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r34 GT-T vs GT-R


Playpold
03-04-2004, 01:51 PM
If i have gott i right itīs two models of the nissan skyline r34.. the GT-T and the GT-R... What is the difrens about this two models?

moondog
03-04-2004, 06:03 PM
There are quite a few different models of the R34. There's the GT - 2l non turbo RWD, comes 2 or 4 door; 25GT (and variations such as 25GT-V etc) - 2.5l non turbo RWD, 2 or 4 door; 25GT4 - 2.5l non turbo ATTESSA 4WD, 2 or 4 door; 25GT-t - 2.5l turbo RWD, 2 or 4 door; and GTR (plain vanilla, v-spec, v-spec II, N1, M-spec, Nur :D ) - 2.6l twin turbo ATTESSA 4WD, 2 door only.

The GTR is the only one with the big-arse flares, carbon wing, mega-aggro front bumper etc. The others look much more similar; the external differences are in wheels etc. There are a myriad of differences, small and definitely not-so, between the different models. Most obvious is the GTR's 2.6 litre twin turbo 6, coupled with its 4WD system, and everything tuned for racing, basically.

darkness
03-04-2004, 07:05 PM
as moondog has stated already

R34 GT-T
2.5 Litre Turbo
Rear Wheel Drive
2 door or 4 door

R34 GTR
2.6 Litre Twin Turbo
ATTESSA 4wd
2 door only in production.

you can't compare them performance wise. theres no point. The GTR is the ultimate performance skyline. The GT-T is more of a sports coupe/sedan.

The GTR has as shown a bigger engine, extra turbo. larger wheels and brakes. bigger gaurd flares. bigger front kit and rear skirt and wing. GTR also got a 6 speed manual transmission as opposed to the GTT's 5 speed or 4 speed auto.

and the GTR is a lot more expensive than the GTT.

R34 GTR
03-06-2004, 01:23 PM
The GTR is the only one with the big-arse flares, carbon wing,

??
I must be missing something here! My GTR didn't come with a carbon wing...

GTES-t
03-06-2004, 01:42 PM
Yeah not all models of the R34 GTR got the carbon wing. If I remember correctly, only some top end GTR models got them (Like the vSpec Nur?) Like I said, I'm not certain of this and I may not have stated the correct model.

R34 GTR
03-08-2004, 02:11 PM
None of the R34 GTR variants had carbon wing!

Only carbon parts are:

Rear diffuser on all models (V spec, N1, M spec, V spec II, V spec II Nur) except non V spec

Carbon bonnet with NACA duct on N1, V spec II & Vspec II Nur.

Zwrangler
03-10-2004, 02:17 PM
None of the R34 GTR variants had carbon wing!

Only carbon parts are:

Rear diffuser on all models (V spec, N1, M spec, V spec II, V spec II Nur) except non V spec

Carbon bonnet with NACA duct on N1, V spec II & Vspec II Nur.

Thats what i thought too. Never seen a gtr stock with a carbon wing. NOt even the v-spec has a carbon wing as far as I know.

styln32
04-17-2004, 03:57 AM
GTR=208kw
GT-T=206kw

althought the gtr is 4wd u cud save a lot of $$$ buy bulking up the GTT

GTES-t
04-17-2004, 05:14 AM
GTR=208kw
GT-T=206kw

Don't accept the factory ps or kw ratings as the truth. Japanese law doesn't allow a factory car to be sold over 280ps (~206kw). So all the car makers figure out ways to under rate the ps. Such as where they take the rating, factoring in road and wind friction, etc. etc. And they come up with the magic number exactly at the max legal factory limit, what a coincidence! If you take a factory RB26DETT directly from the showroom to a dyno, it will put out over 280ps (276hp)!!! It will also be a larger difference between GTR and the GT-T then factory released ratings say.

RazorGTR
04-17-2004, 06:42 AM
GTR=208kw
GT-T=206kw

althought the gtr is 4wd u cud save a lot of $$$ buy bulking up the GTT

R32 GTR in 2wd only 13.21 1/4 mile time. (as of today)
R32 GTR in 4wd 1/4 mile time. (as of today)
R3 GTT 14.5 1/4 mile time.

Pretty clear cut on performance

styln32
04-18-2004, 03:59 AM
this probly sounds dumb but evrywhere i look i see r34 GT-T 206kw but on hpi 7 his is standard around 180-85 kw wood that be the correct power rating or is there somethign i shud kno

Gtr2.7L
04-22-2004, 01:14 AM
The upper slat of the wing was offered in carbon as a dealer option.

It was part of the performance package that came with the extra oil cooler in the side....something around 220,000 Yen.....

??
I must be missing something here! My GTR didn't come with a carbon wing...

R34 GTR
04-22-2004, 08:04 AM
The upper slat of the wing was offered in carbon as a dealer option.

It was part of the performance package that came with the extra oil cooler in the side....something around 220,000 Yen.....

I checked with a friend of mine from Japan where he got his R34 from, he said:

'Nissan did offer the Nismo oil cooler with the additional bumper venting as an option, but no CF rear wing flap.'

Gtr2.7L
04-23-2004, 12:36 AM
My info comes from a Nissan owners guide.

Your choice....

I checked with a friend of mine from Japan where he got his R34 from, he said:

'Nissan did offer the Nismo oil cooler with the additional bumper venting as an option, but no CF rear wing flap.'

