Best mud/road tire?


Suldat
04-22-2004, 12:28 PM
I was hoping that sombody had some good info on tires that proform well in mud and on the road, I don't care about any snow traction, sand traction, or rock climbing. All I want is somthing that grips mud and will live a long time on the road. I have heard that thornbirds hold up very well on the road and in the bogs, has anyone here had any experence with them or any other good tire. BTW I am more concerend with tire life than noise or comrort on the road.

goinbig
04-25-2004, 10:42 PM
Thornbird's are terrible in the mud. The lugs are not spaced out enough, which makes them just like an all-terrain tire. The only good part is the lugs on the sidewall, but that doesn't make them worth buying. If you drive on the road, I would suggest something like the BF Goodrich Mud Terrain. GoodYears version is good, but it is because the compound is soft, which makes them wear down fast on the road.

RiceHaterBoi
06-13-2004, 12:07 AM
Id say SuperSwamper TSL or TSL Thornbird. They come in a bunch of sizes and are great for lifted trucks. Right now I have an S10 ZR2 with 31" All-Terrain TA's They are great for the setup I have now. Once I put my lift on Im changing to SuperSwamper Thornbird 35's

Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience. :eek7:

goinbig
06-16-2004, 12:24 AM
The Thornbird's are pretty much an all-terrain tire. Not sure if you've ever tried them off road, but I have had better luck with all terrain tires then the thornbird. You might want to look into them a little more before you buy them.

The TSL's will not last long on the road at all. If the air pressure, allignment, and everything else is kept perfect (and they are on a light-weight vehicle) then they will last around 20,000 to 25,000 miles at best. However, they can easily last only 5,000 or less miles. Plus, they handle terribly on the road.

If you want a good on-road tire, never buy a Super Swamper!! They are excellent if you plan on driving in the mud most of the time, or have a shit load of money to keep buying more of them.

HDChvyTrk
07-04-2004, 07:01 PM
I would also stay away from any swampers for road use. They are heavy, hard to balance, wear quickly and unevenly when used on the road and have a tendency to flat spot. I would recommend the BFG mud terrains, I have had them on quite a few vehicles, The KM's, and have been very happy with there performance on and off the trail. They also live quite long if you take time to rotate and watch the air pressure. I have also heard good things about Goodyears MTR but have not owned any.

RiceHaterBoi
07-06-2004, 09:06 PM
Yea I like my BFG's I have currently they work pretty well on and offroad. I run @ alot of high speeds which I will probably stop after I lift my truck but my All-Terrain T/A'shave done really good. I can keep up w/ two of my friends pretty well, one in a newer camaro and one in a riced up civic (eww). Trey(camaro) has Firehawks and Talley(Ricer) has Yokohama's i think. and My friend had his saturn slidin through the turns on our road without even tryin, While I didnt even hear my tires squeak AND I was gaining on him through the EXACT same curve. LOL well I have some friends that are really good drivers and we have fun when were bored so yea. Ohh yea My top Speed Limiter kicks in @ 95 :mad:

Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience. :eek7:

2001BlackSES
08-27-2004, 10:39 AM
Can't go wrong with the BFG's for longevity, but the sidewalls are fairly thin and flexible, so if you put on a heavy vehicle expect alot of sidewall flex during turns. The bigger they are, the more this happens also. I had 35's on my 1 ton Ford 4x4 and there were issues, but the tread held up great.

JustinTaco97
10-11-2004, 11:50 PM
Let me tell you from experience, i've had swamper tsl's, bfgoodrich mt's and at's, firestone destinations, and wrangler mtr's even swamper boggers. you want a good pullin tire that rides good and pulls real good in the mud, go for either the swamper tsl radials or bfg MT. firestone has a great tire too. by the way the swamper thornbird is just for looks, i've had those on my tacoma too and they pull ok but not like a true mud tire. definitely go for the bfg's or the firestone destinations.

Andydg
10-15-2004, 12:24 AM
Most of my friends use BFG Mud Terrains...they seems pretty happy with them and all they do is road and mud.

bkite2186
10-17-2004, 11:08 PM
I agree with the general consensus here the bfg mt's are great.... another tire worth looking at is the bridgestone dueler mt.... granted they are not great with longevity but they pull like a mule

Z3PR
10-23-2004, 01:42 AM
I was hoping that sombody had some good info on tires that proform well in mud and on the road, I don't care about any snow traction, sand traction, or rock climbing. All I want is somthing that grips mud and will live a long time on the road. I have heard that thornbirds hold up very well on the road and in the bogs, has anyone here had any experence with them or any other good tire. BTW I am more concerend with tire life than noise or comrort on the road. Denman Ground Hawg 2's !!!!!! Best choice. Last longer then any other mud tire, and is one of the best tires money can buy for playin' in the mud.

goinbig
10-24-2004, 02:16 PM
I don't really like the traction that the Ground Hawgs provide in the mud. They last a long time---that's because their tread compound is very hard, which means less traction.

