What car will drive the most miles and last the longest?


Minot
12-16-2003, 11:09 PM
I got into a discussion at work today on what car would last the longest and drive the most miles. It will probably be my next purchase when my current car enters auto-heaven. My officemates and I concluded that we didn't know enough about automobiles to make an education decision. So I thought I would present it here.

I like to buy a car and stick with it. My current car is a 1996 Chrysler Cirrus LX with the Mitsubishi 2.5L V6. At 101,300+ miles I can hardly complain. She's been a champ. But I pamper my car. I never drive her over 80, I keep my RPMs below 3000, I use Mobil-1 Synthetic oil and ensure regular maintenance is always accomplished. What I want for my next car is one that will simply drive forever under the relatively mild trials I put my automobiles through.

I always assumed I would get a Honda Accord V6 next. My wife has a 2002 Civic EX and loves it. Nonetheless, I'm not sure. Price isn't too much of a factor. I'd be willing to pay up to $28,000 for an immortal champ. I'm considering primarily the Honda Accord (6 and 4 cyl), Toyota Camry (6 and 4 cyl) and the BMW 325i. After my success with the Cirrus' Mitsubishi engine, I'm also considering some of the rally cars such as the Mitsubishi Lancer, the Subaru Impreza WRX. Heck anything is open for that matter. I want to know what this knowledgeable car community recommends. I'd even be happy with another Civic if that's the longest lasting car for the money.

So I put it to you. What do you say? What car has the potential to survive the most miles and last the longest with good loving care for the most reasonable price?

-MINOT-

Jimster
12-16-2003, 11:16 PM
all cars will, these days, simple as that- especially when well maintained :)

Moppie@af
12-17-2003, 12:12 AM
Any cars thats well maintianed and used for the purpose it was designed for should last more than a reasonable amount of time.

Neutrino
12-17-2003, 12:33 AM
diesel engines as a general rule last longer than gasoline ones not to mention amazing gas mileage...

so you should look into a diesel sedan

Minot
12-17-2003, 09:53 PM
Wow, I'm actually surprised. I thought there would be some definite preference toward Japanese and European cars. From the sounds of it you all agree that anything will last if properly cared for. Then I guess the question is whether the larger engine run softely will provide any benefit, or whether I'd be wasting my money? Would I be better off with the V6 Accord or Camry than their 4 cyl versions?

-MINOT-

Moppie@af
12-18-2003, 02:38 AM
From my experiance the engines that have lasted the longest are the ones that are used the most.

i.e. a large V8 only ever driven at 50kph to the shops will not last as long as a small underpowered 4cyl doing the same run, and like wise for an under powered car being run frequently at high speed.
(Hondas however seem to be an exception, they love to rev, and the older engines especialy seem to last for ever run at high rpm, while if run at low rpm for long periods of time develop problems with the rings).

You should choose the car that best suits your needs.
If your going to be doing a lot of high speed and open road driving, i.e frequent trips away on weekends, or you have a long comute to work on the open road then a more powerful engine is a better choice, it will be less stressed, and will often get better milage as a result.
If your only ever going to be going short distances, or have a comute stuck in traffic at slow speeds then a smaller less powerful engine is all you need, and should wear better and use less gas.

Think of all cars as having a minimum and maximum performance envelope, and you need to find the one that fits your needs the best for it to perform the best, in all its aspects.

crayzayjay
12-19-2003, 05:30 AM
BMW and Honda probably make the best diesel engines in the world. Pick up a diesel 3-series or accord and you won't go wrong.

Jimster
12-19-2003, 05:34 AM
BMW and Honda probably make the best diesel engines in the world. Pick up a diesel 3-series or accord and you won't go wrong.
I"d probably say really, that if you are going to buy a car, then the engineers choice'd be a BMW or Honda, both makers are truly amazing

BMW still make the best diesels IMHO, I haven't sampled one of Hondas latest.

Moppie@af
12-19-2003, 05:40 AM
Ummm, Honda has alomst no experiance with Diesel engines, I think you might be refering to thier Two Strokes, which are regarded as the best in the world.

At the moment Honda is about to start useing Izuzu diesels in exchange for V6 petrol engine designs with GM.

.....infact I can't think of a single mass produced Honda model that came with a deisel engine.

crayzayjay
12-19-2003, 05:59 AM
Nope. Referring to Honda's newly introduced diesels, which are getting some incredible reviews

Moppie@af
12-22-2003, 03:55 AM
Nope. Referring to Honda's newly introduced diesels, which are getting some incredible reviews

And I think you'll find that if you dig a little bit past the P.R. B.S. you will find that they we're built with a lot of input from Izuzu ;)

crayzayjay
12-22-2003, 04:26 AM
I'll have to check on that :)

Neutrino
12-22-2003, 04:37 AM
what about mercedes diesels...i don't think those would be pushovers either

also here in the US the best diesels by far ar the cummins

crayzayjay
12-22-2003, 04:43 AM
BM's diesels are better than Merc's

stealthj
12-24-2003, 07:21 PM
yeah mercedes diesels keep going and going also
but for longest lasting??

hmm...id say toyota camry or honda accord

or just hondas and toyotas in general

chinasherry
08-27-2010, 07:55 PM
HONDA HONDA & HONDA . Theyare the best built cars period. stay away from Mitsubishi :nono: they are the worst Japanesse cars Subarus are also good but none of them match the Honda for realiabilty. In fact Hondas were so well engineered that in the mid 70s the Civic didnt even need a catalytic convertor to comply with the new air standards. Have no opinion on hybrids though but their sister cars the Acura are also very well made. Toyota got too big for their britches and skimped on quality control so Honda & Acura are now king. For perfomrance consider the Mazda RX8 if it is still made. The rotary engine is unique in that you dont have to use Premium fuel for better performance because there are no pistons but the older ones did suffer seal problems

nikole95
01-19-2011, 06:12 AM
Nope. Referring to Honda's newly introduced diesels, which are getting some incredible reviews
And I think you'll find that if you dig a little bit past the P.R. B.S. you will find that they we're built with a lot of input from Izuzu

Rollonby
02-01-2013, 04:40 PM
If long life and high mileage is your only factor, then Rolls Royce - more than 50% of pre-BMW Rolls are still in running order. However this is partly because the people who run them have the cash to carry out perfect maintenance, and the company offers a comprehensive restoration service. Of mainstream cars, VAG (VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat) are zinc plated so do not rot, so a VAG diesel is a good bet. I think the same is true of Volvo.

Rollonby
02-03-2013, 01:46 PM
Reliability and longevity are related but not identical concepts. Scrapping usually occurs either because the body has rusted to an extent where it cannot meet safety standards or is a visual embarrassment,or because the cylinders/pistons are worn out, and the repairs are more expensive than the residual value of the car. Some cars are prone to electrical faults from new, so would be classed as unreliable, but these rarely lead to the car being scrapped.

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