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Z06ETR
02-10-2004, 10:39 PM
I've been thinking about swapping a RB26DETT into a 94 S13. I know that it will cost around 15k but its still a hell of a lot cheaper then my next alternatives and will be faster. Then i was wondering if i could put a Tomei Gemesis stage 3 with twin HKS ball-bearing turbos. i just saw a skyline in a mag with that and im jealous now lol anyways i know nothing about the Genesis and if any1 does i need to know if i fits in a 94 and some specs on it. thanx alot

stealthj
02-11-2004, 12:29 AM
hey i also got a convert, and yeah the fronts are the same on all s13's so the same amount of mods goes for all the s13's

but seriously, dont make ur decisions based on a mag, look into the rb25det

how much money are u working with? will u swap or a shop?

and just to know, how old r u

Chuki_breath
02-11-2004, 01:10 AM
yea thats a pretty damn expensive dream!!!! but if u got the money more power to ya. Yea how old are u???

musicsurfman
02-11-2004, 08:19 AM
You Could Take The Cost Of The Genesis And Build The Rb25dett To Be Even More Powerful.
Btw, A Rb26dett Swap Costs:
Cost Of Clip
Cost Of Rb25det Tranny
Cost Of Mckinney Mounts
Cost Of Driveshaft
Cost Of Mckinney Dp
So Your Looking At Roughly $4500 - 7k

Ace$nyper
02-11-2004, 08:44 PM
RB25 sounds best but Genesis would be sweet as fuck i'd love to see one on the board.

Z06ETR
02-11-2004, 11:19 PM
Just so u know im 25 and i have a 25k budget for the swap and whichever ones easier(shop or swap) ill do it.

SR20DETpower
02-11-2004, 11:52 PM
25k?

S13 silvia front end, small block chevy, fuel injected.

for all those parts and car, what 5k?

installation, 5k

long tube headers, mandrel bend 3" exhaust. 1.5k

Drivetrain, wheels, tires, 7k

6.5k to rebuild a chevy small block, such as a Lt1 preferably. Forged pistons, rods, forged crank, new heads, cam, valvetrain, computer, block work....

look on face when someone sees a 9second 240sx whipping your ass without a doubt, and the whole time sounding like a dragster, priceless.




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I hear horror stories of people paying shops 20k to install a Rb26 into a S13. 5k for parts isn't going to do a RB26 much justice if u want badass speed. Then u still have other things to worry about, accesory pieces(exhaust, drivetrain, wheels, tires, differential, transmission, labor, or any body work) I think you are over budget.

infi
02-12-2004, 05:17 AM
an american engine in a japanese car is just... wrong... :sly:

musicsurfman
02-12-2004, 08:32 AM
Z06ETR: I COULD HELP YOU ACHEIVE YOUR GOALS ON THAT BUDGET. WRITE UP A LIST OF WHAT YOU WANT YOUR CAR TO ACHIEVE AND EMAIL IT TO ME: PROJECTRB240SX@HOTMAIL.COM I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT IS THE EASIEST AND CHEAPEST WAY TO GET THERE. IF YOU ARE MECHANICALLY INCLINED I CAN EVEN HELP YOU WITH THE SWAP.

SR20DETpower
02-12-2004, 09:10 AM
my dad is a smart person, he's been a mechanic for about 35 years. He always tells me the best ride is a lightweight import car with an american v8 car. I didn't always believe this until I was actually shown the light hehe. Lets jus say stepping on the gas in a camaro gives a better feeling then doing it in a civic. Now putting that v8 into a car like a rx7, 240sx, miata, mr2, will really make a fast car.


people can swap stock v8's into some cars and be in low 13's and 12's.. that is fast for a street car with a stock engine.

musicsurfman
02-12-2004, 09:47 AM
The Miata With A V8 Is Better Than Stock Handling And Power Wise..... The 240z Is Even Better With A V8..... As For A 240sx I'm Not Sure How The Car Will React As Its Hard Enough To Keep The Car From Spinning Tires And Sliding.

Ace$nyper
02-12-2004, 10:06 AM
nother great one but if anyone of you try to get on my dream cars nuts i'll have to shank you hobo style the Sunbeam tiger Shebly. had gt350 motor in it weighted like 1400lbs RWD fugging ill like the plauge.

musicsurfman
02-12-2004, 10:36 AM
Hahahaha The Sunbeam! But, With Some Lovin They Were Performers.

SR20DETpower
02-12-2004, 12:38 PM
I know someone with a Sunbeam Tiger

has a stock Ford 289 hi Performance engine

it roasts them through 3rd gear.... all this on a stock engine. Face it the more u spend on the car the more it requires, even a set of headers will reduce reliabilty and increase maintenance costs. Imagine upgrading turbos, rebuilding the engine, different cams... even in a Chevy or a RB26 they are not going to last long if built up compared to a completely stock engine from the factory. Good luck rebuilding your RB when it blows in a couple months, and it will. Atleast the Chevy is cheaper to build and parts/blocks are 100x more availble then rb26 parts in the US.



275 Drag Radials, wide wheels, good Clutch Differential, some new suspension pieces in the rear, I don't see a problem with traction.

Chuki_breath
02-12-2004, 02:33 PM
why u say it will blow in a couple of months????

mynismo
02-12-2004, 03:25 PM
dont do american in import car. i've been there, done that (400ci in a 300zx)

the car handles like crap and is very scary to be in

plus it breaks down every week


go with rb25 or rb26

SR20DETpower
02-12-2004, 04:59 PM
yeah but u had a shitty car, with a shitty engine, with a shitty transmission, stock suspension, open differential, stock sized tires. You can't use any of your power.

small block chevy is probably one of the most reliable engines if not race driven, they will go for hundreds of thousands of miles. The 700r4 sucks compared to other chevy transmissions, and who knows if it was already hurting before the prior owner sold it. There was a reason he sold it LOL.

now if your old z31 had wider tires, a LSD, a set of springs and struts at the least, better exhaust, new carb/manifold... it would haul MAJOR ass and easily be in the 12's with some playing around. A 350ci new camaro ran low 12's in the 1/4 stock, why wouldn't a 400ci 300zx run the same if not more?



look at how fast a 240sx can be with a 250hp KA24de, some guys run in the twelves. Why do people think an import engine with 250hp is faster then an american engine with 350hp? The end result is they both produce a measurable amount of power to move the vehicle.


I like imports, look at my screename. But when it comes down to someone wanting to make power on a budget of any sorts, you can't beat the high displacement.

infi
02-13-2004, 04:16 AM
Lets jus say stepping on the gas in a camaro gives a better feeling then doing it in a civic. Now putting that v8 into a car like a rx7, 240sx, miata, mr2, will really make a fast car.


may be, may be, but who the heck will pay the gas bill? and more fuel consumption means more pollution as well (americans don't think that way I know :D we pay 4 times more for fuel :P)... if you want the feel of a camaro o_O go get a camaro

and what I wanted to say in first place, it is "ethically" wrong to rape a nice japanese car by putting in an american v8 block, those belong to muscle cars and not to small japanese cars, if you're building a race car, well go ahead, though you will mess up the weight, your solution is just not suited for everyday use

SR20DETpower
02-16-2004, 10:01 AM
see thats exactly my point. on the whole, japanese cars are lighter and more nimble, American cars are heavier and don't handle as good. So many people stand so strongly behind a POS when it comes to cars they aren't open to new ideas. Sure a 240sx is good, so is a Camaro, but how about a 240sx with a camaro engine, now we are getting somewhere.

Lightweight/NImble+High Torque/reliability=better then any of the single cars by themself.

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