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Streetracing forums going down the toilet.TatII 05-10-2004, 02:14 PM what is goin on here? i've been gone for like 3 days and all i see are these weird ass races that seem to make sense or alot of bullshiters ( i believe the 3KSL95's race though ) but stuff like the 13.9 second prelude, or the R33 GT-R guy, and a bunch of other random stuff. i mean this use to the best santuary where everyone here is not really bias towards one brand and generaly most of us are not some young ass highschool kids making storys up yet not being old enough to drive. i don't know man, i still love this place, but its like the dark ages are coming to AF street racing forums. what do you think? i mean its okay to have a few here and there coming in like once a month, but we're like gettin waves and waves of them. its like they're invading us or something. veyron 16/4 05-10-2004, 02:26 PM agree 3KSL95 05-10-2004, 02:36 PM hey man thanks for the support, but i agree with you totally i think were getting all these crazy stories from the new waves of newbs coming in. what do oyu think we should do about it. :disappoin Raz_Kaz 05-10-2004, 02:43 PM what is goin on here? i've been gone for like 3 days and all i see are these weird ass races that seem to make sense or alot of bullshiters ( i believe the 3KSL95's race though ) but stuff like the 13.9 second prelude, or the R33 GT-R guy, and a bunch of other random stuff. i mean this use to the best santuary where everyone here is not really bias towards one brand and generaly most of us are not some young ass highschool kids making storys up yet not being old enough to drive. i don't know man, i still love this place, but its like the dark ages are coming to AF street racing forums. what do you think? i mean its okay to have a few here and there coming in like once a month, but we're like gettin waves and waves of them. its like they're invading us or something. My answer is simple, schools are almost done and some weirdos now need another public area where they can show off their idiocity with their fellow retards...it's ok, soon these low lifes will have a part-time job for their rich mom/dad to help feed their unstoppable riceing fantasies to which they will proudly present to their compagnions the follwing school year Damn them....Damn the all to hell :cya: Polygon 05-10-2004, 02:49 PM Not to worry. I am working up some specific rules for the Street Racing section. I am sick of some of the crap as well. There will be some standards set. 2000LS1Z28 05-10-2004, 02:56 PM I'd post some previous kills that I had, but I rarely ever get any responses. youngvr4 05-10-2004, 03:20 PM me too, i raced a m3 like a week ago but there had been so many 3000gt stories at the time that i just left it alone. but c'mon 2000ls1z28 i think we all wanna hear about the evo-8, post them, sometimes a simple race turns into a good 5 page debate. joebowlr21 05-10-2004, 03:47 PM i also agree. I would come to this forum to read the many a stories that entertained me al year long, then summer comes up an all these newbs just start talkin trash about everything. Now i wasn't a frequent poster on these boards until it began to slow down. Where have all the races gone?!?!?!? jeffs_GTP_sleeper 05-10-2004, 03:57 PM Wait... an M3 versus your 3000GT? That sounds like a race that should have been posted. :smokin: The constant bullshit calling and bullshit stories may be bad but my biggest problem with this place is NOBODY seems to post street vids here. jeffs_GTP_sleeper 05-10-2004, 03:59 PM hey man thanks for the support, but i agree with you totally i think were getting all these crazy stories from the new waves of newbs coming in. what do oyu think we should do about it. :disappoin You joined April 2004 and you are calling others newbs? :grinno: turbo2nr 05-10-2004, 03:59 PM yup all the little kids including me are gona brag about how they killed corolls and civics and accord wait thats me hahaha no but seriously the streetracing forum is going down hope it doesn't turn like the 240sx forum lolz .. we need to stop flaming and keep the love and just post up about nice kills..i love this forum it keeps me entertained between classes.. but lately lots of newbies have been invading with the ricers stories.. o0o well that why we have mods hehe and older a/f members to put newbies in there place.. 1 Hypsi87 05-10-2004, 04:15 PM Not to worry. I am working up some specific rules for the Street Racing section. I am sick of some of the crap as well. There will be some standards set. Go get'em polygon!!!!!!! :evillol: Raz_Kaz 05-10-2004, 04:15 PM I have an idea Maybe we can have some kind of test before anyone replies...like have them submit what kind of car they have and ask general questions example: What are the models avaible for the 1995 eagle talon? or What is I/H/E? and have several options to choose from, anyone below a score of 50 is automatically banned, under 70 is allowd to post with a warning that if they have a bs story their IP will be permanatly banned and all others will enjoy...but that will take too much work, unless we all pitch in on this 209 neon 05-10-2004, 04:23 PM more vids, more vids, more vids j/k we do need more vs threads good ones at it and we do need to chill out on the burning at the stakes because people are probably hesatant (sp) to start a vs thread just because their are so many bs flags thrown out hahahah turbo2nr 05-10-2004, 04:24 PM even better idea befor you can join a/f we should issue a test to see if you are worhty enuff.. i always wanted the govt. to issue test to people who wana buy fast or rear cars like rx-7 supra's ect. b/c of the limited supply of them. i just hate it when i see a nice rx-7 riced out with crome rimss ewww.. we must start to issure test ! 