One guy was chillin with his nice blue Tib. Hood open, mass bluse wires, Injen intake and sweet sounding exaust (found out later when he followed me to the street where we raced) He was telling his friend how he would race anything when I walked up, so I asked if he wanted to take on a 240sx. Aparently he smoked a nismo 240 thats in his club...so I was intrigued by this GT he had.

We went out, rolling up to the line I looked over, he looked cocky as the flager (his buddy) lined us up. I brought the RPM to 4,5K and as the flaggers hand went down I sliped the clutch, rolling into the throddle I Jumped past him, my RWD schooling his FWD and my reaction giving me even more of a jump, but as I let off the clutch I lost traction, up untill 7K rpm. Then it happened....I couldnt get into second, I reved and slamed and it didnt go...I tried again, now he was past me by a car, and got it... kicking it slightly sideways, and grabing traction all in the time of a heartbeat I spooled up instantly and caught up at 6K rpm, and by the time I shifted at 7.5K he was about two lenghts behind, third and he was a speck in my rearview...it was over.

He thought I had nothing under the hood, it was awesone....eventhough it was still too stock to be a match, it was a fun as hell race and the guy was equally cool too.

not bad for a slow night :smokin:

haha nice job man. :bigthumb:

You showed him!



Why was your transmission not letting you get into 2nd? It being a bitch?

Nice beat bro, When I get my tib hopfully they will have the subercharged V6 out that they have in their HDC concept's. EASILY AND I MEAN EASLY PUSH OVER 200 M.P.H.!!!! Oh yah forgot to mention the AWD I want them to put into it to!

I think you should've left it at "nice beat bro"

Sory for going on. Just wantd people to know what my Tib will be like when I get it!

I was talkin to the guy about his Tib, he wondered which way he should go, turbo or SC and I told him SC all the way, power across the powerband, and its several grand less.

HAs there been a twin turbo v6 tibby? Ive never heard of one. I suppose FWD traction wouldnt do too much good there

Nice kill :smile:



No car goes over 200mph easily - its takes one hell of a lot of engineering.

Someone has had to make a twin turbo tib. I have heard of a guy who put two 4 bangers in his tiberon. At a show he some how turned the rear engine around so first gear was going backwards for a burnout contest. He just ripped it until his tires gave up.

Good kill. What's the matter with your car that it won't shift to second. I hope to see you at Speedway.

Good kill man.. your car seems to have mass power. I'm excited to see the beast!

It's really late and it's been a long time since I've even thought about Tiburons, so bear with me here...

The V6 tib has a weak main cap. Well, the main cap bolts to be exact. At around 250-300 whp it likes to rip the bolts free from the block, taking the cap and the engine with it. The problem is in the block itself where the cap attaches to the block, it's not an easy fix. For most people, you can probably make more power reliably out of the 4 cylinder than the V6.

hey nice kill man! hope you fix the 2nd gear prob that sux.. i might be racing a tib also, this guy i know swears he know so much ish about cars and his tib. is so fast even tho its stock and 5sp (4clyd) so im gona race him and shut him up.. btw he going "turbo" so i asked him how big he replyed "stage 3".. haha this should be fun after he puts on his "turbo" ill raise my boost to 13psi and beat him again hahah
nice kill again
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I dont see the big hype with tiburons... :shrug: but I guess there's no accounting for taste either.

thats no fair you raced a basically stock tib, lol j/k good kill

Nice kill :smile:



No car goes over 200mph easily - its takes one hell of a lot of engineering.

the tiberon has some fancy aerodynamics but i agree with you the kid is a bit too hyper about a supercharged tiberon.

Nice race TV.

Yo mad tyte prawps dogz reppin' da hood.

j/k

Sounds like it was fun. Wish I was there to see it. And what the F is up with second gear? You know my tranny has a trashed second gear, o this is freakin' me out.

the kid must've meant making 200hp which by the way is nothing. but anyways~ the tiburon is a very nice looking car. and the interior actually seems to be built better then the celica GT-S's.

i had that happen to me before also racing a turbo charged civic hatch, my second gear would'nt work it took me 2 try's to get it in.

nice kill man, those t ibs look nice with certain bodykits, this chick has one up here and it looks sweet

my second gear would'nt work it took me 2 try's to get it in

Ahhhh the comforts of an auto. :smile:

Of course i raced a tib with the same mods and was at his bumper. I wonder if i could keep up with you.

