647063.jpg

http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/import/import1085646747.jpg

http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/import/import1085646747_2.jpg

http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/import/import1085646678.jpg

http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/import/import1085646680_2.jpg

MalkaJB
05-27-2004, 09:24 AM
it has been sold ages ago malkaJB :P

I know, but no one ever aswered his question about where Symbolic is located.

Unless he was referring to the car itself and I misunderstood.

maartenvanthek
05-27-2004, 12:28 PM
symbolic is in so-cal i believe, and the car is in florida

Mpowered
05-27-2004, 12:44 PM
I don't know how it was painted, but the Tuiles TBF #38 car with the tiles painted on it is my vote for the best. I'm glad Minichamps made the model 'cause you don't find any real nice pics of it.

zx4000
05-27-2004, 09:53 PM
i like to chose 22R GTR of Gulf Team only in longitail version. what do you guys think about that?
And i have a question from on launch of 02r in 1995 BPR GT Championship, As sponsor, the ueno clinic seem to reflect to be ridiculous in the way to advertise themself and i think they actually don't match with the category of motor championship. but just funny things.

http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/import/import1085679384_2.jpg


http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/import/import1085708180_2.jpg


http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/import/import1085679384.jpg

andybee
05-28-2004, 03:50 AM
dont quite understand what didn't match, but yes, the Ueno Clinic car (as did the West FM car) had reflective logos for Le Mans that they could be seen at night. IIRC one logo on the sill didn't have this effect.

IIRC the Power by BMW V12 also had this effect

zx4000
05-28-2004, 04:50 AM
dont quite understand what didn't match,

As far as i know, main business of ueno clinic is relative to medical (particularly urology and proctology ), so if you think meaninglessly you could reach there don't you? Am i only thinking so?

andybee
05-28-2004, 04:57 AM
ah, sorry yes, I misunderstood the question.

Yes into surgery etc. If a sponsor wants to bring lots of money to a team and get lots of exposure (dont forget Seikya won which is is BIG in Japan), then as a team, you'd hardly turn them down

grundski
05-28-2004, 11:41 PM
Cesar Mclaren from 95 LM, Then the BBA competition TBF Tuiles Tiles car, then Lark, Marlboro Anyone out there have more photos of the Tuilies car? I need reference from all sides.

murraydeschot
06-03-2004, 08:09 AM
These would be my two ...

http://home.no.net/feebles/bilder/1995-mclaren-4.jpg

The stylised driver on the side is VERY nicely conceived.

http://home.no.net/feebles/bilder/30321.jpeg

Cockrocket
06-03-2004, 08:54 AM
i would have to go with the 1996 gulf longtail as my fav. I love the contrast of the blue with the orange wheels

and the worst would be a mclaren longtail used in the brit GT series, aint the pure orange one but a realy weak light blue and white, so tacky and cheap. for a car like the mclaren the colours have to be deep and rich!!

EDIT: however (almost forgot) if the Mclaren F1 LM counts in this post then deffinetly that colour!

P.S. Does any1 have any good pictures of the Mclaren F1 longtail which peloton25 spoke and dint like, its just orange with no sponsors!i think its well nice so basically i have about 3 favourite liveries

murraydeschot
06-03-2004, 09:09 AM
These would be my two ...

http://home.no.net/feebles/bilder/1995-mclaren-4.jpg

The stylised driver on the side is VERY nicely conceived.

http://home.no.net/feebles/bilder/30321.jpeg

Nice roof tile and graduated sky artwork.

Worst? L'Ueno Clinic F1 ... A Big Mac in black? :banghead:

drPhibes
06-03-2004, 09:33 AM
i would have to go with the 1996 gulf longtail as my fav. I love the contrast of the blue with the orange wheels

just for the record: there were no longtails in 96 :P

Cockrocket
06-03-2004, 09:41 AM
ooopps, my bad, stupid typing error i meant 1997 :rolleyes:

zx4000
06-03-2004, 10:47 AM
Here are many high res' GTR Cesar 1995 :

http://www.allsportauto.com/english/maclaren_f1_gtr_cesar.php

Cockrocket
06-06-2004, 01:04 PM
In one of my mclaren images, most of you will now, the one with nearly all the various mclarens in it. The LM, longtail racer, longtail road car, 1995 le mans winner and a red GTR with mclaren GTR written on the windsreen. That is the car i am interested in. Does anyone have any images or info on that car?...my guess would be its the car which the racing teams would buy off mclaren and then they would refit it with their own paint. any info would be hepful!

andybee
06-07-2004, 04:00 AM
the red one? That was the 96 GTR launch car, now owned by Nick Mason IIRC

Thorst13
06-20-2004, 05:45 AM
Hey andybee!

Do you know who made the longtail "Loctite" #41 car livery?

