evo vs. supra

can an stock evo take on a stock supra non turbo?
how about twin turbo supra?
i kinda know the answer to this but just makin sure....

its all in the driver. i think the Supra Non-Turbo can't take the Evo. BUT the Supra Twin-Turbo can kill the Evo 8. On the Launch, the Evo, but prolly 2nd gear the Supra will pass by the Evo 8. Supras are strong, especially the Twin-Turbo Supras. Supras can take the Evo 8, in MY opinion

stock in a staight line, the tt supra will most likely beat the evo, but not by much.

in a track race, the evo will most likely kick the supras ass, if you consider that both drivers are equal.

i dont really know the specs for the supra but i think the evo can take the supra. in depends on the driver (like always). the evo Vl 0-60 is around 4.4 sec and 1/4 mile is 13 sec. the evo Vlll is 0-60 is 4.8 but the slowest time is seen is 5.3 so far. i dont think the evo can take a tt supra though. anyone knows the specs for the supra?

the evo's 0-60 in 4.8 is virtually impossible in the us spec model, and incredibly rare in the jspec model.
I'm pretty sure that's realistic in the (mr?) edition.
the evo goes the quarter mile in real life avg of 13.4 or 13.5.

from all the numbers ive seen, the supra got anwhere from 4.9-5.3 to 60, and 13.2-13.6 for 1/4 mile.

Specifications
Year 1993 Origin Not Available
Make Toyota Base Price $38 000 usd
Model Supra Turbo Production Not Available
Engine & Transmission Body / Chassis
Position Not Available Drive Wheels Front Engine / RWD
Configuration Twin Turbo Inline-6 Curb Weight 1565 kg / 3450 lbs
Valvetrain DOHC 4 Valves / Cyl Length 4514 mm / 177.7 in
Displacement 2997 cc / 182.9 cu in Width 1811 mm / 71.3 in
Power 238.6 kw / 320.0 bhp @ 5800 rpm Height 1275 mm / 50.2 in
Torque 427.1 nm / 315.0 ft lbs @ 4000 rpm Wheelbase 2550 mm / 100.4 in
Bore 86.1 mm / 3.39 in Front Track 1521 mm / 59.9 in
Stroke 86.1 mm / 3.39 in Rear Track 1527 mm / 60.1 in
Redline 6800 rpm Steering Rack & Pinion w/Power Assist
HP / Liter 106.77 bhp per litre Body / Frame Unit Steel
HP / Curb Weight Front Brakes Vented Discs w/Vacuum Assist & ABS
Gear Type 6-Speed Manual Front Brake Size 323 mm / 12.7 in
1st Gear Ratio 3.83:1 Rear Brakes Vented Discs w/Vacuum Assist & ABS
2nd Gear Ratio 2.36:1 Rear Brake Size 325 mm / 12.8 in
3rd Gear Ratio 1.69:1 Front Wheels F 43.2 x 20.3 cm / 17.0 x 8.0 in
4th Gear Ratio 1.31:1 Rear Wheels R 43.2 x 24.1 cm / 17.0 x 9.5 in
5th Gear Ratio 1.00:1 Front Tires 235/45ZR-17
6th Gear Ratio 0.79:1 Rear Tires 255/50ZR-17
7th Gear Ratio Not Available Front Suspension Not Available
Final Drive Ratio 3.27:1 Rear Suspension Not Available
Performance
Top Speed 249.4 kph / 155.0 mph 0 - 60 mph 5.0 seconds
0 - ¼ mile 13.5 seconds 0 - 100 mph 11.8 seconds
Lateral Acceleration 0.98g EPA City/Hwy 18 / 23 mpg

this is the time i see pretty much everywere i look 13.5. people have said it runs everywere to 12.9 stock to 13.8. but in most tests and in most sites and most mags the supra ran 13.5. as far as the evo-8 in most mags it runs 13.4 to 13.1. so the hell with the supra, i'm going evo-8 on this in either track or straight line 1/4mile.
you can argue all you want, but i'm sticking with evo-8

you guys have to check this race:
http://www.digitalbrain.com/yeye/evo_vs_Supra.mpg
u see how the EVO VI burned the TwinTurbo Supra. :)

In the 1/4 mile it would be a drivers race, probably pretty close, but I would say that the Supra has much more potential for the 1/4 mile than the Evo. If I were building a drag racer, of the two, I would take the Supra. The track would be a different story. On the track it is always a drivers race so, all things being equal, the Evo would kill the Supra on the track. If I were building a track car I would take the Evo hands down.

It all depends on what kind of racing you want to do. You can't have a car that will be great at both the 1/4 and the track.

It all depends on what kind of racing you want to do. You can't have a car that will be great at both the 1/4 and the track.

i second that.

well as polygon said...if you want to go all out drag racing the supra should be a better choice


however for road racing the evo is nothing short of astounding

so IMO it really comes down to your priorities

the Evo has better acceleration, and the Supra is faster in wild tracks. these days no one care about the top speeds in long tracks, people compare the cars by its acceleration in 1-100m and 0-400m in seconds.

the Evo has better acceleration, and the Supra is faster in wild tracks.
umm... what's a wild track?

one thats not tame?

Hmm, this is a good one. I would have to go with the Evo myself. 4 doors, 271 hp, and AWD make for a mighty tempting offer. After I get an S2000, the EVO will most definitely be the car after. I just have so much respect for the engineering in it. Don't get me wrong though, the Supra is a great vehicle, and has a large following to boot. Hell, you can find plenty of aftermarket stuff EASY for a supra as well.

you know though i feel the evo-8 is faster i would rather have a supratt cause i would modify, and dollar for dollar i believe the supra has more potential, hell i've heard of soo many 800hp supra and even lots more than that.

im not sure of this, but from the supras design, and rwd, i feel that its a better track car than the evo. i think that the evos just tuned better from the factory. for 1/4 mile, i think the supra is faster with slicks, but for street with street tires, i think the evo has the advantage. for overall tuning, i feel that the supras the better car, but the evo comes from the factory better balanced.

in real track and equal drivers evo beats supra in 0-400m
and also R34 skyline. In car&drv i read that an evo 6 is faster 0.1 sec in 0-100kmh and at 1000m is faster than r34 vspec a whole second

make your estimations with supra. Also compare the weight of each car and thats a thing that always slips our minds.

As has been mentioned earlier, it depends on exactly what you're going to do with the car. If you aren't going to modify it at all, the EVO is probably the better pick. If you're modding for power, the Supra has bigger gains for less money than the EVO. On a road course, the two biggest problems the Supra has are brakes and weight. In this case, it will take more money and more mods to make the Supra TT faster than an EVO on a road course.