I've come to the conclusion I want a RWD but don't know which one.
don't like mustangs. I pretty much like all other RWd cars I can think of.
I'd like to pick one up for 2-3K. aftermarket is a +. I'm wanting 10's or 11's It would be a long term project.

oh and I like stick shifts.

marcus

Hmm Just get a bike and get over it.

I'd like to pick one up for 2-3K. aftermarket is a +. I'm wanting 10's or 11's It would be a long term project.



:lol:


Whatever you get for two to three thousand dollars, will most likely be a mid-15 second car. Regardless of make and model, that's probably be the fastest you'll get it... cause it will most likely be driven to hell and back and sold to some sucker for two to three thousand...


Then you want it to be a low 11 to high 10 second car... Got about ten to twelve grand? That's what it's going to take to get whatever it is into that speed range.

She most likely will not be streetable once it's that extreme. I know people say they drive cars that go that fast daily, but the comfort factor of a car that's been tuned that much is way low.


:lol: Your best bet is to get like a '88-93 Mustang Fox body Mustang LX Coupe. They're light as feather for a V8 - RWD car. Build up a 347ci stroker with Nitrous, put some fast slicks on it. And Bam, easy 11s. This combo could still be considered streetable, just depends on how much nitrous you use. Probably take $10,000 to build, gotta figure in building the motor, rebuilding the transmission, setting the car up with drag suspension, and a stronger rearend. It add's up real quick.

Or get a '91-'94 Nissan 240sx Coupe, once again it's a bit lighter than the fastback model just like the Mustang. I personally, would just build up the KA motor. Why? It's got a Iron block, and comes stock with fairly low compression. Just rebuild the motor so it can take lots of boost, then slap a turbo kit and a front mount intercooler. And slicks, Bam you could get into the low 12's fairly easily if you know what you're doing... to go faster won't be much harder. This car would probably cost around $8,000-$10,000 to build. I can assume the turbo kit w/ Intercooler will set you back around $3,000-$4000k depending on what size turbo and intercooler.

I'm not an expert at either car... but what I do know is that shit cost money to go fast... alot of money. Unless you know somebody who can get you parts for cheap it'll cost alot.

I hate cars. They cost too much. :mad:



:p :2cents:

um I paid $1000 for my car bought a $300 chip and am pulling mid-high 14's with a bad auto trans.

I meant 2-3K to get the car in stock form not already that fast. just have a motor that can be build to go that fast.
around here a mustang is a domestic civic everyone has one.
turbo+a 150 shot is what I'm going for engine wise. 3-4k for a kit baaah!
I would never buy a kit. my dad has a mig welder and is a ex welder along with two of my uncles. I'd fab everything. I know a something named ebay that gets me cheap parts :evillol: I have read alot about engines and turbos and am fairly certain I could get that fast(with a v8)

I'm leaning towards a 3rd gen camaro with a TPI 350block destroked to a 302 with twin turbos. desktop dyno puts that setup at around 500hp at 15psi. add a 150 shot and boost the boost with race gas and you have a killer engine. I know there is more to a fast car than a powerful engine but I'll get to that part when the engine breaks it.


thanks for your input


marcus

That's another thing I thought of bringing up, if you fabricated everything yourself and bought things from Ebay. You could obviously cut the costs down incredibly.

If you've got the means to do it... why are you asking us? :p


Go do it already. :biggrin:

I was just unsure as to which car to build up.



marcus

Oh boy, a third gen TPI...

How quick can you make the TPIs? Im JW.

Man if you want a hella fast car get an RX-7 3rd generation. Throw out the 13B engine. Buy a 20b engine and triple sequential turbo the beast. That will give you about 550 hp. Itll be light as hell and give ya a lil under 10 if ya do it right.

1: a FD3S ( RX-7 ) is goin to atleast 10K for a beat up one.
2: its hard to find a 20B motor.
3: the total cost already far exceeds his budget.

well you could find a fd rx7 that blew its apex seal for cheap and easy, finding the 20b cosmo will take some work but well worth it. I got to hear one at a local car show and dear god was it beastly.

yo r1-rider your sig is good but can you shorten it up any...
as for the rx -7 why not put the 20b in a gen 2 or het a porsche 914 and put a 350 in there

http://aomori.cool.ne.jp/james_c0328/4.wmv

That video will help you conclude your decision...

http://aomori.cool.ne.jp/james_c0328/4.wmv

That video will help you conclude your decision...


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH



You sir, are the man... that video rocked!

Whatever you get for two to three thousand dollars, will most likely be a mid-15 second car.
I bought Hyde for $1750 ...

how much power can a stock mr2 5speed transmission take?
also when you take off do ya go sideways of does it grip and go.




marcus

There are MR2s pushing high 500s/low 600 HP (low 10s) to the wheels on the OEM tranny.
The axles do need to be upgraded though ;)

http://www.mr2ownersclub.com/quartermile/
(there are some videos on there)

My car goes straight ... grips and goes.
I have videos of my runs here:
http://jekylandhyde.madpowaz.com/slips.htm

I will have to say an MR2 as well. Mt friend David just made 613rwhp on stock block w/ just pistons. The manifold is aftermarket, T76, and diff. ECU. Still going to put a 100 shot on top of it. Hyde is also a prime example of the potential these cars have.

I havent seen any MR2s being sold for less than 4 grand. And if they are, they have been junked to hell and/or with high mileage.

I havent seen any MR2s being sold for less than 4 grand. And if they are, they have been junked to hell and/or with high mileage.
I bought Hyde with 180,000 miles and dinged fender for $1750.
After 80+ drag races, 20 or so dyno pulls and abusive street driving ... we just did a compression check: 177, 177, 177, 177. :D
You couldn't get any more perfect. High miles isn't always a bad thing.

