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Gen 6 500hp Z06 vs SRT-10


VenomInMyVeins
12-29-2003, 12:47 AM
So what're all of your opinions on the z06 trying to compete with the viper? I hear the new z is supposed to have similar engine stats as the viper with less weight, and 10-20k cheaper than the srt-10. Beating the viper is chevy's ultimate goal according to some sources.

v10_viper
12-29-2003, 05:34 PM
So what're all of your opinions on the z06 trying to compete with the viper? I hear the new z is supposed to have similar engine stats as the viper with less weight, and 10-20k cheaper than the srt-10. Beating the viper is chevy's ultimate goal according to some sources.

I'm sure the Z06 would take the SRT-10 but that's a convertible which is generally heavier than coupes. I heard the the Z06 is aimed more towards the Ford GT but isn't all this obvious?? IF the Ford GT was aimed at the Ferrari 360 then it wouldn't have that much more power and that much more weight, it's power and weight are almost identical to the Viper. And the C6 I'll believe is aimed toward the GT right now because it is faster than the Vipers but I've got my money on the Viper for a road course. And never will I believe that the Ford GT does 0-60 in 3.3, the Murcielago has a higher power-weight ratio AND all wheel drive and it isn't quite that fast, plus it's rear tires aren't as big and wide. Until the Coupe form of the new Vipers comes out, which wont be for a few more years, I wouldn't be comparing any of these cars, a convertible to two coupes isn't fair, although it will hang right with them. If you look at the 95-96 change in the Viper, the coupe was 200 lbs lighter and had more power, if that follows with the new Viper, it'll be right around 3100 with say 515 horse. I haven't been keeping up with the new CC's, aren't they already racing in Japan or something?? But i'm betting that they'll start dominating once again in LeMans, over the C6, GT, Porsche and Ferrari, but until then we'll all have to wait.... :mad:

VenomInMyVeins
12-30-2003, 06:14 PM
I agree that the numbers on the GT are a little suspicious. Plus isn't the block the 5.7 FE svt cobra block just with a higher pressure supercharger? The CC is supposed to have a lot less weight than the srt-10, but it's also a barebones version with a fuel cell instead of a tank, and all kinds of racing amenities. It's also got a fairly large price tag in comparison w/ the srt-10. I'll bet that dodge will want a mid version too, like the gts was to the gtsr... the cc is like a downgraded version of the gtsr. So hopefully dodge can retaliate. But also I believe for 10-20k less than a srt-10 the z06 will come stock with a lacking brake system, a shotty suspension, and other details that dodge caught with the viper. We all know that dodge has to have something in the works if there's numbers being put out by chevy that will take their car out to brunch.

v10_viper
12-30-2003, 11:20 PM
I agree that the numbers on the GT are a little suspicious. Plus isn't the block the 5.7 FE svt cobra block just with a higher pressure supercharger?

I believe that the GT engine is a 5.4 from the Lincoln Navigator slapped with the supercharger. I may be wrong though...

Viperdude7
01-09-2004, 07:38 AM
I don't think the ZO6 has 500. I think that it's slightly lower still. Even if it did though, the viper is just pinching the surface of what it can do with it
's V-10. The GT-40 is a much more powerful car than I think everyone here gives it credet for. It's true that its engine is based on the Mustang Cobra, but that's where the similarities end. I wonder what it really makes, because I think that they are underwriting its horsepower rating.

VenomInMyVeins
01-12-2004, 11:10 AM
I think it's a shame they didn't wait until ford came out with their aluminum block, and use that on the gt... that would've reduced quite a fair amount of weight..

DiabloGT
01-24-2004, 12:50 PM
but that will be a big avantage on the z06 vs viper, because already the regular c6 is 0-60 in 3.9 like the viper, so add about 60-100hp on the z06, and that will be a challange, but still the viper is a convertable...

v10_viper
01-24-2004, 04:22 PM
but that will be a big avantage on the z06 vs viper, because already the regular c6 is 0-60 in 3.9 like the viper, so add about 60-100hp on the z06, and that will be a challange, but still the viper is a convertable...

Actually the C6 is about the same acceleration as the old Z06, 0-60 mid 4 second...Hopefully the Z06 can hit around 450-475 and it'll be a damn good competitor for the Viper, GT, and Ferrari and Porsche. But with the convertible SRT-10 as fast as it is, I can't wait to see how fast the coupe will be, and how much better the handling will be.

VenomInMyVeins
01-24-2004, 10:21 PM
yeah.. I think it's going to be great to see the competition between the srt-10 and z06. I think the viper has more potential as a competing car though.. even though it's a convertible. But I also believe the viper has a lot more things going for it.. including the looks (IMO) the "head turning value" and the fact that it's an exotic.