1 TerminalVelocity 05-10-2004, 04:31 PM I have an idea Maybe we can have some kind of test before anyone replies...like have them submit what kind of car they have and ask general questions example: What are the models avaible for the 1995 eagle talon? or What is I/H/E? and have several options to choose from, anyone below a score of 50 is automatically banned, under 70 is allowd to post with a warning that if they have a bs story their IP will be permanatly banned and all others will enjoy...but that will take too much work, unless we all pitch in on this and we will elect a leader who's title will be hitler! come on guys...this is nothing new, just go out and race and post for fucks sake! Everytime this happens, I leave the boards for a while because why? Everyone is too busy complaining, but noone is posting about races. Polygon, I rember your races...they were badass, Red, you posted some funny as hell stuff, keep it up! And to all the new(er) members, stop bitching, you have no right unless youve been feeding this fourm with tales of races. Another thing, I dont want this to be the -race story only- area...I enjoyed reading some of the banter about fast cars, giving advice on what mod to do next, having debates on hot new cars and which would do better on the street (not track). :2cents: turbo2nr 05-10-2004, 04:37 PM i second dat motion TerminalVelocity, 1 Raz_Kaz 05-10-2004, 04:43 PM Hey now, how many here are tired of all the crap that the weirdo's that stumble upon this site post for the sake of being an idiot TerminalVelocity 05-10-2004, 04:47 PM Hey now, how many here are tired of all the crap that the weirdo's that stumble upon this site post for the sake of being an idiot so were going to be eletist nazi's? why not have mods delete the threads and warn the member if its blatently highschooler? Raz_Kaz 05-10-2004, 04:53 PM so were going to be eletist nazi's? why not have mods delete the threads and warn the member if its blatently highschooler? How is it being nazist disallowing some loser coming by and actually wasting his time creating a profile to post as many stupid things before getting banned? On a side note, you're being as "nazi" saying that all highschoolers post nothing but garbage on this site youngvr4 05-10-2004, 05:04 PM not everone know all about cars, there are some that like street racing but know not much about cars all together, i bet this forum has educated lots already, let them post if its bs close the thread other wise, i don't think a test should be included TerminalVelocity 05-10-2004, 05:04 PM On a side note, you're being as "nazi" saying that all highschoolers post nothing but garbage on this site My answer is simple, schools are almost done and some weirdos now need another public area where they can show off their idiocity with their fellow retards...it's ok, soon these low lifes will have a part-time job for their rich mom/dad to help feed their unstoppable riceing fantasies to which they will proudly present to their compagnions the follwing school year someone said something about school kids before me.... so what if its a kid who is an auto enthusist or hell...a 40 yr old auto enthusist who happens to haunt the other fourms, wants to post in street racing and gets banned because he dosent know enough about mods? There are probally alot of people who dont know something as simple as I/H/E they may know it as....intake, headers, exaust, hell they may think they know and think its something completly different. Stop trying to flame me, I never flamed you...i'm saying why have too much controll when mods can do what they are here for, and what polygon is in the process of doing. Bty, do you race Raz? I'd love to be linked to one of your race stories? Heres an idea...how about only people who race and post their stories can be here....is that better? Sure we cut out 2/3rds of the site from posting...but you wont have the idiots then right? :disappoin Raz_Kaz 05-10-2004, 05:06 PM not everone know all about cars, there are some that like street racing but know not much about cars all together, i bet this forum has educated lots already, let them post if its bs close the thread other wise, i don't think a test should be included I never said that everyone knows about cars, but the "tests" will show basic knowledge so we can tell if someone claims they have a 300HP STOCK civic and beat a heavily modded Skyline that was beaing raced by Micheal Schumaker. If they do not know enough to proove they have the minim required knowledge to convinve us that their story is not BS, then they should either inform themselves some more...which I'm sure we all do erricer 05-10-2004, 05:07 PM Yeah I tried to question a race and got banned for a week! I hear the same story everyweek. I beat this rich guy with his fine girlfriend! :screwy: Sorry, but thats mainly why I never post here. Damn anyone know how to make my signature pic a little smaller? TerminalVelocity 05-10-2004, 05:11 PM I never said that everyone knows about cars, but the "tests" will show basic knowledge so we can tell if someone claims they have a 300HP STOCK civic and beat a heavily modded Skyline that was beaing raced by Micheal Schumaker. If they do not know enough to proove they have the minim required knowledge to convinve us that their story is not BS, then they should either inform themselves some more...which I'm sure we all do my point being -not everyone posts like that- but then, those who dont know much and want to know about street racing wont learn it from this fourm because they wont meet the requirments. and once again...do you race? Raz_Kaz 05-10-2004, 05:13 PM someone said something about school kids before me.... so what if its a kid who is an auto enthusist or hell...a 40 yr old auto enthusist who happens to haunt the other fourms, wants to post in street racing and gets banned because he dosent know enough about mods? There are probally alot of people who dont know something as simple as I/H/E they may know it as....intake, headers, exaust, hell they may think they know and think its something completly different. Stop trying to flame me, I never flamed you...i'm saying why have too much controll when mods can do what they are here for, and what polygon is in the process of doing. Bty, do you race Raz? I'd love to be linked to one of your race stories? Heres an idea...how about only people who race and post their stories can be here....is that better? Sure we cut out 2/3rds of the site from posting...but you wont have the idiots then right? :disappoin Dude I'm not flaming on you, you just claimed that my "Idea" was being to harsh, no one said it was actually going to happen, I just threw it out there to see what everyone thinks. And as a suggestion I never said that all the questions would be about modification, it could be basic knowledge of ones car. TerminalVelocity 05-10-2004, 05:16 PM well...its not really so much you, but how this "street racing fourms is dumb now" attitude keeps hapening and i'm sick of it. Its only because noone is posting good races. Perhaps if you wished to post you have to submit to a moderator facts about your car, or lack their of. And if you posted "I raced my 300hp stock civic against god and his pinto!" you would be banned....I could see that being an idea. Raz_Kaz 05-10-2004, 05:16 PM Sorry forgot about that last part about me racing, yea I do frmo time to time. I ONLY street race beacuse there is no track in my area, but i rarely do race because I don't have the fastest car (93 talon). I've raced many times against shit cars (which is what you usually find in my area) and don't post them here because everyone beats that "ricer" and i'm sure they are tired of hearing about it TerminalVelocity 05-10-2004, 05:19 PM i'm not I want more good tales and hell, someone racing a 400rwhp 240 vs a diablo is not interisting if its written like crap "Yah man...I rolled up to him, and light turned green. I shifted fast and beat him. It was cool" thats just dumb, but if someone posts a race of a geo metro vs a plymouth colt and writes it well, i'd defentally want to read it. Raz_Kaz 05-10-2004, 05:26 PM http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=219383&page=1&pp=15 That would be the second time I post a thread about beating a ricer, I just found it too funny to let you guys out on...btw, welcome back erricer...I knew that name was familiar Igovert500 05-10-2004, 05:28 PM Personally, it's a free forum, the power of stupid people will never cease to amaze you...if you put up a test, then you will eliminate the car-illiterate idiots, but you will still have hte knowledgable jackasses that just start fights. I think the mods do the best they can, and their abilities are right where they should be. Yes I get annoyed when you have an illiterate kid who rides a huffy to middle school coming on and telling everyone about the races he does on his xbox and trying to pass them off as legitimate stories. But even more annoying are hte bastards that come on and get banned, start fights, make a new profile, and keep it up because thier parents ignore them and they don't get enough channels to keep them entertained on basic cable. The only improvement I suggest is that moderators, or even just Igor maybe, gets the ability to ban IP addresses, not just usernames, to get rid of those morons who abuse this forum far more than someone who is simply bs-ing. Realize this forum can't be perfect, you will always have idiots, (hell some of them even provide humor on thier own expense) but you can keep it better by your own actions. Post good races, close bs threads, and don't be so quick to flame. I am not trying to point fingers or start fights, I just wanted to share my .02 Thanks, Geoff TerminalVelocity 05-10-2004, 05:29 PM thats my point, we need more stories like that! my solution is to race more, makes everything better! :icon16: Raz_Kaz 05-10-2004, 05:34 PM Heres another IDEA, remember that this is another suggestion that is being presented to fellow AF'ers in order to keep the street racing forum as exciting as it used to be, please refrain from flaming me about this next idea, thank you. Maybe we can have a commitee where the story is submitted, there a group of judges give scores and if scored high enough will be posted, either for extreme good content or just extreme stupidity...Point being the threads posted here will be enjoyable wtheter being bs or true 3kgt8 05-10-2004, 05:37 PM hey we're all family! so lets not stop posting races even if they are against not so fast cars. a race is a race. i also think we shouldnt ban people who dont have much knowledge on cars. everyone has a right to be here, this is a great place to learn about cars. the more people the more there is to share so lets keep this place the way it is. just ban those who get out of hand. 209 neon 05-10-2004, 06:21 PM to tell you the truth their really isnt much we could do, due to the fact that people will start threads being crap or no crap no matter what and really theirs not a legitimit (sp) way of telling if their bs or not. because a person could tell a legit story but not know jack vs a person that knows alot about cars but post something bs just because you know where I am coming from :iceslolan Raz_Kaz 05-10-2004, 06:25 PM to tell you the truth their really isnt much we could do, due to the fact that people will start threads being crap or no crap no matter what and really theirs not a legitimit (sp) way of telling if their bs or not. because a person could tell a legit story but not know jack vs a person that knows alot about cars but post something bs just because you know where I am coming from :iceslolan ...or as I said, we post stories for their entertainment value flylwsi 05-10-2004, 06:40 PM i agree... it's a newb wave. i think we just need more people for mods (hint) who can lock a thread quick. that's not too hard. flylwsi 05-10-2004, 06:41 PM not to mention... this, that shows after you post a thread: "Thank you for posting! You will now be taken to your post. If the administrator has selected to moderate all posts in this forum, you will be taken back to the forum and your post will be displayed presently. If you opted to post a poll, you will now be allowed to do so." why don't the moderators actually do that then? (no offense to mods, it's just a question in general) Zenom F1 05-10-2004, 06:41 PM i no i'm a noob and everything, but i have an idea. moderators could find some close matchups in cars and post a versus thread whenever things are getting dry just so people can come in and debate based on their knowledge of both cars who would win with equal drivers. flylwsi 05-10-2004, 06:43 PM there's a whole freakin forum for that. it's called "car comparisons" that's why this site is so huge and varied. we don't need to drag all the other parts of it in here. Zenom F1 05-10-2004, 06:53 PM whoops, my bad, i didn't no flylwsi 05-10-2004, 06:57 PM no biggie... as a member who was hear when this site started, i can say that i've watched alot of things... it gets old to see: comparisons (not street racing, just comparing) "who would win" threads actual track stories (drag racing, there's a forum for it) OT posts, like the one about the new cars coming out, just in general i just get sick of newb threads, or blatant lies. people need to really do some digging around... and redneck, there's a set of rules in the comparo forum, you may want to sticky a set for this forum, so you can just lock the thread with that link. DeViL 05-10-2004, 07:03 PM I think a solution, if it's possible, is to have this forum to unaccessable unless you have at least 100-200 posts. flylwsi 05-10-2004, 07:09 PM maybe you shouldn't be allowed to post in it until you have X posts... honda-tech.com is like that... Polygon 05-10-2004, 08:06 PM not to mention... this, that shows after you post a thread: "Thank you for posting! You will now be taken to your post. If the administrator has selected to moderate all posts in this forum, you will be taken back to the forum and your post will be displayed presently. If you opted to post a poll, you will now be allowed to do so." why don't the moderators actually do that then? (no offense to mods, it's just a question in general) Well, that really isn't our call. Only Igor can turn that feature on. and redneck, there's a set of rules in the comparo forum, you may want to sticky a set