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3000gtSL slightly modded vs 91-98 Mustang GT vs Camaro Z28


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3kgt8
05-04-2004, 03:39 AM
who would win?

CORE402
05-04-2004, 04:05 AM
Those mustangs are not quick they are about high 14s. What year of Camaro are you talking about? We are talking about a straight line right? Well, if you are talking about a real z28 like a 98+ your mitsubishi better be faster then its stock high 15s 1/4 mile. A LOT FASTER!

CORE402
05-04-2004, 04:07 AM
Oh by the way the Camaro wouldn't even break a sweat.

joebowlr21
05-04-2004, 04:39 AM
Gt mustangs running 14's....LOL.

Maybe with a decent amount of work into them like cam,headers,cobra head,cobra throttle body, etc...

3KSL95
05-04-2004, 09:25 AM
SL's RUN 15 flat -14.9 with a good driver stock so a 97 down stang is possible but those z28's or ss run... away...fast.

2000LS1Z28
05-04-2004, 09:32 AM
OK first off the Mustangs that you are quoting are way off time wise. The fox body was around since 84 I believe, and it ran into 1993. In 1993-1998 they had the same body style, but some different engines (5.0 briefly, massaged 5.0 Cobra, 4.6 SOHC, and the DOHC Cobra). If it is a 93-98 GT, it is relatively slow unless modded (Not ripping on you mustang guys, but stock at LACR and Speedway those cars are in almost everybody's rearview mirrors). With a stick and a really good driver they will see a 15 sec. flat 1/4 mile time (I'm not talking from mustang monthly where they use drag radials and remove the air silencer). What year of Camaro are you talking about? If it has the 305 motor blow him away, and tell him to stop investing money in that engine :p If it's a 350/346 you are gonna have some serious problems. You can always rely on driver error though. Those F bodies are hard to launch. Good luck, and keep us posted.

ZackKVtec
05-04-2004, 12:06 PM
i think that race would go Z28 -> Mustang GT -> SL

george bush
05-04-2004, 12:09 PM
fox bodies have been around since 83
and your mitsu would lose
sorely!

3kgt8
05-04-2004, 05:18 PM
hey you guys i think the Camaro will come in first and then the 3000gt and last the Mustang GT. if it was a new mustang gt then it would be a whole different story. thats what i think we'll see.

209 neon
05-04-2004, 05:32 PM
if the mustang was a 5.0 then I say mustang but if not then I say camaro

youngvr4
05-04-2004, 05:44 PM
i say camaro then mustang gt then 3kgt. depending on the year since we weren't informed properly.

and btw sl's are not known for running 15 flat, there normal time is more like 15.4. with a superb driver they can get 15 flat and even break into the 14's

Igovert500
05-04-2004, 07:25 PM
I'm with youngvr4 on this one, camero, then mustang, then SL. The mid 90s mustangs run lower times than the SL typically. Together it could be a drivers race, but typically the stang would take the SL.

banditkiller
05-04-2004, 09:44 PM
First, the fox body started in 1979, the 79-86 5.0's were pretty much dogs... An 87-93 5.0 5spd lx should see mid to low 14's....any year 87 or newer 350 z-28 will also be faster... seeing mid to low 14's...depending on the condition of the cars, so looks like the sl looses.

90Stangjc
05-04-2004, 10:00 PM
79-93 are fox-bodies. 94-98 are sn-95 chassis. 94-95 had 5.0L engines rated at 215 horsepower. 96-98 had 4.6L rated same, then had 225 in i think 98.
So, 91-93 GT times would be 14.5-14.8 mostly on 5-speeds.
the Z28 are 13.80's to 14.20's from 93-97 w/ the 6 speeds.
Dont know about the 3000.
P.S.- I wouldnt say TOO much about 86 GT mustangs being dogs. My friends turned a 14.30 once at the track with his, and it was stock except for exhaust (mufflers and cats).

2000LS1Z28
05-04-2004, 10:43 PM
oops my bad. I stand to be corrected. They were started in 1979 as stated previously. The fox bodied one's are pretty quick (Although I have a laundry list of kills on them w/ the LS1 and former Z28 :d ).

3kgt8
05-04-2004, 11:37 PM
91-98 mustang gts are slow . my cousin beats them all the time in his Probe Gt. i dont think they're fast and im pretty sure an SL could beat one. i saw a 3000gt beat a 95 GT by about 2-3 car lengths back in Feb. it was my friends Mustang. now the new GTs are pretty fast and they will beat the 3kgt except for the VR4.

3kgt8
05-04-2004, 11:59 PM
by the way here are the stats for both cars.

