I am not sure who is selling it. But it looks like P_R_I_M_E_R_A 's car. Can you confirm this P_R_I_M_E_R_A?

Here is a link

Link to the BW (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=599973010&r=0&t=0)

Late

Originally posted by str8maxn
I am not sure who is selling it. But it looks like P_R_I_M_E_R_A 's car. Can you confirm this P_R_I_M_E_R_A?


Looks like it to me.

he sellin the bumper for alot!

Thats my ride for sure, but not my sale....

NinjaCar has the selling rights to the BW kit.

If you think its too much, then dont buy one;)

It's time for me to start on a new project,
anyone have any good idea's????

id fit a Street Fighter 1 or 2. how different do you think it would be to fit on a P11? i think a 92-95 civic is better for a P11 and 90-93 accord for P10.

so you think the honda accord bumper would fit the p10 better?
from what kind 4 door or a 2 door accord?

just another p10...More pics of this car in g20.net in the readers ride sec.:)

Originally posted by p10SoCal
just another p10...More pics of this car in g20.net in the readers ride sec.:)

i know, i think that looks the best IMO, but i dont think hes on this forum.

Originally posted by GtRider
so you think the honda accord bumper would fit the p10 better?
from what kind 4 door or a 2 door accord?

well the front bumper should be the same for both the 4 dr and 2 dr, but for the sides, go with the 4 dr. :D

hey p_r_i_m_e_r_a thats ur car rite?
but ur not selln yours?
is it cheaper to just buy the honda bumper and customize it to fit?

I dont understand the confusion. Honda has a hundred different kits for each one of its models and they typically retail at about $350 per front end. You have less than 10 to choose from and youre complaining because it costs as much as a Hondas? WTF? This kit was designed by a fellow P10er, just like yourselves, a member of YOUR online community, and probably one of the better looking front ends out there, yet you still think the price is too high. You want props cause youre moddin a G and not a Civic, yet you wine about the lack of aftermarket support, but when a fellow G-rider and a company answer the call to provide YOU w/ quality aftermarket support at a competetive price, you still wanna cut up a Honda Kit? Youre not doin much to encourage the developement of aftermarket parts. When you consider the cost of originality is often MUCH higher than the cost of the norm, and the fact that there are a hundred Hondas out there w/ a Black Widow but to date, only 2 NinjaCar G20s, I would expect the price on this front end to be much higher. But alright then, if you insist, Im sure NinjaCar would be happy to sell you a Black Widow Front End for the Honda Accord for $300, and let you spend countless hours sanding, grinding, cutting, and mounting in an ATTEMPT to replicate a kit thats already available for your car.

WHY YOU ALL UP IN MY BUSINESS FOR???? Varitec1

The Post wasnt directed at YOU personally, GTRider, but the G20 community in general, and Im not trying to bag on anyone. I dont even drive a G, I sport a Widebody Sentra, but that was my friend that designed that front end, and I watched him grind for days on that kit just to make it fit right. Then he hooked up with a Fiberglass company to make the molds and NinjaCar to sell the kits, just to make it available to his fellow P10ers. And if youre thinking he did it to fatten his own pockets, you should know an individual cant produce a front end like that for anything NEAR what the large companies do. That means all three parties involved, the designer, the manufacturer, and the retailer, are doing their parts for next to nothing so P10ers like yorself can have some type of selection when you want to modify you exterior. Im not saying you should buy it just because someone made it, nor am I telling you what you should buy. What I AM saying is, and this is for the whole G20 community, as consumers, you have the power to encourage the production and developement of aftermarket parts for your cars by buying the ones that are currently available. Do you think NinjaCar is going to bother developng a rear end for your car if no one bothered to buy the Front end? I dont think so either. Im not trying to bag on you man, dont get me wrong, but ive seen more people bend over backwards to make this kit available to you, and youre asking "Should I buy an Accord kit and fit it to my car?" If NinjaCar had made a Widebody for my car, I sure as hell wouldnt have spent $4K to have one customized for me. Not Hatin, Just Statin.

I know it's off the subject but Varitec1 do you have any pic's of you sentra? I used to have a 91 Sentra SE,( It was so much fun to drive).

Late.

This isnt aimed at anyone in particular, but Veritec is right, when someone puts a day's worth of time and energy, for months on end trying to perfect a kit to be original and different from eveyone else, and then try to help others sport the same kit by selling it on Ebay so others can enjoy it, it shows a lot of devotion and commitment to the g20 and the forum, and to others that want to learn more about customizing thier cars. The more modifications for sale for the G20, and the more people see modified G20s in our cities, the more people will buy the G20, and the more you will hopefully see a balance of modifications for all brands of cars, and not just Hondas. The average quality kit for a honda costs about 250-350 dollars, depending on the kit. Just think, if Ninjacar or Veritec buys a kit for $350 bucks, then spends 30 hours a week, for lets just say only 2 weeks, that would be 60 hours. And if you were to pay someone to custom make you a kit for your car, he would probably charge you flat rate of 60 bucks an hour for body work. and thats not counting supplies to make it. 60x60 equals 3600 for those that cant count. thats 3600 dollars to make the kit, plus the 350 for the kit, thats about $4000 dollars. So $500 for a kit that would have costed you $4K to have one custom built by a professional doesnt seem like all tham much. And I doubt that its only 1 person working on that Black widow kit you see on ebay, it was probably 2-3 people working on it. So I wouldnt be complaining about the price. Knowledge and skill doesnt come cheap. Thats why you pay $400 dollars for a copy of Windows 2000 when the materials only cost $5 dollars to make it. Its all about the man hours producing it. Same with a Music CD. The only reason black widow kits for Hondas are so cheap, is cuz the man who made it has already re-cuoped the cost by far im sure, and others have copied it. So dont complain people.
-- L3thalg20boy@aol.com

uh, thanx lethal. Im pretty sure you were the LAST person I expected to here an agreement from. :confused:

