should i go for the s-15 sr20det or the rb25det?

What kind of car do you have and what are you going for? Drifting? Drag racing? Show?

Doesn't matter what t's for, I would get the rb25det cause of the larger displacement.

Originally posted by Lmnhed
What kind of car do you have and what are you going for? Drifting? Drag racing? Show?

car: '96 240sx

A little bit of drag racing and show, and i know the sr is probably the best for drifting, but i just wanted to know the pro's and con's

well i got an Sr20DET in my 240 and let me just say that it give so much kick on high rpm starts.I swapped in a S15 spec motor which took 3 days to actually make it fit under the damn hood by professionals.But it gives off a sweet 250 HP from just the motor.Only problem i have with my motor is that i'm still trying to get used to the quicker shifting after the first gear.After first gear, my RPM's drop only about 1000 which raises rather quickly.I didn't really notice how small the power band was between 1st and 2nd, but as soon as you hit 2nd gear, any civic,prelude, or anyother type of rice rocket is in your rear view mirror looking like a spec.Thank god for my shift light, or else i think i would be shifting past redline.still have some getting used to, but in about a month i won't even need my monster tach.

Originally posted by joebowlr21
well i got an Sr20DET in my 240 and let me just say that it give so much kick on high rpm starts.I swapped in a S15 spec motor which took 3 days to actually make it fit under the damn hood by professionals.But it gives off a sweet 250 HP from just the motor.Only problem i have with my motor is that i'm still trying to get used to the quicker shifting after the first gear.After first gear, my RPM's drop only about 1000 which raises rather quickly.I didn't really notice how small the power band was between 1st and 2nd, but as soon as you hit 2nd gear, any civic,prelude, or anyother type of rice rocket is in your rear view mirror looking like a spec.Thank god for my shift light, or else i think i would be shifting past redline.still have some getting used to, but in about a month i won't even need my monster tach.

that is kickass...i am actually looking for a 240sx right now to swap in a SR20DET but i dont know so much about the SR20DET but someone told me that the motor is only 205hp stock.....is this information correct???
any info would be appreciated
thanks
G2

on the S13 Sr20det motor it is 205hp stock.But i paid alot more money and it took alot more effort for me to get the S15 spec motor which is 250 stock.I just got a newer version of the motor which came with more HP, but it was also harder to it into my car especialy with a 180sx tranny.I had to get a better tranny and the company who sold me the motor said the 180sx tranny is alot more durable then the us 240sx tranny.So basicaly i'm jsut trying to JDM my entire car.I really want to get an S14 front conversion with a jdm 180sx back.My dream is to own a sil-eighty and i'm halfway there with power checked off.Now i just need to save for the outer cosmetics and my dream is complete.

:sun: :sun: :sun:

fuck yeah, your fucking awesome joebowlr, id go with the s15 motor anyday, glad to see that we have something in common for the love of the s15 sr20det. question though, how come u didnt stick with the six speed tranny (even though i heard its not all that durable compared to other nissan trannys), a 240sx with a six speed would be like the girl next door with the perfect package all around (if u know what i mean)
;)

The shop i ordered the motor through didn't include a trannny so i bought a tranny that they suggest would be good for the engine.I checked around other places and found many include the S15 tranny, but they are not guarented with warrenty or anything like that.ALso it is not as easy to find an S15 motor with the 6-speed tranny since they get swapped up pretty quick.The store was also telling me how if i wanted to wait for a 6-speedi could, but there would be problems with it.They told me about how many customers with the 6-speed were have power band problems.They were'nt getting the full potential out of there engine which lead to them spending more money on the mechanics trying to fix the problem.So i just told them to hook me up with a tranny that will last for a goodwhile and since i bought an older 180sx tranny, i have a 5 year waranty that says if for any reason the transmission fails to respond they will replace it free of charge.I was like F@#k yeah.

Oh and i fnaly got that whole 2nd gear issue fixed.I guess the person who owned the tranny was experimenting with the gear ratios for the purpose of drifting.The mechanic i went to told me that alot of people who enjoy drifting make their 2nd gear real short so they can take corners at 3rd gear,shift-lock down to 2nd gear, shift back up to 3rd, then accelerate out of the corner.I decided to keep this setting to try it and get a feel for it.

