This thing is a monster. Hits 240 mph! 0 to 60 is well under 4 seconds.
http://209.132.49.149/images-large/2000_tvr_cerbera_speed_12-3.jpg

Edited by: igor@af

Yeah, TVR is a wonderful manufacturer. They've been quite productive as of late, as well. All recently they've released the Tuscan and Tuscan R, the Tamora, the Speed 12 has finally made it to production, and they are working on, if haven't already completed, a high performance Cerbera (V12, I believe.)

Looks like they made some changes to the exhaust system since it was a concept. still looks killer. 800+ hp, too.

anyone know anything about that Higher performance Cerbera?

enzo,
i think what you're talking about- the high performance Cerbera with V12 is the Speed 12.
Just go to http://www.tvr.co.uk , click on Models and click on Cerbera Speed 12.

Does any one know if any of these beasts (except the Cerbera - which I hear you can import), is available or will be available in the US? And how much if possible.

No, the Cerbera I speak of is not the Speed 12. What I heard of used a less potent engine and retained Cerbera everything else (except pertinent changes to accomodate the new engine, i.e. suspension). It was rumored above 600HP, but nowhere near the speed 12.

As far as I know, the Cerbera is the only current model that has come to the states, but I've heard both ways about the Griffith.

The Cerbera Speed 12 race car uses the V12 engine from the original Speed 12 (now discontinued). In race form with air restrictors it put out around 600bhp. Unrestricted it's good for almost 900bhp. No top speed testing has been performed yet, so top end is actually unknown. It's only been in a wind tunnel recently.

No TVRs have been sold in the USA since the late eighties. There have been a few personal imports including one Cerbera, but that was recently smashed in a crash.

All the latest news regarding the cars can be found at http://www.pistonheads.com/tvr

Ive heard that it has a 7.7 liter V12 making 818 hp. From what I know, it does 0-60 in 2.9 seconds.

the speed 12 comes in 2 power levels.. 800hp and 880 hp..

its never been top speed tested before, its just theory that it will do more than 240 mph.. its got the material to do it, but it hasnt been done yet

These cars are beasts. Jeeze, 2.9 seconds?!?! What do you think about the dancing platform on the back though?? I don't like it that much...wouldn't it be more streamlined without it? And what is the cost?

It might aid in downforce.

I like that z06 :)

thanks:)

i am beginning to fall in love w/ tvr

Oh hey those Pagani Zonda's are some nice, eh Adam?

oh they are something!


paganizonda.com coming soon!

I want a Speed 12! Do they finance?:D j/k

NIce looking vehicle . . .

Makes me think that these body lines would have evolved if you cross-bred the current model Cougar with a Viper . . .

As they say, "theres no replacement for displacement"

Does anyone else think that its odd how the brits tend to fail when it comes to mass produced performance vehicles, but they excel when it comes to being on top? This TVR has been known to run in excess of 200mph--even 250. For a naturally aspirated gasoline motor, this is beyond outstanding. 300 is the general mark for nitromethane force-induced burners. How many other 12-cylinder autos do you know that can run at airborne speeds? And this is just for the autos.

Many have considered the British Norton Nemesis, with its 235hp, 1497cc, V8 to be the world's fastest production motorcycle. It's not a drag bike, but it's just as mirror-less, with a rear mounted camera showing the past on a screen for the rider. Yes, its faster than the Suzuki Hayabusa, although testing cannot seem to produce a final maximum velocity, which exists somewhere beyond 220mph. There is even a 280hp Nemesis A, which I have no further data about.

What's with the funky white hex discs? Are those the brakes?

The old Speed 12 had more agressive styling. The head lights were different.

Yeah, the concept 12 looked mean as hell! It frightened me it looked so aggressive. I had nightmares for weeks.

They should bring it back.

Definitely. It also had completely blacked out tail-lights and headlights that looked awesome!

I know. If theirs one car I could have now besides the Skyline. It would be teh Speed 12 conspect.

or nutz what do they have 2 go and cover the desigs in snot for. dam it looks well not as nice. oh and guess what i get 2 c a tvr cerbera everyday cos it goes down my street while im w8ing for my bus. sounds so nice

Originally posted by i_rebel
Makes me think that these body lines would have evolved if you cross-bred the current model Cougar with a Viper . . .

