do something about that limiter!!!

yea man.... i need to. i hit 130 too fast.

yea man.... i need to. i hit 130 too fast.
you poor baby
LOL
good kill man!

130mph in a LS1 is nothing... he was just getting started. ;)

I bet, within a second or two he would of sailed right past you with big gulp from 7/11 in hand. :grinno:

Good race, I'm not a huge fan of roll on races... it's hard to get both people know when to go. Unless you agree on a honking thing or hand signals.

I agree, I don't see how a stock turbo sr20 is going to waiste a LS1(with that turbo completely maxed out you still are not going to be making more then about 265rwhp......, especially on the highway those things are beasts above 100...

I also have seen videos of a supercharged even, maxima like your old one racing LS1 f bodies and they waisted the max VERY badly, way worse then 2 car lengths and this guy even had a supercharged maxima(it was pretty fast he waisted some mustangs[is that fast?] but the chevy's laid the law down on him)....these new fuel injected 350's are nothing to take lightly, they get up and go
:iceslolan

those are modded ls1's... they are nowhere near stock.

i bet my ass on it that this ss was completely stock. and yes, 265whp would be enough to beat him, im weighing about 2300 lbs.

finally had a witness post! fly will see it tonight, maybe go for a ride in it (weather permitting). i want to get his opinion.

those are modded ls1's... they are nowhere near stock.

i bet my ass on it that this ss was completely stock. and yes, 265whp would be enough to beat him, im weighing about 2300 lbs.



What have you done to lighten your 240?

Oh, and btw, it was a V6 Camaro with an SS hood :screwy:

he didn't say it was a v6...
he said it may have been an 01 based on the sheetmetal...
meaning, based on *what he knows about the body style* it was probably an 01.

i'll let you guys know just how quick it is tonight...

wow a stock T25 SR20det can make up to 265whp? holy shit i thought it was already an already an accomplishment if they even made 240whp. wow if all SR's can make soo much power on the stock turbo i should've swaped the motor then, lolz. i mean on average i see them putting down anywhere from 220-240 whp on the T25 with full bolt ons running full boost (14-16 psi ) and tuned to make gthat kind of pwoer, now it jumped up another 25whp? wow ( i'm being really skeptical here ) i'm more of a realistic kind of guy an tend not to beleive in manufacturers bullshit claims.

i know a few people who put 300hp to the crank on the t25. at that point its completely maxed out....... then you need to upgrade turbo.

someone i know with an s14 is putting out numbers like 330whp with upgraded turbo and injectors. its stick.... but yea, most you can do at stock turbo is around 300 crank hp. i believe just about at that point the injectors are completely maxed.


but yes tat, i am hoping to put just about much power to the wheels, if not more, than your turbo :) wish me luck. i can up boost a lil more (14psi) due to the different compression numbers and stronger internals. i believe you can put out 400hp on stock internals.

weight reduction:
base model -50 lbs
hawker g13ep 11lb battery -40 lbs
spare removed -50 lbs
back rear gutted -40 lbs
a/c removed -35 lbs
front bumper support removed -35 lbs
stock weight with sr20: 2535 lbs
current weight: 2285 lbs

im in hi 13s just with my weight reduction.... mid 13s with my present mods at stock boost. once i up boost and get some traction i should really be moving.

fly i'll have to meet up with you sometime this week. my front lugs got screwed up and my whole wheels almost fell off when i left for quaker, they were wobbling all over the place. im getting it fixed monday/tuesday, hopefully its not something serious.

Damn, your sr20 sounds so damn exciting. Are you planning on dyno soon? That way you'll shut up all the skepticism.

damn thats alot of weight taken off. but i would never take the a/c out. it would be ridiculous in traffic in the summer. plus i want my car to be comfortable. so i guess i miss out on taking out the weight. your car weights close to being 600 lbs less then me. and all i can say is damn if you can make your car that light.

If I drop a SR20DET into my car, it'd be about 2000lbs... when cars get that light... woo scare me. :lol:

If I drop a SR20DET into my car, it'd be about 2000lbs... when cars get that light... woo scare me. :lol:
yea, but whose car would handle better :p

yea my car is pretty light. i bet if i raced tat i'd take him out

im still planning a couple weight reductions... that's another reason why i don't want to get a body kit unless its carbon fiber. i want to get it in the 2100-lb arena, i know i can if i try hard enough. you know they make carbon fiber hatches now :iceslolan

i'm going for a dyno right after my afc comes (i need to order it today). there's a dyno spot that tunes and tests your car until it can't possibly get any higher. the s14 i know got in 48 dyno runs for $100 and put out 270whp.

i'll post here once it's up. and i'll definately see jon april 3, if not sooner, for that columbus nissan meet. by then i'll be upping boost already :biggrin: i want to take out that skyline

Ah, so you haven't gotten into the serious weight reduction yet. That's a good thing, leaves more room for improvement!

