But now it's illegal just to cruise around for no reason? :disappoin

Such total BS (http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=4&article_id=7886&page_number=1)

Wow hilter would be proud. Thats some fucked up shit and i personlay would like to crap on that town hall and then use that law as tp.

I've heard on some beaches you're not allowed to pass the same place twice within 30 minutes.. wtf is happening to this country.

Amerika. Tovarisch, comrade Ricochet.

Jesus. America invented cruising. What's next? Making it illegal for us to walk into dark alleys, as bad things can happen?

I think this belongs in the Political forum, so I am making a copy of this in there, and allow you guys to discuss this further in here, also.

ummm, riiiiight. i have nothing else to say.

As I responded in the political and current events forum. The premise for the story began prior to 1991. Consider that when deciding how wide spread of an issue this is.

Is the statute dumb? It looks like it to me.

Is it something thats enforced? I've never gotten pulled over for it in the 20+ years I've been driving. Judge for yourself and your area.

what areas does this shitty ass rule apply to?

Ridiculous. Fortunately, I doubt it's widely enforced.

Is it something thats enforced? I've never gotten pulled over for it in the 20+ years I've been driving. Judge for yourself and your area.
Just knowing it's going on in this country is bad enough though..

We have that law here in Utah specifically in Salt Lake on State ST. they have signs posted the hours you can't ccruise are between 11pm and 4AM it is not enforced AT ALL duing the week, but on weekends the copst setup check points and stop every car and get its info so that they can cite you if you pass the check points too many timesit's a real pain in the ass, also in Salt Lake it is illegal to modify your car's exhaust in any way.

We have that law here in Utah specifically in Salt Lake on State ST. they have signs posted the hours you can't ccruise are between 11pm and 4AM it is not enforced AT ALL duing the week, but on weekends the copst setup check points and stop every car and get its info so that they can cite you if you pass the check points too many timesit's a real pain in the ass, also in Salt Lake it is illegal to modify your car's exhaust in any way.

Wow, that really sucks. We have no such restrictions here in North Carolina; none that are enforced, at least. Sweet Mustang, by the way.

I heard that too. i was reading my car and driver and saw an anti crusing law. Its designed to keep teen (drug inducers sellers) off of the road to sell there shit. but now cops are starting to get middle aged and all other sorts of people just havin a good time flashin their car. What can we do eh? (hail hitler) :thefinger :thefinger

bullshit rule.

i read that same thing and felt the same way that you guys do. these situations are the exact reason that i plan on making it through law school and fighting against stuff like this.

if that isnt bullshit enough for you... friend of mine recently got pulled over in his small, quaint little central ohio town for 'not properly clearing his back windshield of ice.' he wasnt speeding, swerving, following all federally/locally mandated laws...he was just pulled over for not clearing all of the fucking ice off of his window. cost him $85. he has no points on his lisence, and he is a perfect driver.

i would really like to know if this is even possible for a police officer to write a ticket for this. if so, i am thinking of thousands of violations...semis dont even have rear windows, nor do moving vans/some work trucks, what about people sitting in the back seat...should there be a height requirment to eliminate obstructions? also what about the metal grating/mesh in between the front and back seats of police cruisers isnt that pretty damn restricting to eyesight?

sorry to incept this thread but i thought that this story was relevant...what is the problem with laws/officers/the government in general. it seems as if, especially on american roads, there are more racial, profile, age, gender, steriotypical...etc. problems that happen day in and day out and the common citizen cant do shit about it. not unless they fork out thousands upon thousands to legally protect themselves...sounds like bullshit to me. so im in the process of trying to do something about it.

Here in Cali I have gotten stopped for "cruising" a few times when I had my camaro, more irritating then anything else. I think if I ever got a ticker for cruising again Iw ould fight it to the death

Wow, that really sucks. We have no such restrictions here in North Carolina; none that are enforced, at least. Sweet Mustang, by the way.

Youre in NC, eh? Im in johnston county...anywho...What laws does NC have that pertain to automotive performance or whatever? i know they just recently started obd2 testing in a handful of counties...

Youre in NC, eh? Im in johnston county...anywho...What laws does NC have that pertain to automotive performance or whatever? i know they just recently started obd2 testing in a handful of counties...