How could you compare such a masterpiece of design to a pair of vulgar, unrefined and poorly developed american suedo sports cars?:)

God I love these cars. Sometimes I wish a good American magazine such as Road & Track or Automobile would do a cover article... but then I realize every rich fob and his dog would own one, much like Ferrari's and Lambos. :(

tvr is starting to grow on me...but i think they need to gett some in the US of A right now

Just look for TVR Cerbera on google images... you will spend the next half hour realizing just how much you need one of these cars. You will begin to see that you could drive it as a daily driver, it's not much more expensive for a late 90s Cerbera 4.2, than it is for a new Corvette. It's a 4 seater, which the Corvette is not... It turns heads like nothing else.

are they legal in the US though.. last i knew they weren't and if you wanted yours to pass emmissions it cost an extra 15000

Morpheus... i would like to know how the h%ll someone can stay on a motorcycle going 220 mph. to tell you the truth i think only pros would buy one

Right now they are not importing to the US, which is a shame. They have been talking about returning to the US market for the last 5 years or so. There are plans for selling the Tamora and Tuscan, and probably the Cerbera as well. I believe the Tamora was originaly designed with the North American market in mind.

If TVR starts selling in the states again, this means you can get an older Cerbera from continental Europe in LHD, and register it as a new model year Cerbera, as in a 2003 or 2004 model.. :D devious, illegal, but possible. It was done quite a bit with Maseratis, they took European models, and registered them as imaginary older US models.

As for the bike, you do 220mph on a track with a very nice smooth surface, on a calm day with no wind.

the main reason TVR's arent imported to the US is because the boss of TVR says he wants to make cars that he wants to make, and not have to build cars to US requirments and demands. There are so many of them around in the UK that TVR doesnt need to export to the USA to keep going, although i think they probably will eventually. I think most people in the UK get to see a TVR on most days!!!I sure do!

TVR's are a pretty common sight where i live as well. I think the only people who would seriously buy, and be able to keep and afford a speed 12 are those who have the dehumidified storage garage, and about 60 factory miles on the car :(

somebody get a nice pic of this kickass car :finger:

here is the one i saw at the motorshow. it competed in the 2002 british GT series

and another pic

Was that the Birmingham motorshow? I really should have gone. :(

Originally posted by jsb88
Was that the Birmingham motorshow? I really should have gone. :(

yes it was. none of the cars were restricted (on trade day at least), except the Enzo, the MG and the Continental GT. you could sit in them all

Well I am sure I could find a mate with one.... :(

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R


yes it was. none of the cars were restricted (on trade day at least), except the Enzo, the MG and the Continental GT. you could sit in them all
:eek: Did you sit in the Speed 12?

Originally posted by YellowMaranello

:eek: Did you sit in the Speed 12?

unfortunately not. with it being a race car you were allowed to touch it look right inside etc. but to allow every1 to sit in it would take forever to get them in and out. the cerbera alone is hard enough

That would be fun! :)

really a great car

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R

but to allow every1 to sit in it would take forever to get them in and out. the cerbera alone is hard enough
Yeah, it would take a year and a half, but damn, it would sooo be worth the wait.:D

In that time you could probably spend all your time working, in supermarkets, your real job, club bouncer at night, and you could afford one!:D

jsb... you just read the thread about "who can afford a lambo" :D :D

yes! Try hards basically... It is true! or you are just talented like me :rolleyes:

hehe well can´t see your lambo :D

I dind't want one... Who said I did....


ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME... HUH? COME ON THEN!

the tvr is so cool i love it i have never seen a car so beutiful







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how do you put an image under the stars can you please tell me....

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Originally posted by farbod
how do you put an image under the stars can you please tell me....

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/member.php?s=&action=editoptions

scroll to the bottom.

:p

THIS CAR IS WICKED
http://www.urbantakeover.co.uk/aphro/tvrweb.jpeg






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wow;)

thats a lie it does 0-60 in 2.9 seconds thats the fastest

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are u sure? 2.9 with normal tires hm...

ok i did my research and this is what i found


ENGINE:
800bhp and also available at 860bhp
V-12

WEIGHT:
1000 kg

PERFORMANCE:
0-60mph: 2.5 seconds others say 2.9 seconds
Top Speed: 240+

Yes you have read this right and yes they are correct.
Can get to 60mph before you can wright "TVR Speed 12 is very fast"
My God this car is fast.


