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Oh no I think my lift pump is dead!!!bentwings 04-18-2004, 12:38 AM 99 Dodge Quad cab 3500 dualie 5 sp 4.10 gear 105k showing I've owned it for the last 20k and 6 months. I just got a Gale banks lift pump checking gage and fittings. I installed it in about 10 minutes. I started the truck up. D....m no pressure showing at all on either fitting. So I pushed the Schrader valve in on the inlet side thinking some fuel would come out...but nooo...nothing came out. I then pushed in the out let valve...and again nothing came out but the motor did drop about 200-300 rpm. It sounded like the timing had been retarded. What's the deal??? is the lift pump totally shot??? It just ran out of the warantee too. This truck runs beautifully. I get 19-20 mpg no load at 65. It just purrs down the road. A bit noisy but no more that other 99's. It doesn't miss, hesitate, smoke or otherwise act up since the day I got it. I was about ready to replace the fuel filter but just haven't got to it yet. Let me know what you think. bentwings pind 04-18-2004, 11:28 AM if there is no pressure at the outlet side of the pump, you either have no power to the pump, or it is not working. Either way, with a 99, do not run the truck without a working lift pump. THose cheesy VP44 injector pumps don't like to run without a lift pump feeding them. They do not lubricate or cool properly without the steady flow. I have seen some that have lasted a while without the lift pump, but I have also seen them fail within 20 minutes of running time. Check your power feed and grounds, and if there is nothing wrong with them, I would go with changing the pump. Better safe than sorry. bentwings 04-21-2004, 03:57 PM HI, Finally I've had automotive success after a month of failures!!! I got a new Cummins lift pump yesterday at the local diesel shop. 185 bucks. I probably could have done a bit better but this was in my very neighborhood so with travel shipping etc it was ok. This one has year warantee unlimited miles. I told the mgr to make sure he had one in May of next year!! LOL He said he would. Idle pressure is 14 psi inlet 13 psi at the filter outlet should be fine I think. Here is how I installed it.: tools: 7/16 ratchet wrench or 7/16 combination wrench 10mm ratchet wrench 11/16 or 17 mm x 3/8 socket short 3/8 ratchet long flop head ratchet optional optional long 3/8 extension +3 inch extension both with wobble end how to do it: disconnect wire on pump open clip on engine dip stick and move the tube over a bit remove inlet line bracket bolt loosen 3 pump bracket bolts loosen inlet line banjo fitting loosen outlet banjo fitting at the top of the filter and at pump remove 3 pump bracket nuts and washers remove inlet banjo fitting and washers remove filter banjo bolt and washers lower pump away from bracket and lift out. carefull of dirt in the fittings transfer outlet line from old pump to the new pump careful of washers leave slightly loose 1/6 turn install new pump with 2 studs closest to the block install 2 nuts and washers and tighten tighten outlet line banjo fittings install inlet banjo. becarefull of washers and dirt leave loose rotate inlet line bracket over hole in pump bracket install bracket bolt tighten inlet banjo fitting, tighten bracket bolt install new wire harness (if needed) install wire harness bracket and tighten 3rd pump nut and washer reclip the motor dip stick tube your are done ...easy huh. ok you need to prime the pump and filter I installed my pressure gage without the gage and submerged the open end in diesel fuel turn on the key to on for 30 seconds. this is as long as the lift pump will run turn the key off wait about 1 minute and repeat you should have seen a few bubbles this means the pump ran I pulled the line and closed the filter up start the motor..it may knock like h..l for a few seconds..normal the idle will be 200 rpm low for about 1 minute as it purges the air out of the system turn the motor off and plug in your gages start it up and check the inlet pressure 10-15 is ok I guess check outlet..you should have less than 4 psi drop. more replace the filter Take it for a test drive and kick some a.... flat rate is only about .8 on this and probably is about right all of the pump bolts on mine had heavy loctite on them and backed out of the pump instead of the nuts coming off. It took a lot of wrenching and swearing around to finally get the studs out of the pump and off the bracket. the book says you need to remove the starter but the local diesel mech put me on to this. He had 8 of them to do this week. oh yeah. If you have a big brush guard do yourself a favor and cut a board about 1 foot x 2 feet and lay it across the guard and the radiator. It is much easier on the knees. I have another story about what was inside the old pump but I'll post that later bentwings vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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