///M-power
06-20-2004, 12:48 PM
In one of my mclaren images, most of you will now, the one with nearly all the various mclarens in it. The LM, longtail racer, longtail road <A TITLE="Click for more information about car" STYLE="text-decoration: none; border-bottom: medium solid green;" HREF="http://search.targetwords.com/u.search?x=5977|1||||cars|AA1VDw">car</A>;, 1995 le mans winner and a red GTR with mclaren GTR written on the windsreen. That is the car i am interested in. Does anyone have any images or info on that car?...my guess would be its the car which the racing teams would buy off mclaren and then they would refit it with their own paint. any info would be hepful!

This red GTR
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/mac026.jpg
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/mclaren_f1_gtr-f.jpg
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/mclaren_f1_gtr-d.jpg
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/mclaren_f1_gtr-c.jpg
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/mclaren_f1_gtr-b.jpg

And the 95 Ueno clinic
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/gtr-01-small-low-quality.jpg

Thorst13
06-20-2004, 02:47 PM
Goodies!!! :naughty:

cabrio92
06-20-2004, 05:49 PM
Thanks M Power.

Do you know if this one can be at Goodwood next week-end ?

Ciao
Phil

///M-power
06-20-2004, 06:44 PM
I dont know but i would hope to god it is even although im not going,I'll probably try to go next year when i get a job.

can someone tell me what the red pully thing and the red button next to the lights in pic. 3 is?

Peloton25
06-20-2004, 07:36 PM
can someone tell me what the red pully thing and the red button next to the lights in pic. 3 is?

http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/mclaren_f1_gtr-d.jpg

The red loop between the exhaust is the tow strap in case the car were to end up in a gravel trap or somewhere it would need to be pulled out of. The red button isn't really a button, it's the connection point to actuate the on-board air jack system.

I believe that connection point, along with the rest of the system was removed from the car when it was converted for road use. Also, the taillights and turn indicators seen on the rear car are no longer those flat flush-fitting discs as seen in this photo. They've been replaced with the standard units from the F1 road car now.

>8^)
ER

andybee
06-21-2004, 06:02 AM
Loctite: which car was that as Loctite appeared on a Ueno Clinic inspired design and a red/white car

Thorst13
06-21-2004, 07:33 AM
I mean the all black "loctite" #41 long tail from Le Mans 98' drivers Bscher, Capello & Pirro.

andybee
06-22-2004, 07:52 AM
no idea, don't think the livery was designed as such

///M-power
06-25-2004, 03:20 PM
Is this the one ur on about thorst
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/import1085679384_2.jpg
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/le_mans-1998-06-07-041.jpg

jcsaleen
06-25-2004, 03:34 PM
What does livery mean anyway just race car or what. My fave is the locite but a different model you could say :iceslolan. A little more street oriented!!

Thorst13
06-25-2004, 03:48 PM
Is this the one ur on about thorst
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/import1085679384_2.jpg
http://jh2003.freewebspace.com/images/le_mans-1998-06-07-041.jpg



Yup!

There's my favorite livery!

Peloton25
06-25-2004, 04:24 PM
What does livery mean anyway just race car or what.

The definition of the word 'livery' commonly refers to a uniform or a particular style of dress. In relation to a race car, 'livery' refers to the paint scheme and location of sponsorship decals. Generally cars on the same team will wear the same livery to show their association, with only slight differences to help spotters identify each car separately.

>8^)
ER

jcsaleen
06-25-2004, 04:45 PM
with only slight differences to help spotters identify each car separately.
But at that level of racing why would there be sptters can u go any higher on the racing totem pole?? After all you basically @ the top the only thing higher is formula 1 :smile:.

drPhibes
06-25-2004, 05:44 PM
jcsaleen: do you have that huge picture in your sig? if you're interested in showing people a picture of a skyline, post it in the nissan forums (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=212), and not in every single post you do in the mclaren forums.

Peloton25
06-25-2004, 06:41 PM
But at that level of racing why would there be sptters can u go any higher on the racing totem pole?? After all you basically @ the top the only thing higher is formula 1 :smile:.

I'm talking about the officials from timing/scoring, the people from the pit crew stationed on the pitwall with the lap timers, and of course the fans. Generally the differences will consist of unique colored mirrors, or in the case of the F1s like the Gulf Team, they would wear different colored stripes in the corners of the windshield banners.

...and yeah, the sig photo really needs to go. Mine is at least McLaren-related, and I still turn it off most of the time using the "Show Signature" checkbox below the posting window.

>8^)
ER

jcsaleen
06-25-2004, 07:23 PM
Oh I though you meant scouters. And yes their are such things as personal messages :bigthumb:! why must you critique my posts. On another note which Mclaren is in JGTC.

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