RB25DET is king. I have one in my 240SX and haven't been beat by a SR yet....they haven't even come close. Http://240Skyline.nissanpower.com

Night

Dude, I can get the S13 SR engine (205hp stock) for about $2500, what's the going price for a S15 spec motor with tranny?

There's a noticeable difference in price...SR's ranging from 2k-3k while the RB25DET ranges from 3.5k to about 6k

So whatever fits your budget more...oh and RB parts will be more expensive

It depends on where you want to go wiyh your project. If you want more power i would suggest going with an RB26dett.

go with the sr. there is more and more support in the us for the sr now but barely anything for the rb. go with sr

about the rb26dett, i've heard of people dropping them into a 240sx, but i've never heard how difficult the swap actually is. anyone happen to know?

Its diffucult.

I hear the S15 6-speed is made of glass, and it cant handle much power.
Some guys in Japan are swapping in S14 trannys and using the S14 driveshaft.

You guys should all take a look at my sig.

Also, S14 frotn ends for hatches do exist but it doesnt look too hot.
Check www.taka-kaira.co.jp

OR

www.santeca.com

These guys are the shiz, my friend works for them. They import East bear and have a Silvia project going on(w. SR20 and GT3037 Turbo(

Actually, I price the RB25DET clips at $3250. They put a good 250 to the wheels unlike the S15 SR which gets about 210-215 to the wheels. RB25 is also cheaper than a S15 and requires a lot less work to get in.

The RB engines have TONS of support here in the US for stock replacement parts. They also have a great amount of aftermarket support being offered by several companies in the US, and prices are very similar to the SR aftermarket prices, some parts are actually cheaper.

RB26 swap is fairly difficult if you keep the twin turbo setup. If you go RWD tranny (RB25) and single turbo, it's a fairly simple swap.

Night
http://240Skyline.nissanpower.com

Installing a RB25 would still requare alota work to put in i assume since it still is larger the the SR20. And that would cost money as well alot more then the SR20, over all im guessing its alot more expensive. Ohh well i like the RB25 setup more, if i had the money thats what id do :bloated: :bloated:

Alrighty, here's the lowdown on this swap:

$3250 RB25DET Clip
$400 - New Driveline
$150 - Parts, ie: fluids, filters, wires, crimps, etc...
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$3800 = 250 RWHP


$2250 RB20DET Clip
$0 - Uses KA driveline
$150 - Parts, ie: fluids, filters, wires, crimps, etc...
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$2400 = 205-210 RWHP


That's it guys. That's all the cost behind both swaps.

Night

all right, so which engine (sr20 or rb25) is more modifiable? from everything i've heard, the sr is easier to find parts for but the rb responds much better to mods. supposedly the rb can be built to 500hp on stock internals with fairly simple mods; how difficult would it be for the sr to equal that?

as far is i know the SR wasent built for mad power like the RB...:bloated: :bloated:

:newburn: :newburn: :sun: :flash:

RB is easier to mod and get great results with. To get the SR to 500hp takes a lot of work. The RB's have a lot of parts available for them. You can get just about anything. 500hp is possible on stock internals.

Night

i wouldnt worry about what model sr20 you get, id honestly go for a s14 one, simplest to fit, as far as power, the turbos are a little different(between s14 and s15, and even between older and newer s14), but youre better off spending the extra money on a front mount cooler and a big exhaust, than on trying to find an s15 clip . ive also heard the 6 speed is not the strongest, nothing specific though, so depenging on how far you wanna go, you may never have any trouble. fitting the rb25 will be alot harder, youll either need a plethora of o.e nissan mounts on hand, to see what MIGHT work, or custom ones, plus modifying the loom, custom heater hoses, radiator hoses.. depends if its all worth it to you, for a show car, it does have a bit more ooh ahh factor, cos its not ment to be there. a stock bottom end of a sr20 is regarded to be safe for slightly over 400ps, the rb around 450 or so. the rb will be more driveable though, capacity = torque (sorta). then theres weight bias, which will ofcourse be better with the sr, then again, up until just recently, the best drifter in australia drove an s13 with a 450ps rb20, and quite spectacularly :D his personal car now though is still an s13, but with an sr20 so..