Yes, turbo MR2s usually ask top dollar if they are in good condition. It was never a high production car so their are fewer of them out there.

If I was looking to do 10s/11s cheap, the MR2 would not be my choice.
I am sure there is a pile of domestic cars that could do it easy and cheaper.

I only chose the MR2 for 1.4 mile racing becuase I like to do it in style and still be able to compete in an SCCA autocross or hill clilmb event ;)

It is costly to get an Mr2 into those times, but just drive one and feel how you fit perfectly into the interior. It is a very nice car with potential, and with a few cheap mods it is a very decent ride. Jekle, how does our cars do in autocross. I havent done any SOLO ll since I sold my miata I raced. I want to try it soon.

My cars both do well autocrossing.
If anything, the driver holds them back :)

I have also heard that your HP numbers are not so accurate as far as barametric press and so forth. Do you have cams in Hyde, and what kinda power is it really making. I just got my car together and am wondering what kind of times/traps to expect. I have hoped for times such as yours, but have heard that your car is much faster than one should be.

The "issue" with my tuning numbers was that the temperature sensor for the dyno was in an air conditioned room, while the actual dyno room was hot. How off are my numbers? ... probably not much.

My 11.8 run was done at 22psi, not the 20 psi my car was tuned at, so that is antoher 20 HP. So you figure I was somewhere over 328 rwhp on the 11.8 run. The injectros I am using are limited to 340 RWP, so that is the max I could have safely run.

So the 550's max out at 340? I also did not put cams in the car-BIG mistake, but I still hope to trap in the 115-120 range. You see my mods in the signature, do you think this is accurate? If it runs well for a while, I will do 264's and larger injectors with fuel pump.

You do not list what boost you are running ... trap speed is going to depend on power mostly. I would think IF your car is tuned well and you are runnign at least 20 psi of boost ... you should be able to clear 115 mph.

Over all rear tire diameter is also going to play a part.
Elevation of the track and outside temps will also play a part.

ROFL... those are the three funniest geeks i've ever seen. OMG ROFL

All the street racing OG's know what I'm going to say already :icon16:

Find a '79-85 RX7, lots of them around with blown engines, you can find a good one for under $500 with a straight body and decent interior. Junk the rotary and mazda tranny, you could probably make a few bucks parting it out.

Find a MAF equipped Ford 5.0 HO, they put them in the Mustang, Crown Vic, Thunderbird, Lincolns etc. Get one with the AOD, the T5 is a little on the weak side. Do a high performance rebuild, go with high compression, or nitrous, or a supercharger, whatever you want to make some power.

After the swap, the car will weigh around 2400lbs dry, and there is alot of weight that can be shed. Strip it out and get into fiberglass and you'll have a sub 2000lb car.

A stock 5.0 HO makes around 220hp, 300+lbft. Get into building it, cams, pistons, porting, headers, and you're talking 300hp. Get into nitrous or forced induction and the sky is the limit.

The swap is bolt in, the kit costs around $600 with everything you need.

The slowest this combo will do is mid 13s, that's for a box stock 5.0 in a box stock RX7 with stock tires, which are 185/13s, IIRC. Throw a good set of tires on and some bolt ons, and you're into the 12s. Rebuild the engine and give it a 150 shot, and you're running 10s.

Cheap, light, fast. What more could you want? Oh yeah, it can handle too. :iceslolan

2300 for the max... 14.9 stock

note the time in my sig --- i can't drive ;)

2300 for the max... 14.9 stock
That's RWD?

Jeykl>no, its front wheel drive......he cant stop talking about how fast his maxima is for the price he got it for, in his view i guess.

Jeykl>no, its front wheel drive......he cant stop talking about how fast his maxima is for the price he got it for, in his view i guess.
lol.... well I vote for keeping the conversation on topic, which clearly states RWD, not slow-wheel-drive.

I have a .9 liter 3-cylinder Turbo Sprint that will run a low 15 sec pass, but you do not see me posting it in here.
You do not see me mentioning that I only got it for $1700 ($50 cheaper than Hyde).
You surely do not see me pointing out that it is faster than Jekyl.
And you will never, ever (in this thread) see me post a photo of my quick litte Sprint that can be seen here:
http://jekylandhyde.madpowaz.com/sprint.JPG


*For the record 14.8 is not fast in my book. 13.2 -12.0 is fast in my book. 11.99 or better is just getting silly.
13.2 - 15.0 is "quick".
15.-16.5 is "pretty quick".
16.5 and slower IS.
How's that for brackets?

:D

R1, that has to be the funniest sig I've seen here! Who gives a shit how long it is! It's hilarious!

here are my options I've thought about:
88 fiero ---love it,cheaper than mr2, v8 swapable but has weak transmission

90's mr2 ---mid-engine, cool car, haven't seen one or driven one so I don't know anything about how they drive or anything.

f-body----v8 is cool but I don't like the look of the 80's models


stangs--- v8 cool, 60's are awesome,80's models I don't like, 90's are ok, 2K+ are cool



right now my transmission has about a month left in it so I'm working on getting the motor into the other car. then I'll be selling one and lookingfor a RWD.


marcus

84-87 vette 4000$. 3000$ in mods and your in the 11s.

well I may have found a RWD car. It's a loaded 1990 240sx hatchback with a 5-speed. it has a messed up motor and 176000 miles and some fixable dents. all for $100 I think it shall make a very nice/cheap race car. my cousin and me are going to fix it if we buy it.