im talking about the best of the best version of the gtr r 34 the nur spec i think fatsest gtr to cum out of the nissan factory (apart from the 400R :smile:

skyline 1/4 mile - 12.4
F360 1/4 mile - 12.3

i jus don't know about the track so what do you think will win on the track and don't just say ferrari cause u THINK its faster shows us sum proof.

the f-360 modena or spider can't get a time of 12.3 so i am assuming you are taking the challenge stradale against the skyline. the challenge stradale is a track car that is made for the road. so the challenge stradale will kill the skyline on the track. if you want a couple stats, here they are:
slalom 360=>72.7mph skyline=>68.1mph
skidpad 360=>.95g skyling=>.89g

The Ferrari, especially if it's a Stradale. The MR layout gives it a more optimal set-up for cornering than the GTR and I rate Ferraris F1 expertise over Nissans motorsport expertise.

btw: The 400R left the Nissan factory as a bog-standard GTR. Nismo tuned the 400-odd cars to make the 400R. It's kind of like HSV's in a way.

Depends, if one is looking from a budget point of view. If you want the most bang for the buck and can't afford to spend mass amounts of money I would say Skyline but just comparison I would say the 360 takes it. I mean ferrari was never a drag racing company. It's all about the track and the Skyline wouldn't stand a chance against it. Plus just the flair of the 360.

Best Motoring took a R34 GTR V-Spec 2, EVO VIII RS, NSX TYPE S Zero, C5 Corvett (not ZO6), Porche 911 Turbo, and a 360 modena Stratadale and raced them on a race track. The 911 Turbo (1st), GTR (2nd), and EVO (3rd), raped everything else by atleast 2 seconds including the Ferrari 360.

Then they took the 911 Turbo, 360 Modena, and R34 GTR Nismo R Tune and raced them. The Porche won only because the GTR had a bad start and was getting blocked by the 360. Once he got pass the 360 he left it in the dust, and was right up on the Porches ass. The Drift King (Porche Driver) admited that the GTR would of destroyed them both if he had gotten off to a better start.

So it looks like a GTR would win around a race track.

The Modena is a daunting car to take to the limit in stock form- I can only imagine that it'd be scarier in a Stradale. There are many variables to take into account in the form of different drivers having varying skill levels, the same driver is needed in every car to make it comparison worthy. Sorry.

Yes the Ferrari is beautiful and I guess you can all quote what you want but I like the Skyline in this one.

I don't know that much about the performance of Skyline, but looks ae just as decisive: Ferrari!!!

Pussy Factor: more pussy, it's a Ferari!!!!

.89G on the skidpad? Im sure the GT-R handles better than that, where'd you get those #'s?

Pussy Factor: more pussy, it's a Ferari!!!!


LOL so true......Nuff said.

.89G on the skidpad? Im sure the GT-R handles better than that, where'd you get those #'s?

i found them at fast-autos.net. that website is always close to the correct stats. but i have also heard that the skyline is nose-heavy, so that would slow it down some.

the stock r34 gt-r pulls .88.

i'm sure the nur spec 400r would pull a bit more than that...

skyline in this case, unless you're talking about something other than a street 360

I thought a skyline could pull close to a 1.0g, but I think I read that in the Skyline forum

Question: 2 sets of keys are laying on the table. One says "Ferrari". The other says "Nissan". Which set would you pick up?



I rest my case.

Question: 2 sets of keys are laying on the table. One says "Ferrari". The other says "Nissan". Which set would you pick up?



I rest my case.

very well put.

that's the point i was tryin to make... you roll up on some Hos, one guy in a nissan, the other in a Ferrari, who they leavin with?

that's the point i was tryin to make... you roll up on some Hos, one guy in a nissan, the other in a Ferrari, who they leavin with?


Well the hottie leave with the guy in the Ferrari, the young asian guys all gather around the Nissan with hard-ons and talk about how it's "The greatest car ever mang!"

True, it has it's advantage, but I'd prefer the Ferrari effect.

Question: 2 sets of keys are laying on the table. One says "Ferrari". The other says "Nissan". Which set would you pick up?



