Who do you think will win a prelude vtech 95 or a newer accord v6

If they're both stock, the Accord would eat the Prelude.

I bet neither of them go very fast when the drivers get their liscences pulled for street racing. J/K







I'll go with the Prelude.

The new v6 six speed will murder the prelude. It runs mid 14s while the prelude top model runs lowish midish 15s.

Sorry man but your lude is lunch to 240hp and 200-some torque.

repeat typing after me...

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no "h" needed.

repeat as many times as needed for affects to set in.

btw, the lude is toast if ur talking about the new 6 sp. ones...

I feel pretty confident that you would know what the back of my car looks like better than the front :naughty:

what I bet on? pro wrestling only sport I trust to bet on.... and cock fights.
yea lude go bye bye v6 for teh win

stock race the lude is gonna get destroyed no question whatsoever.

REPETITION:
VTECH incorrect (unless your talking about a vtech phone with wheels)
VTEC variable valve timing and electronic lift control

I thought it was i-vtec that had the varaible valve timing, which it added to fight toyota's vvt-i...plain vtec was just the staged cam lift i THINK....i-vtec is much newer...nothing pre-2000 or so had it-all vtec then was plain...MAYBE im wrong...someone correct me if i am

I-Vtec changes cam timing or something like that, it has something to do with the intake cam's cam-gear. VTEC has the variable vale timing too, that's why it's called VTEC :)

I-Vtec changes cam timing or something like that, it has something to do with the intake cam's cam-gear. VTEC has the variable vale timing too, that's why it's called VTEC :)

No VTEC (i-VTEC, E-VTEC, etc...) compares to the original 3-stage VTEC of Integras and 6th gen Civic Si's and you could say VTEC Del Sol's as well.

thats not true nissan makes a vvl neo engine in japan that puts out 197 hp out of a 2.0
three stage cam also
there is a new sliding camshaft design that uses five different lobes for the lamborghini or is it ferrari?
either way five stage cam?
craziness

thats not true nissan makes a vvl neo engine in japan that puts out 197 hp out of a 2.0
three stage cam also
there is a new sliding camshaft design that uses five different lobes for the lamborghini or is it ferrari?
either way five stage cam?
craziness

Wowzers! Good points there. But in my post I was refering to VTEC which only refers to Honda as they are the ones that own the rights to the VTEC system. I was just speaking for Hondas specifically. ;)

thats not true nissan makes a vvl neo engine in japan that puts out 197 hp out of a 2.0
three stage cam also
there is a new sliding camshaft design that uses five different lobes for the lamborghini or is it ferrari?
either way five stage cam?
craziness
The 197HP motor was a 1.6, not a 2.0 (SR16VE-N1).

The SR20VE made between 187HP and 204HP, depending on what year and what car model it was in.

NEO-VVL and VTEC are similar, but not the same.

NEO-VVL can actuate the intake and exhaust cams independently, with two solenoids while VTEC (DOHC only, of course) actuates both cams at the same time with one VTEC solenoid.

NEO-VVL is a true three-stage system, while this is only true with Honda's JDM/EuDM D15B, and the F20C (S2000).

Lastly, i-VTEC is far superior to VTEC, as aside from valve variations, it also has the ability to adjust the car's intake-cam-timing on the fly, maximizing the engines output at every rpm range. Kinda-like an onboard mechanic that tunes your car as you drive;). i-VTEC is one of the primary reasons that K20 motors gain so mich from so little. I/H/E/Hondata K20A2 (Type-S) cars are running in the high-13's range.

Lastly, i-VTEC is far superior to VTEC, as aside from valve variations, it also has the ability to adjust the car's intake-cam-timing on the fly, maximizing the engines output at every rpm range. Kinda-like an onboard mechanic that tunes your car as you drive;). i-VTEC is one of the primary reasons that K20 motors gain so mich from so little. I/H/E/Hondata K20A2 (Type-S) cars are running in the high-13's range.

Hmm, well put and good to know. My understanding was always that even i-VTEC wasn't nearly as good as the VTEC of Integras (B18's) and B16 DOHC motors (or even DOHC F-series motors for that matter, and H's as well), as it's only on the intake side, rather than BOTH intake and exhaust sides like the original VTEC. Of course the original Honda VTEC system is quite an old and dated design compared to Nissan's Neo-VVL and Toyota's VVTi (or whatever the letters are to their VTEC similar system), so naturally they would be a little more refined and modernized. E-VTEC I know is a bit INferior to VTEC though.