Psman32@af
01-27-2004, 11:18 AM
ya i think the Viper is abetter car, nad has more potential. does anyone else think that the new z06 looks like a viper rip-off, kind of liek a mix between a viper and a 360 modena?

vettemaan
02-04-2004, 04:44 PM
Just so you all know, "Its a Leaker" dosent represent Corvette guys AT ALL.

vettemaan
02-04-2004, 04:47 PM
Actually the C6 is about the same acceleration as the old Z06, 0-60 mid 4 second...Hopefully the Z06 can hit around 450-475 and it'll be a damn good competitor for the Viper, GT, and Ferrari and Porsche. But with the convertible SRT-10 as fast as it is, I can't wait to see how fast the coupe will be, and how much better the handling will be.

Two Words Blue Devil :evillol:

And No, The Z06 will do 3.9 Seconds to 60 and 12.4 in the 1/4. The Base C5 was mid 4's and low 13's

v10_viper
02-04-2004, 09:20 PM
chevy has better things to do than to beat vipers its been done over and over .
but the viper guys don't accept defeat so the talk goes on and on.
Hmmmm...yea ok lets see some stats, any stats at all that prove the Corvette beating the Viper in anything, you wont find em...

And No, The Z06 will do 3.9 Seconds to 60 and 12.4 in the 1/4. The Base C5 was mid 4's and low 13's

Oh yea??? Prove to me where it says the Z06 does 0-60 in 3.9, it doesn't, fastest I've seen is 4.4, a half a second slower...Any car that pulls a 3.9 to 60 will run AT LEAST a 12 flat 1/4 mile unless it has brickwall aerodynamics, or the wrong gearing.

vettemaan
02-06-2004, 12:32 AM
I beg to differ, let me take a picture of it in MOTOR TREND

vettemaan
02-06-2004, 12:55 AM
Cant find my camera cord right now but Motor Trend, Febuary, 2002 read and weap.

v10_viper
02-06-2004, 10:37 AM
You can't prove it can you?? NO stock Z06 has done a sub 4 second 0-60, dont you get it?? If you can show the proof I'll believe it but until then there is none.

vettemaan
02-06-2004, 01:29 PM
*looks for camera cord*

:lol:

vettemaan
02-06-2004, 01:49 PM
Read- http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=16&article_id=3325&page_number=1

And I quote-

"A weird thing happened the first time we tested the newly fortified Z06 ("Supertuner Challenge," September 2001). The 405-hp 2002 Z06 was surprisingly less spry than the 385-hp 2001 Z06. We guessed that a slippery launch surface was to blame, so we acquired another example for more tests.
We were right. The updated Z06 obliterates the previous one. Zero to 60 mph your thing? The new car scampers there in four seconds flat, 0.3 second quicker than the quickest '01 Z06 we tested and only 0.1 behind the four-wheel-drive 911 Turbo.

In the quarter-mile there's an even bigger difference. The new car did it in 12.4 seconds at 116 mph, whereas the 385-hp car needed 12.7 seconds to hit 113 mph. For an only five-percent increase in power, the new Z06 certainly extracts quite a bit. For the record, both cars we're comparing here were tested by the same driver using the same test equipment. "

vettemaan
02-06-2004, 01:51 PM
v10 viper- did you know that car and driver, motor trend, road and track, and automobile dont even power shift these cars while testing?

v10_viper
02-15-2004, 05:48 PM
v10 viper- did you know that car and driver, motor trend, road and track, and automobile dont even power shift these cars while testing?

And did you know that ever since then no Z06 has ever hit under 4.2 seconds 0-60, even with a proffessional race car driver behind the wheel?? Oh, btw, didn't you say, UNDER 4 seconds, yeah, it wasn't under 4 there buddie. Who cares if Chevy claims 3.9, it has not, I'll repeat just in case you didnt see it the first time, it has not been proved. But I'll let you have your 0-60, the Z06 ran the quarter in 12.4 right?? well that year GTS's were runnin 11.8's, over half a second faster, and guess what happens when the new coupes lose weight and gain power...

vettemaan
02-15-2004, 08:31 PM
I never said the Z06 beats the SRT-10.

Blue Devil
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:) lol

Kurtdg19
02-18-2004, 01:11 PM
And did you know that ever since then no Z06 has ever hit under 4.2 seconds 0-60, even with a proffessional race car driver behind the wheel?? Oh, btw, didn't you say, UNDER 4 seconds, yeah, it wasn't under 4 there buddie. Who cares if Chevy claims 3.9, it has not, I'll repeat just in case you didnt see it the first time, it has not been proved. But I'll let you have your 0-60, the Z06 ran the quarter in 12.4 right?? well that year GTS's were runnin 11.8's, over half a second faster, and guess what happens when the new coupes lose weight and gain power...