My 924 weighs in around 2450 stock, I've taken a fair bit of weight out of it, like the air conditioning, rear seats, replaced my front Recaros with seats from a first generation RX7 that weigh about half as much, took out 80lbs of sound deadening, a 30lb mat in the trunk, etc. I think I'm sitting around 2200lbs right now, but I won't know for sure until I weigh it. I haven't even gotten into the fiberglass and aluminum yet either :naughty:

I must say though, I'm a bit skeptical of making 300hp from a stock T25. I think that's about the limit of the ball bearing T28 unit in the S15.

To make 300hp, you need to flow about 32lbs of air, which is getting near the limits of what a T28 can flow. Most T25s run out of breath around 24lbs of air, around 210-220hp.

yea, but whose car would handle better :p



My car stock in 1971 could turn a .80g on the Skidpad with the optional mag wheels and tires. With my performance tires, wheels, and my lowered suspension I guess I'll be pulling about .83-.85g.

Pretty soon I should be ordering Tokico 5 way adjustibles, sway bars, urethane bushings, and strut bars.

Let's not forget my car is lighter as it sits now, with the SR swap in mine it'll be even lighter. And that's with full interior, there's alot I can get rid off. ;)


Stock 240sx turns a .82g-.89g depending on model. So yeah, They'll be about even... but I'll always be faster. :evillol: (If I motor swap.)

if you motor swap....

;)

Good Kill,
Sounds like a fun race. With that power 2 weight ratio sounds like you can surprise quite a few cars on the road.

yea, but whose car would handle better :p

yea my car is pretty light. i bet if i raced tat i'd take him out



cough BS

did you weigh your car? I think its pretty much impossible to take off that much weight with the mods you have. Seriously A/c and bumper supports don't weigh that much, neither does a small baterry in an import car. If you put it on a scale Id bet at the least your car is 2500lbs. if you all raced Id put money on the KA, it should waiste your lightly modded SR with the stock turbo no problem.

Your probably in the 14 second 1/4 mile times. Can't forget you have stock suspension, stock sized shitty tires, open Differential... its not really that fast, When you start upgrading your drivetrain to be able to use more of the power it will launch a lot better and you will get more kills. No point in putting on horsepower mods if the chassis and drivetrain already can not handle the power going to the ground. Sounds once again that you are modding a car the wrong way.

well...
to clarify...
at the nissan meeet this weekend, there was a car IDENTICAL to mark's 240sx, same swap, same power adders... but a full interior.

and that guy was running low 13's with his car...

his only mod other than mark's was an LSD, which, i admit, will make a difference, but i'm pretty sure mynismo has one on order...

but regardless, from a roll, his car is easily a low 13's car, or 12's.
i saw it, and it's hella stripped.

more fun facts:
the "twin" to mynismo's car had hicas as well, which is a HEAVY option...
it had full power everything, which adds up.

so mark's car is EASILY low 13's, realistically, i'll say 12's.

take it for what it's worth, but since none of you have seen his car, or heard from the other owner of the twin, you're a bunch of speculators.

wow then i must say damn. thats pretty quick for running only 10 psi. yes i know that S13 are around 100 lbs lighter then a S14. but i mean come on unless they run the full 16 psi possible on that T25 i don't see how they can possibly have the power to run a 12 like you say. unless like i said they're running 16 psi and is maxing out the turbo for a few runs then yes i see a low 13 possible. and i agree with SR20DETPower. mynismos 240 should weight 2400lbs ( the least it can possibly weight ) not 2200lbs.

S13 weights around 2700 lbs

light weight battery ( save 15 lbs tops )
bumper support ( save 10 lbs )
a/c compressor ( 30 lbs tops )
rear seats ( those foam things weights like 5 lbs )
carpet ( 10 lbs tops )
door panels ( they weight like 10 lbs each, and thats on a S14 with larger panels, so 20 lbs total )
spare tire ( thats like 20 lbs )

so the total weight taken out would be 110lbs and thats me being really lenlient on it. i know how much they approximately weight because i have personally taken them out myself ( for repairs )

so 2700 minus 110lbs is still 2590 lbs. and like i said i will be even nicer and give him 2400lbs which is even less likely cause that is 190 lbs magically disappearing. which is still a whole 200 lbs off from the expected 2200lbs that mynismo was thinking he did.