for this forum, so you can just lock the thread with that link. Well, RedNeck is not a moderator in this forum. Myself, Layla's Keeper, and Self are. Here is a quote from myself from page one of this thread. Not to worry. I am working up some specific rules for the Street Racing section. I am sick of some of the crap as well. There will be some standards set. Once I am done I will send them to Self and Layla's Keeper to review them and see if they have anything to add. ScFitz3000 05-10-2004, 09:32 PM Dont get all of us new people confused, some of us are just common posters. :( TatII 05-10-2004, 09:58 PM i don't want this place to be an elitist forums either. we want to try to attract more new people, not scare them away. its just that we want to attract the right people. if only there is a way to filter out some of them. but i don't think there is a way of doing that. i guess the only way for them to go away is just not reply to their post at all if its really that far fetched. Jay! 05-10-2004, 10:08 PM *cough* Ignore list (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/profile.php?do=editlist) *cough* Ahem, pardon me... I must have coughed on my keyboard. ;) Once someone refuses to take the community's help (or if they're just a complete tool), let them be helpless and ignored. TerminalVelocity 05-10-2004, 10:39 PM *cough* Ignore list (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/profile.php?do=editlist) *cough* Ahem, pardon me... I must have coughed on my keyboard. ;) Once someone refuses to take the community's help (or if they're just a complete tool), let them be helpless and ignored. *bows to the wisedom of the eldar!* Thats true too, another good thing I completly forgot about! DMC12 05-10-2004, 10:55 PM AF will always be a tad different than other forums because we're all spread out so far. Its kind of a sanctuary, though... away from the local boards with all their BS... -The Stig- 05-10-2004, 11:56 PM Well, RedNeck is not a moderator in this forum. Myself, Layla's Keeper, and Self are. Here is a quote from myself from page one of this thread. Once I am done I will send them to Self and Layla's Keeper to review them and see if they have anything to add. :eek: Polygon, you've got a PM. carrrnuttt 05-11-2004, 12:21 AM Well, that really isn't our call. Only Igor can turn that feature on. Well, RedNeck is not a moderator in this forum. Myself, Layla's Keeper, and Self are. Here is a quote from myself from page one of this thread. Once I am done I will send them to Self and Layla's Keeper to review them and see if they have anything to add. Poly, RedNeck was "hired" specifically for this forum, and the racing-type forums. I know you weren't specifically around during the "votings", but I thought you should know. He wasn't added to the "roles" of this forum, because he was given Global powers immediately, and it's a given that anybody who is a Global, is a mod everywhere, and that includes this forum. Same goes for me, although I won't "step-on" another mod who is a regular in another forum, if I feel the need for moderation anywhere on AF, I can, and I usually will. On that note, RedNeck is enough of a "regular" here, as am I, that I would think we'd have something to add, don't you think? Polygon 05-11-2004, 12:41 AM Poly, RedNeck was "hired" specifically for this forum, and the racing-type forums. I know you weren't specifically around during the "votings", but I thought you should know. He wasn't added to the "roles" of this forum, because he was given Global powers immediately, and it's a given that anybody who is a Global, is a mod everywhere, and that includes this forum. Same goes for me, although I won't "step-on" another mod who is a regular in another forum, if I feel the need for moderation anywhere on AF, I can, and I usually will. On that note, RedNeck is enough of a "regular" here, as am I, that I would think we'd have something to add, don't you think? Well, then we need to get Igor to put his name down with the rest of us. I'm sorry; I didn't know that he was hired for the Street Racing forums, my apologies. :sorry: Also, I'll tell you what I told Redneck. I didn't mean for that post to sound the way that it did. In fact I would love yours and Redneck's input since you guys regular the forums so much and help out a lot. When I am done I will send you both the list and feel free to add and revise as you see fit. I also don't mind you moderating in here either. I feel that if something needs to be taken care of, no sense in waiting for someone else to do it. -Jayson- 05-11-2004, 01:16 AM well really im a noob to this forum, mostly i just read the threads and learn, i post often in the cavy forum and a few in AF but thats it. ive never really posted in here but i read it alot but i too do find most of these stories to be bullshitish. Most of the time i read a thread and a few replies and it gets old really fast, i usually on read new threads now. But you guys are all complaining about bad stories and noobs telling them all, why dont all you vets tell some? i sure as hell would like to hear them instead of some kid saying he raced an Srt4 in his blah blah blah with blah blah blah blah and he almost beat the srt4 but blah blah blah. Or some guy flaming the blah blah blah sucks cause its blah blah blah and only blah blah blah would drive it. Raz_Kaz 05-11-2004, 12:29 PM well really im a noob to this forum, mostly i just read the threads and learn, i post often in the cavy forum and a few in AF but thats it. ive never really posted in here but i read it alot but i too do find most of these stories to be bullshitish. Most of the time i read a thread and a few replies and it gets old really fast, i usually on read new threads now. But you guys are all complaining about bad stories and noobs telling them all, why dont all you vets tell some? i sure as hell would like to hear them instead of some kid saying he raced an Srt4 in his blah blah blah with blah blah blah blah and he almost beat the srt4 but blah blah blah. Or some guy flaming the blah blah blah sucks cause its blah blah blah and only blah blah blah would drive it. Not everyone is blessed with a huge city where they can go everynight at a "spot" to street race. Some of us just come along a car by chance and take it from there. YogsVR4 05-11-2004, 12:44 PM Let me loose on a few thread :evillol: Just playing. Most of the forums go through their ups and downs when it comes to the quality of the posts. I hope you guys can clamp down on some of the more outlandish stuff. caleb56 05-11-2004, 02:15 PM I dont know the people on this forum are too critical. I am new to this forum and i sense a bunch of tension all over but when im at diffrent forums like the corvette forums i dont seem so hassled. Just lighten up a bit and the board will grow. flylwsi 05-11-2004, 02:26 PM lighten up? do you see the same newb posts (no offense, but yours are included here) in those forums... are there BS posts about people who raced some ridiculous car with their "car", like our buddy h22insd? no. however, if you look around at other forums like the skyline forum, you'll find tons of posers. 