I rest my case.

u could go ahead an rest ur case all u want.....thats not the question tho... if one said skyline an one said f360... then i would definately pick the skyline in a heartbeat.

u could go ahead an rest ur case all u want.....thats not the question tho... if one said skyline an one said f360... then i would definately pick the skyline in a heartbeat.

That's because you're the kind of person who types "u" instead of you and "ur" instead of your... and "tho" instead of though, and uses AlTeRnAtInG caps in your name :uhoh:

u could go ahead an rest ur case all u want.....thats not the question tho... if one said skyline an one said f360... then i would definately pick the skyline in a heartbeat.

Like I said all the hotties would ride off with the guy in Ferrari, and guys like you would gather around the Skyline sporting wood. Do you read the other posts? Hey I like the Skyline to. It just seems guys like you hear the word Skyline or Supra and think it's all over nothing can beat it. Wait a minute your one of those idiots who wrote The Fast and the Furious aren't you!!?? I knew it! Time for a beat down. Jst kiddin brotha you can drive the Skyline if you want nobody said you had to take the Ferrari.

How come you never see any skylines in peoples driveways on MTV cribs??

u could go ahead an rest ur case all u want.....thats not the question tho... if one said skyline an one said f360... then i would definately pick the skyline in a heartbeat.
Even if it was a 1989 Skyline GXi Auto? Or as a matter of fact any other Skyline aside from a GTR???


Sorry to tell you this, but take away the GTR and the Skyline range is very mediocre indeed. Which is another reason I would run away from a GTR; you'd be surrounded by idiot kids going "aw boe go da skylinez aw, dey iz phat, do a phat skud boe, drop it on twentiez cuz" Add to that, even the lowest 360 is exclusive and rare- whereas there is a whole mediocre range of cars below the GTR.

|delaysion|- :lol:

Even if it was a 1989 Skyline GXi Auto? Or as a matter of fact any other Skyline aside from a GTR???


Sorry to tell you this, but take away the GTR and the Skyline range is very mediocre indeed. Which is another reason I would run away from a GTR; you'd be surrounded by idiot kids going "aw boe go da skylinez aw, dey iz phat, do a phat skud boe, drop it on twentiez cuz" Add to that, even the lowest 360 is exclusive and rare- whereas there is a whole mediocre range of cars below the GTR.

|delaysion|- :lol:
i dont know what yall people are talkin about. i see your mean powerfull 360's parked outside of galleria waiting to be rented by any dumbass who has money! people even drive them as daily drivers! how may skylines are in houston tx? nonE! how many are in your town?? even though its not a GT-R, it doesnt matter, thats not the comparison! the comparison is a GT-R Spec-V II. i would even take a RWD RB25DET powered skyline over the ferrari. i bet yall haters are some of those guys who go whatch 2F2F and think yall know alot cause yall know the egnine code! few cars have goten close to the Skyline GT-R's AWD system. so i guess all just comes down to this.. sometimes you just gotta look in deeper than the name.. Spec-V II GT-R takes my vote. look back at 1989.. what was the car of the time? yep...GT-R skyline..

Listen, here's the cold hard facts.

I lived in New Zealand for 27 years, in New Zealand, like Japan, they drive on the left hand side of the road, from 1998 on there were no import tariffs on cars of any form in NZ. As a consequence about 60% of the cars on the road there are second-hand imports from Japan or Singapore, among these were Skylines of every designation of every model.

I have driven GTR's, brilliant cars; wrong badges.

I have also driven everything else in the R32, R33 and R34 from the GXi to GTS to the GTS4 to the GTS25t. The RB25DET models have a good engine, but the steering has no feel whatsoever, while the car is heavy and the handling is resiment of a big British or, dare I say, Australian car from the 1970's, while the interior, even in the 4 door models has nothing in the way of space.


You on the other hand haven't been in a Skyline of any designation, you say so yourself, you don't know the harsh reality that without the GTR, the Skyline is just another mediocre 3 series wannabe in an already crowded market place.

I'd say I know enough, don't you think??

Would you still take an RB25DET powered Skyline over a 360 Modena???

And 1989, are you mad??? The Ferrari F40 was the car of the time, still the only car in production that could crack 200 mph.

Question: 2 sets of keys are laying on the table. One says "Ferrari". The other says "Nissan". Which set would you pick up?