Not trying to start a flame, but it sounds like you're trying to tell me how hard the RB swap is when I've already done it. Click on this: http://240Skyline.nissanpower.com That's my car, my install.

The RB25 is not hard to fit in the 240SX. You don't need any plethora of mounts, all you need is a R33 clip with the cross member and RB engine mounts to make it fit. There is no need to "modify" the loom as all you do is integrate 5 wires between the RB and KA harnesses unless you wanna go the hard way and integrate every wire in your car. Custom heater hoses aren't necessary, neither are radiator hoses. The RB25 bottem end can handle 500+ on stock internals. If you live in Australia, you should know that. One reason your judement on hp might be off is because of the dynos in australia, they tend to rate everything lower than they actually are. Take a RB25 in Japan or the US and dyno it, then the same one in Australia and you're probably looking at a good 25-30 hp rwhp difference between the two just from different dynos. This was told to me by Meggala who founded Meggala.com

Night

fair enough, what about the tail shaft then? and the gearbox cross member, shifter location? clutch line? im not trying to start a flame war either, im just interested, ive also got a few friends with rb20s in s13s i was aware of the cross member swap option, but on bens silvia, that ment the tail shaft needed mods, and the shifter was further foward then stock. peace.

I have a question my buddy mentioned it to me and i did remember reading it some where about how the Skyline motors if used to swap with an left hand driven car it would have to be converted to a right hand drvin car. because of the way the motor is set up. you can only have it as a right hand driven car. ANy one ever heard of this or can show me some proof that it is okay to swap with out changing it to a right hand driven car. thankx all!!!

:confused: :confused: :sun: :flash:

Thats not true....

SR's are right hand drive cars, and they come out fine...

and if you want proof that it's ok to stay left-side drive with skyline motors, just check out nightxcz77's site.

i think it had something to do with the location of the down pipe and how its on the other side or something and it cant cross over the tranny there for it has to be right hand driven. maby now there is a way to fix that but ill check out that sight. just that i remember reading some where many years ago about the swap and it had to be converted to right hand driven. well i went through that sight a hundred times and no where does it say anything about right hand driven or not, nor does the pix of his car help the windows are so dark that u cant see nothing at all inside. Anyone else have any proof that its okay to install the RB with out changeing it to right hand driven, just to make sure cause im sure it ok just some hard proof would be alot more reasuring thankx guys!! and it will shut my friend up :confused: :confused:

well if that info can't be found on his site, how about we simply ask him. hey night, your car is still left-side-drive after the motor swap, right?

You can absolutely swap in an rb25det and leave the wheel on the left. The downpipe fitment issues are with the rb26dett.

Originally posted by NIF
You can absolutely swap in an rb25det and leave the wheel on the left. The downpipe fitment issues are with the rb26dett.

the twin turbos also impede with the steering column in the LHD cars.

Ya thats what i though ohh well, so you will need alot of custom work to get a RB26det in there then huh!! ohh well RB25 is good enough for me.!!!

i have a 93 240sx and i swaped the engine with the RB26DETT,. i had some problems when i swaped it but everything worked out and the engine is a monster. some problems when i swaped it------->i had to take one of the turbos off and instead of twin turbo its just one. but even thought it still gives me about 310-320 hp at the flywheel (including some other mods i made to the car) the swap was fairly easy for everything except the turbo incedent. i have a 6 speed gear box, and its awesome... i had to do alittle frame work but it didnt take too long and everthing worked out great. i bought the engine from a japanise import-export dealer and it cost me $8500.00 including shipping. i have never been beaten in a straight line race. (that is after i got the engine swaped, but before that i have been beaten many times) well i dont race much, yet, because i am waiting for more $$$ so i can get some more mods... etc well if you wanna know anything just ask....

4 month old thread, dude. :wink:

Ya, please dont bring old threads up...

Do you know Alan Obermiller by any chance?

uhh, i wonder what part of st louis tokar lives.......i like to think that i know hte 240 market around here pretty well, and if i dont, alan sure as hell does.....i've never heard of this rb26 powered 240sx.....and surely someone i know would have. :confused:

and...this kid is only 16. hmmmm........

another dirtydawgs on our hands? why to people need to be so damn feeble? i drive a 12 year old, 344,000km Pontiac family car with an automatic transmission and no hubcaps, yet i'll readily admit it. i won't lie about what i drive. i don't necessarily like the car i drive, but it get's me around, and i know i'll have a 240SX before October (have to wait until after my court date).