from history not to dog on mynismo but he always overestimates his car. i remember when he had that automatic S13 and he thougth he was well in 15's and with a auto swap he thought he would be in 14's. well of course no one beleived him. and when he finally went to the track he ran 17's. i'm sorry mynismo, but unless you weight your car i doubt your car weights that little. i'm quit the opposite. haha i underestimate my car i think my car weights over 3000lbs with all the tools i got in the trunk. but for you to run 13's i don't doubt that one bit because there are quit a few that can run that time. i just doubt the weight issue

ya man.. lets see some figures.

well, without him backing himself, i'll do it somewhat.

the IDENTICAL car/setup, as i noted, with far more weight, ran low 13's. the only difference was the LSD.

so with approximately 150-200 less lbs. on the car, it should be faster, or at least the same without an LSD.

that's all i can tell you. but the other 240sx was running an IDENTICAL setup, save for the weight and LSD.

well, without him backing himself, i'll do it somewhat.

the IDENTICAL car/setup, as i noted, with far more weight, ran low 13's. the only difference was the LSD.

so with approximately 150-200 less lbs. on the car, it should be faster, or at least the same without an LSD.

that's all i can tell you. but the other 240sx was running an IDENTICAL setup, save for the weight and LSD.

i am not doubting the times. i'm just doubting the weight issue. anyways how many psi is mynismo running? or the other guy mark to achieve those times?

mark is mynismo...
from what i understood, they're both running the same setup, down to the boost level...
but i don't know what that is, so i couldn't tell you for sure.

im in hi 13s just with my weight reduction.... mid 13s with my present mods at stock boost. once i up boost and get some traction i should really be moving.

im not tryin to be an asshole but stock ls1s run mid 13s stock or better with a good driver.... did you say the ls1 you race was modded?

well, without him backing himself, i'll do it somewhat.

the IDENTICAL car/setup, as i noted, with far more weight, ran low 13's. the only difference was the LSD.

so with approximately 150-200 less lbs. on the car, it should be faster, or at least the same without an LSD.

that's all i can tell you. but the other 240sx was running an IDENTICAL setup, save for the weight and LSD.


yeah I think a LS1 camaro will waiste the shit out of it, especially on the top end thats where those things pull HARD. and LSD makes a BIG difference. My brother was running his impala and could only pull off a 16.2 with the worn out differential. He installed a new performance differential and ran a 14.2....makes a HUGE difference. In a drag race if you can't launch real hard you will get a slow time. The launch makes a huge difference in the overall time. Instead of getting what u plan on next, like your ricer gay orange paint, or body kit... Why don't u get a clutch/differential/wheels/tires..... would make it a lot nicer to drive and you will smoke people off the line much better.

My brother was running his impala and could only pull off a 16.2 with the worn out differential. He installed a new performance differential and ran a 14.2

:bs: I think your brother probably just learned how to drive better. Your trying to get us to believe he dropped 2 WHOLE seconds with JUST lsd?

Wow Nismo_Gizmo is a total idiot....

are you referring to mynismo, or who are you talking about?

i don't know that he's ever coming back here b/c of the BS that happened to him last week, but hey... that's his problem.

you guys are sitting here running your mouths, and i tell you of an IDENTICAL car, IDENTICAL setup, but heavier/LSD equipped and running 13's...

so if mynismo raced from a roll, in a car that's lighter than the 13 second car, why is it hard to believe that he'd be able to run in the same range? (not from a dig, from a roll)...

you guys could just give it up, b/c he's not coming back

:bs: I think your brother probably just learned how to drive better. Your trying to get us to believe he dropped 2 WHOLE seconds with JUST lsd?

yup and its the honest truth. Hes an older guy not like some 15 year old who just got his liscense. He knows how to drive his car. The times he was getting were already with I/H/E on there, after he installed the new rear end he went out the next weekend and didn't try any different launch technique, he ran that 14 the very first pass.

I forgot to mention its not just a LSD, at the same time he also bought new axels and a 3:73 rear gear up from the stock ratio. Those parts do not make up the majority of the difference of time slips. its not like any HP was added between these runs, having good traction really makes that much of a difference when most of your mods are of the bolt on variety on a v8 car with a worn out differential.

on a car say like a 160hp Civic Si with 100lbs of torque traction does not make as much of a difference as it would on a car with 330lbs of torque because of the power increase makes it easier to spin the tires. Thats not to say a 160hp Civic can't smoke the tires off the line, but thats mainly due to a bad launch technique more then anything else.