for x-mas my bro wants a new muffler for his car. He said he doesnt care about gains, he just wants everyone to be able to hear his civic. So not caring about nething but noise, which muffler is louder, the apexi n1 or the 5zigen fireball?

Why are you asking an exhaust question in the Exterior Forum?

To answer your question though...the apexi will be louder...but why do you want to be loud? all it does is attract cops

First, talk some sense into your brother for God's sake :disappoin

But if he still feels that he absolutely MUST have the loudest civic on the block, between those two options I only remember hearing a 5zigen, LOUD. I was told it had 3 in piping and the tip looked to be at least 3.5. I heard that damn thing for two blocks! It was annoying as all hell! Like having a lawn mower strapped to my head. :banghead:

I've got an n1. That thing is loud as shit. I like it though. That is until I got a fu**ing ticket from some faggot ass rookie fuckin no turn signal usin durin 5 lane changin punk bitch of a cop. Fuckin faggot. I put the silencer in now, and the sound isn't too much quieter. I like it this way very much too. It sounds different, and I'd swear the car feels like it has more tourqe. It could be my imagination, but it sure feels that way to me. Not to steal your thunder, but has anyone heard that before? More hp or tqe with the silencer in? I should just go stock again, and put one of those dump valves in. Thanks

Nobu

That is until I got a fu**ing ticket from some faggot ass rookie fuckin no turn signal usin durin 5 lane changin punk bitch of a cop. Fuckin faggot.

Are you saying that you just moved one lane in a 5 wide or you moved a full 5 lanes with no turn signal in front of a cop? Scenario one is arguable at best for not deserving a ticket. Scenario two means you need some selse slapped into you. :slap: :chair:

A muffler really won't make the car that much louder, it will just be like the stock pipe has a hole in it or something. I put a Thermal muffler on my '94 Talon and was unhappy with it. A full exhaust on the other hand will be nice and loud with a good sound. My vote goes for the Apexi N1, which is what I have. Sometimes I wish it wasn't so loud, but it sounds so damn good :cool:

your brother should not get a muffler then. I don't wanta hear his bone stock beater ass whip going BWAAAAAAAAAAAA BHWWWWWWWWWa at 2 in the morning. kthx