I rest my case.


i'd take the nissan to be diffrent cause i no everyone else would be getting the fezza. maybe wen im old an can aford it then i'll go with the ferrari cause on the road its just a car like everytihng else. you would want a freindly car that yopu can drive everyday (aka 355) an the gtr is prety comfortable (i've been in a 32 gtr an the buckets feel as if they where made to suit u) and btw the times i posted at the start were for a normal modena (done on best motoring vs a prosche which did a 12.2 )

back when the r32 was out NOTHING got close an who said the f40 was the car .... thats like super car man diffrent thing the f360 isn't even as good as the f40. when the gtr roled onto the track people noticed because it kept on winning and it as hated in aus because it kept on killoing the Competition and so on. to who ever said sumthing about the gtr's attesa awd system to me the best 4wd for me would go between the prosche 959 and the evo 6.

If you want to go by cars that came out in 1989, then the GTR still isn't the car of that year. Being probably one of the only respondants to this thread over 13 years old back in 1989, I can reassure you that no car kicked up as much fuss as the Honda NSX that year, the Skyline was relatively unknown outside of Japan at the time. In fact it wasn't until 1998, with the release of Gran Turismo that those outside of Japan started taking an active interest in Skylines (Except in Australia/NZ where they were used as touring cars).


While the NSX chased Ferrari back to the drawing board.......

If you want to go by cars that came out in 1989, then the GTR still isn't the car of that year. Being probably one of the only respondants to this thread over 13 years old back in 1989, I can reassure you that no car kicked up as much fuss as the Honda NSX that year, the Skyline was relatively unknown outside of Japan at the time. In fact it wasn't until 1998, with the release of Gran Turismo that those outside of Japan started taking an active interest in Skylines (Except in Australia/NZ where they were used as touring cars).


While the NSX chased Ferrari back to the drawing board.......


i know the nsx was a good car for its time but on the track it didn't last with the r32. but don't get me wrong i love nsx's their a great car and now the nsx-r is even better. but the nsx was realy terible to handle at top end speed, but most ppl bought one as investment (for eg honda australia only sold 5 nsx's last yr) too expensiv 200k for a honda turns alot of ppl off

it didn't last?
really?

do you have documented proof that an nsx wasn't running with a skyline on the track?

i agree with jimster here... (and i know that's a rarity...)

but...

how many people have a skyline on MTV crips...
paul walker has owned 2 already...

but it's not an escalade, so they don't care much...

i've given my opinion, wait, no i haven't.

for the modability of the car, skyline.

if it's stock, skyline (#'s are really close in performance, the 360 may handle better, but...)

if you look at the upkeep on one of those f cars, i think i can rest my case...

i'll take it, but not the bill for fixing it..

Paul Walker??? LOL come on, the STAR of Rice... Fast and The Furious and the sequel. I was pointing out all the rest with the Real money don't waste their time importing and legalizing a Nissan Skyline, they just drop the Cash on a Lotus, Ferrari, Maseratti, Lamborgini, whatever.

some of yall say "whitout the GT-R skyline is nothin.." do yall think were worried..? there is a GT-R! nuff said! and those of you bringin up other cars..WTF? there wasnt even a NSX back in 1989! the closest japanese car to the GT-R skyline was the brotha Fairlady Z. NSX is also a common car everyone has over here. they look good..and they are also fast. Im only 16 and ive never driven a skyline, or a NSX. im just one those kids who get on the skyline's D!*k and im not geting off of it! the RB26 is a engine everyone(who actually knows something) will respect. im not trying to look smart, but theres some of yall in here who dont even know crap about the skyline and say a ferrari is better. i bet you anything if you had both of them in person, you will be more interested in checkin out the skyline. oh. one more thing, why do you think they have Skyline cop-cars in japan? cause they suck? naw, dont think so.

so wait, b/c paul walker was in the movie, he's not a celebrity, and doesn't own an r34 w/ a full tomei race motor?

so instead of that, it's ok to show silly beetle convertibles with 20's on them, but it's stupid to show a skyline?

or you can buy a lotus over a skyline?

you're a serious import hater.

Everyone trashes Paul Walker because its trendy in the import scene to bash on FnF. But have you guys ever heard the man speak? He really does seem like a nice guy and a good person, get your heads out of you asses...