I'm in Chapel Hill at UNC...but honestly, I'm not up to date on automotive regulations for our state. I haven't had a car since last August, so I've had no reason to pay attention to new regs. I wouldn't be suprised if OBD2 testing becomes statewide in the near future.

i say we all get cocked, and set shit on fire in a massive protest.. whos in?

from my experience here in rochester ny, i've never been bothered by cops for cruising.. in fact theres a main street here in my town that i drive up and down all day.. For one it is against the law for a officer to follow you for more than 2 miles.. so unless they followed you around how would they know you keep doing the same thing.. besides, don't these donut eating cocks have better shit to do then bother ppl that drive around for fun? This country sucks cock, you can't even take a shit without someone looking up your ass with a flashlight. fuck the police as rage so brilliantly stated in their song lol

This country sucks cock

Because of one law against crusing that's hardly enforced? We're allowed an unprecedented amount of freedom in this country. In most cases (this one being an exception) we're restricted only from those activities that could harm others. In England, newspapers can't print anything without being sued for libel. France prohibits expression of religous affiliation in an effort to promote a secular, unified population. These countries are most closely associated with ours, and yet we're allowed freedoms that they wouldn't even consider. That's not to say that the US doesn't have it's own problems and faults. It certainly does. But be grateful for the everyday priviledges that we often take for granted.

yea, but if no one speaks up when things change then soon we won't be free.. I believe in controlling the masses.. other wise we'd all be killing eachother and there would be caios, but we have to draw the line somewhere.. come on a law against driving around.. thats makes me wanna convert to sign language and jerk my dick while i say fuck that bullshit... some uptight politician has too much time on their hands.. just fire the fucker and give me back my taxes that pay his salary for crist sake...

Because of one law against crusing that's hardly enforced? We're allowed an unprecedented amount of freedom in this country. In most cases (this one being an exception) we're restricted only from those activities that could harm others. In England, newspapers can't print anything without being sued for libel. France prohibits expression of religous affiliation in an effort to promote a secular, unified population. These countries are most closely associated with ours, and yet we're allowed freedoms that they wouldn't even consider. That's not to say that the US doesn't have it's own problems and faults. It certainly does. But be grateful for the everyday priviledges that we often take for granted.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had a problem with the suppression of human beings on the basis of race.

dont compare our country with others. if were so great as you put it, we wouldnt bother ourselves with the 'meaningless agendas' of 'less fortunate' countries. i mean, F-it man id rather live in a country where i know im getting screwed over rather than one where im told im free.

and its not the point that the cruising law is rarely enforced, its the fact that it can be enforced. and it can be enforced whenever and whereever any law enforcement officer pleases. so have fun defending something that has no backbone to support it in the first place. like i said earlier, im going to law school and one by one im going to defend people from "offences" like this.

yea, but if no one speaks up when things change then soon we won't be free.. I believe in controlling the masses.. other wise we'd all be killing eachother and there would be caios, but we have to draw the line somewhere.. come on a law against driving around.. thats makes me wanna convert to sign language and jerk my dick while i say fuck that bullshit... some uptight politician has too much time on their hands.. just fire the fucker and give me back my taxes that pay his salary for crist sake...

I agree that the cruising law is a load of BS, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that one fairly trivial law means that "this country sucks cock." As I stated in my previous post, we're ordinarily restricted only from those activities that could harm others. This law is a ridiculous exception. Unless you're on some kind of drug or you're just a REALLY bad driver, simply cruising around to appreciate the joys of driving in no way harms other people. In my opinon, it's enforcement (or lack thereof) is a feeble attempt by police to maintain a status quo for arrests. In such cases, as you suggest, speaking out against a law that one deems unjust is completely necessary, and fortunately, we're allowed to voice our opinions in this country without fear of punishment.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had a problem with the suppression of human beings on the basis of race.

dont compare our country with others. if were so great as you put it, we wouldnt bother ourselves with the 'meaningless agendas' of 'less fortunate' countries. i mean, F-it man id rather live in a country where i know im getting screwed over rather than one where im told im free.

and its not the point that the cruising law is rarely enforced, its the fact that it can be enforced. and it can be enforced whenever and whereever any law enforcement officer pleases. so have fun defending something that has no backbone to support it in the first place. like i said earlier, im going to law school and one by one im going to defend people from "offences" like this.