You had one for a day, and have driven many a 240, thats more than some people can say

Diry Dawgs also claimed he has trouble during the swap, but Heavy Throttle helped him :rolleyes:

Were dealing with a new kind of lamer here. A very educated one lol

ya i am 16, and i did the swap, i bought the engine from a japanise import-export car dealer, i did the swap at my brother in laws shop (where i work), and i live in west county st. louis, i ushally go to the racing strip at gateway but since i did the swap.. i have been working on the car and havent had much time to race with it, ............ and if you wanna check my car out, and you live in st. louis why dont you drop by my brother in lwas shop its called Vasas performace parts. the address is 14204 manchester rd. why dont you stop by, and just ask for me (sasha) i am ushally there.

Post pics of you, next to your car, with a sign that says AF OWNZ ME and a finger in your nose.

i'm still doubting this rb26dett in a 240......vasas performance isnt listed in the new phone book, and no one in stl has ever heard of vasas performance, at least the peole i've talked to. but i'm comin out there this week.

Hahah I did a mapquest and nothing came up....RB26DETT swap by yourself...hahaha, not even unstable could do that shiz. As I said, post pics and we shall see...

i looked it up in the white pages....no such thing as "vasas performance parts". sorry kid, i'm raisin the flag until i actually see it.....and i will be driving to find it. :bs:

I think we got another DIRTYDAWGS

god, how can we be so blessed. Not even that, but DIRTYDAWGS sticks around and contributes NOTHING and posts in caps.

All I can say is if this guy is telling the truth, then I will bow down to him.

well I wasnt going to put the Ownage link in my sig but not only does he contribute nothing he repeats himself at least five times and then adds some gem of information he heard from his Uncle.


and if he isnt BSing at least the pic of him with his finger in his nose will be funny.

Does anyone know if Heavy throttle is a reliable importer of SR20's?
Has anyone gone through Heavy throttle and successfully swaped an S15 engine into their car? I'm looking into an S15 or S14 swap into a 97 or 98 240 an have no idea where to take the car and engine to so it can be properly swapped in. Is anyone here from New York in the Poughkeepsie area who has done this swap and could post up some pics of their car? I'm looking for a good car shop that has experience with the swap in the New York area. Thanks for the feedback.

your one lucky guy, your pretty close to heavy throttle, they are EXCELLENT at what they do....i, as well as many other enthusiasts, consider them to be the authority on sr20det's. go with them if you can.

you know i have never cared what people said about me, or what people think, if your going to doubt or just not beleive i dont really care, because i know the truth and what i said was the truth... whats the point of bull shitting??...........there is no point.........and thats why i dont bull shit you wanna see my ride why dont you come and see it, if you dont then just forget about it.........and if you cant see my ride at the shop go down to gateway and ask about the ametuer drag racing league... youll see my name right next to it will be a pic of me and ride--> name=sasha tokar ride =240sx rb26dett.. why dont you come and see.......(and vasas performance parts was just opened up last month by my bro in law named gene nimell..........i guess thats why it might be unlisted yet.)

you cant blame any of us for saying bullshit.....vasas performance isnt in the white pages, nor has anyone ever heard of it in st. louis....also, when i put the address into mapquest, it gave me a general area saying it couldnt locate your street adress. do you go to the tuesday night street tire night? or do you go to the wed. night event that is drag radials only?

also, where on manchester are you? past barret station rd.? and if i'm going west on manchester, what side of the road are you on (the same side as sams, or the same side as the mall)??? cause i'm comin by tomorrow

i might be up at gatway this tuesday,. look for a black 240sx with a sticker on the right fevder thats says Vasas performance parts, and i got a GTR logo in the back instead of the nissan logo.

go register as a user at www.stlstreetracing.com/forums



and where on manchester is vasas....refer to above post for my ideas

its on the same side that sams is on, he just opened it, and he doesnt have a sign on his shop yet, but there is a wooden sign near the road, that says vasas performance parts shop and garage. its easy to miss but its there, you just gotta look around.

Originally posted by tokar400
and i got a GTR logo in the back instead of the nissan logo.