If I were offered enough money to buy drive and race all my dream cars, you'd better believe I'd sell out in a heartbeat. Like i'd care what some people on online forums think?

Man, I'm sorry, you are misunderstanding me, of course the STAR of F&F is gonna have the Most Fast, Most Furious car, the Skyline (at least to the crowd the movie was marketed to) but Y do the countless other Celebs have Ferraris and other exotics when it'd be cheaper to import and legalize a Skyline, uh, becasue they name of those cars speaks for itself.

NSX is also a common car everyone has over here.

:eek7:

I've seen almost as many Skylines in real life as I have NSX's. I've seen more of BOTH than I have 360's.

i bet you anything if you had both of them in person, you will be more interested in checkin out the skyline.

I'll take you up on that bet, since I really have seen both in person. Have YOU ever actually seen a Skyline in real life? It's nothing special to look at. The general public would probably think it was some kind of fixed up Maxima. The 360 on the other hand, you can just stand 10 feet back and get wood. Park both next to each other, and 95% of car enthusiasts and 110% of the general public are gonna be drooling over the Ferrari, while the Skyline guy is gonna be standing off to the side going "Hey guys, my car's cool too! Really!"

why do you think they have Skyline cop-cars in japan? cause they suck? naw, dont think so.

This is completely asinine reasoning

1. Where did anyone say the Skyline sucked?

2. Do you think Crown Victorias are awesome cars too? Cuz they use those for cop cars here. What about Caprices? Would you take a Caprice over a 360 cuz they use them for cop cars?

3. How bout those little goofy vans they use for cop cars in Japan. Do you think those are bad ass too? Would you take a Suzuki microvan over a 360 too?

The story about Paul Walker's interest in imports is supposedly this.

Paul Walker had always been somewhat into cars. During the shooting of the first FnF he took his Porche 911 Carrera to the street races and got his ass destroyed by a Civic Hatch.

After talking to this guy he hung out with him and became his car buddy or whatever. Dissapointed in his Porche and intrigued by these japanese cars, he asked his Civic friend, "what is the best import?" His bud told him that the GTR is the real Godzilla, and since Paul Walker is a rich basturd he should order one.

A few months later Paul had a brand Spankn' new silver R34 Skyline GTR. While promoting the movie he would go to import drag events and sign autographs. He also raced every now and then at these events, and it became an addiction for him.

Viola! the result is a Movie Star 'posing' as a racer with a fully tuned 700hp GTR.

Ok, but the ret of them have ferarri and such, many of which will smoke Paul Walker's, if not in the 1/4 then at the end, because they have higher top speed

:eek7:

I've seen almost as many Skylines in real life as I have NSX's. I've seen more of BOTH than I have 360's.



I'll take you up on that bet, since I really have seen both in person. Have YOU ever actually seen a Skyline in real life? It's nothing special to look at. The general public would probably think it was some kind of fixed up Maxima. The 360 on the other hand, you can just stand 10 feet back and get wood. Park both next to each other, and 95% of car enthusiasts and 110% of the general public are gonna be drooling over the Ferrari, while the Skyline guy is gonna be standing off to the side going "Hey guys, my car's cool too! Really!"



This is completely asinine reasoning

1. Where did anyone say the Skyline sucked?

2. Do you think Crown Victorias are awesome cars too? Cuz they use those for cop cars here. What about Caprices? Would you take a Caprice over a 360 cuz they use them for cop cars?

3. How bout those little goofy vans they use for cop cars in Japan. Do you think those are bad ass too? Would you take a Suzuki microvan over a 360 too?
where the F**K do you livE? you prly live in rich people land, but i bet most of us in here are from USA. so yeah, not alot of people have seen skylines around here. and you know they dont use sklyline cop cars to go arrest someone who stold something! it will be better to compare it to a Viper cop car. use it when you need a REAL hardcore car. why do you hate on the skyline GT-R??

Ok, but the ret of them have ferarri and such, many of which will smoke Paul Walker's, if not in the 1/4 then at the end, because they have higher top speed
some of use dont only care about speed! are you gonna go 200MPH somewhere in the united states? around your block? you talk like if you actually drive F1's as daily drivers and Sh!t.

where the F**K do you livE? you prly live in rich people land, but i bet most of us in here are from USA. so yeah, not alot of people have seen skylines around here. and you know they dont use sklyline cop cars to go arrest someone who stold something! it will be better to compare it to a Viper cop car. use it when you need a REAL hardcore car. why do you hate on the skyline GT-R??

