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Prelude Vs. Integra Vs. Probe Vs. Fiero


LacrosseGuy
04-21-2004, 02:15 PM
Ok guys street race. Integra GSR vs. Prelude SH/SI vs. Probe GT(93+) vs. Fiero GT(85+) all cars are stock all are 5spd manual excpt the 85-87 Fiero being that its a 4spd. Weather conditons are normal and were at sea level. Have fun.


LacrosseGuy

Partizan
04-21-2004, 07:33 PM
I would think that the GSR would take it but it depends what the distance is because the Prelude has a good top end. I'm not really in the know with the Probe GT and Fiero so I may be wrong.

freakonaleash1187
04-21-2004, 10:13 PM
i would think the prelude would be in front, then the gsr or the probe, then the fiero would break down off the line.

LacrosseGuy
04-21-2004, 11:46 PM
lol break down off the line... lets just say that for some reason some one parked this thing in a time machine and we have a brand new Fiero. Ill post the specs on the cars that way we can have a little better of a comparison going

del
04-22-2004, 12:01 AM
i say the gsr would get the jump off the line, and as long as the prelude driver knows how to drive, the prelude will slowly, very slowly, pull on the gsr and in the end come out the winner by a slim margin. i've seen it happen numerous times. the lude just has more go once it starts rolling but thanks to the weight advantage, the gsr gets it off the line and can very well win in a race against the prelude. i would say out of those listed, the prelude wins. though i may have a slight bias as a former prelude SH owner myself. :p

nbw
04-22-2004, 01:14 AM
not sure who would all out win the race but I believe the fiero would jump off the line quicker since it's an midengine rear wheel drive. Plus the engine has good ammount of low end torque for a crappy little engine...
(this a v6 or i4 in the fiero? i dont know how much hp the i4 makes but it isnt much:p)
I will guess the GSR will end up winning.

Filthy Sanchez
04-22-2004, 06:03 AM
If they are all stock and not modded, I don't know who'd win but I'd take the Fiero 1st choice (rear drive, FWD SUCKS!!!) and the Probe second only because my aunt worked the assembly line in Flat Rock MI.

Janet Reno
04-23-2004, 01:03 AM
I think the fourth generation Preludes are the best acceleration wise. 3800 pounds, similar engine. 5th gen models go up by over 100 pounds, SH models tip the scales at 3042lbs! I'm not saying I know a huge amount about cars, but 240 pounds will make a difference won't it?

del
04-23-2004, 09:58 AM
I think the fourth generation Preludes are the best acceleration wise. 3800 pounds, similar engine. 5th gen models go up by over 100 pounds, SH models tip the scales at 3042lbs! I'm not saying I know a huge amount about cars, but 240 pounds will make a difference won't it?

i think you meant to say 2800 lbs, not 3800. :p anyway, yeah, the 4th gen vtecs are the quickest preludes available on this side of the globe. honda stiffened the chassy, lengthened and widened the prelude going into the 5th gens so that's where the added weight comes from. but towards the later years of the 5th gen, the hp creeped up by 10 to 200hp. that helped somewhat, not much. 5th gens do have longer gearing and have better top speed but acceleration-wise, the 4th gen has an advantage.

xXRyCe_R0CkEtXx
04-23-2004, 10:54 AM
prelude will win ^_^

MR2Driver
08-27-2004, 08:18 AM
I dont care which would win, probably the GS-R just on numbers, but I'd still prefer the Fiero, and drop a LS1 into it :0)

youngvr4
08-28-2004, 02:01 AM
thats what i'm talkin bout

freakonaleash1187
08-28-2004, 06:44 PM
mmmmm, fiero with an ls1. there are two of them here in kc and oh damn are they awesome.

NISSANSPDR
08-30-2004, 11:28 PM
GSR...then Prelude...none of the others

ProjectPhantom
08-31-2004, 12:57 AM
mhhhmmmmhhhh... damn right its the prelude thats gonna whoop ass! this thread is probably totally biased...

youngvr4
08-31-2004, 01:50 PM
fiero gt 140hp 170lbs tq
wich weighs 2500lbs v6 rwd.

mid 15's in the 1/4 mile. whats that prelude doin ya?