Andydg
11-27-2004, 08:37 PM
I imagine Ground Hawgs would give you a lot of road noise too right???

kenny-1907
12-06-2004, 08:43 PM
I may as well throw my vote in here , I say BFG MT KM's i have had these on my truck for a little over 2 years now and probable close to 40000 km's and i say there is probably right around half the tread left. They are great in mud , seem to be lasting fairly well on road as most of those 40000 were on pavement. But i will say they suck in icy conditions, like the guy said where i bought them , they are like a whale on ice

danny350
12-29-2004, 10:07 PM
BFG MT's

Smokee
03-30-2005, 01:13 AM
HAve a look at the Kelly Springfield Safari DTR's. Should pe perfect for what you need.

Andydg
03-30-2005, 11:12 PM
But i will say they suck in icy conditions, like the guy said where i bought them , they are like a whale on ice

That is very true those tires have a horrible time on ice, but with in 4hi or low they will get you moving.

J-Ri
04-04-2005, 02:01 AM
Any great offroad tire will do terrible on ice. They have big lugs which float over the ice and not much surface area, I have a buddy who says slicks will do better on ice that offroad tires (but he's always saying crazy things, never know what's based on something).

I too would have to say BFG M/Ts, or one with very similar tread. Mud Kings have almost identical tread, and are much cheaper, but I've heard they do bad on-road, and I think the biggest size they make is 31x11.5x15. Firestone also makes a similar tread pattern, but I don't know what it's called. I've got 2 of them in the back of my truck, I'll look tomorrow, and if I remember, I'll post the name here.

v10_viper
04-04-2005, 02:32 AM
Fireston Destination M/T
BFG M/T
Mickey T's are awesome and he's also got two brand new wheels this year
Baja Claw http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/mt_claw35bias/ no idea on what tread wear would be like. I do have a friend that has the Baja Belted HP's (35by12.5/17) and they throw mud like no other.
Toyo or Nitto tires

corbinwaterski
04-04-2005, 09:49 AM
Yokohoma Geolander M/T's are a very capable tire on-road and in the mud!!! Priced right too...

MikeAP
05-31-2005, 07:35 PM
Well Folks I would have to agree with most people on the BFG M/T's and the BFG A/T's. Both really impressive tires for on and off road Duty.. However, i just bought my Second set of Nitto Terra Grapplers, and i would reccomend these to everyone.. i got 45000 miles outta my first set of 33 inch Terras, and they pull hard in the mud and dirt.. Good luyck with the tires

ECVcrawltoy711
06-01-2005, 02:35 PM
its goin to be a compromise for what u are lookin for. there is no such thing as a great mud tire that is great on the highway. depedning what its goin on u can get 30k miles out of a swamper. you never said what its goin on. Like the bogger will be awesome in the mud and crappy on the road and a BFG will be great on the road and hardly decent in the mud. its all about compromise

Drew

BigF-250
09-11-2005, 11:58 PM
I have found that Yokohama Geolandar m/t's are very good in the mud, they are a little noisy on the road, but they wear pretty decent for a mud tire.

ECVcrawltoy711
09-17-2005, 01:08 AM
there is no such thing as a good road and mud tire one is good in the mud or good on the road. u want a good mud tire get a bogger u want a nice long lasting road tire get BFG ATs u was a decent road tire and a ok mud tire get something inbetween

ford builder
10-10-2005, 09:23 PM
Denman Ground Hawg 2's !!!!!! Best choice. Last longer then any other mud tire, and is one of the best tires money can buy for playin' in the mud.


Take a look at the Super Swamper SSR.I have a set on an 03 F-150 with 30,000 or so on them and they will last another 3000-5000.These tires are great on road from my experience.Snow,ice and rain can be scary on a set of mudders but these tires are the best I have ever had and I have had BFG,Dunlop,and Bridgestone M/T's.It is amazing how these tires perform on road and everyone knows the mud capabilties lol.

RootBreaker
02-01-2006, 07:42 AM
I don't really like the traction that the Ground Hawgs provide in the mud. They last a long time---that's because their tread compound is very hard, which means less traction.


have you owned a pair?
my bias hawgs are great...

hawgs are great in all conditions except for rocks.. yes the hard compound is not good for rocks....

hawg 2's are radial and are ok...
bias hawgs get out of round when they sit but 5 minutes down the road and they re-shape....

bias hawgs are the second best to boggers with the fact that they last 5x longer than boggers.....


I say
bias ply
hawgs
radial
Firestone Destinator MT's (got a friend of mine to buy and loves them)


p.s. glad hawgs are not good in mud


after pulling him out...
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/272663/fullsize/Dan13.jpg


http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/271798/fullsize/RootBreaker2.jpg

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/272650/fullsize/RootBreaker13.jpg

broncos & mastiffs
11-01-2007, 11:16 PM
I have been selling most of the tires that are talked about on here except for the ground hawgs. I have ran most of them on my trucks including the ground hawgs. I would strongly suggest the ground hawgs over all others for everything except rock crawling. They do great in mud, there directional tread does really good in sand, and the agressive tread does good in snow. The wear on the road is the best bar none. I have a set of 38.5 15 15 bias ply ground hawgs with 50,000 miles and they still have 10-11/32 tread left. The noise is there but nowhere as bad as super swampers or the bfg mt or other convetional mt's.

Jake Lee
02-23-2010, 09:20 PM
ok, so i love my kelly safari dtr's but one of my tires is now toast. im looking for a new one, but cant find one anywhere. or even i price for one.
demensions 33x12.50r15LT
any help anyone?

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