I love the Skyline GTR. I have a model of an R34 I spent hours putting together sitting on top of my computer. Why do you think I'm "hating" on it?

I live in Arkansas BTW, one of the lowest average income states.

Where, other than a Best Motoring video, has a 911 Turbo out performed a 360 Modena?

on the road i've seen a skyline only once, i was with my friends and i go "oh my god there goes an r33 skyline" and they reply, "it doesn't look special to me" they looked no more and just drove off. now if they seen a 360, though they wouldn't know what it is they would slobber on themselves. i've seen literally 25 more nsx than skyline, a buddy of mine even has one. so......... :2cents: yeah

Nacho calm down. If you would read the thread you would realise that pretty much everyone gives plenty of respect to the GTR. However it has been paired against one of the best cars in the world made by a manufacturer with an unmached racing pedigree. So what did you expect of course most people chose the Modena. This does not mean they think the GTR is junk, far from it most people gave it plenty of respect.

And do not get all that superior tone with us because we are quite aware of the GTR strengths and weakneses, and we have made a qualified decision.

Yes the GTR has a very strong engine capable of astronomic power levels. But because of that it is very heavy and in its front position it will have a tremendous polar momentun in turns which is very bad. On the other hand the modena's engine is located in a position close to the rotating point of the car and its very light therefore the modena will rotate far better in the turns and torture the tires less.

This is just one example of why some of us choose the modena and you need to learn to accept other people's opinions and realise that we know quite a bit about cars too, and we can make proper justified decisions.

Also please do realise that its rarity does not make it special in any way, since its caused only by the severe dificulties encountered while importing one, not to mention the costs. This is not a super low series car as an Enzo, its just a car that due to governmental regulations is a pain to import.

It's all been said. The Ferrari has better weight distribution, is lighter, infinitely better looking than the cartoonish Skyline (imo), adheres perfectly to the sports car concept and wears the most evocative automotive badge on its bonnet. You'd be crazy not to pick it. The fact a Skyline can stay with it on a challenging course is a tribute to Nissan's engineers, and lots of wiz-bang electronics, but i personally prefer to let my right foot do the driving. The Skyline is great at what it does, no one's disputing that, but these are two very different cars and im firmly in the 360 camp.

ps. let's not bring 1/4 mile times into this please, it's an insult to everyone's intelligence

Well until an actual side by side comparision of each car has been provided its going to be hard to determine what we wish to know. I would hardly doubt the GTR's ingenuity as much as I would the Modena's. The weight distribution and suspension setup of the Skyline is obviously very effective in the real world, so I see no reason to bash its nose heavy design. And the same goes for the works of the Modena, its without a doubt a work of art.

I have only seen 1 Skyline where I live and it happened to be a blue GTR (I was pleased to say the least). And I've seen nearly half a dozen Modena's (4 of them were at Naples while visiting friends), and the other 1 where I live. Needless to say I haven't driven either and more than likely don't ever plan on doing so for various reasons, but to say if I were to choose between the two it would be the Modena for me. My reasons for choosing the Modena are purely subjective.

I prefer a car that offers more involvement of the driver (quiet extensively in the Modena from what I've heard) over a car requiring considerably less. An MR design, lightweight, high reving n/a has the words "fun" and "involvment" written all over it. On the otherhand, a AWD, slightly heavy, technologically advanced car has the words "fun but controllable" written all over it. Like I said, it is purely subjective to say the least.

high revving? well the skyline redlines at 8 or 9k i think thats pretty high, does the modena rev to like 10k or something?, and the AWD system isn't 50/50 for the skyline, i think of it more as a rear wheel drive, its computer controlled, so its 10% front 90% rear wheel drive all the time, unless during cornering, then is transfers power to the outer tires reducing over/understeer

yes, the gt-r is a great car in the power department. but imo, it doesn't really look all that great. it is not sleek enough for my tastes. i agree with the mods that all of us respect the gt-r, it is just that we rather have the modena.

high revving? well the skyline redlines at 8 or 9k i think thats pretty high, does the modena rev to like 10k or something?, and the AWD system isn't 50/50 for the skyline, i think of it more as a rear wheel drive, its computer controlled, so its 10% front 90% rear wheel drive all the time, unless during cornering, then is transfers power to the outer tires reducing over/understeer

Actually I think the Modena does rev higher than the Skyline. 8500rpm for the Modena, versus the 6800rpm of the GTR. I'm not trying to bash the Skyline in any sort cause I do like the car. I'm only saying that I would like the Modena over a Skyline. As I said before, my reason's of preferring the Modena are only my opinion.