Of course i raced a tib with the same mods and was at his bumper. I wonder if i could keep up with you.

if you were only at his bumper probally not for how I had a billion lengths on him...hell, even the UFO beat him bad that was chasing me.

My 2nd gear has been acting up more and more....I might have busted a syncro when I misshifted a while back...who knows

I also didnt mention i didnt launch properly, i shoulda had the tib a good length behind me. Oh and i may be going to the track on the 22 to get some times. If i can convince my mom.

I also didnt mention i didnt launch properly, i shoulda had the tib a good length behind me. Oh and i may be going to the track on the 22 to get some times. If i can convince my mom.

You have to be kidding me??? You have to be delusional. You think you're car can beat anything. With TVs list of mods he would eat your car like a light snack.

Whats tv's car run at the track?

Whats tv's car run at the track?

I'm not sure, but what are your mods?

ok, I didnt get it into second eather

and I beat him by roughly 9-14 lenghts :grinno:

its hard to tell when its a spec in your rear view....

You have to be kidding me??? You have to be delusional. You think you're car can beat anything. With TVs list of mods he would eat your car like a light snack.


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!! I FULLY FULLY AGREE!

I have an intake.

pwned.

um...what car do you drive again?

Cavalier 03 Ecotec. But then again you would kill me anywho (unless i was turbo or nitrous fed).

even then...but hell it would be a fun race :icon16:

TV for yoru tranny problem. you can probrably find a used KA24DE tranny and swap the bell housing. that is the only difference i believe. also the gear ratios are the same for the SR and for the KA tranny. so that would be a cheaper way of fixing it. but that is just from what i heard. you should look check up on it.

Nice beat bro, When I get my tib hopfully they will have the subercharged V6 out that they have in their HDC concept's. EASILY AND I MEAN EASLY PUSH OVER 200 M.P.H.!!!! Oh yah forgot to mention the AWD I want them to put into it to!

a v6 easily over 200 mph...I'll believe it when I see it....which btw, do you know of a website that has some info on it? I'm curious...

a v6 easily over 200 mph...I'll believe it when I see it....which btw, do you know of a website that has some info on it? I'm curious...
www.Bullshit.com
or try
www.Ricerdreams.com

lol good response

damn i was suprised that bullshit.com wasnt registered! wierd...

Haha funny guys, I know I heard it from somewhere. And a V6 can do 200 or more, like it was said on one of these post a WRX can do 150, and the supercharger in the Hyundai concept is a little more "supercharged" than the WRX.

try to find info somewhere.

General specifications
Country of origin South Korea
Produced in 2004
Introduced at 2004 NAIAS
Numbers built N/A
Body design N/A
Weight N/A

Drivetrain
Engine V6
Engine location Front, transversely mounted
Displacement 2.656 liter / 162.1 cu in
Valvetrain 4 valves/cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed Fuel injection
Aspiration Supercharger
Gearbox 6 Speed Manual
Drive Front wheel drive

Performance figures
Power N/A
BHP/Liter N/A
Torque N/A
Power to weight ratio N/A
Top Speed N/A
0-60 mph Acceleration N/A

Thers some info, not much I will try to find more later! Hyundai HDC-8.

and........so you think a supercharged tiberon can do 200mph because its a little more charged then the wrx?

check this out kid, a tiburon supercharged is most likely gona run you know faster than 160mph. a viper does not run 200mph a ferrari 575m does not run 200mph a cl55 amg does not run 200mph and niether does a lamborghini murcielago run 200mph. a supercharged tiburon will not and cannot run 200mph unless there is some serious hard work done to it besides a s/c

ok,ok got the point.

a v6 easily over 200 mph...I'll believe it when I see it....which btw, do you know of a website that has some info on it? I'm curious...

Easily no, but possible yes. A LeBaron has broken 200MPH, an SRT-4 has broken 200MPH, and a Saturn has broken 200MPH. Granted they're running on the Bonneville Salt Flats and they aren't stock, but they have more than just a super-charger under the hood.

