Ok everyone im a looking for a newer car to replace my '93 Camry. Like i said i have around 5 grand.

Looking For:

'95+ Galant
'95+ Integra
'94+ MR2
'95 Eclipse/Talon AWD Prefer
'96 SVX AWD
'96 Camry V6 (mine's a 4 banger)
240SX

List Others

Keep In Mind I am Trying For A 2 Year Increase At Least (1995+)

Hasnt this already been posted?

Search next time...

I'd go with a turbo AWD eclipse or talon, preferably a talon because they go for less money. Aftermarket for these cars is cheap and endless. You could buy a decent one for 4000 and throw another grand into and be able to crack high 12's or low 13's. dsmtuners.com is a good place to do a little research.

yeah Mumm, I started the "under $5,000" thread, but it's FAR from played out. Everyone here has been awesome, friendly, and helpful with some good suggestions, but there is much work and research yet to do to find the perfect budget undercover sports ride.

Since starting that thread, I have driven a 95 Integra-- nice, reasonably fast, some blind spots in back, but no car is perfect.

Drove a '96 Accord that had been modified heavily, and it was a high quality car, no doubt, but it sat you high, so the sensation of speed really wasn't there.

Also drove a '94 Saturn (must have been the base model, couldn't find an alphanumeric) -- it wasn't very fast but it was fun to drive. No blind spots. It seats you low to the ground, --lower than the '95 Integra or the '96 Honda-- which increases perceived sensation of speed, a very important quality!

Early 90's Preludes, Corollas, Legends, & Sentras also seem to all share this "low to the ground" driver seating benefit..

In fact, I think I'll start another thread about it.

A friend of mine mentioned that he knows someone with a Mitsu Eclipse and that the engine is in bad shape, but it's a nice car overall. I am trying to arrange a test drive.

Also waiting for my friend with the '94 Legend to get back in town so I can drive that. I'll post if it's anything to write home about.

Please keep me informed of your findings as well.

I hope this helps.

I'd pick a civic, talon, precidia (mx-3), prelude, or a goood ole merc topaz

rice^
Anyway,pick a 240sx,you can drag race,drift,and do anything you want in it,it's a universal car,but if you want it to perform better,get one around $2,500,then get a SR20DET and drop it in there,thats your best choice for around $5,000..

thanks!
anyone know what year they started making 240's that would take that engine? Was it from the very first year or not?

240SX's were first made in 89 and ended in 94 w/that bodystyle (S13) but continued in 95 w/a new bodystyle (S14)...and concluded in 97..technically...98's were just unsold 97's...so I am told

You have to get a SR20DET from japan. The only 240's sold in USA came with a KA24DE,it has torque,but thats not what you want for performance..If you want to,get one from a S13(make sure its a black-top),or a S14. The S15 is too expensive and only has a few more hp,not worth it. Get a S13(89-94) body,Hatchback...Then you can get a JDM S15 front end conversion,oh man! I know thats what i want... :iceslolan

it has torque,but thats not what you want for performance..


oh really....how interesting...could you tell us more about that?

oh really....how interesting...could you tell us more about that?

Yes, I implore you, elaborate. Inquiring minds want to know.

KA24DE,it has torque,but thats not what you want for performance..

:screwy:

:banghead:

:loser:


BTW...you DONT only have to get the SR20DET...you can go KA24DE-T, RB20DET, RB25DET, (if you have crazy money...RB26DETT), or even CA18DET

Ok everyone im a looking for a newer car to replace my '93 Camry. Like i said i have around 5 grand.

Looking For:

'95+ Galant
'95+ Integra
'94+ MR2
'95 Eclipse/Talon AWD Prefer
'96 SVX AWD
'96 Camry V6 (mine's a 4 banger)
240SX

List Others

Keep In Mind I am Trying For A 2 Year Increase At Least (1995+)

on the mr2, are you looking for the turbo version? cause if you are, they run for much higher than 5 grand, cause if you ever looked around, the 91-92 turbos go for around that much even if the value is suppose to be lower, and the 94+ ones are hard to find. if you look long enough, or hard enough, you might find one for a good price, but the majority is slighty overpriced in my opinion.