:spit:

Now I REALLY think your BS'ing lol

Why do I have to come to St.Louis to see your car. How hard is it to post pics? Every other RB26/240 hybrid owner has posted pics. Oh right, cuz you dont own it. I dont belive you untill I have evidence, either pictures or from Lucas.

I'll let everyone know today......that is if i can find the place..lol

Lets bet on whether its BS or not.

didnt have time to go by it today unfortunatly......work called me in.....damn work, always makin me their bitch:bloated: i'm comin tomorrow

well if you wanna see my ride come by between 7am-8pm every weekday........before school starts

well if he WANTS u guys to go see the car, he is DARING u guys to see it, why u gotta still be anal about it and not believe him.

tokar see if u can get a pic of u in ur car and shut everyone up please.

i have faith in u :icesangel

Cuz only 1 of us lives in St.Louis and were often busy.

Its an empty threat/bluff.

ill try to get some pics up, after like a day or two, because i dont feal like recharging my digital cam....... but i ll get them!!!!!......NO LIES!!!

i'm callin bullshit again, until i see pictures, because you said 14204 manchester......that address is definatly a genisis workout and fitness. AND you told me that your shop is on the same side as sams, but 14204 is on the opposite side.

dude..... i dont know the adress i just know it starts with 14, but ill get it today when i got there, (i dont kive there, i just work there, so how am i suposed to know everything) chill out!

You should know the freakin adress of where you work
:rolleyes:

Listen, youve made the incredulous claim of swapping an RB26 into a 240 BY YOURSELF, at 16, and now you cant back it up.

Hey, what tranny did you use for the swap? RB26 or RB20?

You running single, or twin turbos? What size?

i didnt do the swap on my own, my brother in law helped me out (alot), well i got the 6 speed trany with it , it was already attached to the engine, and the whole rb26dett set-up was off a 1995 skyline r33, it was imported from japan, (the engine), the skyline was messed up, it was hit in the back really hard, i only have one turbo on the car, because with the second the engine wouldnt have fit,(unless i did alot of frame work which i didnt wanna spend time doing, and the single turbo on the engine still boosts alot but not much as the twin turbo would have, i upgraded to a TD05 turbo, i have two of them, (but im olny using one, if you wanna buy it ,tell me, and ill give you details, b-cus its a spare). well thats about it.

Hey, thats great to bad your a rotten liar.

The R33 came with a 5-speed. The R34 had a Getrag(aka GM) 6-speed.

Also, you cant use the RB26 trans, cuz its made for AWD. Gotta use the RB25 trans.

Owned.

haha this thread is all BS...

anyways, how much would a complete rb25 and rb26 swap be WITH LABOR???

i want to get it installed by a pro so i dont blow the engine up or anything

ok my bad... i just read it on http://240skyline.nissanpower.com/catalog.html

a $2250 difference???? 26 horsepower??? haha, the rb26 isn't worth it people.

rb25 is what im thinking about, how much would labor be? a cool couple grand?

:nutkick: yeah either this kid got owned or he should be beaten up for not deserving an RB26

dorikin.........check again ass hole cus the r33 GTR comes with a rb26 and a 6 speed gear box, your a dumb ass cus you probably just cheacked the cheaper r33 version.....

and also you can make a awd trands just hull the rear wheels, and my brother in law did just that om my car, why dont you go ask some others that did the swap they will tell ya what i told you

Originally posted by tokar400
and also you can make a awd trands just hull the rear wheels, and my brother in law did just that om my car, why dont you go ask some others that did the swap they will tell ya what i told you :spit: :lol:

Originally posted by tokar400
and also you can make a awd trands just hull the rear wheels, and my brother in law did just that om my car, why dont you go ask some others that did the swap they will tell ya what i told you

WTF??

BTW I check the Motorex/RB Motoring site. these guys sellin fuckin R33 GTRs for a living. Im pretty sure there more knowledgable than you.

ok jackass...(dorikin)...i know what i did to my car and i told you what i did, and what i have in it,.... race wars starts in st.louis tommorow. if i do good youll see my name and ride on nopi, i guess your just pissing me off.. so after race wars this weekend im never gonna talk about my car on af forums again..... cus all you jackasses think some 16 year old white guy cant even change an engine, ill tell you something, my dad retired from the gtr racing legue in europe he worked on the ferrari team for 3 years, he was a mechanic for them,(and that means i can gat a chance to get on a team,... and after that i moved to this gay country where everyone thinks nothing is possiable... and the point is............. you all just dont have faith.... if i ever make it on any gtr race teams ill remember your fagget ass name and ill make sure you get a rb26dett imprint on your face...dorikin....