6800 of the gtr?
what are you talking about?

a 360 would take paul walker's skyline?

for the record, his first skyline was a silver r33, not an r34, which ran into the 10's.

his new car, a white r34, has a full tomei race engine in it...
it'd walk pretty much ANY 360.

but that's an exception... in stock form, 360 for most of this, but as a true driver's car, i'd take the skyline, b/c (like i said before) the price of service is far lower in the skyline...

Everyone trashes Paul Walker because its trendy in the import scene to bash on FnF. But have you guys ever heard the man speak? He really does seem like a nice guy and a good person, get your heads out of you asses...

If I were offered enough money to buy drive and race all my dream cars, you'd better believe I'd sell out in a heartbeat. Like i'd care what some people on online forums think?

Actually his daily driver is believe it or not a 65 Nova

This argument seems to be pretty clear the Ferrari is a gorgeous machine and the Italians really know how to make beautiful cars. The Skyline on the other hand well unless you're a true rice rocket lover tends to look plane Jane. Performance wise both are great, and yes the top of the line GTR is really kick ass but not the end all say all to the street scene unless you'r on the Skyline's nuts like some 16 yo's today are. (no car is the say all end all) Someone said it was trendy to cap on The FandF movie well yes it is, but I do it because it had a tired plot I.E.- replace Paul Walker with 1.Keanu Reeves, 2.Wesley Snipes then replace Vin Diesel with 1.Patrick Swayze 2.Gary Busy while your at it replace truck hijacking with 1.bank robbing 2.drug smuggling then go ahead and replace rice rockets with 1.surfing 2.sky diving walla Point Break and Drop Zone ta da! For me it's a case of if I had the money I think I'd go with a Skyline GTR, because in the bay area there are a lot of Ferraris around and few Skylines. I still think the Ferrari is more asthetically pleasing however the Nissan has to be more reliable (let's face Italian cars and bikes are gorgeous just you have to enjoy working on them) This doesn't mean that I think wow and sport wood every time I hear the word Skyline like some people now a days.

I couldnt tell you which is more reliable of the two, but the 360 has actually proved to be very well put together and is much more usable than its predecessors.


On a side note, someone took offence to my previous post where i stated that 1/4 mile times dont mean jack, especially in this comparo. It's sad not understanding cars :disappoin

well...
in regards to reliability...
even if they're similar, i'd rather have a less expensive car to repair...
refer to www.nsxfiles.com for what it costs to fix some of the stuff on doug's 360...
no thank you.
expensive.
very.

for stuff that should not be breaking for the age of the car...

I couldnt tell you which is more reliable of the two, but the 360 has actually proved to be very well put together and is much more usable than its predecessors.


On a side note, someone took offence to my previous post where i stated that 1/4 mile times dont mean jack, especially in this comparo. It's sad not understanding cars :disappoin

most people base ENTIRE cars on the overrated 1320... i agree that it is sad...

6800 of the gtr?
what are you talking about?


Peak hp reached at 6800rpm is what I was referring to.

Click here. (http://www.engine-power.com/nissan/skyline_gtr_r34.html)

Redline rpm reaches 8000rpm, still 500 off of the Modena which not only redlines at 8500 but achieves peak hp there also.

Click here. (http://www.engine-power.com/ferrari/360_modena_spider.html)

The Modena also has close to 40% more displacment than the GTR (A variable that needs to be considered).

As far as reliability goes I'll have to give the node to the Skyline on this one. I can almost surely say it would be cheaper to regularly maintain it over a Modena and also not as often (considering they've both been driven equally).