How do you know that no Z06 since then has ever hit under 4.2 seconds? I hope you realize that there are a lot of things involved that can affect your 0-60 and quarter times. Even if you are a good driver, when your higher in altitude your not going to be running as fast times. If its cold and the pavement is cold, your not going to hook up at well off the line hurting your 0-60. If its to hot it can also effect your time. You only need to know how to launch your car period.

Educate yourself: http://www.geocities.com/z06_racer/

The only mod: He took off his airbox lid, whooptie. And who knows if it was even before hand. Still STOCK.

Also, so what would you think a 11.990 1/4s 0-60 is?

Viper 10
02-20-2004, 12:01 AM
There is no such thing as a C6 Z06. It won't be out until next year. By the way, don't be so impressed with the C6 numbers, because a C5 Z06 will still beat the new C6 in almost every category.

DiabloGT
02-20-2004, 11:11 AM
And did you know that ever since then no Z06 has ever hit under 4.2 seconds 0-60, even with a proffessional race car driver behind the wheel?? Oh, btw, didn't you say, UNDER 4 seconds, yeah, it wasn't under 4 there buddie. Who cares if Chevy claims 3.9, it has not, I'll repeat just in case you didnt see it the first time, it has not been proved. But I'll let you have your 0-60, the Z06 ran the quarter in 12.4 right?? well that year GTS's were runnin 11.8's, over half a second faster, and guess what happens when the new coupes lose weight and gain power...
here is that coupe:
http://www.dupontregistry.com/search/srDetails.asp?itemid=141496&sessionkey={2B067668-D990-4E5F-A6CF-32645A990EE0}
and what happened to your signature?
p.s. i was watching tv and that retarded justin timberlake has a new viper srt-10!

v10_viper
02-20-2004, 07:39 PM
p.s. i was watching tv and that retarded justin timberlake has a new viper srt-10!

haha, i'm suprised the pussy can drive a manual, or maybe it's just for his edition of cribs so he can say he has one...


The only mod: He took off his airbox lid, whooptie. And who knows if it was even before hand. Still STOCK.

Also, so what would you think a 11.990 1/4s 0-60 is?

Well, I dont think it said but i kind of doubt that he was running the stock tires, or pressure, that also affects 1/4 mile times ya know, although I am not saying it's no possible to run an 11.99. You dont think that a professional knows how to launch a car, I'm sure he knows what he's doing and he did a good job with the Z06. Thanks for that website though, what a beautiful picture he has on the homepage. Btw, the Vipers that ran the 11.8's did it without their spare tire so i heard, so there is 40 lbs lighter. oh, and I'd expect an 11.99 1/4 mile to be around a 4.1 0-60. Plus, that 11.99 looking at the runs he prob had a flat 4 0-60 because his trap speed wasn't all that much higher.

v10_viper
02-20-2004, 08:00 PM
Two Words Blue Devil :evillol:

And No, The Z06 will do 3.9 Seconds to 60 and 12.4 in the 1/4. The Base C5 was mid 4's and low 13's

Oh yeah?? Well ya know what I say to that?? Hennessy SRT-10...maybe the 650R, or the 800TT...look at those...can't wait until the first SRT-10 gets 1000 hp.

Kurtdg19
02-21-2004, 05:44 PM
A 118mph trap speed is a good trap speed for a Z06. I can see it going 0-60 in under 4 (not by a whole lot, but still under). A 115mph trap would be pretty average if you want to hit the midish 12s. 3mph has gotta account for quite a few feet of acceleration at that speed.

I also do believe that professional drivers know how to launch a car. Give them some time to become fully familiar with the car, and they will be able to extract the maximum potential out of it. Calling in a pro to do a few runs on the car isn't enough time even for them to get the full potential out of the car. Practice makes perfect :smile: .

BTW, isn't that car nice!

I do respect the Vipers immensly, I wouldn't say for a second that a Z06 could outrun a SRT-10 consistently (thats just crazy, maybe a fluke 1 out of 10). I just wanted to point out the possibility of a Z06 running good times when driven fully. I'm sure a very good and familiar Viper driver could throw down some wild quarter runs say close to mid 11s.

An automags numbers are mostly journalist getting a small time frame to test a car...not what I would call absolute gospel. The real magic happens outside the mag.

Now when the new C6 Z06 comes out, who knows then, right?

vettemaan
02-25-2004, 11:18 PM
Oh yeah?? Well ya know what I say to that?? Hennessy SRT-10...maybe the 650R, or the 800TT...look at those...can't wait until the first SRT-10 gets 1000 hp.
One Problem- Those are tuners :nono:

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