Exactly...thats pretty much what I thought...a supercharged hyundai v6 probably isn't gonna make more than 370 max (and thats optimistic), unless that v6 has some hella work in it (a s/c v6 capable of 200+ won't cost less than 100 grand at the very minimum)....and do you have any idea how much HP is needed to break 200 mph??? I don't want to get into all the aerodynamic factors, but I'll just say that it'll need to be pushin 600rwhp to break 200 mph

there is a proven formula that i learned in school in engineering class that in order to double the speed, you need to increase the hp by eight times.


cliff notes. general formula for hp vs. speed.

2X speed you need 8X hp. so generally to go 200mph with a cf of drag of lets say .3 your goin to need around 600-700 hp. i doubt a hyundai will come with 600-700hp stock. in fact you can't even boost a supercharger to make that much boost to make that kind of power on a 2.6 liter engine. you need a big ass turbo with major lag to make those numbers. and automanufactureres will not make a turbo car with that much lag from the factory.

I think anything able to hit 200+ stock is labeled a supercar

I think anything able to hit 200+ stock is labeled a supercar

Nah, I wouldn't say anything.

Well, Most of the production vehicles that are completely able to go 200 mph without serious trouble can be considered supercars... mostly.

I think a 600 whp hyundai would blow up, break apart, and/or go kaplunk before it ever reached 200 mph

I think a 600 whp hyundai would blow up, break apart, and/or go kaplunk before it ever reached 200 mph

I think i'd pay $5 to watch that happen at the salt flats...if it included a coke :icon16:

but they have more than just a super-charger under the hood.


Ya.. a TURBO... hehehe

(a s/c v6 capable of 200+ won't cost less than 100 grand at the very minimum

Whoa hold on. Top speed is limited by power and drag. You can get to 200 mph by making a lot of power, very little drag, or a combo of the 2. Point being if you had an aerodynamic enough platform to put it in, even the stock Tiburon V6 will pull 200mph.

If anyone is actually interested enough, I can dig up the formula where you can put in the cD, frontal area, and the speed you want to get to (200 mph) and it will give you the required hp to pull it. In fact, if someone knew the cD and frontal area of the tiburon, we could actually get a pretty solid answer to this question, although I'm sure it will be around 700-800 hp.

thats pretty much what i said.

i have the equation in my other notebook in my parents house.

but its basically for 2X the speed, you need 8X the hp.

and yes i do know that the frontal area, and Cf of drag is involved in the equation. weight is not a factor in that formula (not sure, i haven't looked it for over a year).

I just like the aerodynamics of the chick with the nissan shirt :smokin:

and the Cf of her surface drag when she launches up, and goes back down :evillol:


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i'll be back...all this car talk is making me have to go to the bathroom :icon16:







j/k

(a s/c v6 capable of 200+ won't cost less than 100 grand at the very minimum

Whoa hold on. Top speed is limited by power and drag. You can get to 200 mph by making a lot of power, very little drag, or a combo of the 2. Point being if you had an aerodynamic enough platform to put it in, even the stock Tiburon V6 will pull 200mph.

If anyone is actually interested enough, I can dig up the formula where you can put in the cD, frontal area, and the speed you want to get to (200 mph) and it will give you the required hp to pull it. In fact, if someone knew the cD and frontal area of the tiburon, we could actually get a pretty solid answer to this question, although I'm sure it will be around 700-800 hp.

Yes, of course top speed is limited by power and drag...I think I mentioned that in a previous post. I wasn't saying that you have to have $100,000 in your hand to go 200+ mph; I was refering to the fact that every car I know that is capable of 200 mph costs more that 100 grand, due to the costs of R&D, and materials (body, engine, transmission) to accomadate the aerodynamics and power needed to reach that speed - speed costs money, and lots of speed costs lots of money.

As for the stock v6 Tib being able to get up to 200mph, in theory you are correct. However there will never be a car (for the street, and i doubt anywhere else) that has a low enough cD and frontal area to get to 200mph on the horsepower (181 I believe) that the stock v6 tib engine makes.