This argument seems to be pretty clear the Ferrari is a gorgeous machine and the Italians really know how to make beautiful cars. The Skyline on the other hand well unless you're a true rice rocket lover tends to look plane Jane. Performance wise both are great, and yes the top of the line GTR is really kick ass but not the end all say all to the street scene unless you'r on the Skyline's nuts like some 16 yo's today are. (no car is the say all end all) Someone said it was trendy to cap on The FandF movie well yes it is, but I do it because it had a tired plot I.E.- replace Paul Walker with 1.Keanu Reeves, 2.Wesley Snipes then replace Vin Diesel with 1.Patrick Swayze 2.Gary Busy while your at it replace truck hijacking with 1.bank robbing 2.drug smuggling then go ahead and replace rice rockets with 1.surfing 2.sky diving walla Point Break and Drop Zone ta da! For me it's a case of if I had the money I think I'd go with a Skyline GTR, because in the bay area there are a lot of Ferraris around and few Skylines. I still think the Ferrari is more asthetically pleasing however the Nissan has to be more reliable (let's face Italian cars and bikes are gorgeous just you have to enjoy working on them) This doesn't mean that I think wow and sport wood every time I hear the word Skyline like some people now a days.
yeah, some stupid 16 year old on a Skyline's Nutz is here! the only people who use 360's are those rich people. you dont use 360's to drift, race etc etc. on the other hand..the ricer's god, is everywhere and on everyones mouth! used on alot of comparos on this forum. so yeah, you can talk smack to me, it aint like you can do Sh!t. and just to make you happy, ferrari's OWN! :)

most people base ENTIRE cars on the overrated 1320... i agree that it is sad...

Yes yes me too.

Like has been said many times, if you're paying that much for a car, service costs would be to them what vending machine money is to the rest us.

Besides, too many launches in the Skyline will make you weep, when the bills for the transmission replacement roll in.

yeah, some stupid 16 year old on a Skyline's Nutz is here! the only people who use 360's are those rich people. you dont use 360's to drift, race etc etc. on the other hand..the ricer's god, is everywhere and on everyones mouth! used on alot of comparos on this forum. so yeah, you can talk smack to me, it aint like you can do Sh!t. and just to make you happy, ferrari's OWN! :)


Sh!t seems to be all that comes from your mouth weasel d!ck. Actually drifting oooooooooooooowwwwwwwww who gives a rats ass but stupid 16yo kids like you!!?? Actually I like the drifting craze cause it sends dips like you out looking for rear drivers now. If you payed attention to my post I said I'd take the Skyline I know hygiene isn't tops on your list (at least I know it comes after Skyline) but clean out your ears, wipe the slep from your eyes and pay attention. It may be the Ricer's God but I don't do rice! (It's a low carb thing) If I had the Skyline it wouldn't be covered in stupid decals, it wouldn't have an obnoxious body kit, no six foot spoiler, and sure as hell wouldn't have a fart trumpet exhaust system. So as you can see it ain't like you can do sh!t except dream about the ricer's god hero! Or is that Hiro?

If I'm not mistaken... This thread was started with the question of Top-End Stock models.

For some of you that know me, you'll know that I go to the Street Races every Saturday night near Hiroshima and have been doing so for some time now.

I have actually been fortunate enough to witness 4 different 360's racing GT-R's out here in Japan.

Sorry guys, the 360's just move too damn fast on the top end. There were some heavilly tuned GT-R's that got their butt's handed to them more than one night in a row.

There WAS one peticular Silver 360 that was tuned and whipping EVERYONE for two nights in a row. He was finally taken the 3rd night by a Supra and then later by one of the baddest R34's I have ever seen.

PS. There is video of one of these nights (along with the silver 360 posted by matada in the Racing Forum I believe that includes a 300+Kph pass.

Like has been said many times, if you're paying that much for a car, service costs would be to them what vending machine money is to the rest us.

Besides, too many launches in the Skyline will make you weep, when the bills for the transmission replacement roll in.


funny, but doug didn't seem too happy about dropping 7k to fix his F car...

too many launches will make you weep?
the same can be said for any car...

Sorry but since when does a R34 run a low 12 second 1/4 mile????

funny, but doug didn't seem too happy about dropping 7k to fix his F car...


