hey guys i was wondering if anybody knows if i can fit a six cylinder into a 95 civic ex if not do you think a b16a would be a good swap or what kind of engine do you suggest i can't make up my mind but i would like a 6 thanx

Good luck getting a six cylinder in there. I've only seen one Civic with the S2K motor swap and I bet that shit was expensive. Would be the same with an Accord V6 motor. It's pointless. The b16a is a perfect swap for a civic.

it'd be fun to have that much low-end torque to play with (depending on engine, of course), but yeah, that would be a LOT of work, worse then an H22-series engine... you'd need a complete suspension upgrade, major drivetrain mods, the works. major cash.

but hey, if some dudes can fit a Mustang Cobra engine in a focus, and leave the interior completely stock- you can fit a V6 in your civic.

of course, those guys have worked on cars for YEARS, had a complete metalworking shop at their disposal, and spent about 60k... but hey, what's the price limit on speed?


oh, yeah... $130 for 86 in a 65 >.<

hey guys i was wondering if anybody knows if i can fit a six cylinder into a 95 civic ex if not do you think a b16a would be a good swap or what kind of engine do you suggest i can't make up my mind but i would like a 6 thanx

Possible but expensive. Why not just get the accord then if you want a 6 cylinder?

If you are looking for the most low end torque out of a swapped b-series motor, the LS has the most low end torque of any of the b-series motors. It has 127 ft-lbs of torque @ 5200rpm (the lowest rpm for peak torque output of any of the b-series), the GSR has 128ft-lbs, but at a higher rpm (6200rpm). The B16Ahas either 111ft-lbs@7000rpm (usdm) or 116ft-lbs@7300rpm (jdm).

If you are looking for the most low end torque out of a swapped b-series motor, the LS has the most low end torque of any of the b-series motors. It has 127 ft-lbs of torque @ 5200rpm (the lowest rpm for peak torque output of any of the b-series), the GSR has 128ft-lbs, but at a higher rpm (6200rpm). The B16Ahas either 111ft-lbs@7000rpm (usdm) or 116ft-lbs@7300rpm (jdm).

I always thought that the B20 had the most low0end torque. 133 ft lbs at 3300 rpm right?

I always thought that the B20 had the most low0end torque. 133 ft lbs at 3300 rpm right?

Techincally, that is correct, though your rpm numbers are off...the B20B (usdm) has 133ft-lbs@4300rpm, the B20Z (jdm, 99+) has 133 ft-lbs@4500rpm. The LS has a higher HP output that the B20B though, 142HP@6300rpm vs 126HP@5400. Techincally, the jdm B20Z has 146HP@6200rpm.

I ment of the main b-series, I typically seperate the B20 from the rest in my head, as it's tuned more for a small suv application. I realize though it is a b-series. I still perfer the LS over the B20, 126hp is just too low for a swap, IMO. Still, the B20 makes a great base for a cr/vtec. Also, throwing LS cams into the B20 will bump the power output a bit.

I don't know about you guys, but seems to me that this topic line is misleading.

Anyway, I can't think of there is an I6 motor with transaxles ever made into a FWD car. Beside the 4 banger and transaxles in the civic can bearly fit into the engine bay, what kind of I6 will fit in there?

Now I know there are lots of donkeys out there will try to jump on this post and saying all the craps about it is possible (yeah, it's possible when an idiot that happens to be rich). But please spare me with the talk and show me the facts that some one actually went and spent a crap load of money to get this done.

how many Honda/Acura cars come with an I6?

Think of how much of PITA it would be to throw in a non Honda motor in there let alone a fucking 6 cylinder.

hey guys thanks for the help if you got anymore info keep it coming

well dude, my suggestion, go with the B16 you will not regret it, I promise.

well dude, my suggestion, go with the B16 you will not regret it, I promise.

Yeah, B16 would be your best bet for that generation of civic.

OR

I can post this again because Ive posted it numerous times...K20 (If your budget would allow it). Ive heard that people were able to do it in 5th and 6th gen civics. Heres for the 6th gen civic...

http://www.hasport.com/News/Articles/ESK1.htm

Even if you do manage to slam a 6 in there, will it even be fun to drive? It will throw off the whole handling dynamics of the car. You'll have to modify the whole suspension so extinsively and you'll have to spend 2g's alone upgrading the brakes. The b16 or 18 is a better choice. There is a EG i know of that had a h22 in it but it couldn't turn...only fast in a straight line. If you want a all around car go with a b-series.

I agree w/ gscivic7 the b-16 is best swap for that year

I don't even understand the point in swapping engines anyways... With all the money you blow on replacing the engine, why don't you just buy a nicer car? With the money that you spend on your civic and a new engine, you could just go out and buy a GSR of probably the same year for a little more. That way you get a sexy looking car and the same engine. Just my opinion at least..

I don't even understand the point in swapping engines anyways... With all the money you blow on replacing the engine, why don't you just buy a nicer car? With the money that you spend on your civic and a new engine, you could just go out and buy a GSR of probably the same year for a little more. That way you get a sexy looking car and the same engine. Just my opinion at least..

I can see what you mean by this, but i think the whole idea of swapping engines is not the money. it's about how you want it. you can go out and buy a gsr, sure. but it's still going to be the same as everyone else's gsr. swapping motors is all about driving something that you built yourself. it's sort of a self-respect thing almost.... swapping engines is all about being different. just my :2cents:

good point silvia, im glad you didn't flame me like i'm sure many will...lol

I don't even understand the point in swapping engines anyways... With all the money you blow on replacing the engine, why don't you just buy a nicer car? With the money that you spend on your civic and a new engine, you could just go out and buy a GSR of probably the same year for a little more. That way you get a sexy looking car and the same engine. Just my opinion at least..