240sx forum, same thing. it happens everywhere. i'm sure that it happens in the vette forum as well. people find it easier to do here, though, b/c it's a "who has the biggest wang" type of forum. youngvr4 05-11-2004, 02:28 PM l0l the biggest wang Raz_Kaz 05-11-2004, 02:52 PM l0l the biggest wang LOL, doo-ty....wait...lol wang Zwrangler 05-11-2004, 03:45 PM it happens everywhere. i'm sure that it happens in the vette forum as well. people find it easier to do here, though, b/c it's a "who has the biggest wang" type of forum. ah the biggest wang....... why that would be me of course :p lol, i love these forums but i agree with Flywsi, theres too many posers and too much bull being tossed around but thats the way its gonna be and to change that is pretty much impossible, there will always be some guy swearing his stock civic took out a V8 camaro or whatever, its just the way it is in the forums and in life :p of course there are noob posts here and there but as long as they ain't bullsh*&in about somethin then theres nothing wrong with being a newb, everyone has to start somewhere right :biggrin: One thing i can't stand though is people posting the same questions and threads but in different forums.... case in point this newb here who posted the same question in so many different forums: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=315517 mah, all and all i find the street racing forum mostly a good laugh every now and again when i read of some guy pulling james bond theatricals and winning a race :D its cheesy at times but i like it :p caleb56 05-11-2004, 09:00 PM everyone has to start out as a neewb.Or am i mistaken? civicHBsi91 05-12-2004, 12:32 AM I'll post all of my stories here for now on. I usually write a good detailed story. I can type too so it's not too hard to read. Ill post a link of my latest story originally posted in Honda kills. flylwsi 05-12-2004, 09:54 AM just b/c you're new to a forum, doesn't mean you have to act like an idiot. caleb, no offense, but you've started a ton of BS threads, and then ask why "so many threads are closing", when really, the threads that are closed are yours. and they're written to start flame wars. gee, i wonder why they're closed. being a newb doesn't mean posting BS. do us all a favor. go through the older threads in the forum, read the "proper" way to post, and quit starting BS threads. then you won't get called a stupid newb. how's that for ya? -Josh- 05-12-2004, 10:40 AM This thread should be stickied so that whoever is new that comes to this forum can read it and be forewarned. Raz_Kaz 05-12-2004, 11:25 AM This thread should be stickied so that whoever is new that comes to this forum can read it and be forewarned. :1: Have a sticky where we warn the newbs with so many threats of what's gong to happen to them if they lie that they dare not post any BS Polygon 05-12-2004, 12:33 PM There really isn't a point to that. Once the rules are up that will be warning enough. NSX-R-SSJ20K 05-12-2004, 12:35 PM fuck the newbies if they post BS ignore it. It'll soon be at the bottom of the pile. flylwsi 05-12-2004, 12:40 PM that's the problem. people don't ignore it. so it sticks around. youngvr4 05-12-2004, 01:48 PM i do know one thing, if newbies are continued to be downplayed this play will never grow, i say simply teach them nicely and they will learn. -Jayson- 05-12-2004, 01:57 PM yes im a noob and this place isnt very inviting to me, kinda intimidating to post cause all you "vets" will try and prove me wrong even if its not BS. Or you will just ignore me as if my thread or kill story isnt good enoug for you to take the time to read or respond to. Maybe thats why theirs more BS threads than you guys are used to, people are trying to get some respect so they get talked to, so they try and make up something to get your attention but then you guys justburn them to the ground. Im new to this whole forum and really it feels like not to many people here respect me, im sorry im new to the fourm but jesus christ give me a fucking chance. flylwsi 05-12-2004, 02:06 PM so? if you can prove yourself, why does it matter how long you've been here. if someone calls BS, they did it for a reason. it's logical. prove them wrong. we're not "hunting you down" looking for flaws. don't BS, you don't get flamed. how hard is that? youngvr4 05-12-2004, 02:15 PM thats my point right there fly, you sound intimidating. hey man jayson, if you get in a race post it just don't post any fakes! some might belive some might not, but if its not unbelievable lots will defend you and believe. so please don't be intimidated by others, there just sick of fakes. 209 neon 05-12-2004, 02:17 PM BS threads are ENTERTAINING :lol2: youngvr4 05-12-2004, 02:19 PM ? so if i said i have a rsx-s and i beat a sti on the freeway what would you say? civicHBsi91 05-12-2004, 02:21 PM awd slowed him down :) TatII 05-12-2004, 02:33 PM didn't you know? that RSX type S got the "tornado" in it man!!! it adds like 30 hp. alright on the serious note. if your too scared to post up new threads. then you comment on existing post. i mean i started of not posting any new threads at all, infact i still barely post up new threads. just sit back, chill and comment, if you disagree on something, and you have a logical reason ( with technical, or personal experience ) then by all means contribute to thread. not all of us are scarey like "flywsi" ( no offense buddy lolz ) i mean there are plenty of nice guys if you don't act like a dick. youngvr4 05-12-2004, 02:41 PM awd slowed him down :) hehe, see i would have said either the guy wans't really tryna race you or he he was playing with you(have you ever sticked to the side of somone doing like 110mph just to have fun or try to get home faster?) or the guy did not downshift. possibaly it was'nt a sti but a wrx with a wing. could be several reasons but if he insisted that it was an sti and he know for a fact it was trying its hardest then id call him a igonrant newb and get out of here. -Jayson- 05-12-2004, 02:45 PM i dont act like a dick and id never BS to try and get respect, just it seems from the short time ive been here everyone is so quick to flame a guy who says he won a race, then you guys tear the guys car apart and argue for pages on how he could or could not have won. I mean how long is that thread where the