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What is the best motor for my hatchback?


DONTNO
03-23-2004, 10:10 PM
I'm going to buy a hatchback and my friends are telling me gsr motor and turbo. Don't really have a clue? Is there anything faster?

SiGNAL748
03-23-2004, 11:14 PM
k20a or h22a would be faster, but would cost a lot more.

a b16a/b or b18c1/5 should do you well.

Jszy
03-24-2004, 01:04 AM
If you have the money and your looking for speed drop a b18c5 into it. That'll make your hatch preeetty fucking quick.

madmaxEKhatchB18C5
03-24-2004, 08:43 AM
i'm a month away now from the B18C5 route....deposit made already.....perfect for what i want....a damn fast daily driver.....but wouldn't this guy get much more HP if he went the GSR route with turbo or super charger??......all motor is sweet though.....mc

DONTNO
03-24-2004, 06:45 PM
Thanks for all the good Ideas, I'm going to start compairing right now but is there not 1 that is the fastest...I'm going to gut it out and just make it as fast as I can. So is the b18c the best?

Ace$nyper
03-24-2004, 07:19 PM
WOW this is stupid all these noobs telling each other whats better its like hey blind man!!! whats that look like!

projectsilvia97
03-24-2004, 07:33 PM
i would suggest a scooter engine. it's a direct bolt in and you don't even have to worry about any wiring harness, you don't even need an ecu. it's just plug in and play.

SenseiAccord
03-29-2004, 02:07 AM
...h22a would be faster....

IMO, never put an h22 in a civic or integra. Not worth it. Gotta get custom mounts and it will make ur car too front heavy. H22 is supposedly 300 lbs heavier than a b series. That added extra weight in the front makes it very dangerous for high speed. Get too much oversteer and may cause ur car to oversteer too much on a small turn and lose control and even crash. Its only good u are doing the 1/4m since u are just going straight. Stick with the b series for civics/integras. H series are only for preludes, accords and CLs.

For ur civic HB i'd go w/ a GSR (b18c1) or CTR (b16) motor. IMO, the ITR (b18c5) isnt worth it. its really expensive for its characteristics. But if u got a lot of money then go with the ITR.

projectsilvia97
03-29-2004, 10:09 AM
IMO, never put an h22 in a civic or integra. Not worth it. Gotta get custom mounts and it will make ur car too front heavy.


O really, wow, that's interesting. cuz i just found these mounts, but they are probably custom because you said that, and you or so knowledgable.

http://hasport.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=63

projectsilvia97
03-29-2004, 10:10 AM
o look, some more!

http://hasport.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=36
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T!mmy
03-29-2004, 10:58 AM
I think that's what I want to do (H22A swap into my 98 Civic) It would be bitching fast and I dont plan on auto crossing or anything so...just a daily driver and my races will be straight. Although how is the h22 for turbo? I would like to turbo it eventually. I'm just trying to decide between H22A and B18C1. Can anyone compare the two?

Thanks

projectsilvia97
03-29-2004, 12:16 PM
I think that's what I want to do (H22A swap into my 98 Civic) It would be bitching fast and I dont plan on auto crossing or anything so...just a daily driver and my races will be straight. Although how is the h22 for turbo? I would like to turbo it eventually. I'm just trying to decide between H22A and B18C1. Can anyone compare the two?

Thanks

the h22 basically has 0.4 more liters of displacement, a lot more torque. they have the same compression ratio of 10.6. the h22 has 200 horses, and 161 lb ft of torque. the b18c has 180 horses and 126 lb ft of torque. these engines that i am referring to are the jdm ones. hope that helped.

Ricochet
03-29-2004, 05:30 PM
B18C1 (GSR) swap will be the best for cost, speed, and all around handling. If you turbo one of these motors and tune it correctly, you will have one badass car.

DeleriousZ
03-29-2004, 06:14 PM
I think that's what I want to do (H22A swap into my 98 Civic) It would be bitching fast and I dont plan on auto crossing or anything so...just a daily driver and my races will be straight. Although how is the h22 for turbo? I would like to turbo it eventually. I'm just trying to decide between H22A and B18C1. Can anyone compare the two?

Thanks

if you're going to go turbo, and don't want to do any internal work, go with the b18c1, it has been said that the h22 has weak internals.. besides, the b18c1 swap will be easier to do. if you are willing to drop the cash for internals, and you plan on drag, you might want to look into the h22.. if i were you i would stick with the b18c1

boosted331
03-29-2004, 09:12 PM
If you're going turbo, go GSR. If you're going all out, built motor turbo, go GSR. If you're going N/A, go GSR. If you're going all out built motor N/A, go GSR.

The GSR is way cheaper than the ITR motor, which means more money in aftermarket parts to make it faster than the ITR when N/A, and it's better suited to turbo. The only thing the ITR has on the GSR is better gearing.

DeleriousZ
03-29-2004, 09:15 PM
you can't get an itr tranny to fit on a gsr engine can you?

SenseiAccord
03-31-2004, 02:46 AM
O really, wow, that's interesting. cuz i just found these mounts, but they are probably custom because you said that, and you or so knowledgable.

http://hasport.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=63

oh yea cuz the h22 was built and designed to be in a civic. if u go with a b-series swap for ur civic, u can save money from buying a H series motor mounts. You will also probably make life a lil more safer and make ur car lighter. You can also save gas since i think b-series use less gas haha. There is a reason why u dont see many cars with an H-series swap in a civic and more ppl using a b-series swap. I kno the H-series engine is pretty cheap on the markey but dont let the price fool u since it isnt an engine designed for ur car. I would just get the GSR swap.

SiGNAL748
03-31-2004, 05:38 PM
i dunno about you guys...but i'd get the k20

SenseiAccord
04-01-2004, 03:26 AM
i dunno about you guys...but i'd get the k20

is that the new RSX/Si motor? Those are pretty good. 160 hp right? dont kno much about them but since it is already in a civic... try go for em. 2.0 liter engine? got the displacement for torque.

SiGNAL748
04-01-2004, 05:41 PM
i'm talking about the jdm k20a (type-r)

220hp @ 8000
152 lb-ft @ 7000

basically the power of jdm h22 type-s, without the disadvantage of weight. Plus...you get 6 spd w/lsd :naughty:

liquidflame8
04-01-2004, 11:55 PM
i'm talking about the jdm k20a (type-r)

220hp @ 8000
152 lb-ft @ 7000

basically the power of jdm h22 type-s, without the disadvantage of weight. Plus...you get 6 spd w/lsd :naughty:
get one then. if you want to spend over 6k to have that motor be my guest. unnecessary in my eyes. if you were going to put over 6k into a motor it would be better to get a gsr and put 3k+ into it. unless you just want to be different or something. turboing the gsr would be a hell of a lot faster than the stock k20 type r motor

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