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chales56
01-28-2004, 11:24 PM
ok, i have a wealthy friend, whos parents are giveing him 30k to spend on a car. at first he wanted a supra tt but now hes think going no trubo then investin all the rest into to make it a turbo, which one would be a wiser choice? And how much more work would it be to turbo a N/A car, then to just get a TT one?

94preludeSI
01-28-2004, 11:44 PM
I vote N/A

Chavez408
01-28-2004, 11:51 PM
i vote for clinton!


let me get this straight his parents are giving him 30k for a car and his choices are a non supra and a tt supra am i correct? but the money that his parents are giving him is just for the car itself, so if he gets the non turbo supra whoss gonna pay for the mods?

ill go with the tt from the start because to me its just too much work making a non turbo car into a turbo car or tt car. but witchever way your friend goes i wish him g/l :thumbsup:

SpaceManSpiff
01-29-2004, 12:00 AM
I vote TT, mostly due to the fact that with another couple of grand, it will run 11s with ease... and I'm not sure how durable the n/t engine is.

Either that, or tell him to get an r32 skyline from motorex.

mycivic
01-29-2004, 12:05 AM
Your friend is lucky to have things given to him (Nothing still compares to hard earned money for my car). Anyways, I'd get the TT. Just my 2cents.

youngvr4
01-29-2004, 12:21 AM
go turbo cause usually the n/a version doesnt have evrthing the turbo has as far as engine strength and its just easier to go with turbo's already in. BPU are easy and simple.

luxuriouslyloudz
01-29-2004, 12:53 AM
I'd probally go with N/A to mod later....this way when at the local perdormance shop I can have this short convo:
Store employee: Nice 'Dawg' you got there, is it the twin turbo?
Me: Nah, but I DID just save a bunch a money on my insurance

I'm looking at 5200 a year if I got a TT Mk.4
Only 2600 for the N/A

Yeah,Ill take not boost with the second one....

smoke
01-29-2004, 01:10 AM
go with the tt i did and then buy a single turbo kit like me a t66 or t78 and it will be putting 570 to 650 rwhp down with just the kit then you can buy things like the exhaust, boost controlers, bov,etc my t78 is great for 28psi and there are not many cars that can keep up with me when i am at 20-22psi only tuned vipers,tuned 996tt,tuned z06, 550's i just tell you what none stock how about that!!!!!

Chavez408
01-29-2004, 01:15 AM
another thing is that it seems that your friend well your friend's parents have deep pockets so just tell tell em you want the TT and scratch their pockets for more money for your mods lol your friend has it easy

rysbrnr
01-29-2004, 02:28 AM
ok, i have a wealthy friend, whos parents are giveing him 30k to spend on a car. at first he wanted a supra tt but now hes think going no trubo then investin all the rest into to make it a turbo, which one would be a wiser choice? And how much more work would it be to turbo a N/A car, then to just get a TT one?

This can't possibly be a serious question...??

Given the situation of the rich kid, who da hell would buy the non-turbo over the TT?

...As if it's that easy to just slap on a turbo kit, like a honda, and expect it to be better than the TT.

With the TT model you get bigger brakes , already lowered compression so you can run insane boost levels, better intake manifold, larger OEM wheels, etc.... and best of all it's ALREADY turbo'ed to begin with. Why get an N/A and mess with turbo kits, tuning, labor, and lots of other little things that a rich newbie ricer wouldn't think of? It's not THAT easy to bolt-on a turbo kit and "run 10's" Brian Spilner.

The only advantage of getting a N/A Supra is lower insurance. If you're a rich kid.... who cares about insurance costs?

Make the rich kid's life simpler, tell him to GET THE SUPRA TWIN TURBO! Better yet, buy an already modded one. 450hp+ BPU'ed Supras are everywhere for under $30,000.

youngvr4
01-29-2004, 03:56 AM
yeah thats what i meant :iagree:

Bloodhound
01-29-2004, 04:52 AM
If he doesn't know a lot about cars, tell him to get the twin turbo model, seen as he won't have the brains to work out how not to turn it into a retarded dog's breakfast. If he really is serious about racing and wants to get involved later on down the track, I feel the N/A is a much better option seen as you won't have to pay extra for tiny CT series turbos you'll end up replacing in the search for more boost. Best not to start with a genuine performance model if your intent is to run quick times on much less money, although you could gain revenue by selling of the turbos in the replacement procedure, although it would be minimal. Ask the guy what he wants and try to help him decide on whats going to suit his tastes long term.

Ace$nyper
01-29-2004, 10:39 AM
neither get a 84 accord

YogsVR4
01-29-2004, 11:49 AM
:bs:
One of the following is true. The parents are willing to buy a car up to 30K. The parents are giving him 30K in which case he can buy whatever he wants (buy a Civic and invest the rest. Ten years from now you can buy a used Vanquish). The last one and the one that I believe is that there is no friend with 30K deciding between a NA and Turbo Supra :disappoin

1QUICK2
01-29-2004, 12:41 PM
Why is this even a question. The worst mistake I ever made was when I bough my 91 N/A MR2. Its much less to deal with when its already turbo. BPU's will get you into the 11's. Go to www.suprastore.com and read-up on their upgrades. Plus if your young and drive a stock or slow car, 11's are more that you could bargain for.