The V6 tib is a POS. I own one. I looked at a single turbo kit for $3500.00 and it only put down 220whp. I have decided to leave it alone. its black and the only thing done is I lowered it 2# and put bronze enkie's on it. The block is aluminum and will not make any power without pulling the bolts out of the crank caps. I have heard the 4 cyl arent to bad though. I hope that the tib will not be the next ricer car, or my next mod will be a FOR SALE sign. I hate all these kits that have slow ass cars and think they will beat anything. Every ricer should ride in a fast car and maybe they wont talk so much. BTW....selling the MR2 if anyone is interested. let me know. RYANB_PTOYOTA@HOTMAIL.COM

The V6 tib is a POS. I own one. I looked at a single turbo kit for $3500.00 and it only put down 220whp. I have decided to leave it alone. its black and the only thing done is I lowered it 2# and put bronze enkie's on it. The block is aluminum and will not make any power without pulling the bolts out of the crank caps. I have heard the 4 cyl arent to bad though. I hope that the tib will not be the next ricer car, or my next mod will be a FOR SALE sign. I hate all these kits that have slow ass cars and think they will beat anything. Every ricer should ride in a fast car and maybe they wont talk so much. BTW....selling the MR2 if anyone is interested. let me know. RYANB_PTOYOTA@HOTMAIL.COM


anger managment anyone? :grinno:

and whats so bad about aluminum blocks?

I know aluminum blocks can be great. The engine is lighter and still putting out a lot of power. Two great things!

anger managment anyone? :grinno:

and whats so bad about aluminum blocks?

This particular aluminum block is too soft and will rip the main cap bolts free from the block. See my post on page one

I meant aluminum blocks in general...lol

I was baiting a trap....sence he complained it has an aluminum block...wanted to see if he meant the tib's block, or Al in general

my aluminum block can support in upwards of 1000+ hp.

my aluminum block can support in upwards of 1000+ hp.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/cwm27.gif LMFAO

Even I won't claim that, and I guarantee you, the SR20DE is built a HELL of a lot stronger than your precious Ecotec...

my aluminum block can support in upwards of 1000+ hp.



Its that the space shuttle spec ecotec? :uhoh:

my aluminum block can support in upwards of 1000+ hp.


Uh Hi... were you absent the day God handed out brains?:sly:


Honestly, do you expect us to believe such a claim? You should know the crowd in here by now. You claim those numbers, you better back it up with proof... :disappoin

my aluminum block can support in upwards of 1000+ hp.
If we are going to start making crazy claims like this i just want to say my dad can beat up your dad.

Last time i check the ecotec seemed to fall to many a car that doesn't hold that much power.

keep in mind that the blocks in NHRA 300mph drag cars are aluminum, albeit purpose built.

so it's not the material, it's the quality of the build.
it's also the sleeves, the reinforcement for the threaded holes in the block, etc.

ecotec, are you claiming YOUR motor can make 1000hp just b/c the ecotec drag cars can?
do you realize that those motors are hand built, with a considerable amount of testing, and non-stock (non-ecotec, anyways, they use GM rods) parts?

did you know that anything over 275hp in a stock ecotec engine will snap rods?
hmm...

quick posting dumb shit.

pspspshhhfff

well yours handles 1000+ hp


but MINEhas 1000+hp!

and its made with melted Bolle tactical gogles for a block and has very strong rats gnawing and biting eachother for the crank! :sunglasse

OWNED!

Actually, the ecotec can make surprising numbers on stock parts. If I remember correctly, when GM was building their drag cavalier, they tested it. Just added nitrous untill something broke, replaced what broke, added more nitrous untill something else broke, etc. I think they made it to 300hp completely stock. I do believe the car stephanie reaves (sp?) drives still uses the stock block and makes somewhere around 6-700 hp. Keep in mind that the block is probably the only stock part on the whole car, but still. It's not the 1000hp that ECOT3C is claiming, but surprising from a pos shitbox like the cavalier.

What i was trying to say the stock block (exept for some sleves can support over 1000hp.

I was just making the claim that the aluminum block "on the tib" is its weak point. I am not knocking aluminum, I know its advantages it just takes way more money/engineering to make it work for you. Take the 3SGTE in the MR2, cast block. My friend made 700+ on the stock block, rods, crank. I was just letting anyone know who is going to consider getting a tiburon to get the 4 cyl as it has more potential. I also may have some "anger" issues, because I am hearing a lot of ricer stories having to do with the tiburon, and its one of those things that when you know the potential of something and people get so cocky about it you just ask yourself, why?

What i was trying to say the stock block (exept for some sleves can support over 1000hp.

I'll beleive that when I see it. I would love to see some proof of that.