I dont think you understand me.

You have provided ZERO evidence to prove me wrong. I cannot take your word for it, simply because there is so much BS on this forum. No one has ever heard of you, and your shop isnt listed ANYWHERE.

Therefore, I, and most other members automatically conclude your bullshitting.

Swapping an RB26 is one of the hardest swaps. Unstable rated it as "impossible" or something.

Your a 16 year old kid, with no konwledge(come on, you cant have been working on cars all 16 years of your life). You incorectly said your car has a 6-speed, when MOTOREX, the guys who SELL skylines for a living , say the GTR has a 5 speed. Its well known that the R34 was the FIRST GTR to have a 6-speed trans.

Just to use the tried and true ricer method. I checked Gran Turismo. Only 5 speeds on the R33?

Did you get a front clip? If so, whats the middle gauge on the dash?

What turbos came stock.

I hope you come back to answer my questions or gimme some evidence.

tokar400:

you say how am i supposed to know the address....you posted that it was 14204 manchester rd on the same side as sams. both are false....14204 is a workout place, and i stopped and asked at several places if they had ever herad of vasas performance.....they all said no. you answered a fairly easy question wrong, the r34 gtr only came with the 6 speed. the r33's did not. i'm doubting you because of all this.....post pictures, and people will apologize readily. just dont come on here thinkin your all hot shit, cause you cant talk the talk and not walk the walk...lol. and when i was at gateway i asked a few officials if they had ever seen a black s13 240sx with a skyline motor, and they laughed. i even asked to see the roster for am. drag racers.....nothin about a 240sx rb26dett. and just because your dad was a gtr racer and a mechanic for ferrari, doesnt mean you are instilled with all of his powers.

hes the one who ordered the engine, and i have been working on cars a 13, because in ukrane you can drive a 12, well i dont bull shit and whatever you have done or checked out it doesnt matter to me because i wanna see you face to face and show my 240 in your face then you will be speachless.....i hope you signed up for race wars at gateway, july 25-27.... if you did look for my car

Drive at 12...what bullshit. Im gonna go ask my friend, who moved here 6 months ago about that one.

Listen, you have zero credibility, cuz Between myself and ImportNut, we have found NOTHING, so for know, you are a total bullshitter.

Lucas-You should ask Obie if he's heard if this guy, if anyone knows, it will be him

Originally posted by tokar400
because in ukrane you can drive a 12
:biggrin: :biggrin:

:loser:

im ukie buddy.... dont mess with us. that driving at 12 stuff is complete BS

0wned. I was JUST about to PM you for confirmaion.

Dude, I was talking to my friend and he says Vasas is a Hungarian name..Whats the deal?

You said you were gonna get pics too.

Also, how many throttle bodies did your RB26 come with? And why are you running a TD05. How Big is the wheel? Is it a kit? TD05 is an odd turbo to run with a RB26.

LOL @ Racewars. Where is it? in the Desert? hahaha

your the biggest dumb ass cus i just came back from race wars to get a 150 shot, why dont you go to nopi.com and check reace wars yourself you dumb ass pounder.

dorikin....... its pretty sad..... how you use a video game to get your car info.... you must not have read the screen that pops up and says... that those cars and info is un accurate and mostly fictional.

Dude, dont you get it. I was mocking YOU (being the lying ricer) by checking Gran Turismo. Usually thats the be all and end all of ricers knowledge base.

I was reluctant to do it, but I figured maybe you would respect it.

That STILL doesnt change the fact the R33 didnt come with a damn 6-speed and you STILL havent answered my questions...Oh wait, because you will REALLY be owned if you get em wrong.

Listen kid, so far, you have NOTHING to go on. I suggest you provide evidence soon.

Maybe you have a psychological dis-order, where you actually belive this....