HondaHater
05-04-2004, 11:54 AM
on the r34 gt-t 2.5L turbo, is that the same as the rb25det from r33 skylines, only newer?

only gtr's that come stock with alot of carbon that i know of is the 400r and vspec 2 nur.

jamezilla
05-05-2004, 08:38 AM
The 206kw GTT figure is factory @ fly
The 185kw GTT figure is real-world @ rear wheels

BTW: Nismo offered a carbon blade for R33 GTR as an option. Cost (currently) A$650

The upper-blade on the R34 factory twin-wing is matte black - but don't think it's CF.

RazorGTR
05-05-2004, 11:53 AM
The 206kw GTT figure is factory @ fly
The 185kw GTT figure is real-world @ rear wheels


Standard one's I've seen are making in the upper 160's to low 170's on a local dyno. That would put them closer to the quote 206kw that Nissan quotes. Exhaust, pod, and increase in boost they seem to go up into the 190's.

However in saying that, the GTT will NEVER be a GTR no will it beat a GTR (that is healthy) mod for mod. They are not as detuned as one from the factory, as a matter of fact they are closer to being properly tuned than detuned.

9ball
06-24-2004, 11:38 AM
I agree that mod for mod the GTR will always be quicker mostly because of the 4WD launch, but there isn't that much difference in engine capability. GTR's run 1.1 bar in stock form while 2WD Skylines typically run .6 bar in stock form. Just the difference in boost almost accounts for the horsepower difference. I live in Japan and there is just as much of a following for 2WD Skylines (mostly because of the drift scene) as there is for GTR's and you see just as many 900 and 1000ps 2WD Skylines as you do 1000ps GTR's.

RazorGTR
06-24-2004, 03:12 PM
I agree that mod for mod the GTR will always be quicker mostly because of the 4WD launch, but there isn't that much difference in engine capability. GTR's run 1.1 bar in stock form while 2WD Skylines typically run .6 bar in stock form. Just the difference in boost almost accounts for the horsepower difference. I live in Japan and there is just as much of a following for 2WD Skylines (mostly because of the drift scene) as there is for GTR's and you see just as many 900 and 1000ps 2WD Skylines as you do 1000ps GTR's.

Where do you get your information from, because honestly it is so far off it isn't funny.

Stock standard the GTR's roll off the showroom floor producing .65 bar, same as the other turbo models. They have a boost restrictor plug in the boost line and a boost control solinoid.

It isn't the engine capacity that makes the huge differnce it is the head, and the strength of the block and support craddle.

As far as 900-1000ps 2wd skylines, I've not seen many making that sort of power and the onese I do see making that are using the RB26 motor.

HondaHater
06-24-2004, 06:11 PM
is there gonna be ownage. ive seen r33 gtr's with the 26, 800hp, converted to rwd. i seen it with my two eyes.....in a video.

RazorGTR
06-24-2004, 10:16 PM
So they would be running a very special trans then. You have links to those vids?

jcsaleen
06-24-2004, 11:11 PM
Seems like some1 else might get owned...

:grinno:

RazorGTR
06-25-2004, 03:57 AM
What I dont understand is why convert a GTR to 2wd? It sort of defeats the purpose of the car in the first place.

jcsaleen
06-25-2004, 07:45 AM
True but dont you get higher top end with rwd. But I heard the GTR's computer puts more power to the reaer wheeels when it reachs higherspeeds there fore no need for rwd.

HondaHater
06-25-2004, 10:25 AM
hey it's awhile ago, but yeah, they did it, and it was in a drag strip in aussie. the paragraph before the link to the vid spoke of rwd, 800hp. blah blah blah.


and no one owns me, im only tellin of what i saw. ill find that link.

RazorGTR
06-25-2004, 02:18 PM
hey it's awhile ago, but yeah, they did it, and it was in a drag strip in aussie. the paragraph before the link to the vid spoke of rwd, 800hp. blah blah blah.


and no one owns me, im only tellin of what i saw. ill find that link.

I know that car. It's a red R33 GTS25-t with the RB25DET still in it that has been worked hard. It runs low 10's or did. It may have done a high 9 by now, I'll have to check on it. It's not a GTR though. Mario has a purlple coloured GTR which has done a low 8 now.

HondaHater
06-25-2004, 10:29 PM
well, that gtst you mentioned isnt what im talking bout. before the vid, it showed the specs, rwd it was stated, along with gtr, something like that. well im not sure it's been awhile since i seen it. and i know red from purple. it was something like... midnight purple, dark purple. something like that. it had one it's headlights out. at first in the vid, it did a burnout, rwd only burnout for a while, and hopped, then braked. you know come to think of it, extrevitmiei, i dont know how to spell it, but that name comes to mind. but not sure if it's them

RazorGTR
06-26-2004, 01:08 AM
the vehicle you are talking about is Mario's R33 GTR. It is NOT 2wd it is still the normal driveline configuration though the transmission is a Liberty air shifted sequential box.

You can view the car for yourself here http://www.exvitermini.com/

Penfold
06-28-2004, 04:47 AM
R32 GTR's ran 0.80 bar stock.
R33 & R34s GTR's ran 0.84 bar stock.

If you removed the restrictor boost went up to about 0.95 bar.

RazorGTR
06-28-2004, 05:13 AM
R32 GTR's ran 0.80 bar stock.
R33 & R34s GTR's ran 0.84 bar stock.

If you removed the restrictor boost went up to about 0.95 bar.

.80 with pod filters and exhaust done, not stock.

jcsaleen
06-28-2004, 08:47 PM
Doesnt the speed of the car have an effect on how fast the turbos spool up???

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