Well, my car cost $18,000 new, and it costs about $700 to get a new factory clutch and installed at the dealership. That's about 3% of the new price for a clutch job. A 360 costs (I'm guessing here) about $180,000, so even if it costs $7,000 for his clutch job, that's still 3%

So what I'm saying is, maintenance is comparatively the same. Sure I'll sweat about and probably get angry with having to spend $700 on a new clutch, but I can swing it. He probably gets pissed about having to spend $7,000 on one, but he can handle it too.

Best Motoring took a R34 GTR V-Spec 2, EVO VIII RS, NSX TYPE S Zero, C5 Corvett (not ZO6), Porche 911 Turbo, and a 360 modena Stratadale and raced them on a race track.

That wasn't a 360CS in the video. It was a 360M 'manufactured by Itoh Racing Service.'

One on one, a Modena might have a chance around the track. An R34 GT-R V-Spec II would probably have the advantage in traction and torque.

The 360CS's tuning could give it the edge to take out the V-Spec II.

Which would I prefer? Neither. An R32 GT-R N1. :biggrin:

if we're talking about the race with the maroon 360 in it, it was an auto (f1 trans) and wasn't a stradale, that's for sure...
don't know on the itoh thing.

http://racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=425&p=3

left click...
if you're a member (which isn't hard to do) that's the video in question... pretty sure it's not a super special ferrari

(i'm rescinding my statement, the ferrari is itoh prepared, cost trans, and a race motor (per what the video says)w/ 400 hp, but i know that in the second race, as in my post below, the car they raced was stock I THINK)

especially b/c they pitted a nismo gtr spec 2 against a 360 and porsche in the next segment, and the skyline whooped on the 360.

The video I have is the R34 GT-R V-Spec II, Evo VII RS, NSX Type-S Zero, Corvette Z51(not Z06), 996 Turbo, and a black 360M from Itoh.

that's the video i just posted...
and the skyline still whooped on the 360.
and that's a non spec 2 r34.

that's the video i just posted...
and the skyline still whooped on the 360.
and that's a non spec 2 r34.


Hey cool a video of a Skyline winning a race! Nobody said a Skyline could never beat the Ferrari or even the Ferrari could never beat the Skyline ( except those riding it's nuts) it's obvious to me that you'd choose Nissan, others would choose Ferrari as ludicrous as that seems to skyline nut ridders it does happen.

funny, but in that race, the skyline didn't win.
it still lost to the porsche...

funny, but in that race, the skyline didn't win.
it still lost to the porsche...


Hey cool, now you can say it, hell we'll say it together.....................................case rested. Tah dah

2 answer ur question if the keys were on the table, i'd have to say the skyline..why u might ask?

1) Cuz its just a car I love.
2) Cuz I've had the luxury of driving a 360 spyder (boss' car) and also an r34 v-spec in CA.
3) Yes its a ferrari and all but for the same amount of cash to get one (and also having to wait 2 years on the waiting list for a new one Bleh =/ ) I can order my JDM R34, trick it out and PWN any ferarri quite easily...for just about 7k cash in parts plus labor, u can trick out a skyline to pwn a ferrari hands down on the straights or on a racetrack

Yes a ferrari has some nice curves to its body and again its a status symbol and image. On the other hand, I believe in not following the common herd and one thing is for sure a ferrari is just that ( 2 year waiting list?!) Now yes u'll get loox in a ferrari but how many "household" know what a skyline is and let alone know what it is after u pwn a 360 on the highway for just a simple 7-10k (labor included) over the cost from motorex.

(my 2 cents...but u can keep only a penny if u like 8P )

Yes a ferrari has some nice curves to its body and again its a status symbol and image. On the other hand, I believe in not following the common herd and one thing is for sure a ferrari is just that ( 2 year waiting list?!) Now yes u'll get loox in a ferrari but how many "household" know what a skyline is and let alone know what it is after u pwn a 360 on the highway for just a simple 7-10k (labor included) over the cost from motorex.

(my 2 cents...but u can keep only a penny if u like 8P )


Yeah you are so unique in worshiping the skyline. You and all the other thousands of other JDM obssesed kids. All unique.

Also please understand that "u" does not mean "you" and "loox" does not mean looks either etc... Proper use of english is recomended in this forum. And last but not least read the
user guidelines (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=162405) for this forum and do not bring back ancient threads.