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sweet ;)

I think AF should design our own car to beat this time, and call it the AF roadster. We could design it all online! I bet that would break a record, fastest production car and first car where the designers didnt meet.

yea we should ask in the design modelling and graphic section

Yes.... Who has a wind testing tunnel? :D But seriously we could design a good car!!!

for wind testing we could ask at ferrari :D

yeh i love ferrari


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i this car is the BEST SUPER CAR AROUND..........................





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does eny one know how much it costs
i realy want to know
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Well this car is in EVO magazine this month, in an interview with the TVR engine shop guy "Andy". What he says pretty much clears up any speculation of power figures, prices etc.. For the power figures, noone knows, the race cars were restricted to around 660 to 680bhp, but the fully unrestricted road car engine was only ever dyno'd once on TVR's 1000bhp dyno.......and it broke it. The torque from the engine snapped the input shaft to the dyno before a proper reading could be taken. The only way the car ever had a half accurate power figure was when the car was run seperately on 2 banks of cylinders, and each of the two banks was dyno'd seperately. From combining this TVR could only estimate the power, to be around 940bhp at 7200rpm.

And on it's price/availablilty. The owner of TVR drove the car once, and knew straight away the car was too dangerous. It was too powerful for its own good. Nearly 1000bhp in a car weighing just over a ton. So as for the rumours that one or two will be built per month for customers, its no longer true. The undisclosed number of cars already built have been locked away, and you will never be able to buy or drive a road going TVR Speed 12:(

horrible news you have there :( :( :(

:eek: :eek: :eek: thats not good :eek: :eek: :eek:

Well if it is too powerful, with over 1000bhp, weiging just over a ton, then if you were to crash you would go home in a matchbox. With no airbags this would be a disasterous offering to the public. Imagine the insurance costs!!! :( Sad but you have to agree sensible.

well the insurance on one of the old minies for someone under 21 i £2,000 so for the tvr i cant even imagine howe much it will be. but i supoes someone who is ready to buy a car well over £100,000 is not going to worry about the insuarence .


does eny one know the price of this car?


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Are you sure it is £2000!! I pay £1000 for my Jag!! and my wifes first car was a mini. On limited milage or expectancy of about 12k miles a year, it owuld cost a lot less than that... That is a true rip off.

the price is diffarent for diffarent ages if you are under 21 usualy the insurance is much more expensive. and yes it was the old mini




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Originally posted by farbod


does eny one know the price of this car?




there is no price, they arent for sale and never will be.

I know about insurance policy rules, but £2000 for a buggered old mini is a bit too much. That is why my sons car is insured under my name for £400 a year.

maby i am wrong




WHY IS THE TVR NOT FOR SALE IS IT A CONCEPT CAR?????????








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Well this car is in EVO magazine this month, in an interview with the TVR engine shop guy "Andy". What he says pretty much clears up any speculation of power figures, prices etc.. For the power figures, noone knows, the race cars were restricted to around 660 to 680bhp, but the fully unrestricted road car engine was only ever dyno'd once on TVR's 1000bhp dyno.......and it broke it. The torque from the engine snapped the input shaft to the dyno before a proper reading could be taken. The only way the car ever had a half accurate power figure was when the car was run seperately on 2 banks of cylinders, and each of the two banks was dyno'd seperately. From combining this TVR could only estimate the power, to be around 940bhp at 7200rpm.
By GTR

what´s all in the evo of this month?

its a good issue, the best articles:

Bugatti Veyron
Aston V8 Vantage
Holden Monaro vs. BMW M3
interview with Gordan Murray about the Veyron
800bhp MTM Audi TT
VW Golf R32
"power wars" - a piece analysing the highest power cars, group b cars, dragsters etc.
Merc E55 vs. Audi RS6 vs. BMW M5
Interview with Peter Wheeler - where he talks about the Speed 12
Dax Rush Hayabusa
Audi S4
end of year longterm cars test

wow... I should go and get a copy... :)

Originally posted by Pennzoil GT-R
its a good issue, the best articles:

Bugatti Veyron
Aston V8 Vantage
Holden Monaro vs. BMW M3
interview with Gordan Murray about the Veyron
800bhp MTM Audi TT
VW Golf R32
"power wars" - a piece analysing the highest power cars, group b cars, dragsters etc.
Merc E55 vs. Audi RS6 vs. BMW M5
Interview with Peter Wheeler - where he talks about the Speed 12
Dax Rush Hayabusa
Audi S4
end of year longterm cars test

sounds good
do you know that it costs here at the airport? (it´s the only way i can get it)
14€... what does it cost in britain

i agree it realy sounds good i cant wait to get it

ok i am starting to get a little bit confused
1.why is this car not available to buy?
2. is it a concept car?
3.has the top speed been confered yet?

