Scion Supra


JSpecSupra
02-02-2004, 04:37 PM
Everyone knows that Toyota owns a new company called Scion now, i have heard the rumor that the toyota Supra is to be brought back in a few years in the scion name called the scion xS. The company hasnt been around long enough to know if it will do well so they are waiting to see how the company does before they produce more cars, right now they only have 2 cars in production and 1 on its way.

Pugbug288
02-02-2004, 08:52 PM
It's not getting built. There is no supra. Toyota even said it.

HotBoys09
02-02-2004, 09:14 PM
pugbug, read "car and driver" and "road & track" they speak to those people directly...you on the otherhand, do not.

projectsupramk3
02-03-2004, 04:18 PM
Alright this is very disturbing so to those who really love the Supra's heritage I suggest you don't read this, Toyota has just trashed the legacy. I quote from the March 2004 R&T,
"Toyota Supra Hybrid
Toyota will soon be introducing a hybrid SUV based on the Lexus RX330. And we hear that is will set the stage for Toyota's next big hybrid project, a sports car. It makes perfect sence for Toyota, a global leader in hybrid technology, to create a sports car with a hybrid twist. The new-wave Toyota 2+2 is rumored to produce at least 300BHP, sending power to all four wheels, using a similar system incorperated into the RX330.
The CS&S concept car displayed at the Geneva auto show was apparently a tease. Rated at olny 145BHP, the CS&S was created to gauge public opinion of a possable hybrid sports car. The reaction from the media and public was good, so Toyota may have decided to go foward with the program. This 300-BHP hybrid sports car would fill the void left by the Supra a few years ago. -SM"
Then it has a pic of a discustingly ugly SUV/sports car with a Toyota badge and 4 seats. :disappoin :swear:

Pugbug288
02-03-2004, 06:30 PM
http://wardsauto.com/ar/auto_toyota_wont_bring/index.htm
These guy's talked to Toyota too. I am interested as to what Toyota said to Car and Driver. From what Road and Track said it has nothing to do with a supra, only speculation.

projectsupramk3
02-03-2004, 06:49 PM
Yes I know it was only speculation, I was just relaying the information, personally I think and will always think the Supra died with the last MKIV produced. Toyota can do whatever they want because they stopped designing cars for the driver, for the enthusiast along time ago. Now everything is built for economy, for efficiency, for clean air standards, I just don't want to see the day when no one knows the feeling of what it's like to drive for pleasure instead of for transportation.

HotBoys09
02-04-2004, 07:44 PM
Yes I know it was only speculation, I was just relaying the information, personally I think and will always think the Supra died with the last MKIV produced. Toyota can do whatever they want because they stopped designing cars for the driver, for the enthusiast along time ago. Now everything is built for economy, for efficiency, for clean air standards, I just don't want to see the day when no one knows the feeling of what it's like to drive for pleasure instead of for transportation.

That is EXACTLY what makes my nerves rotate in my body. They stopped making all of the Road Deamons that we have come to love i.e. Camaro, Trans Am, Supra, Stealth, 3000GT, RX-7**, and 300ZX**

And Why??? Insurance, Fuel Economy, Price...it's not fair when our roads are over taken with Hybrid, fuel eco work shuttles!!

** They came out with the RX-8, 350Z, and all of the hype about these cars before production was that these were going to outperform their predecessors in every aspect...while maintaining a N/A powerplant, but I'm very sorry, I and others feel let down. I was much happier with the attainable exotics we had throughout the eighties and nineties. R.I.P.

My :2cents:

projectsupramk3
02-04-2004, 09:25 PM
Amen brother, my sentiments exactly. The truely sad thing is that because of the way people like you and me think, because we don't buy into the hype and shiny crap glued onto the new econo-boxes, is that the big compaines don't care about us. So now I say good by to the legends... :sadwavey: I'll build my own car before I ever buy a new one, and with the current "kit car" laws/regulations it makes it easy for me to make it legal.

HotBoys09
02-04-2004, 10:18 PM
Now I understand everything my dad and uncles' say when they talk about getting an old monster from back in the 60's-70's cause that was pride to them. They see the cars that we admire and laugh, cause to them there a joke. They would rather get and old BEAST, blow it, strip it and lay some lurch-like tires on the back of that monster and it rules. And by all means there right. But let us get our hands dirty with an R34, with some nice tires, gigantic turbos, and some computer/breathing mods, and there neck and neck. We just have to be true with what we know. And I LOVE IT! That's why Im on this forum like a zombie night after night and giving all my buddies a hand on hooking their cars up. :evillol:

tireburner86
08-13-2004, 01:24 PM
i sure hope some hybrid-high toyota car designer sees this thread. the only car on toyotas line up that even fuckin belongs in the u.s./canada is the v8 tacoma. maybe the celica, bu i hear theyre ax-ing it. oh, my bad, dont forget the sienna!

supraslug007
09-05-2004, 08:08 AM
After awhile, we won't even be able to BUILD our own cars... lots of states have laws now where a car title can't be upgraded from junk... so if you find a ferrari in the junkyard because the owner didn't want to buy new plugs for it.. too bad...