How many GSRs are you going to find with only 35000-50000 miles on the motor for $3500?

How many GSRs are you going to find with only 35000-50000 miles on the motor for $3500?


Your civic + a GSR motor = only $3500 ? I'd like to know where you're buying your engines / cars..

you already have the civic, what does that matter. Anyways, you can pick up a 5th gen in decent condition for around $5000 add the 3500 and it's only $8500. Still, where are you going to find a GSR for $8500 with only 35000-50000 miles on it?

I can see what you mean by this, but i think the whole idea of swapping engines is not the money. it's about how you want it. you can go out and buy a gsr, sure. but it's still going to be the same as everyone else's gsr. swapping motors is all about driving something that you built yourself. it's sort of a self-respect thing almost.... swapping engines is all about being different. just my :2cents:

sure. it's tough nowadays to have even a slightly unique car, unless you make 200k/year and have a custom garage all of your own. that's part of the tuner mentality- YOU do your work, design, etc... and have something original, new, or different. that's cool.

that, and the weight savings with the different bodies makes the engine ~that~ much more effective!

a gsr is heavier, and even with integras now, people like doing a LS/vtec because of the low end torque. same with the b20 and h22.

oh and if i went and got a GS-R it wouldn't be able to keep up with my civic. =)

oh and if i went and got a GS-R it wouldn't be able to keep up with my civic. =)

well obviously if your sig. is true.

but wow, I thought the integra would be alot lighter than a civic? My friends 95 GSR is way lower than my civic, and its ass end is considerably smaller.

since we're on the topic anyways, how much more work would it be to do a 5 speed swap into an automatic? Is it gunna cost alot more? parts etc..?

you can count on a tranny swap costing in the realm of 1000-1200 with all parts and labor included

Well what if it was an LS motor going into an auto civic? How much for engine with transmission, and labor?

same as any other swap. I think LS motors are going for about $2000, add about another 500-1000 for labor for the swap, it really depends on the shop. I have seen prices range greatly depending on the quality of the work the shops do.

So around 3,000 for a swap from auto to 5 speed?

yah sounds about right. They'll probably charge a little more for the conversion. It's just extra labor, but most of it will be done with the engine out of the car anyhow.

Cool thanks, I'd wanna have me or some of my family or friends help me, but I don't know anyone with a cherry picker or any of the probably neccesary tools...

Cool thanks, I'd wanna have me or some of my family or friends help me, but I don't know anyone with a cherry picker or any of the probably neccesary tools...

Well, you can remove the engine, etc, from the car with a cherry picker. However, most of the time, honda motors and dropped and installed from out the bottom of the vehicle.

oh wow i never knew that, i didnt think it woud be able to come out from the bottom..

Well That 6cylinder Thing Is Kinda Crazy But Like They Say If You Can Fit A Cobra In A Focuz Than Keep Lookin...

But!!..b16 Or B18 Is Good And Simple To Do Everything Is Direct Drop In... Except The Wire Harness You Have To Wire Three Wires That Connect The V/tech.

I Need Some Info On How To Put A 97 H22a In A 98 Civic.....
I Have The Motor And Tranny Allready I Just Need To Know What Mounts
Axles
Suspension
And So On...............

Please Help A Civic Brother Out.

oh wow i never knew that, i didnt think it woud be able to come out from the bottom..
seriously, it's amazing how light these motors and trannies are. When we replaced the tranny on my 4g sedan we just jacked the front of the car up, and my dad's friend got underneath and held the tranny up as we unbolted all the mounts, then he lowered it down on to a creeper and we just slid the thing out.

Well That 6cylinder Thing Is Kinda Crazy But Like They Say If You Can Fit A Cobra In A Focuz Than Keep Lookin...

But!!..b16 Or B18 Is Good And Simple To Do Everything Is Direct Drop In... Except The Wire Harness You Have To Wire Three Wires That Connect The V/tech.

I Need Some Info On How To Put A 97 H22a In A 98 Civic.....
I Have The Motor And Tranny Allready I Just Need To Know What Mounts
Axles
Suspension
And So On...............

Please Help A Civic Brother Out.

First off it's Vtec, not V/tech, lol.

As for an H22.

An intermediate shaft from a 1990 Accord can be used w/ left and right axles from a 90-93 Integra...This is the route most people go...or you can use a 92 Prelude intermediate shaft w/ a 90+ Integra right axle and the left axle being a custom part created from a 92 Prelude inner joint, 90+ Integra outer joint, and a 86-89 Integra axle shaft. This second route is tougher, but provides a stronger drivetrain.

Also, your stock radiator fan is too thick to clear between the radiator and the H22. You'll want to use a thinner fan, like the fans from FAL, regardless of the radiator you run with (A Del Sol Vtec radiator has a thicker core and the hose necks that are the same diameter as the H22 hoeses).

Also, the stock civic shifter and linkage won't work. You'll have to replace it with a complete cable system from a 90-93 Accord or 92-96 Prelude. This shifter will bolt to the top of the tunnel from insdie the car, so you'll have to do some modification to the tunnel inside the car Hasport makes mounts for this swap, and the mount kits should come with a template to help with this). You'll need to seal the new shifter and cable when finished.

A fule rail from a 90-93 Accord will solve the issue of the fuel supply and return end fittings facing the wrong way on the H22 fuel rail (you can also route longer flex lines instead). I think swapping fuel rails looks cleaner. The civic throttle cable probably won't reach correctly, so a prelude throttle cable should connect properly (I know 97+ works, not sure about 92-96).

Also, the H22 has EGR (exhuast gas re-circulation), if your civic doesn't. So you may need to mess with that a bit. I don't know about 6th gens, but with 92-95's, only the VX had it.

I hope this helps a bit.