PLEASE TELL ME I WANT TO KNOW

I just bought this months Evo on your recommendation. Now sit down and listen children. :D

The car is not available to buy because the boss of TVR, Peter Wheeler drove the car back to his home, and withign 300 yards of driving he realised the car was too fast. Weighing as much as an ordinary TVR with twice the BHP with its 7.7 litre v12 (actually 2 engines joined together) meant that it was far too dangerous a car to manufacture.
The list price for the car £160,000 ($257,000) but he decided that they would never be sold for the road. He has had a few offers from poeple to buy them, but he has talked them all out of buying the car. Maybe they might be sold for racing one day, but not for a few long years yet.
When they were measuring the BHP, the machinery used to measure was destroyed by the cars engine, with a limit of 1000 BHP, so top speed would be well over 240MPH. The tests on the 2 engines linked together showed 940BHP. Buto n a car weighing 1150KG, any Mclaren F1 would not have stood a chance against the Speed 12.

Menu, it costs 3.60 here! (5.51 Euros) so you are paying 3 times the value!!

well

thanks jsb


but at the airport it´s the only magazine shop i know that has the magazine...
i pay the value if there´s good stuff in and that´s in the evo!

thats aufal i was realy looking forward too seing it on the road.
surely they can fix that problem. they could reduce the horse power a bit and make it heaviour.






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But then it wouldn't truly be a speed 12.

a true fan of the car would change nothing!

Yes I suppose...

i guess thats the end of the speed 12

Oh well.... :( good car... too good for its own good.

and i think that´s good!
a true enthusiast takes it as it is
that´s why i hate the tuning firms :D

atleast we know it would have whiped all the other cars in a race i mean have you ever heared of a car that is "too fast to drive"



i recon they should make a new car not the speed 12 they could call it the speed 13 and they could fix all the problems of the speed 12.

have you heared of the buggati veyron it is proberly the only car that could stand a chance in a race againts the tvr speed 12. it has 1001bhp
0-100km in 3.2 seconds 0-300km in under 14 seconds and a max speed of over 250 miles per hour. you might want too read that bit again.
BUT dont get your hopes up because it costs a whoping £750,000 and well over $1,000,000 thats £750 per 1bhp.

If TVR did sell to racers then they would probably make a few easy 10's of millions.

I think so.

Menu I sent the EVO magazine...

1) I hurt my fingers playing 5's so the adress is a bit messy, but should do.
2) I fogot to right Germany, but did put Air Mail, which might have Germany on the sticker, and they can work out Worthsee i in Germany.
3) they only had normal large brown envelopes, no squidgy ones....

Hope it turns out all right! :)

Originally posted by jsb88
Menu I sent the EVO magazine...

1) I hurt my fingers playing 5's so the adress is a bit messy, but should do.
2) I fogot to right Germany, but did put Air Mail, which might have Germany on the sticker, and they can work out Worthsee i in Germany.
3) they only had normal large brown envelopes, no squidgy ones....

Hope it turns out all right! :)
ok
you´ll get the laraki cd next days!

greets
Menu

Can't wait!!

me too
yo is eny one online at the moment

I think that tvr only made 2 of the original Speed 12's, both with the 850bhp 7.7L engine, but that never went into production. They're both rotting in the backyard of the factory in Blackpool, cuz ive seen them, what a shame. The Cerbera Speed 12 has the same engine, but in a modified Cerbera shell, which means that the Cerbera Speed 12 isnt quite as fast as the original. Oh, and tvr have opened a factory in the states i think, though i dont know where. They used to be illegal due to US emission laws, but now the laws have been changed, tvr have started selling in the states again. They're really cheap as well, a cerbera speed 12 only costs £150k in england!

ONLY 150k is alot of money you know

For a 1000+Bhp car? which would be one of the fastest in the world if made? thats cheap I assure you. That thing could kick the Enzo at three times the price!

That thing could kick the Enzo at three times the price!
Heck yeah! no competition

i supose so the only other car that has 1000bhp wich is the bugatti veyron costs 750k

is there any TVR dealership in the United States?