guy said he lost to an SRT4 and all he said was he lost. I mean what does that mean you guys would do if i said i won a race? Im just starting to get into car modding and racing, but this place just doesnt seem very inviting to noobs such as myself. I mean i can understand that you guys have prolly answered all the questions i have to ask 100 times over, but its just alot clearer and easier to ask someone instead of trying to find it. But oh well, thats my 2 cents on the BS that goes on in here and im just a noob. 3KSL95 05-12-2004, 02:48 PM its ok dude by the way thanks for using my thread as an example i agree with you that people call bs to much but dont worry about it just stick to your guns and keep tellin the truth even if people dont believe you but hey your an enthusiast not a newb, lol Raz_Kaz 05-12-2004, 03:32 PM its ok dude by the way thanks for using my thread as an example i agree with you that people call bs to much but dont worry about it just stick to your guns and keep tellin the truth even if people dont believe you but hey your an enthusiast not a newb, lol :iamwithst: Just post up your stories, if you BS then your just an ignorant little bastard trying to gain some sort of accomplishment, if you don't bs, let the others do their talking and then post pictures, vids (if you have them, not everyone has a camera in their car) and then proove them wrong, hence giving you more credibilaty flylwsi 05-12-2004, 03:50 PM i sound intimidating simply b/c i'm honest and truthful? oh well... if you're honestly afraid of someone's reply on a website, don't post. people call BS too much b/c people BS too much. and that's the god's honest truth. McDiddy 05-12-2004, 03:58 PM personally, some of the problems i c around here is that people simply don't post all of their races. they just wait till they have a truly amazing upset or stroke of luck. post all races; wins, losses, and draws. it doesn't really really matter if u took out a SS Camaro or a Honda Accord. A race is a race win or lose flylwsi 05-12-2004, 04:13 PM strong words from a liar. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=223549 you're not one to talk, my friend. it appears that some people would rather post ficticious races more than anything else... :rolleyes: Raz_Kaz 05-12-2004, 04:32 PM strong words from a liar. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=223549 you're not one to talk, my friend. it appears that some people would rather post ficticious races more than anything else... :rolleyes: :lol: I knew I've heard McDiddy somewhere before and strangely enough I think it's a food item at McDonald's....:bloated: flylwsi 05-12-2004, 04:51 PM yeah, they're doing it in conjunction with bad boy entertainment and p diddy... :rolleyes: TerminalVelocity 05-12-2004, 05:11 PM i dont act like a dick and id never BS to try and get respect, just it seems from the short time ive been here everyone is so quick to flame a guy who says he won a race, then you guys tear the guys car apart and argue for pages on how he could or could not have won. I mean how long is that thread where the guy said he lost to an SRT4 and all he said was he lost. I mean what does that mean you guys would do if i said i won a race? Im just starting to get into car modding and racing, but this place just doesnt seem very inviting to noobs such as myself. I mean i can understand that you guys have prolly answered all the questions i have to ask 100 times over, but its just alot clearer and easier to ask someone instead of trying to find it. But oh well, thats my 2 cents on the BS that goes on in here and im just a noob. I asked him what he meant, because I couldnt tell if he meant he won on lost and he talked about how his fuel cut off....I asked him about that and he got upset....if you dont know your car, and make excuses on a race -we will tear you up because its obvious bs- that is why his thread got ripped apart....if you post a race, and your honest youll have me, red, youngvr4 and others backin ya and givin ya props. So eather buck up and post some races, or quit complaning and leave AF..... And...a no0b is someone who acts like a bitch and posts bs.....so dont be a n00b, just -POST YOUR RACES- and bty welcome to AF :) civicHBsi91 05-12-2004, 05:15 PM hahahaha thats great! Mcdiddy and hell even the guy with the website the skyline was on, looked like they were lying I had a good laugh...ahh man whats the world coming to Raz_Kaz 05-12-2004, 06:20 PM If you guy's think this is bad, wait till the next wave of newbs hit AF after F&F3...that would be a day for the record books youngvr4 05-12-2004, 06:23 PM hehe thats gona be funny and irritating Raz_Kaz 05-12-2004, 06:25 PM Yes and I believe to be well prepared, we should have an election for more moderator's for this new wave...plenty will come...most shall be banned Polygon 05-12-2004, 06:30 PM Yeah, us mods will be busy. flylwsi 05-12-2004, 06:43 PM hmm... good thing that people who are TRUE to the forum aren't made mods... ;) landyacht 05-12-2004, 07:01 PM As a 'newb' to the forum (i was a regular back in '01 and have just returned to AF) I don't believe we're all full of it. Yes most of the newbs that come in here end up doing things that ruin the forum, but we must not judge before we've had the opportunity to qualify. Everyone here was a newb once...I joined before Polygon did way back when! I'm not asking you to stop being angry or frustrated with people that don't understand what the rest of us do, i'm just asking that as a 'regular-now-deemed-underdog' to give everyone an opportunity to right in the Street Racing Forum. Thankyou. :2cents: flylwsi 05-12-2004, 07:12 PM everyone has that opportunity. they started threads, didn't they? EVERYONE ELSE has the right to raise the BS flag, don't they? pnoiSR20 05-12-2004, 07:43 PM Man, i totally agree with you. You've got all these peeps saying stuff that can't actually happen. 4 example: Their is a guy that says he beat a Supra TT with an all motor Integra with only intake, headers, and exhaust. Its just stupid. carrrnuttt 05-12-2004, 08:14 PM i dont act like a dick and id never BS to try and get respect, just it seems from the short time ive been here everyone is so quick to flame a guy who says he won a race, then you guys tear the guys car apart and argue for pages on how he could or could not have won. I mean how long is that thread where the guy said he lost to an SRT4 and all he said was he lost. I mean what does that mean you guys would do if i said i won a race? Im just starting to get into car modding and racing, but this place just doesnt seem very inviting to noobs such as myself. I mean i can understand that you guys have prolly answered all the questions i have to ask 100 times over, but its just alot clearer and easier to ask someone instead of trying to find it. But oh well, thats my 2 cents on the BS that goes on in here and im just a noob.I will speak plainly for myself, as that is the only opinion I can represent with accuracy: Even though you only read people's words in here, there is still a certain 'attitude' that comes off of every word that is typed. It's about what words you use, and how you string them together to make a sentence, and how you string those together to make a story (yes, I know paragraphs come before the story, but not everyone knows how to use paragraphs around here). I am always suspicious of people who talk about their car like its feelings can get hurt or something. Smacks of fanaticism. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my cars, any and all of them, but I know they are just instruments for my pleasure/leisure, not some sentient being that'll get its feelings hurt if somebody talks bad about it. That's another thing. Cars are usually 'talked shit' about in here, only if the owner called it in. Get this right - it's not the car's fault usually, it's the over-sensitive owner's assertion that if his/her car can shit, then it's shit won't stink. Those people are just begging to be taken down a notch. A good example is the people who have been crying foul about what's being said about 3000GT's in here. YogsVR4 has been here longer than I have, and youngvr4 has been around a few months. I doubt if you ask either one of them, that they'll say that the 3000GT gets no respect around here, especially the VR-4. Of course, there's always the numbskulls that will say crap like "it's only a Neon/Honda/<insert car make here>", or something similar. Thing is, these people are just a variation of the abovementioned annoyance...the "my car's shit don't stink" people. Because if they didn't feel that way, they won't be making such remarks, making others defensive. Bottomline, you don't come-off or act like an ass, people won't come at, or perceive you as one. Before you start whining about how you are being treated in here, pay attention to how you presented yourself upon entrance. We're not assholes in here - unless you make us one. Come in with the mindset: "it's their world", and soon enough, you'll get out with the impression: "it's our world". Otherwise, you'll just get out (or kicked out). Skyline_R32_Canada 05-12-2004, 09:08 PM suggestion: maybe the mods (or administrator) should make an intelligence test on cars n such and you have to get like 70% or better before you're eligible to become an AF member? lol that way the users who don't know squat all won't be allowed to waste precious threads and viewing time by mods all the time TatII 05-12-2004, 09:11 PM oh yeah, please type in proper english. DO NOT type like the ICY HOT STUNTAS!!! that will only make your first impression go down the drain. Polygon 05-12-2004, 10:05 PM suggestion: maybe the mods (or administrator) should make an intelligence test on cars n such and you have to get like 70% or better before you're eligible to become an AF member? lol that way the users who don't know squat all won't be allowed to waste precious threads and viewing time by mods all the time Well, that is a very poor idea. I understand you're logic behind this idea and it would shut out a lot of people who are posers and bullshitters. However, this also blocks out people who are just trying to get into the hobby and learn new things. How can you be against that? I am sure you weren't born with the automotive knowledge you have. This is place for learning and I more than happy to help people grow into the hobby and I learn new things all the time. It is attitudes like yours that some people feel unwanted. I also would like to say that I fully agree with what Carrnutt had to say in his last post. -Jayson- 05-12-2004, 10:17 PM yeah a test isnt a good idea, i know for sure i wouldnt be here. . . Skyline_R32_Canada 05-12-2004, 10:21 PM ya i guess i was just venting some of my anger, sorry bout that oh by the way, any of you guys coming up to toronto for import fest in august? it's gonna be amazing, tons of GTR's coming over from japan supposedly SpaceManSpiff 05-13-2004, 12:13 AM How's this for a suggestion: a one-strike policy. If someone is being stupid, moronic, or otherwise a general pain in the ass, they get a 6 month ban from the street-racing forums on the first offence. If they come back and are still stupid, they get a 1 year ban, and if they still persist, they get a lifetime. If they try to come back under a different name, they get an ip address ban, permenately. And this is only for people making asses out of themselves. If it is only due to ignorance, then that's not part of it, at least as long as they don't insist that they are right to the point of annoyance. For instance, I made a rather stupid remark about ka24det vs sr20det, and Tat jumped on me rather hard. I admitted I was wrong, and appologised. That's not grounds for a ban. If I had insisted he was wrong, made a big deal out of it, acted immauturely, and thuroughly made an ass out of myself over the issue, I would have gotten banned. Any takers? youngvr4 05-13-2004, 12:26 AM thats more on the right track but 6 months is a long time landyacht 05-13-2004, 12:34 AM everyone has that opportunity. they started threads, didn't they? EVERYONE ELSE has the right to raise the BS flag, don't they? Everyone absolutely has this right! And i see what you're saying, i guess that was my bad in my previous statement. I guess we both see each others point!! Bottomline, you don't come-off or act like an ass, people won't come at, or perceive you as one. Before you start whining about how you are being treated in here, pay attention to how you presented yourself upon entrance. We're not assholes in here - unless you make us one. I couldn't agree more...i'm not trying to say you guys are something you're not, just like i hope you're not pre-judging me. But if this quote is seen by the people that are (on both ends), i hope this will make those people think and see what they're doing. oh yeah, please type in proper english. DO NOT type like the ICY HOT STUNTAS!!! that will only make your first impression go down the drain. AMEN! There's nothing more frustrating then trying to read through all that garbage! The occasional typo is okay but some of this stuff is really out there!! Okay i'm done now...happy postings!! :biggrin: Cbass 05-13-2004, 09:43 AM so were going to be eletist nazi's? Did someone say my name? :iceslolan Raz_Kaz 05-13-2004, 11:53 AM suggestion: maybe the mods (or administrator) should make an intelligence test on cars n such and you have to get like 70% or better before you're eligible