I want to get a car that is nice off the lot, Does not require a lot of mods. I'm looking into may different cars. Which one gives me the most right now. What are the cheapest mods to make the car smooth. ( Go easy on me, just getting into cars and mods.)

you cant even compare the srt-4 to a civic or GTi. The srt-4 is in the class with 350z and evo, its faster then the z, slower then evo.

If your interested in the civic or gti test drive them then test drive an srt-4, you'll know what im talking about. Srt-4 doesnt need much to make it smooth. just some lowering springs.

I have test driven the all three and the evo. The evo blew away the SRT-4, to much $$. I'm just getting into tuning. Some of the things that I've read say that you should buy a better BOV, and a new intake. But which is better, cold air intake or the ram intake? What other "cheap" mods can you suggest?

did you drive the civic or gti? slow as hell right.

just get the mopar stage 1,2,3 mods as they come out, I think after stage 3 you'll be in the 350hp+ range

Civics are slow but gti 1.8t, I don't think so, 0-60 6.4s(C&C), neon srt-4 0-60 5.6s, style of the gti is much better so is the interior finish and comfort, but if performance is all you care go with srt-4. Gti's are not slow, my gti is fast with the neuspeed chip and cai, and custom exhaust, right now its 0-60 is under 6s(running only on 14.5 psi) 220hp/250 lbs-ft.

whats you quarter time, who cares about 0-60? yeah out of the three the gti is deff has the nicest interior, but I would rather spend my money on speed not my dashboard material.

Go for the srt-4 they may not have the best looks but damn are they fast. Hey look here comes one ahh u missed it

i'd say just get anything but the civic, hondas bite, but the srt4 kicks serious a**. that thing flies, i'
d suggest that

i run in high 13s and low 14s, depends on the day, on a good day i got 13.8s@102mph and other day i got 14s@100mph.

dood honda haters suck and id like to say ....depending on wich civic you were to get.... i mean ome on srt-4 versus the civic si-r? no contest man the civic is the shit i really dun care what else you have to say.....dont get me wrong i mean id probly go for the gti but man honda haters suck big time.....just thought id tell you all that


honda doesnt need a turbo to compete

man im gonnA get flamedd for that one

i dont hate hondas, i just dont want to buy what every1 else have

dood honda haters suck and id like to say ....depending on wich civic you were to get.... i mean ome on srt-4 versus the civic si-r? no contest man the civic is the shit i really dun care what else you have to say.....dont get me wrong i mean id probly go for the gti but man honda haters suck big time.....just thought id tell you all that


honda doesnt need a turbo to compete

Are you 5 or something? Because that would account for your writing style and arguments, not to mention the whining.

mrgofast218, Learn how to talk dumbass. civic si-r? wtf. I bet you are some little dumbass kid that thinks graphics and neon lights are sweet, were talking performance here, so get in you ugly ass riced out 90' civic and go hit a tree.

the civic si is not fast 160hp, my 1st gen neon r/t can take one. so learn before you (try to) talk shit.

1.8t running high 13's, that sure as hell is not stock, right? not to sure on there performance but that sounds a little exagerated for stock.

I have neuspeed chip and cai by aem and custom exhaust made by ansa, i just need downpipe and FMI to get in low 13s. I also have a audi tt short shifter, that makes my shifting faster.

Yeah, but aren't stock times low 15s? Does the chip control boost or something?

you guys are gay....keep up on the cars that honda has in other countries....yes the honda si-r its a type r engine in the new civic chassis and it puts out a bit more than 160....so check your fin specs...and no i dont believe that rice amkes the car go faster.....i dont got a wing or neon.....but i do know how to build a sohc 1.6 honda engine with 487 whp....so until you can do better go screw yourselves.......pushaw im me if your gonna talk crap about my car too...i dont take that too well

you guys are gay....keep up on the cars that honda has in other countries....yes the honda si-r its a type r engine in the new civic chassis and it puts out a bit more than 160....so check your fin specs...and no i dont believe that rice amkes the car go faster.....i dont got a wing or neon.....but i do know how to build a sohc 1.6 honda engine with 487 whp....so until you can do better go screw yourselves.......pushaw im me if your gonna talk crap about my car too...i dont take that too well


How about you try to get in some arguments above 5th grade level. "Sir is the shit" does not constitute a valid argument btw.

And consider this a warning: stop the trash talk or you get benched!!!

lol

Yeah, but aren't stock times low 15s? Does the chip control boost or something?
yes it does, instead of 5-10 psi , i run on 15psi and spikes up to 20psi with the p-chip

areku x, ok 13 are deff reasonable, nice car.

mrgofast218, 487 out a 1.6, wow thats dumb why didnt you swap in a real engine and build that? from the sounds of it your lying anyways.

and that si-r would get smoked HARD by an srt4, there not even in the same class.

I'd say go with the Srt4. Not because it faster, but because it doesn't need alot non-rice mods. I would go with an evo if I could afford it

i would go with r32 if i had enought for evo, then drop a hpa twin turbo stage 2 or 3 whopping 550-900hp, and 0-60 under 3s leaving everything in the dust even the big dogs like enzo.

the civic si-r is only available in Japan, and it is still slower than a SRT-4. On Car and Driver television they took a stock Si put 40,000 in it and it only ran 6.1. Granted they spent some of that on a body kit and other stuff but still

civics are slow.

LOL...I dunno what it is about civic's but sooo many ppl love them...guess what...THEY SUCK...they are slow and MOST of them are ugly or plain at best...all my friends lose their minds over a V-Tec engine....its just a type of engine..it doesnt fly or anything!!!..HP is HP...SRT-4 230HP....SIR way less..nuff said

you cant come into a neon forum and expect us to tell you to get a civic

well I have an MR2 and an SRT-4. I love both but the srt-4 is just a freakin kick in the pants. breathtaking acceleration from a strong engine that WILL NOT break. what other car gives you forged internals and a crank that can withstand 1000hp stock? They threw this car together right.

I've always been an import lover. I was scared of domestic reliability, but so far the dodge has proved me wrong. The other two cars you listed are also good cars, but bang for the buck you wont beat the SRT-4. Good luck with whatever you choose though!

Oh yea, and you can find some good info about them over at www.srtforums.com there's some pretty knowledgeable guys over there.

probably gonna rag on the stupidity of this question...but does the neon still have the 2.2? I remember my parents old van had that engine and it is bulletproof....and my dads omni....god I love that engine...

probably gonna rag on the stupidity of this question...but does the neon still have the 2.2? I remember my parents old van had that engine and it is bulletproof....and my dads omni....god I love that engine...

nah its got the PT 2.4L block in it. Same block they use for their motorsports.

unless you're talkin about the regular neons. this was an srt-4 discussion.

probably gonna rag on the stupidity of this question...but does the neon still have the 2.2? I remember my parents old van had that engine and it is bulletproof....and my dads omni....god I love that engine...

no need to laugh, but neons never had a 2.2, no neon ever has, butttttttttttttttttt, does anyone know of a swap kit, cause before mopar quit, i think i saw a 2.2 turbo neon, but it was a swap from an acclaim, or sundance or something