As far as i know, TVR have recently (like in the last couple of years or so) started having dealerships in the US again. Im sure that i saw one in Orlando, not too far from international drive when i went there this summer. there wont be many dealers yet, there are only a handful in the UK, but you can bet that it wont be long before there are quite a few in the states.

lol Speed 12 is t3h leet it will beat my Mazda 121 it must be pretty fast!!!!!!111111111111111111111111111111111

Ive heard that it has a 7.7 liter V12 making 818 hp. From what I know, it does 0-60 in 2.9 seconds.
not by TVR but i let a profesional driver take my one out for a spin and he got to 290 on the straigh at eastern creek <aus> i got it imported from UK and its a trailer bitch or show car ie: insured but not registered lives in a high security garage wit hmy other cars. my daily driver is a mustang because i dont beleive in ricing i like speed 12's they are very comfortable in the cabin IMO

I only have a few show cars, my best one is my stock hyundai excel

not by TVR but i let a profesional driver take my one out for a spin and he got to 290 on the straigh at eastern creek <aus> i got it imported from UK and its a trailer bitch or show car ie: insured but not registered lives in a high security garage wit hmy other cars. my daily driver is a mustang because i dont beleive in ricing i like speed 12's they are very comfortable in the cabin IMO

A mechanic who sells LAN supplies...? :eek7: http://www.1337-lan.tk/ ?

"located in the Blue Mts. in Australia." Isn't that quite far away from Sydney?

The "admins" appear to be Alex Dan and Dave, a company on this scale (judjing by the website) would surely mean that you, Linketh would have a hand in the running of the site?

I am particularly interested in your very aggressive signature defending the fact you has these cars. You are new, has anybody even doubted you before this moment? (Linkeths cars list):

2002 TVR Speed 12
1998 Ferrari F50
2002 Maserati 3200 GT
2000 Ford Mustang

And his signature - "I own these cars they are very nice if you doubt me i will OWN you" Ooh Scary...

A mechanic who sells LAN supplies...? :eek7: http://www.1337-lan.tk/ ?

"located in the Blue Mts. in Australia." Isn't that quite far away from Sydney?

The "admins" appear to be Alex Dan and Dave, a company on this scale (judjing by the website) would surely mean that you, Linketh would have a hand in the running of the site?

I am particularly interested in your very aggressive signature defending the fact you has these cars. You are new, has anybody even doubted you before this moment? (Linkeths cars list):

2002 TVR Speed 12
1998 Ferrari F50
2002 Maserati 3200 GT
2000 Ford Mustang

And his signature - "I own these cars they are very nice if you doubt me i will OWN you" Ooh Scary...
hey i didnt come here to flame mate i came here for a good discussion i never give out my real details on forums. that site is one i just found and my name isnt linketh do you think i would keep my name if it was? its a stupid name but i use it as a handle for ps2 online so i use it for everything please dont be scared of me i jus twant to be friends ill admit that i dont own a ferrari f50 or a speed 12 but the maserati is mine and so is the mustang. the speed 12 belongs to my father but i wanted to make an impression so i posted it was mine im really sorry i hope i dont get banned will i get banend for this? i dont want to im only new and i shoud get a warning and im really dsorry il ledit it and put in my proper details if you want me to ill even make my sig my credit card details just dont ban me please


EDIT: you need more proof have a look further thru that site seriously it isnt even finished go on have a look thats proof it isnt my site and my name isnt any of them

No of course you won't get banned. Don't worry too much it happens all the time, and at least you had the guts to admit it.

No of course you won't get banned. Don't worry too much it happens all the time, and at least you had the guts to admit it.
**sniff** thanks for being so nice to me but i do own the maserati and the mustang. the speed 12 is my fathers also he lives in england sumwhere. ran off wit hhis secratery <happens so often nowadays>

EDIT: and the stats about the speed 12 that i posted are true as i have driven it before but i dont own it. once again im really sorry im still a little paranoid about getting banned

The only reason you got caught is because I am very suspicious, I have done this loads of time dont worry people don't get banned that easily!

The only reason you got caught is because I am very suspicious, I have done this loads of time dont worry people don't get banned that easily!
oh thats good news! do you beleive me about the other cars tho? i hope you do because well yeah its true. shame i dont own the speed 12 its a real nice motorveichle<sp?>

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what about automobile?

good point! missed that one.

Just curious Linketh, exactly what kind of mechanic are you that you could afford an Arnage, an XJ220 and a 3200 GT. Also what does your dad do that he can afford a car that was never sold?

The XJ220 might be on sale as a company product, fathers money may have bought the Maserati, Arnage and Mustang...


Speed 12? good point