Nissanspdr & Nacho_Nissan,

<kung fu movie bow> your knowledge has been of great benefit to me in several of these threads-- thanks!

But... based on what you and others have said, isn't the KA24DE-T an iffy choice because of its extra weight? Even with a turbo, can it really be compared to the SR20DET while weighing 500 pounds more?

Second question: can you say some more about these engines?
RB20DET, RB25DET -- how the RBs differ from the SR's?

thanks.

I'm not the one who said the KA-T was good,it still sucks. The RB is a 6-cyl,and it weights more than a sr...Just get the SR20DET,it's lighter,higher RPM's,and a lot of aftermarket in the USA. The RB's aren't as easy to mod, and they weight too much. The only one worth it would be a RB26DETT,not many of those in over in the states,but I'd go for the SR. Dont even think about a KA n/a or turbo,the most you can get off those is like 500hp if im correct,maybe not even that much. Some SR's have been pushed up to 700hp+.

it has torque,but thats not what you want for performance


i belive three of us were wondering about this statement...care to elaborate?

I'm not the one who said the KA-T was good,it still sucks. The RB is a 6-cyl,and it weights more than a sr...Just get the SR20DET,it's lighter,higher RPM's,and a lot of aftermarket in the USA. The RB's aren't as easy to mod, and they weight too much. The only one worth it would be a RB26DETT,not many of those in over in the states,but I'd go for the SR. Dont even think about a KA n/a or turbo,the most you can get off those is like 500hp if im correct,maybe not even that much. Some SR's have been pushed up to 700hp+.

Where do you get your info man? :loser:

Anyways...the fastest 240SX in the states is KA24DE-T powered...it ran a high 10...it's now in Tampa owned by a guy named Evil Bill I believe. It puts down over 600hp w/a 150 shot available...IIRC.

I have two friends w/budget custom turbo kits...they both put down 240-260rwhp...total money invested in each kit....about 1,600 bux...very nice if you ask me. Oh that's only at 5.8 psi...so there's plenty more!

RB's are quite easy to mod and can hold more than 1000hp...ever hear of Top Secret Skyline? Well...you can do a search for it...

The RB20DET is a 2.0 Liter inline 6 turbo...creates 200HP...very nice motor.

RB25DET is a 2.5 liter inline 6 turbo...creates usually 250hp-280hp...very reliable motor...and creates oodles of power easily

RB26DETT is the big daddy...2.6 liter twin turbo...creates over 280hp...very strong motor...almost bulletproof...so nice...one Japan's best motors ever!

my question is where is TATII...with all the bad coments about the k24 he should have arrived with both guns blasing....

NissanSpdr,
thanks. what web sites can you recommend for me to further research all these motors? Your list was great!
I want to know more, and I have already fruitlessly Googled my life away for far too many hours-- please give hints or better yet, LINKS! : )

again, thanks. My plan is beginning to take shape. By the time I have the money, I will know what to do.
-WayOut

Well...

There's this page...it has the conversions at the bottom if you want to know how much HP the engines have...but they are slightly off...

http://www.geocities.com/danielmaelzer/nissan_engine_family.html

This is a really good reference for all engines that are Nissan

http://www.freshalloy.com/site/features/tech/engines/home.shtml

Here's another page...pretty much says the same thing...

http://sr20det.nismo.org/nissanengines.htm

thanks!

One big question in my mind is whether these 6-cylinder motors are a pain in the neck to swap in (and if not, which cars they go into easily!)

Even the simplest engine swap is going to be a big deal for me, so I've got to avoid plans that hinge on elaborate custom wizardry that I can neither pay for nor accomplish myself even with gobs of help from firends.

I guess I should look for a website specifically about engine swaps...

Where do you get your info man? :loser:

Anyways...the fastest 240SX in the states is KA24DE-T powered...it ran a high 10...it's now in Tampa owned by a guy named Evil Bill I believe. It puts down over 600hp w/a 150 shot available...IIRC.