to become an AF member? lol that way the users who don't know squat all won't be allowed to waste precious threads and viewing time by mods all the time Damn you skyline_r32_Canada! I came up with that idea first and mine was suggested in a better place, before postings...That way we can lower the amount of BS giong around and it does not prevent newbs from coming in here and learning. RazorGTR 05-13-2004, 01:22 PM It is easy to spot bullshit, and maybe the dedicated mods need to be a bit more pro-active or re-active. Either way they are doing a great job. Even though I don't post much I browse this area ALL the time. Something that bothers me though is, even though you may think something is a load of crap in reality it is possible. Take something that I don't talk about much at all. 4 months after purchasing my GTR I got my ass handed to me by a little Mitzi Mirage! For those that don't know what it is, it is a little car simular in size to the Dodge Neon and is N/A. The guy had done an EVO engine swap and was making the same if not more power than I was in a car that was 800 lbs LIGHTER. Little did I know at the time. While there seems to be quite a bit of crap getting posted, sometimes there is truth in it while as I do agree many times it is complete and utter bullshit to the first degree. The regulars need to weed through it, it shouldn't always be left up to a moderator. If it is crap don't reply the thread will die pretty simple. Don't get your undies in a bunch as quite possibly that is what the threads author is actually looking for, ATTENTION. TatII 05-13-2004, 02:48 PM well i think temp banning is not that key because we all offend one another without even doing it on purpose. like before me and flywsi had a debate that went on for quit long, and i forgot what da hell we were debating about. that would've meant we would've gotten banned temporarly. but still we didn't really have beef with each other and we agree on most other stuff. but i think what would be more funnier would be that if you fuck up or do something dumb, you get demoted. so lets say if your a noobie, and you bullshitted or something, the mod gets to put t his label on you like "bullshiter but will change" and so on. and if they're behavior gets better, you promote them with a better title like "born again af'er" or something like that. i dunno. its just an idea -Jayson- 05-13-2004, 02:54 PM thats a great idea, give the people who BS all the time custom titles, and the more they BS the worse their title gets, eventually they will get so embarressed and recieve so little respect that they will either leave or stop BS! GOOD IdEA! Raz_Kaz 05-13-2004, 03:10 PM well i think temp banning is not that key because we all offend one another without even doing it on purpose. like before me and flywsi had a debate that went on for quit long, and i forgot what da hell we were debating about. that would've meant we would've gotten banned temporarly. but still we didn't really have beef with each other and we agree on most other stuff. but i think what would be more funnier would be that if you fuck up or do something dumb, you get demoted. so lets say if your a noobie, and you bullshitted or something, the mod gets to put t his label on you like "bullshiter but will change" and so on. and if they're behavior gets better, you promote them with a better title like "born again af'er" or something like that. i dunno. its just an idea LOL "Bull-shitter Anonymous" NSX-R-SSJ20K 05-13-2004, 04:21 PM i take back whatever i said . WTF happened to the forums. Whats with all the BS threads. How the hell did these people come up with this shit. Too much fast and furious. I'm gonna wait till all this blows over till i post again. flylwsi 05-13-2004, 04:42 PM well i think temp banning is not that key because we all offend one another without even doing it on purpose. like before me and flywsi had a debate that went on for quit long, and i forgot what da hell we were debating about. that would've meant we would've gotten banned temporarly. but still we didn't really have beef with each other and we agree on most other stuff. but i think what would be more funnier would be that if you fuck up or do something dumb, you get demoted. so lets say if your a noobie, and you bullshitted or something, the mod gets to put t his label on you like "bullshiter but will change" and so on. and if they're behavior gets better, you promote them with a better title like "born again af'er" or something like that. i dunno. its just an idea the difference in using you and i as your example: we're not BS'ers. we debated logically, and stayed on topic... that should be a lesson to people. don't take it personal. kfoote 05-13-2004, 06:08 PM It is easy to spot bullshit, and maybe the dedicated mods need to be a bit more pro-active or re-active. Either way they are doing a great job. Even though I don't post much I browse this area ALL the time. Something that bothers me though is, even though you may think something is a load of crap in reality it is possible. Take something that I don't talk about much at all. 4 months after purchasing my GTR I got my ass handed to me by a little Mitzi Mirage! For those that don't know what it is, it is a little car simular in size to the Dodge Neon and is N/A. The guy had done an EVO engine swap and was making the same if not more power than I was in a car that was 800 lbs LIGHTER. Little did I know at the time. While there seems to be quite a bit of crap getting posted, sometimes there is truth in it while as I do agree many times it is complete and utter bullshit to the first degree. The regulars need to weed through it, it shouldn't always be left up to a moderator. If it is crap don't reply the thread will die pretty simple. Don't get your undies in a bunch as quite possibly that is what the threads author is actually looking for, ATTENTION. This is exactly how I like to look at the posts that are obvious BS: As a challenge. I have had a couple of good discussions with people (Most notably with flywsi in the "Infamous Probe-Urban" debate), where even the BS can lead to interesting insightful discussions. I'm totally against the test thing because it can eliminate people who have a ligitimate interest that may want to come here to learn something that simply don't know much about cars. My personal areas of expertise are suspension and vehicle dynamics, and it's not very often I get into engine discussions simply because I don't know enough about them. if a good chunk of the test were about which Honda or Nissan engine was in what car, I wouldn't have a clue and would be SOL. vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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