Hmm, well put and good to know. My understanding was always that even i-VTEC wasn't nearly as good as the VTEC of Integras (B18's) and B16 DOHC motors (or even DOHC F-series motors for that matter, and H's as well), as it's only on the intake side, rather than BOTH intake and exhaust sides like the original VTEC. Of course the original Honda VTEC system is quite an old and dated design compared to Nissan's Neo-VVL and Toyota's VVTi (or whatever the letters are to their VTEC similar system), so naturally they would be a little more refined and modernized. E-VTEC I know is a bit INferior to VTEC though.

K20A2s (RSX-S, DC5 ITR, CTR [200-230HP]) have the VTEC effect on both intake and exhaust cam, while the VTC (the i in i-VTEC), happens on the intake-cam only.

K20A3s (base RSX, 2002+ Civic Si [160HP]) have both VTEC and VTC on the intake-side only.

K20A2s (RSX-S, DC5 ITR, CTR [200-230HP]) have the VTEC effect on both intake and exhaust cam, while the VTC (the i in i-VTEC), happens on the intake-cam only.

K20A3s (base RSX, 2002+ Civic Si [160HP]) have both VTEC and VTC on the intake-side only.

Ahh yes! Tis the Si's K20A3 motor that I was thinking of for the intake side only VTEC.

Makes you wonder though why they don't have the VTC on both sides. Anywho, thanks for clearing that up. :D

VTEC? Don't they make phones? JK I know what VTEC is...

VTEC? Don't they make phones? JK I know what VTEC is...
:sly:
vtech = phone, vtec = honda

VTEC? Don't they make phones? JK I know what VTEC is...

:greddy2:

VTEC? Don't they make phones? JK I know what VTEC is...

:sly:

:banhim:

:lol:

Valve Variable Timing Electric Lift Control (VTEC). Want to band me now? I can tell you more if you like...

Valve Variable Timing Electric Lift Control (VTEC). Want to band me now? I can tell you more if you like...

Think again.

Variable-valve Timing Electronic-lift Control

Not enough to "band" you over, so don't sweat it.

hahahaha...im thinkin he is :owned:

and his little shopping cart too!

"1984 Honda Civic S" Hah! loser...

"1984 Honda Civic S" Hah! loser...

ok, before this turns into a flame war, im going to warn u both (and before carnuttt does the same.) we DON'T simply make fun of someones car. it is not tolerated on here, and i understand u guys are newbies (somewut), but u need to read the guidelines more.

poking fun at one another is fine, but if ur going to make it personal, take it to pm's...don't highjack someone's thread to settle personal issues between one another.

btw...welcome to the boards guys, not tryin to be a dick...jus forewarning before u get into bad habits is all.

exactly...

"1984 Honda Civic S" Hah! loser...

exactly...

Exactly what? :nono: :rolleyes:

People have what they have for whatever reason. Don't knock it, because it could very well be the next car to SPANK you. UnDeRsTaNd? :lol:

The 197HP motor was a 1.6, not a 2.0 (SR16VE-N1).

The SR20VE made between 187HP and 204HP, depending on what year and what car model it was in.

NEO-VVL and VTEC are similar, but not the same.

NEO-VVL can actuate the intake and exhaust cams independently, with two solenoids while VTEC (DOHC only, of course) actuates both cams at the same time with one VTEC solenoid.

NEO-VVL is a true three-stage system, while this is only true with Honda's JDM/EuDM D15B, and the F20C (S2000).

Lastly, i-VTEC is far superior to VTEC, as aside from valve variations, it also has the ability to adjust the car's intake-cam-timing on the fly, maximizing the engines output at every rpm range. Kinda-like an onboard mechanic that tunes your car as you drive;). i-VTEC is one of the primary reasons that K20 motors gain so mich from so little. I/H/E/Hondata K20A2 (Type-S) cars are running in the high-13's range.

yeah your right i meant 187hp
the sr16ve n1 is a super rare engine
if i recall correctly when the n1 was released it made the most hp per liter out of any four stroke engine ever made,
course it couldn't compete with rotorys but i've never liked the engine concept for a rotory engine, good for 3-5 years tops before compression starts to go...