Well i'm interested in purchasing the kit, but i have no information on it. I went to the website but I can't see the phone number and I don't know what the price is. If any of you guys know all the facts about the kit i would appreciate the info.
Thanks,
K

If your refering to the Black Widow Kit that was available on Ebay, it is not available anymore, that was an old post. Try contacting Ninjacar.com for more information about Kits for G20s. I know they may have some. Once again, im not sure, but that post on ebay is old, but try them. Ninjacar knows about kits here in the US for G20s that arent normally for sale anywhere else, I think they custom make them. Try them, you wont be dissapointed in thier products.

I forgot to note: Ill be honest, theyre products are actually very good quality, the fiberglass they make the kits from is fairly flexible, so it wont crack as easily from stress. I had one, and I hit curbs, bottomed out, scraped, and more, and it held up perfect. The only thing it didnt withstand was a tire in the middle of the road at freeway speeds, which in my opinion, is normal. Once again, I wish you good luck on finding this kit. Try Ninjacar.com.

Yeah, I already got the price $350 plus shipping. Is it fiberglass or urethane? Either way its not a bad bumper but i would like sideshirts and a rear to go with it, just a front looks bad!

Also, are you saying its normal to see a tire in the middle of a freeway? If so, where have you been driving cuz i'm not trying to be on that road!!! LOL!!

No, not that it's normal to see tire in the raod, but for the Kit no to withstand that kind of stress. Thats what I meant, sorry if I didnt word it correctly. LOL

If you are buying the kit from Ninjacar, it is made of High Quality Fiberglass, The material they use is fairly flexible, as stated in earlier replies. I dont think that Just a front looks bad, think of the BTCC PRIMERA: It only has a front and a touring wing. And its pulling 300 horses Normally Aspirated!!. A full kit isnt race car inspired, but a more aerodynamic front end is, like the BW kit. It all depends on how you make the car itself look, rims/tires/color/lighting/wing/ect. It all has to clash together just the right way, and the BW kit on the G20 looks great in my opinion. It goes perfect with the G20's Euro styingling. Ask P_R_I_M_E_R_A or VARITEC1, Theyll tell ya!..

Originally posted by King of DUB-C
Yeah, I already got the price $350 plus shipping. Is it fiberglass or urethane? Either way its not a bad bumper but i would like sideshirts and a rear to go with it, just a front looks bad! Hey if you are getting one of these let me know..cuz I am sopost to be getting one soon too. Then maybe we could save a few bucks.....drop me an e-mail when you get this!:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

*Where is Ninjacar located?

Yeah, i am definitely interested in purchasing the bumper, i don't want to go through the hassle of oversea shipping or trying to do custom front. Now that its gonna be getting warm out i'm anxious to put my rims back on and start pimping the G. I want carbon fiber hood and a body kit for the spring. The front bumper is a start though. Within a couple weeks i might be buying the ninjacar. Everybody let me know whats up with some sides shirts and a rear!! COO!!!!!

Originally posted by King of DUB-C
*Where is Ninjacar located? Couple of hours south of me.....OREGON:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

Honestly, Im not trying to pump the kit, but objectively speaking, I would have to agree with Lethal on the quality of the NINJACAR kit. Ive seen how most kits come from many of the major manufacturers in this industry and the NINJACAR kit puts most of them to shame. Its made from a high quality Hand Laid fiberglass more typically used in boat hulls and aircraft ferrings. Its strong but flexible, no bubbles, no scratches and fits almost as tight as your stock one. NinjaCars still small enough that they dont have to sacrafice quality for quantity in the products they manufacture, and each kit is made to order specifically for each customer. How many Civic owners can say theyre sporting a bodykit specifically made for their ride?

I plan on buying the bumper, but i don't want to buy it until i decide on what i'm going to do about the side skirts and rear. I'm not sure if i trust myself to do the custom job because if i mess up on one then i'm out $300.

Hey you got mail...dub...about sides and back.....:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

Just checked out their site and noticed that they are advertising a NISMO kit for the P10 :confused:
http://www.geocities.com/ninjacar1/Main/Infiniti/G20/91G20/91G20Nismo/91G20NismoPage.html

Just curious if they are going to offer this kit or make a similar one.

Originally posted by Blue94G20T
Just checked out their site and noticed that they are advertising a NISMO kit for the P10 :confused:
http://www.geocities.com/ninjacar1/Main/Infiniti/G20/91G20/91G20Nismo/91G20NismoPage.html

Just curious if they are going to offer this kit or make a similar one. Yea they have it.....imported...$2000 for that price I would get the KM......if you want the bw front.....I am having a good deal on them right now.....let me know if you want.....1 week thing.....so act quick!:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash:

Tizao are you going to be making the sides and rear yourself, or did you talk to Ninjacar about it. Also, Ninjacar agreed to take off $50 if we do a group by and if so, how many people do we need, and where to send the money?

Originally posted by King of DUB-C
Tizao are you going to be making the sides and rear yourself, or did you talk to Ninjacar about it. Also, Ninjacar agreed to take off $50 if we do a group by and if so, how many people do we need, and where to send the money? Hey can we not talk about this here.....sopost to be hush hush.....E=mail me !:alien: :bloated: :licker: :smoka: :flash: