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Chrysler 2.7L Engine Problems


Oldengineer
02-02-2004, 09:46 PM
Has anyone had an engine failure because of timing chain lubrication problems. Apparently the guys that own Intrepids and Concordes are having big problems. My Sebring has the same engine, only turned sideways.

Regards:
Oldengineer

eleyebee
02-12-2004, 09:17 AM
If you check out www.daimlerchryslerproblems.com you should get some idea about the problems people are experiencing. It doesn't look promising. Sorry!

eleyebee
02-12-2004, 09:24 AM
Sorry, the web address is www.diamlerchryslervehicleproblems.com.

Oldengineer
02-13-2004, 09:44 PM
I checked out the website. Apparently the problem is primarily with the 1999 & 2000 model years. Chrysler apparently modified the design after that to eliminate the problems.

Regards:
Oldengineer

Lewiscopy
10-26-2004, 02:31 PM
I checked out the website. Apparently the problem is primarily with the 1999 & 2000 model years. Chrysler apparently modified the design after that to eliminate the problems.

Regards:
Oldengineer

On August 26, 2004, The Center for Automotive Safety sent a letter to Dieter Zetsche, CEO of Daimler Chrysler. In their letter they document nearly 500 engine failures due to sludge buildup. Facing similar problems with their engines, Toyota and Volkswagen have elected to etxend their warrantees to cover engine failures. Chrysler has done no such thing, apparently claiming that all 500 engine failures were due to improper maintenenace, despite the fact that many complainants have receipts showing 3000 mile oil change intervals (manual calls for 7500). Repair costs ranged as high as $9500, averaging $5200. For the full 9-page text of the letter, visit http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?did=961&scid=122
For more info, Google on "Chrysler 2.7 engine failure". You'll also find a site for a potential class action lawsuit.

rep2714
04-03-2006, 11:21 AM
Has anyone had an engine failure because of timing chain lubrication problems. Apparently the guys that own Intrepids and Concordes are having big problems. My Sebring has the same engine, only turned sideways.

Regards:
Oldengineer
Yes I have a 01 Sebring LXI, motor is junk because of sludge buildup and timming chain failure.

leadpaint
09-11-2006, 12:30 PM
I have the same engine in a 2002 Sebring...
Is there a way to tell if the engine is BEGINNING to build up any oil sludge, so that it can be treated before it gets too late?? Does the car show any signs? I still have warranty left!

THanks
lp

kvaughn
10-31-2006, 03:39 PM
Does anyone know how we can detect sludge without tearing into the engine? What physicial changes might be made to our vehicle to minimize this problem (vents, etc.).

Charwatkin
03-18-2007, 01:03 PM
:banghead: Well, well, well......... here I am...... and the problem is NOT limited to the older vehicles. I own a 2004 Sebring with a 2.7L and one week ago last night had my engine light pop on.

I had been noticing that my engine would stall.... especially after being on the expressway for a while. I had about 34,676 miles when it happened. Mostly highway b/c we live right off the highway in a small town..... right between each of our work, stores, etc. Not much city driving.

Had an exhaust problem, so took it right in & suggested they changed my oil while they had it. They fixed the exhaust.... had to keep it for a few days for parts to come in, changed the oil ....... and guess what???? I was informed I had a "sludge problem" HUH????

SOUND FAMILIAR???? Picked it up yesterday & started doing research on the Internet....... What the heck??? How can they get away with this? We've been frantically printing all our info to take into the Dealership tomorrow. Are they CRAZY or What :screwy:

Charwatkin
03-18-2007, 01:11 PM
I found a site that says to take a sample of your oil & send it to a lab such aswww.blackstone-labs.com where they can test it for coolant & water comtamination, excess fuel vapors which can cause sludge. I've also seen that it's a defect in the way the engine is made - narrow passages that cause the engine to over heat. This may help prove that there is an internal problem & not from your neglect.

prickey2000
03-05-2011, 07:43 AM
Yes, I have experienced the timing chain problem. I have a 2004 Chrysler Sebring. Last year, our oil light started flickering so we took the car to our mechanic. He told us about the problems with the 2.7 liter engine and told us we needed to replace the oil pump. Since Chrysler saw fit to place the oil pump inside the engine, this was expensive. We also had the water pump replaced at the same time.
A couple of months after spending about $1000 to keep from having our engine blow, I was driving down the interstate and my car just stopped running. Turns out the timing chain broke causing my engine to blow. Apparently Chrysler made the timing chain about 20 times longer on this make of engine than a regular timing chain, which makes it prone to break. Our mechanic told me that Dodge/Chrysler is now telling mechanics to replace the timing chain at the same time they replace the oil pumpótoo late for when we had our pump replaced. My engine is now shot and has been sitting in our mechanicís lot while we look for a new engine.
The worst part is that we also have another Sebring which is also sitting in our mechanicís lot for the same problems, this time starting with the water pump. Repairs will probably run about $1500 on that car so we now have, not one, but two very expensive lawn ornaments, as someone else put it. We have always maintained the cars with oil changes every 3-4k miles. We still owe on his car and cannot afford another car right now. Fortunately, we still have a Chrysler Towne & Country that runs (for how long, I wonder? It is starting to have electrical problems), but we have 3 drivers in the family who need vehicles.
I know there are class action suits against Chrysler for not recalling this model engine, but I havenít been able to find out how to join one. Anyone know?

tiltaplenty
03-07-2011, 07:17 PM
hi, I have owned 3 seabrings and loved the 1st 2. I now have a 2004 with the 2.7 and changed the oild regularly. 84,000 miles drove it to work and every thing was dandy. Came out to leave and it rolled over about two times and died. Mechanic says the motor is seized up, no warning light, not a temp warning when I was driving to work. Has anyone been helped out by chysler for their engine repair? Or they just giving it to the small guy? I know there is a class action lawsuit, anyway to join in? Would love to have some info back. email if you want @
tiltaplenty@frontier.com

Abouttowne
08-17-2011, 09:00 PM
Just bought one 1.5 months ago. Only drove 922 miles and engine seized on hwy. Dealer said when bought that was just low on oil and they added. They lied to us, now have 5 years to pay on dead vehicle. Car rated 4.5 out of 5? No mention about engine problems. Engine design issues through 2004. Dealer will not return calls.

mark44004
10-05-2011, 11:38 AM
I just bought a 2006 sebring limited with the 2.7. I see most the problems in this thread deal with cars up to 2004. Anything problematic with the 2006's or newer?

James45
03-31-2012, 12:19 AM
I have an '04 Sebring convertible with the 2.7 liter. It has 115K miles now and I've never had any challenges with the engine at all.

stuckwithone
04-12-2012, 10:41 PM
I just bought a 2006 Chrysler Sebring with the 2.7L engine and 134k. I had it for less than two weeks when apparently it overheated with no temp gauge indication or signs whatsoever. I shut it off because it started acting sluggish. Then it wouldn't start- maybe a "too hot" sensor? Turns out there was a hairline crack in the thermostat housing that leaked coolant when it heated up. Now I'm looking at a possible spun bearing and or some other internal repair. Still runs but makes awful noise above 35mph. Mechanic says new engine needed at $6K!! Probably just tear it apart and fix it myself. No regret here:shakehead

butchz
07-10-2012, 08:12 AM
2002 2.7 sebring could a bad oil pressure switch cause fans not to work if i pull fan relay fans will start replaced temp censer no change

stuckwithone
07-10-2012, 11:38 PM
Been a while since I posted here. I've since had my engine replace with a new one by the dealer. Cheapest way to go! With regular oil changes/maintenance, I expect to get lots of mileage out of it! Enjoying this car now.

Butchz, you might check out this link: http://en.allexperts.com/q/Chrysler-Repair-807/2011/9/2002-chrysler-sebring-cooling.htm

I'm no expert with this car. I don't think an oil pressure switch would cause cooling fan issues though.

46streetrod
10-08-2012, 08:02 AM
I owned a 02 Sebring w/ a 2.7 engine in it. I bought the car about 2 months ago from a selller on craigslist. Mistake number one. After only driving it for 3 weeks it ran hot. Found a crack in the sensor housing so I replaced that. No big deal I thought. A couple of days after that the engine started losing water everytime it was driven. Water pump went out. I take it to the repair shop for a waterpump and a seeping oilpan gasket plus oil sending unit. Repairs were made and the shop calls on the day I was to pick it up to tell me something else was wrong with the engine. Boiling water out each time they tried to fill it. Headgasket now. Shop has a good used late model engine with 42k mile on it. Replacing my engine would now cost $2300.00. Already agree to the $1000.00 for replacing the water, etc. but the shop is willing to knock off 500 bucks bringing the total now down to $1800.00. Shop agreed to take the new parts from my engine and put all in the used engine and do the swap. They will guarranty the engine and repairs for 90 days.
Should have listened to my son in law when he told me NOT to buy the car with the 2.7. Its junk!!! Its a money pit. Now we have too much money in this car to sale it so we're stuck.

unhappy camper
05-02-2013, 09:28 PM
I bought this car in a rush mistake #1 before buying I took this car to a new mechanic I was still testing out mistake #2. His exact words "this is a great car very well maintained etc etc. " haven't had any serious problems out of it yet other then the fact that it drinks oil on the hwy and I'm not talkin sip put in a little oil on roadtrips NO I mean carry 5 qts of oil at all times. On top of the getting oil changed every 2000 miles. Went to sell the car before anything seious happens to carmax and color me surprised they said it was an awesome ride and offered me $1000. Now I would be stoked except for the fact that less then 6 months earlier payed a little over double for it. Its a fun car to drive until it goes belly up with no warning and turns into the worlds biggest paper weight.

jamesslcx
05-18-2013, 02:44 PM
Old thread I know but one of the secrets of getting a lot of miles out of these engines is regular water pump replacement every 70,000 miles. My sister-in-law has had 243,000 miles of good service out of her 02 Sebring, along with proper maintenance of course.

rpdenney
01-12-2014, 01:48 PM
Old thread I know but one of the secrets of getting a lot of miles out of these engines is regular water pump replacement every 70,000 miles. My sister-in-law has had 243,000 miles of good service out of her 02 Sebring, along with proper maintenance of course.

I agree. I have a 2003 Sebring Convertible, and it has 181k miles. I have not had any major issues. I have changed the oil every 3-5k.

However, my engine just started knocking, and it appears I may have a spun bearing. Anyone have a good source for reasonably priced 2.7L convertible engines?:smile:

Ironhorse59
01-24-2014, 06:13 PM
I bought a 2006 Chrysler Sebring with the 2.7L engine and 300k. I had it for less than six months when apparently it overheated with no temp gauge indication or signs whatsoever. I shut it off because it started acting sluggish. Then it wouldn't start- maybe a "too hot" sensor? Turns out there was a hairline crack in the thermostat housing that leaked coolant when it heated up hat was found by the second mechanic and a thousand dollars. Everything seemed to work fine then winter came and I have no heat until I get over 100kmh and the windows frost up.I had the thermostat changed twice.

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