I have two friends w/budget custom turbo kits...they both put down 240-260rwhp...total money invested in each kit....about 1,600 bux...very nice if you ask me. Oh that's only at 5.8 psi...so there's plenty more!

RB's are quite easy to mod and can hold more than 1000hp...ever hear of Top Secret Skyline? Well...you can do a search for it...

The RB20DET is a 2.0 Liter inline 6 turbo...creates 200HP...very nice motor.

RB25DET is a 2.5 liter inline 6 turbo...creates usually 250hp-280hp...very reliable motor...and creates oodles of power easily

RB26DETT is the big daddy...2.6 liter twin turbo...creates over 280hp...very strong motor...almost bulletproof...so nice...one Japan's best motors ever!
yah,i said i wasnt sure of the KA's top power,but gues what,I've seen a SR with way more than 600hp,and i bet they spent the same amount of money as that 600hp KA.. :rolleyes: And do you really think 1000hp is alot for an RB??? Where have you been? If im correct,HKS is the owner of a 1,600hp Skyline... :sunglasse And please,A RB25DET does not put 280hp..the HKS 4-door skyline has a RB25DET and it has trouble keeping up with the SR20DET,and you can't say its not well moded,cause HKS know their shit....and all RB's are in-line 6,i dont think you had to type that that many times..

thanks!

One big question in my mind is whether these 6-cylinder motors are a pain in the neck to swap in (and if not, which cars they go into easily!)

Even the simplest engine swap is going to be a big deal for me, so I've got to avoid plans that hinge on elaborate custom wizardry that I can neither pay for nor accomplish myself even with gobs of help from firends.

I guess I should look for a website specifically about engine swaps...
Hey man,Got to nissan-240sx section,and i think they have the KA to SR swap steps in there...

Guys, I didnt feel like reading the other posts but I already know what this is about I guess.
Whoever is looking for an engine to swap into the 240sx, there are many options and all of them depending on your budget and what you want to go for. Also, for a 240sx, you'd pretty much be original, since, if you like the JDM scene and like being original, to a certain extent, the 240sx is the car to go for, Saturns, blah, american garbage. Talon/Eclipse, my brother has Talon right now which he is trying to sell to get a 240sx. Talon is pretty quick, but as what all you guys should know, DSMs have pretty weak trannies, or clutches to be exact, but too many people drive DSMs and are played out, now I hate them, plus, you cannot get products from the big name companies that are over in Japan, i.e., Top Secret, Top Fuel, Trust, Avant Garde, Attain, Fujitsubo and others. As for 240sxs, many swaps you can do, such as
CA18DET-89,90 Silvia and 180sx engine, 1.8, turboed, 180 hp i believe...around800-1400 i think
SR20DET, includees, S13 red topand black top with 205 hp, S14 SR20DET, variable valve timing, bigger turbo, T28 ball bearing...217 hp. S15 SR20DET, bigger injectors, 480cc...247 hp. Sr20s go from 2600-5500 depending on trim.
Turbo the KA, depends on what set up. so however much money.
RB series-as some other mentioned b4 prices differ, the better the engine the higher the price. Mckinney motorsports has engine mounts for those engines into a 240sx.
LT1- Chevy Camaro engine, aroune 4500 total i think, a guy around my area has that and is pretty well known for having the only LT1 powered 240sx and his car runs 12s. ask for the link and ill give it to you.
Galant, hale no, its a galant. SVX, rare, but still a no. No aftermarket support. Yes i kno you can turbo your galant and what not.For you smart asses out there. Camry?!?!? What the hell, no, family econobox, barely any aftermarket support, not to mention people will laugh at you for trying to modify it, as well as the saturn. Integras, played out, everyone and their grandmother has one. Lots of aftermarket support, and they look good i think, with a JDM front bumper at least. MR2, is a definite yes, kinda rare, not to many have em, plus its MR, but insurance is out the ying yang. 240sx is best logical answer, no matter what trim. FR, no other sport compact is in its class with FR. Low insurance. Hope I helped.
Also, choosing an engine for swap depends on what you wan to use it for. RBs are mainly used for drag racing as they are heavier than the rest, plus, with the RB26DETT, you have to make it AWD which is allot of cutting and welding. But your a cool kid if you can spend the cash for it. SR20s, used for drifting, autoX, track and what not, good daily driver.
If you want to talk about legality, good luck, any engine that is swapped out that is not the same that came from the manufacturer is illegal. If you live in cali, good luck. If you can get it to pass emissions, then your good, for they will not look at your enigne to see if its ilegal or not.