SUPRA_MKIV
09-05-2004, 06:57 PM
It's not getting built. There is no supra. Toyota even said it.
dude..........when did they say there will be no new supra?

SupraZone
09-17-2004, 04:58 PM
Everyone knows that Toyota owns a new company called Scion now, i have heard the rumor that the toyota Supra is to be brought back in a few years in the scion name called the scion xS. The company hasnt been around long enough to know if it will do well so they are waiting to see how the company does before they produce more cars, right now they only have 2 cars in production and 1 on its way.

My 2 cents even though this thread is from February... ;)
The Scion tC (http://www.yoursciontc.com) has been out now for several months and the obvious trend throughout the Scion line is the low price. I doubt Toyota would produce anything that could come close to the MKIV and sell it for a price that Scion's target audience can afford. The main concept behind the Scion line is to get younger non-toyota drivers into Toyotas via Scions and have them buy a Toyota or Lexus in the future...

lazysmurff
09-17-2004, 05:07 PM
And Why??? Insurance, Fuel Economy, Price...it's not fair when our roads are over taken with Hybrid, fuel eco work shuttles!!


ok, i know what you said is oppinion, i know i dont frequent this forum ever (in fact, ive never even driven a supra) but none of thats important. what id like to point out is that we NEED to start accepting hybrid cars onto the road. this is something we should be excited about, not loathing.

given the rising cost of gasoline, the projected remaining years of oil and the unwillingness of american car companies to comply with EPA requirements, we HAVE to start a transfer to hybrid cars. we cant rely on gas forever, as much as we would like to.

and whoever stated that hybrids are slow? i invite you to do your research on them and you'll discover that there are many prototype hybrids that turn some serious numbers.

fast cars will never go away, as long as guys like you and me are around. but they will start running on something different and you need to start accepting that, and your children will thank you for not destroying the environment any further in the process

tireburner86
09-18-2004, 09:43 AM
this is true, but i hope that they can rework the ICE so that it would run on something like hydrogen...its already worked, but not many people have seen it in action. add to that, open up more oil recycling plants across the world and it should make a big difference. because honestly, what would you like to hear under your hood? a ground-pounding v8 or screaming 4 banger, or a leafblower/vacuum cleaner combo?

CaTasHtRoPhE 67
09-18-2004, 12:15 PM
the only way to find out if there will be one is to wait and see

SUPRA_MKIV
09-18-2004, 02:02 PM
dude..........when did they say there will be no new supra?
see...you couldnt answer me...they didnt say it....

7M > V8
09-29-2004, 10:37 AM
The technology for cars to use fuels other than gas could have been used years and year ago, but it would crush the worlds economy.. the whole "running out of oil" thing doesn't really matter. You could use hydrogen powered engines with synthetic oil, which is better anyway, and build hot rods just as well as with gasoline.

But we as people do not control when a change will be made, only time can. Having these crappy hybrid cars is not something I will participate in...If a new fuel that is more economic but still puts rubber on the pavement is introduced somehow without killing the economy, I will partake.

TRD_Toyota
10-03-2004, 11:11 AM
Yeah.. 7M > V8... its called the RX 400H... the Extremely Popular Lexus Hybrid.. they managed to marry the RX 330's 3.3L V6 with the hybrid engine... according to all the reviews ive read it has more power and more torque than the regular RX 330 but this one gets about 1000 KM.. umm like 650 miles to the tank.... and i can tell you one thing... i can already make the tires on the rx 330 squeal... more power... more torque... easier to squeal the tires.. makes sence no... AS well Toyota is releasing the Highlander Hybrid.. same deal as the lexus ;)

7M > V8
10-05-2004, 11:28 AM
So it's electronically assisted? Its still no major performer. I won't fall to the gimic of hybrid automobiles reguardless of what mpg you get, its just another way to get people to waste their money by thinking they are saving some.

I mean gas really is cheap.. 2 $ a gallon is nothing compared to most other countries. My afternoon vehicle is there for pleasure and I don't care how much gas i burn.. my to and from work ride is a civic, sure i'd rather it be a hybrid but 25 mpg is not burning a hole in my pocket, not enough to convince me to spend too much money on a hybrid car.

If you want to reply please PM or start a new thread this one is older than my relationship with my mk3.

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