Crippy
09-01-2004, 10:41 PM
Prelude and GSR both roll in times of about 15 flat bone stock ... ive heard of peeps hitting 14.8-9's with both cars tho ... add some better tires and a few bolt ons and they are easily in the high to mid 14 's ...

pimprolla112
09-01-2004, 11:11 PM
Fuck the fiero Fuck the probe its between the hondas, yeah know its acura its the same damn thing, and yeah to the weight thing 240 can determine a win or a loss. once the vtec kicks in the other cars are fucked. honda makes some kick ass cars. probes are shitty and fieros are just horrible. id go for the lude with a h22 dohc vtec.

Layla's Keeper
09-01-2004, 11:35 PM
Oooh, you're a smart one.

Consider this your warning, pimprolla112, either use some more genial expressions and some facts to come up with your post or you won't be allowed to post. Comprende?

pimprolla112
09-02-2004, 05:51 PM
Sorry for offending you layla but i actually have seen a race between these cars all had bolt ons exhaust, intakes and such but in the end the probe coudlnt keep up and the fiero was dead last. all the cars were from around the same years a 91 gsr, 92 prelude si with h22, porbe gt, and a fiero it was v6 but i cant remember if it was gt or not. The gsr won but that was after getting into 5th gear otherwise the prelude was in the lead the whole time. Got a problem with hondas fuck off.

youngvr4
09-02-2004, 07:03 PM
it bieng gt or not has a whole lot to do with it 4 cyl versus 6, weight power and more

kman10587
09-02-2004, 10:52 PM
The gsr won but that was after getting into 5th gear otherwise the prelude was in the lead the whole time.

Um, 5th gear is an overdrive gear, unless he put some REALLY short gears in there...your whole story kinda sounds like you made it up just to back up your point.

pimprolla112
09-02-2004, 11:23 PM
I know it was a v6 fiero it was pretty abused so that might have something to do with i know they can be fast i just dont like them. about the gsr he did put a new tranny in it he pretty much destroyed the orginal one at the track one night. i know it was a racing trans with a shift kit. And if anyone wants any parts from a 92 prelude si email me at hammerhead112@hotmail.com the guy who had it ran into a light pole in a parking lot, ill see what he has left of it. And the guy with the probe blew the motor about 3 weeks ago. il ask the guy with the gsr what trans he put into it.

youngvr4
09-02-2004, 11:45 PM
sounds like your people don't know what there doing
blowing engine's and running into light poles

pimprolla112
09-03-2004, 05:09 PM
Yeah they drive like a bunch of dumbasses, the probe now has a v6 from a mazda mx6. the lude is just a really long story. but the gsr did come out in front. by the way nice mitsu i wish people around here knew how to make a good import they either look nice and have no power or look like shit and have a lot of power, there are very few good looking imports with lots of power down here. but whenever there not racing they drive like idiots.

kman10587
09-03-2004, 05:55 PM
the probe now has a v6 from a mazda mx6.

Um...the Probe comes with a V6, and it's not from Mazda, it's Ford's 2.5 Duratec V6 engine.

pimprolla112
09-03-2004, 06:21 PM
yeah i said it now has a v6 from a mazda mx6 he blew the orginal. its one of few good looking domestic ricers.

kman10587
09-03-2004, 07:00 PM
You used "good looking" and "ricers" in the same sentence haha :P

pimprolla112
09-06-2004, 12:32 AM
im guessing you dont like imports but ive seen plenty of domestics get destroyed by imports, saw a 11 sec hatchback civic kill a mustang it was a beautiful display of 4 banger power to the pushrod v-8. it was metalic green with a b-18 turbocharged and intercooled running i think it was 21 lbs of boost. the motor was heavily moded. and my friend has a 1st gen crx with the same setup running 28lbs of boost hes a fucking honda guru

kman10587
09-06-2004, 01:33 AM
You'd be guessing wrong. I like imports, but I don't think anyone likes riced out Hondas (except the people who rice them out). I have plenty of appreciation for good imports like the Supra, Fairlady Z, Lancer Evolution, RX-7, and STi.

pimprolla112
09-06-2004, 11:23 PM
im glad there someone with some sense i havent heard anyone even mention a fairlady in like 2 years, even though all the good imports cost over 25 thou around here there is maybe 1 or 2 newer gen rx7 there maybe 10 evos and supra there like 3 now 2 cause my friend hydro planed and hit a tree in his. but down here the best imports are mostly the shit hondas. i can see how no one likes riced out hondas, or anything with a fart can for that matter. and i didnt meen ricers i was talking about a somewhat decent moded honda with some good aerodynamics turbo and a jspec not some shitty american body kit.

kman10587
09-07-2004, 12:04 AM
A FWD economy car does not define a good import when it comes to performance, no matter how tuned up it is.