Originally posted by tokar400
your the biggest dumb ass cus i just came back from race wars to get a 150 shot, why dont you go to nopi.com and check reace wars yourself you dumb ass pounder.

Oh, ya, I should report that to the mods shouldnt I :)

150 shot on a Skyline? Puh-leez, someones been watching a lil to much 2f2F.

Mrs. Tokar, Sascha needs to go beddy-bye now...read him the bedtime story about the boy who lied about his car...

tokar man, your the "ass pounder", today is the 25th, race wars dont start till tomorrow. and yeah a tdo5 is kinda small for an rb26dett, and you never answered anyones questions about the turbo specs.

and i'm not goin to race wars cause i'm outta town....but i've got about a dozen buddies lookin for your car. hey, if you prove me wrong, i'll be the first to say i was a dumbass.....but until then, your the ass, because as far, you havent answered direct questions about stuff, and have been wrong about a few things.

Ok, lets consolidate everything here.

You claim you swapped it yourself, then your dad helped you.
You claim to have a 6-speed, when its WIDELY known R33s have a 5'er
You have Provided ZERO photp evidence
No one in the St.Louis 240 community has heard of your shop
Driving at age 12 is a lie
Lucas couldnt find your shop
Myself and Lucas couldnt find your shop on Mapquest
Racewars it tommorow(Why the fuck would it be on friday???)
Any question I sent you, that could vindicate you, but its a question only SOMEONE with an Rb26 Would know, has gone un-answered
Lucas asked at Gateway if anyones heard of you: No one has
Your not on the roster


So lets see...Myself&Lucas&Other Doubters:12
You: 0

You can either give us some evidence, and prove us wrong, or get outta here. Havent you heard of leaving with dignity.

If you can provide evidence that proves its your car, I will put, in large letters, in my sig: TOKAR OWNZ ME

I DONT wana see pics of other peoples RB26 powered cars, cuz I have them saved, and other people have them saved, and we can easily match them up.

The onus is on YOU, know tokar. Face up. If you admit you are wrong, and admit you have lied, you will get off scot free. I gaurentee. Take your pick.

1 more question. How THE HELL can you run one SINGLE TD05??? Do you know how small it is?? And your making 310 at the flywheel?

Assuming you have a "6 speed", you would be making 263.5 rwhp(15% loss)

If you have a 5 speed, youll make 279rwhp.

That STILL doesnt work out: I belive the GTR uses 2 T25s, and then, an R33 still makes 280hp.

A TD05, assuming it has like, a 16G wheel(ala DSM cars), is prob. smaller, so you would prob. be making LESS hp.

Unfortuately, my knowledge of the TD-series turbos is limited.

Pop Quiz Tokar-who makes AND sells the TD series turbines? Its 2 seperate companies.

Originally posted by tokar400
your the biggest dumb ass cus i just came back from race wars to get a 150 shot, why dont you go to nopi.com and check reace wars yourself you dumb ass pounder.


just came back from racewars to get a 150 shot... of nitrous... on a skyline... right... i dont care about you BSing about the car but thats crossing a line.

Great sig R.W. 240

Im hoping to add this to my list of ownages, in my sig.

Its better cuz he puts up such a fight. I wonder if he REALLY belives that he has the car lol

Greddy

greddy makes td turbos..

ok...... Darikin OWNS ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, i tried to keep this huge lie up because i wanted to get more posts to not be a af newbie.... well youve got me. i dont own a 240 but i do have a 300zxtt i dont know if all of you are gonna lose respect for me or whatever i just wanted to get more posts up, because if you put up a big lie people are gonna wanna figure it out and obiously you did...................DRNIKIN OWNZ ME!!!!! DARIKIN OWNZ ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! add me to your ownage list!!!!........i got nothing else to say on this subject.

lets forget this thread full of lies

haha, forget this thread..

its gonna be in dorikin's sig now. LOL




u fuckin suck d00d.