96 Mustang GT

Horsepower (210, etc.)215
Curb Weight 3,278
Torque (lbs-ft) 285@3500rpm
Doors (4 Door, etc.)2
Body Type (SUV, etc.)Coupe
Drivetrain (4WD, etc.)2WD
Engine Size (4.0 L, etc.)4.6L


96 3000GT Base Model

Horsepower (210, etc.)222
Curb Weight 3,252
Torque (lbs-ft) 205@4500rpm
Engine Size 3.0
Camshaft DOHC

youngvr4
05-05-2004, 02:37 AM
look at the stats you just posted, the stang gt has 80 lbs more tq then the 3kgt

3kgt8
05-05-2004, 08:50 PM
true, but then why is it that a Probe Gt can beat a Mustang GT and i know people with 3000gts who have beaten Mustangs. im just trying to say that it can be possilble for a 3000gt to beat a Mustang Gt. Remember that chic Nesryn i believe, she said she beat mustang Gts in her 95 Stock SL. "oh and by the way thanks for defending our car youngvr4."

tha_new_guy
05-05-2004, 09:07 PM
true, but then why is it that a Probe Gt can beat a Mustang GT and i know people with 3000gts who have beaten Mustangs. im just trying to say that it can be possilble for a 3000gt to beat a Mustang Gt. Remember that chic Nesryn i believe, she said she beat mustang Gts in her 95 Stock SL. "oh and by the way thanks for defending our car youngvr4."
:disappoin

Its possible for a VW Beetle to beat a Ferrari. Not stock for stock, but possible. In a well modded Probe GT, sure your friend can beat a Mustang GT. But stock for stock, a 3000GT SL probably won't beat a Mustang GT, except for driver error. The numbers just point toward the Mustang winning. It DOES have 80 more lb-ft of torque to compensate for 26 lb. weight difference...

Also, Youngvr4 is just pointing out the facts. So why defend the incorrect party?


Never thought I'd find myself defending Mustangs...

carrrnuttt
05-05-2004, 11:14 PM
My 1992 Sentra has beaten both a 3000GT SL, and stock 5.0 Mustangs. The Mustangs put up MUCH better fights.

Quit trying to re-imagine your car into something it isn't, man. Talk about what you can/cannot beat AFTER you've found out.

90Stangjc
05-05-2004, 11:35 PM
My 1992 Sentra has beaten both a 3000GT SL, and stock 5.0 Mustangs. The Mustangs put up MUCH better fights.

Quit trying to re-imagine your car into something it isn't, man. Talk about what you can/cannot beat AFTER you've found out.
Nice. That's a quick Sentra. What's done to it?

youngvr4
05-06-2004, 01:16 AM
i believe its stock.

3kgt8 its not about defending our cars its about truth, and i can bet you there are just as many mustang gt's saying they beat 3000gt's as there are 3kgts saying they beat mustangs. just as there are just as many 300z's saying they beat a vr4 as there are vr4's saying they beat 300z's. you can't go by that, go to a track and find out drive both cars and find out but your buddy against some stang driver that probably can't drive very well is not a good resource. i seen a civic hatch beat an sl, so what does that mean? nothing.

carrrnuttt
05-06-2004, 02:00 AM
Nice. That's a quick Sentra. What's done to it?

I have a generic cone filter, and timing advance. I guess you can count my non-functioning A/C compressor, so the belt's not running that anymore (BAD, in AZ :(). Basically stock.

My best run has been a 15.0 @ 99 on G-Tech with some tire-spin. G-Tech advises to take off about 4 mph to estimate your track mph, so maybe a 95 or so.

I love it, faded paint and everything. You should see the look on some of the ricer's faces around here that I kill. They NEVER believe my car's stock. Until I tell them to pop the hood, lol.

3kgt8
05-06-2004, 02:46 AM
15.0 ? you have a sentra? wow thats pretty good for a Sentra isn't it? by the way props on beating all those ricers. hopefully theyll learn that a car doesnt have to be just fixed from the outside.

3kgt8
05-06-2004, 02:48 AM
hey guys so what is the average 1/4 time for an SL? AND
0-60 time? people are starting to make me doubt that a stock SL is capable of running 14.9?

H22Insd
05-06-2004, 02:51 AM
true, but then why is it that a Probe Gt can beat a Mustang GT and i know people with 3000gts who have beaten Mustangs. im just trying to say that it can be possilble for a 3000gt to beat a Mustang Gt. Remember that chic Nesryn i believe, she said she beat mustang Gts in her 95 Stock SL. "oh and by the way thanks for defending our car youngvr4."


eiter way, 15% of horsepower is lost before it gets to the wheels.

H22Insd
05-06-2004, 02:52 AM
just because it says 210hp on ur stats, doesnt mean its gonna put that much agenst you.

jeffs_GTP_sleeper
05-06-2004, 03:04 AM
hey guys so what is the average 1/4 time for an SL? AND
0-60 time? people are starting to make me doubt that a stock SL is capable of running 14.9?

Isn't there a 3000GT forum somewhere that has timeslips from good drivers so you can see what the SL can do?

3kgt8
05-06-2004, 03:08 AM
hey gtp sleeper whats a good website to look for car stats?

youngvr4
05-06-2004, 05:16 AM
the average times for an sl are about 15.3
they vary from 15.6 to 14.9 good drivers factory freaks bad drivers car not running its best. these are all the things that will determine your time but as an average they run about 15.3 which is not bad at all.

funny thing is i seen a race between a sl with intake and exhaust and a sentra with intake and exhaust and the sentra won 7 out of 10 times.
possible the sentra was the better driver.

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