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lilblackneonrt
02-16-2004, 06:50 PM
i have a 99 neon rt, im looking for any addition little cheap mods i can do
This is whats done to it already, af/x long tube header, flowmaster 40 series, unorthadox underdrive pulley, port and pollished intake, 60mm m/tx jeep throttle body, Ractive cold air intake, egr blockoff mod, took off a/c, msd ignition coil, can anone else think of any small mods i can do.
my car moves but i want to knock off the small things before i get to any of the big money things
if u dont know what your talking about dont waste my time or money
j/k any info might help. and for any one that talks crap about neons theirs no stock mustang gt or camaro z28 that will touch me. trust me on that one. props from me to all neon owners no matter how slow and ugly or fast and pretty :evillol:

Scatch!
02-16-2004, 07:48 PM
It depends on your definition of "small mods". I think at your level, you're going to be looking at headwork (go to a reputable head porter!), cams/springs/retainers, Indy intake manifold, cam gears. Taking weight out of the car will also make your car faster is every way, and doesn't cost a thing. Being that you have about the heaviest G1 Neon, you could take a bunch of weight out. ;)

Also, why haven't you gone with an aftermarket PCM, like the MP unit? It's like $200 (or so), and is very easy to install.

blachdohcneon
02-16-2004, 09:53 PM
yeah pcm is a good for a few horses, I would also get some solid or stiff motor mounts, eliminates wheel hop and gives you better launches. getting rid of weight helps in every way, acceleration, handleing, braking.

dont bother with an indy intake manifold, they dont show any gain over a p&p stock dohc manifold.

some street slicks will also help lower your 1/4 times

Scatch!
02-16-2004, 10:44 PM
I forgot about the MMs, good catch.

So where did you see that the Indy intake doesn't show any gains over a stock, ported manifold? It doesn't look very good from a flow-quality standpoint, but I've always heard it was a very large improvement over anything else.

blachdohcneon
02-16-2004, 11:04 PM
here it is http://www.neons.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=148513&highlight=indy

the indy is not as bad as I thought but if you already have a p+p intake mani I would spend the money on an aluminum flywheel instead.

Scatch!
02-16-2004, 11:23 PM
Huh. That's a shame. I knew there were fitment issues, but I didn't know they weren't all that with power. Looks like a Fast Fabrications intake might be the way to go.

lilblackneonrt
02-17-2004, 08:03 PM
sorry i do have a do have an a/fx ecu, and polyurethane motor mounts i totally forgot about that. as far as my intake goes their wouldnt be enough gain if any with the indy. my intake is ported to 60 mm tb i dont think the indy is that high and for the money mines ok. as far as weight issues go what can i do to the rt to lose some weight. thanks for all your help keep the info coming. if anyone wants to do that jeep tb swap forget it just by one their only about 200 dollars. for the price and the pain in the ass fabbing i did to the jeep one i would of bought one from modern performance

inzanesrt4
02-17-2004, 09:12 PM
Not a performance mod per say but Short shifter. Also by weight reduction I think they meant lighter hood, fenders, wheels, spare tire, trunk. I also did not see anything you listed for exhaust. It seems like your getting the air in. Its equally important to get the air out.

Scatch!
02-17-2004, 09:27 PM
as far as weight issues go what can i do to the rt to lose some weight.

There's lots you can do to drop weight off the car, but it depends greatly on how far you want to go and how much money you can spend. Slapping carbon fiber body parts helps, but it really doesn't do THAT much, and is very expensive. You can rip the back seat out, scrape sound deadening off, remove speakers... but you may not want to go that far.

There was another thread in this forum about weight redux, and it had a link outlining Neon parts and how much weight you can drop by removing them. Look around, it was pretty recent.

blachdohcneon
02-18-2004, 12:48 AM
what about aluminum flywheel $305, think thats a pretty sweet mod.

Scatch!
02-18-2004, 01:26 AM
It's a good mod if you buy quality stuff. But it can make your car a bit harder to launch, even though the engine will rev quicker. My advice: don't go cheap.

blachdohcneon
02-18-2004, 01:27 PM
only one I know of is findanza, looks like quality to me

lilblackneonrt
02-18-2004, 11:22 PM
who made that post about no exaust, i have a long tube afx header which works great if anyones thinking about getting it and flowmaster muffler oh ya i ripped off my cat. i talked to my speed shop and im getting a lot of useless weight dropped 2 weekends from now thanks for the ideas if u think of any more post them.

Scatch!
02-19-2004, 01:01 AM
Fidanza and Unorthodox makes them, and so do a few "other" companies. I'd lean a bit more toward Unorthodox, because I've heard that Fidanza's quality can be a little hit or miss.

blachdohcneon
02-19-2004, 11:52 AM
hey lilblackneonrt I think the flowmaster might be hurting more then helping, there for v8's. get a straight through design.

Scatch!
02-19-2004, 10:34 PM
A muffler is a muffler. Either it is good, or it isn't. Other than size, it doesn't matter what engine you put in front of a muffler as long as it isn't a POS. That said, I don't think Flowmasters are all that, but they sound good. ;)

You're right, though, straight-through is the way to go for performance, but they are loud.

EDIT: I'm not saying all mufflers are created equally, I'm just saying that a muffler that works for a V8 will work fine for an I4, as long as it's sized properly.

lilblackneonrt
02-21-2004, 12:22 AM
whats some mufflers you guys recommend, mainly for performance but i love loud :evillol:

blachdohcneon
02-21-2004, 01:59 AM
if you want loud gat a vibrant, good performance too, if you want quality and good tone get an apexi

Scatch!
02-23-2004, 08:29 PM
I've also heard that Moroso "Spiral-Flow" mufflers are quite good as well. I also heard from one person that they don't last long, but he had real built-up engine. High EGTs might have helped kill it.

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