Self
01-29-2004, 02:29 PM
First off I agree with Yogs...it is a very "odd" question...But to answer it...Get NEITHER. Get a used C5 and turbo THAT. Neither of the other two will be able to keep up with you when they're stock OR modded:biggrin:

My second choice would be something NEW. A brand spakin' new car. Anything you like as long as it's new. Far fewer problems to deal with.

TatII
01-29-2004, 02:36 PM
stock 2jz-gte motor ( the twin turbo for the guy who might not know ) can handle over 900 hp at the wheels on stock bottom end.

stock 2jz-ge motor ( non turbo motor ) might take 400 hp at the wheels max.

hmmmmm 400 vs. 900. i'll take 900. plus there is another big factor. the twin turbo comes 6 speed when the crappy non turbo only comes 5 speed. and the 6 speed is proven to be bullet proof. not much is known about the 5 speed though, but i doubt it would be as strong.

another thing to consider. the stock n/a has shitty ass small single piston brakes. when the the TT has big 4 piston brakes up front, and 2 piston brakes in the back which totals to 12 piston brakes all around vs. 4 pistons all around.

fatninja19
01-29-2004, 03:58 PM
My second choice would be something NEW. A brand spakin' new car. Anything you like as long as it's new. Far fewer problems to deal with.


I second that.


OR....





Just get a LS1... Unbeatable.. plain and simple.

DkShadow
01-30-2004, 03:46 AM
I vote none. Why the hell is this kids parents going to buy them a TT Supra? I hope its not his first car and really hope hes not a teenager or were going to have another dead kid because he was being the dumbass and tried to show off infront of people.

Max Boost
01-30-2004, 08:46 AM
Shit, if my parents gave me 30k to spend, I'd buy me an EVO, or grab a Skyline from Motorex. Most of the used for sale Supras in my area cost maybe 20k at the highest, and even then those are the already modified ones.

rysbrnr
01-30-2004, 09:34 AM
Most of the used for sale Supras in my area cost maybe 20k at the highest, and even then those are the already modified ones.

I'm looking for a Supra TT as we speak. Lemme know the next time you see a twin turbo in your area for around 20k. I think there's less than 5 supra TT's that I've EVER seen in Iowa...and some of them had out of state plates.

fatninja19
01-30-2004, 12:24 PM
Shit, if my parents gave me 30k to spend, I'd buy me an EVO, or grab a Skyline from Motorex. Most of the used for sale Supras in my area cost maybe 20k at the highest, and even then those are the already modified ones.


20k at the highest for a mkiv TT supra? Wow.. Where do you live???



And nice collection of cars Rysbrnr.

Max Boost
01-31-2004, 03:40 PM
Fort Worth Texas

TatII
02-01-2004, 11:50 AM
the original poster is probrably not goin to see this, but anyways, another advantage for the TT. it has a higher redline, and taller gears if you want to go past 180mph :)

IAmCman
02-04-2004, 11:04 PM
ok, i have a wealthy friend, whos parents are giveing him 30k to spend on a car. at first he wanted a supra tt but now hes think going no trubo then investin all the rest into to make it a turbo, which one would be a wiser choice? And how much more work would it be to turbo a N/A car, then to just get a TT one?

Easy! The answer is....


























Neither! lol

If he's that rich....tell him to buy a used NSX, you can get em in good condition for about 30 grand. :D

look at www.nsxprime.com

chales56
02-09-2004, 06:36 PM
ok, he bought a car, suprised me cause he has always been about supras.

he bought a 93 rx-7 turbo

he gets it this friday

fatninja19
02-09-2004, 06:47 PM
ok, he bought a car, suprised me cause he has always been about supras.

he bought a 93 rx-7 turbo

he gets it this friday

Lucky bastard! I hope he knows how to work on cars... or at least knows a trusty mechanic!

YogsVR4
02-10-2004, 08:44 PM
Yikes - those RX7s can be a bear to work on.

90Stangjc
02-11-2004, 11:49 PM
Yep, those little rotaries are the most breakenest things you can come across. But hey, the car still hauls balls.

fatninja19
02-12-2004, 12:43 AM
Ya.. Rx7 would be a bad assed weekend car.. but too much hassle for a daily driver.

TatII
02-12-2004, 02:31 PM
i have a friend with a FD. hes on his second engine. and he hangs out with a bunch of FD guys who are all either on their 2nd or 3rd engines. hahahha but yeah, they're quick.

chales56
02-12-2004, 09:00 PM
the thing is, it doesnt really matter if you have money.

since he can afford to get a new engine

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