WHERE THE F#CK DID THIS F#CKIN RASH of idiots come from?!?! I thought the dirty dawgs mockery was a rare event. Then this bullshit!? Thats a great excuse. "I wanted to get my posts up" A moderator should ban this m0therf#cker. I guess its hard because this is such a huge site. This sH1t is called "waste of bandwith" On a lot of the other Nissan forums, this kid would have been hunted down and strung up by his tongue. Or at the least banned. I am behind everyone who is against the ricer invasion on the 240 scene. Stick to your civics and cavaliers. I saw the other day, some other moron driving around in a stock height, chrome wheels, 95 240 with a sticker on his rear quarter window. Guess what it said. "DRIFTERS" F#ck man, just because people use 240s to drift, and the scene sees 240s as drift cars, just because you own one does not make you a drifter. I'm going to see that kid one day and ask him to go through the steps of a "drift" with me. If he's a poser, he'll be laughed at and ridiculed. (what, you thought I wanted to beat him down):icon16: :iceslolan F#CKIN MORONS...

wonder what happened to the guy who asked me how I got my car so low. I told him I cut my springs. Yep I chopped off three coils in the front and four in the rear. (89 s13):loser:

Victory is MINE!!

Actually, it was a team effort.

Tokar-it doesnt matter if your a newb, as long as you got something intelligent to say.

This is goin in the list....

Add this one to your sigs if you feel like it guys!

P.S.

BIG thanks to lucas, for checking out all the potential sites. You rock!

hha I read this thread just cause it was on the ownage sig LOL!!!!

holy shit balls who cares what u drive, I drive a ford now.... hehe

FWD too...

:spit: :eek7:

:1:

well i've heard a lot bout both engines and tuning both but i hear far more bout the sr20 bout it being strong anf handling more power.

hah, well at least you admited it tokar. thanks to doriken for the "investigation"...lol. i'm pissed cause i had to drive all the way from the city out to manchester :thefinger haha, no matter really. anyway, this is gonna go in my sig too.


also, there isnt such a thing as the sr25det. i'm guessin you mean RB, and as far as power goes, the RB can handle upwards of 500-550 on stock internals.

WTF?? Guys are you on crack? Of course theres an SR25DET. I have one in my car...morons

yeah i changed my sig because the plural version of ownage didnt look right.


what the hell did he expect by explaining it "wanted to get your posts up? oh, ok thats cool" what an idiot and i still think he should be beaten with a hose for even talking about putting A 150 SHOT A NAAWWZZ on a RB26.

Word.

This is the WORST way to get your posts up. I hope he never comes back.

OMG what a loser.

I've got an RB28DETTTT (yes...4 turbos) with a 7 speed seqiential tranny. This engine came off of Japan's only S17 (never made it to production). I bought it from a guy selling peanuts on the corner. His name is fred

HAHHA but I got an LS1 VTEC Quad Turbo beeyatch!

Welcome to the forums...I can tell you and I will get along just fine...:D

hey, there is an LS1 with 4 turbos.

it has 2000 hp, and its in a 2003 drag camaro :bigthumb:

it doesnt have vtec like j00rs but it has a button where u press it to engage secondary turbos..

launches in first, wheelies in second (when button is pushed)..


LOL.. im not joking either.

this just makes me sad, him saying he owns a 300zxtt, and me owning a 300zx, ill have to keep an eye out and make sure hes not bsing on our forums either. he probably doesnt even own a 300zx, prolly a really old civic made to look like the ones in the fast and the furious :biggrin:
im still a pretty big fan of s13's, if i could have found one for a good price around me, i probalby would have bought it and done quite a bit of work on it, if i dont do the work im thinking i will on my Z, ill definately buy a s13 and do a swap.

get a jdm fairlady clip and drop that biatch in your Z..... they aren't in such high demand that = less jacked up price i think they are cheaper than $2500 from venis

that = kick ass Z

Which motor you choose is totally depended on what kind of car you have, the sr20 is a 4 banger and the rb25det is a inline six, if you car can't fit it then you can't use it, I have a 94 integra and I want to put a rb26dett in it, but that'll take some massive modification and some massive amounts of money, so if you have the money go for the rb25det, but you'll have to modify your engine bay if you can't fit it. I'd go with the sr20det, just to have an engine around the same size as my current one. what's .2 litres' here or there? lol

Originally posted by NismoS13
get a jdm fairlady clip and drop that biatch in your Z..... they aren't in such high demand that = less jacked up price i think they are cheaper than $2500 from venis

that = kick ass Z

Uhh...why?? Both use freakin VG30DETT, and the turbos are BIGGER on the USDM versions.