First, we compare our country with others in the hope of mutual improvement. Every country has its problems, and as previously noted, we certainly have our own. England, France, and virtually every other country has certain politcal, social, and economic characteristics from which the US can learn, and vice versa. Improvement is a two-way street.

Second, I don't really understand this argument: "if were so great as you put it, we wouldnt bother ourselves with the 'meaningless agendas' of 'less fortunate' countries." Not only did I never even use the word "great" in my initial post, but I also never remotely indicated that the agendas of less fortunate countries are "meaningless." We concern ourselves with other countries because, as a politically powerfully place of relative wealth and prosperity, we have a moral obligation to help those countries that are less fortunate. Such an obligation goes hand-in-hand with the quest for mutual improvement that I referred to earlier. You seem to suggest that a "great" country has no interest in and no use for less fortunate countries. No matter how powerful a country may be, today's global economy and political arena demand attention to even the least-infuential of countries.

Lastly, I never said that I support or defend the cruising law. Please avoid sweeping, false generalizations about someone's statements until you read more closely. In my opinion, the cruising law is an inconsequential, largely antagonistc policy that was instituted to keep law enforcement busy, and I believe that one has a right (and in some cases, a duty) to speak out against such policies. My original point, however, was that the existence of one scantily-enforced cruising policy does not mean that this country sucks cock, and I stand by that opinion.

for the most part, i agree with you. but i have a BIG problem with promulgating laws, no matter how insignificant, which are not justified/fair/needed/insert any word here. Thats a problem. as americans, were entirely too nationalistic, not patriotic, but nationalistic. generally speaking, we think our country is the best, maybe not you in particular, but the vast majority of americans.

this is exactly the reason i dont mind hearing people say things like "this country sucks dick." in fact, it in a sense makes me feel a bit better. other people care that these laws are made, and enforced at will. hopefully the same individuals who say that this country sucks dick will be the same individuals to do something about their feelings. as i said MLK, in one way or another felt that this country was corrupt in a few aspects and he DID something. granted he didnt light things on fire, or even talk about something "sucking dick" but he made things happen. im simply saying that there is parrallels.

in a general interest for the perfection of this country (which seems relatively impossible) this attitude must exist.

no hard feelings, i like your points, im sorry if i misquoted/misread you.

I understand your position, and I agree that nationalism tends to run rampant these days. Patriotism implies pride in one's country, whereas nationalism involves exclusivity and hostility towards other countries, a sentiment with which I totally disagree. I also understand what you're saying about the necessity of those who say that "this country sucks dick" for the purpose of self-improvement and the prevention of oppression. I'd rather hear "this law sucks dick" or "that policy sucks dick," because I don't think that one law defines a country, but I suppose that in a country as heterogeneous and liberal as ours, such statements are inevitable. Also, don't worry about the misquotes; I just felt the need to defend myself.

right-on peug...its refreshing to have a civilized conversation with 'thinker.' this is the type of thing that makes this country a better place.

Amen to that.

...also in Salt Lake it is illegal to modify your car's exhaust in any way.

Wow, in alabama we can run an open header if we want to. It gets to a point to where they need to enforce some stuff around here though, like when you are cruising behind a car that is creating a smoke screen large enough to cover four lanes, or you can't pass the jacked up truck in front of you because the tires are wide enough to take up two lanes. Oh, and when people use tractors as forms of transportation it gets annoying really quick.

Wow, in alabama we can run an open header if we want to. It gets to a point to where they need to enforce some stuff around here though, like when you are cruising behind a car that is creating a smoke screen large enough to cover four lanes, or you can't pass the jacked up truck in front of you because the tires are wide enough to take up two lanes. Oh, and when people use tractors as forms of transportation it gets annoying really quick.
that kind of stuff is understandable though. there needs to be regulations on what kind of vehicles, or what kind of modifications can be done. im glad you bring up these points because these types of things dont impinge upon our freedom in any way. telling me that im not entitled to drive on a road i pay for does...

ill speak for myself when i say that i appreciate the fact that there are fairly strict emissions and modification standards to adhere to...it kind of gives you another type of hole to jump through...

i'm pissed and i wanna break shit... i saw fuck the law! anarcy biotch!

i'm pissed and i wanna break shit... i saw fuck the law! anarcy biotch!
okay.

thank gad i'm moving out of the 'US