MR2Driver
09-07-2004, 04:24 PM
Agreed, but did I hear someone say that a GS-R and Prelude VTEC run 15 flat stock in the 1/4

Wow, the honda camp is getting more and more dellusional.

GritMaster
09-07-2004, 06:07 PM
A 2000 GS-R runs a 15.6 stock according to a Road n' Track test
A SH Prelude runs a 15.8
Yeah they run 15's alright, mid to high 15's


Okay did some research on stock cars, Found some results
the quickest quarter in a stock GS-R i found was a 1993, it ran a 15.2
The high 14's they supposedly run are probbly from an Integra TYPE R (not gsr) it can run a 14.7.

Now then On to the Prelude
THE Fastest stock prelude I found was a 94/95 Prelude VTEC it ran a 15.1 (BUT A VTEC PRELUDE WASNT THE OPTION, SH/SI)
1992 Prelude SI 4WS runs a 15.9

To the Ford!
1994 Probe GT runs a 15.7

Fiero anyone?
1988 Pontiac Fiero Formula 16.0

All times were taken from an unbiased site. I doubt they're all the fastest possible, but finding them all unbiased on the same place is a tricky feat, The site also lists around 400 other cars.
All Cars are stock.

Cars to beat.

1992 VW Corrado SLC 15.3
2004 VW Gti 1.8t 15.2
1995 Volvo 850 T5-R 15.0
1988 MR2 S/C 15.0
1988 Toyota Celica Alltrac 15.6
1992 Subaru SVX 15.5
1995 Saab Turbo Coupe 15.2
1988 Porsche 944 turbo 15.1
1991 Pontiac Firebird T/A conv. 15.4
1990 Plymouth Laser Turbo 15.4
1995 Nissan Maxima SE 15.2
2002 Nissan Sentra SE-R 15.4
1990 Nissan 300ZX 15.5
1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 15.6
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T 15.0
1997 Mercedes SLK230 15.2
1999 Mercedes C230 Komp. 15.7
1987 Mazda RX-7 Turbo 15.2
1991 Lotus Elan SE 15.2
1995 Lexus SC400 15.2
1999 Honda Civic Si 15.7 (only civic i could find in the 15's.... :P)
1994 Ford Mustang GT 15.1
1987 Ford Mustang GT 15.3
1986 Ferrari Mondial 3.2 15.3
1974 Ferrari Dino 15.5
1995 Eagle Talon TSi 15.1
1991 Dodge Stealth ES 15.6
1995 Chevrolet Monte Carlo Z34 15.5
1994 Chevrolet Impala SS 15.4
1980 Chevrolet Corvette L82 15.4
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z L98 15.3
1993 Cadillac STS 15.4
1988 BMW M3 15.4
1993 BMW 740i 15.3
1999 BMW 328i 15.2
1991 Audi Quattro 15.4
2002 Acura 3.2CL Type S 15.0

With your intake, bodykits, gauge pods, and stickers you should be able to beat any of these cars, Happy hunting.

kman10587
09-07-2004, 10:38 PM
With your intake, bodykits, gauge pods, and stickers you should be able to beat any of these cars, Happy hunting.

Please tell me that was a joke line...and there are too many variables to say with any degree of certainty who is gonna win this race. What you are doing is called "magazine racing", and it's not cool :)

GritMaster
09-07-2004, 10:47 PM
Yeah it was a joke.

And you may refer to it as mag racing if you like, but then again... anyone have all of these cars so we can go out and test them? if not lets go buy them (I mean c'mon you could prolly pick them all up for under 20 large)
The site is a compilation of quarter mile times submitted by individuals with backed up proof, also some is, yes, gotten from magazines, then again who do you trust more, a magazine or Paul Walker saying his Civic runs a 12 stock.

Btw I despise hondas, even more than i despise ricers :P, actually I don't despise them I just enjoy laughing at them. but given the facts I think the honda might win, according to the results there a 15.2 will beat a 15.7.... don't you think?
I also don't trust anyone's quarter mile times because I seriously doubt theres a honda out their without an intake or some other modification, well not one that was driven by someone under 40 anyhow.

My vote goes for the GS-R

kman10587
09-08-2004, 01:02 AM
I'm just saying that you can't really say "this car will win, followed by this car then this car then this car". You can say who is most likely to win, but even that's hard because all of these cars are so close. I think I'd give a slight nod to the Probe GT, but it's really a tough call. The Integra GS-R and Prelude Type SH (which is the same as the Prelude VTEC, only newer and heavier and slightly more powerful) are more or less tied. The Fiero would bring up the rear. But again, it's close enough that the drivers are more than likely gonna decide this race.

Crippy
09-08-2004, 02:03 PM
GritMaster , i had a freind with only a set of 16' rims on his BONE STOCK gsr run consistant 14.9 at the gainsville track ... thats what made me sway towards a gsr my self ... yall need to quit all this " i hate Honda " shit and realize that they can compete with anything in their class !! your being sterotypical because youve prolly had your ass handed to you by a civic before , and now your just bitter ... i would much rather take a time given from someone that actually has one of those cars , than one submitted by some magazine in which the driver didnt even launch the car ... and LACHEAN , if you ever come to Florida , you will see MANY STOCK GS-R's and Preludes running 15 flat with just better tires , i garuntee it !!

CrzyMR2T
09-08-2004, 03:04 PM
i wouldnt doubt that the gsr is capable of 15 flat, but i bet its not that common, what yr gsr are you talking about? ive seen a 94 gsr run high 14s all day with just IHE though.

ive also seen a probe gt run a 15 flat with just IHE.

GritMaster
09-08-2004, 06:44 PM
To quote myself

"All times were taken from an unbiased site. I doubt they're all the fastest possible"
I know they aren't the fastest possible, but if theyve all been tested by experienced drivers I imagine they're going to be withing .5 secs either way of the best time, don't you?

I still think the GS-R has the definate edge.

kman10587
09-08-2004, 09:14 PM
I dunno, bone stock maybe, the the 2.5 Duratec V6 in the Probe GT has some good potential. Look at the Noble M12, twin turbo Duratec V6 making crazy power :P

GritMaster
09-08-2004, 10:20 PM
True, But it doesn't count as a stock car :P
However.... might be nice to stick that in probe :P

LXDSMXL
09-10-2004, 02:58 PM
I'v Seen A Seen A Similar Race But, No Probe Or Fiero,
The Race Was 95 Prelude Si Vtech Vs. Gsr Intergra (not Sure What Year) A Mr2 (not Sure If It Was Super Charged)
The Mr2 Had A Jump At Start But, At The End The Prelude Came On Top With The Integra Right After

6dmnbag
09-14-2004, 07:01 PM
I've seen a race between a 00 gsr and a 94 sh prelude and a probe gt(i dont know what year,didnt ask) but there was no fiero. the gsr had a slight lead but in the end the sh won.

LXDSMXL
09-15-2004, 01:59 PM
It Had To Be A Si,

youngvr4
09-15-2004, 02:55 PM
gritmaster, magazines were running the corvette Z06 at 12.8
all the sudden somone comes along that really know how to drive and runs a 12.4
bigg diff, and people have outrun mag times all the time and some have run times a whole lot slower than mag times also. so its really hard to go by mags, as 3 diff mags will give you 3 diff times

kman10587
09-15-2004, 05:55 PM
Very true. Car and Driver ran a 2003 Evo 8 in 13.6 seconds. People have gotten them as low as 13 flat bone stock. They ran the LS1 Camaro at 13.5; it's been in the high 12's a couple of times. Magazine racing is not a reliable way to compare cars at all, since so much comes down to the driver. If the Fiero driver in this race was good enough, I bet he could smoke all three cars (unless they had bad-ass drivers as well).

youngvr4
09-15-2004, 06:10 PM
i usually take the time of a few mags and take the average of the 3 and go from there. also going to the track every once in a while helps

kman10587
09-15-2004, 06:16 PM
Yeah, although most of the time the cars at the track aren't stock. Still, you can see what most of the cars in your area are running, and that's more useful knowledge.

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