www.nicoclub.com
Those are the forums that I post at. Very extensive knowledga and FAQs there. register there for more info. Im BB Turbo H C S15 there.

yah,i said i wasnt sure of the KA's top power,but gues what,I've seen a SR with way more than 600hp,and i bet they spent the same amount of money as that 600hp KA.. :rolleyes: And do you really think 1000hp is alot for an RB??? Where have you been? If im correct,HKS is the owner of a 1,600hp Skyline... :sunglasse And please,A RB25DET does not put 280hp..the HKS 4-door skyline has a RB25DET and it has trouble keeping up with the SR20DET,and you can't say its not well moded,cause HKS know their shit....and all RB's are in-line 6,i dont think you had to type that that many times..

As to your comment about SR's w/more than 600HP...where are there time slips and video's at the track? I havent seen any... :uhoh:

As to your comment about what I said about 1000hp...I said MORE THAN 1000HP...I know there's one out there w/1600hp...but I covered myself in my statment by saying MORE than (ie >....greater than symbol) so please... :loser:

The RB25DET...the R33 version...does indeed put down 280HP (at the flywheel)...problem is the RB26DETT puts more than the Japanese "280HP"...anyways...have you heard of AWD loss? It's pretty large...and can maybe explain why it loses some HP to the wheels... :banghead:

Finally...as to the typing of inline 6 for the RB engines...I am trying to be clear...so please...back off! :nono:

yes, clarity is good, especially for beginners like me to understand stuff!
SR20Drifter, I really appreciate your input. I will check out nicoclub. thanx! But what does FR mean? you said:
"240sx is best logical answer, no matter what trim. FR, no other sport compact is in its class with FR."
is this another acronym for RWD?
As far as 240sx being the only option, I'd like to keep my options open for early Preludes and Corollas, Integras, Civics, Sentras, etc., so I'm also VERY interested in what engines drop into those without too much fuss. As long as its easily modded, I'm happy. I would actually prefer something people don't look twice at. Lots of theft and bored cops where i live. And, after driving a 65 chevy for years, I'm SICK of attention. give me 'undercover' from now on! : )
One of the most useful bits of info here is the idea that the RBs are somehow annoying as daily drivers. Anyone care to dispute that? I am definitely looking for a car to drive everywhere, cannot afford a weekend dragster.
-d

I have never heard of RB's being annoying...I mean I know they are powerful...but if you are coming from a 65 Chevy...then you know how to handle power...and FR means Front engine Rear wheel drive

As to your comment about SR's w/more than 600HP...where are there time slips and video's at the track? I havent seen any... :uhoh:
Look homie,i see your just based on facts about SR20's in the states..Maybe you should try getting info from the SR20's in Japan...Not alot of people fix 240's over here,most stay KA,and the smart boys know whats best,to get a SR...I dont think Nissan made this truck engine so people can fix them for racing. The SR on the other hand,is a high reving engine and it's a very strong block. like the sr20drifter said, the only 2 choices are CA and SR...

Look homie,i see your just based on facts about SR20's in the states..Maybe you should try getting info from the SR20's in Japan...Not alot of people fix 240's over here,most stay KA,and the smart boys know whats best,to get a SR...I dont think Nissan made this truck engine so people can fix them for racing. The SR on the other hand,is a high reving engine and it's a very strong block. like the sr20drifter said, the only 2 choices are CA and SR...

Who cares what they do in Japan...WE DONT LIVE IN JAPAN!!! Most of the mechanics that work on the SR in the states are...low and behold...AMERICANS! So...if these Am. SR mechanics can duplicate the #'s you say they have in Japan (which I am fully aware of...ie Signal Auto House S15 Silvia...) then great...but as of now...we dont have anything in the SR range that is better than the best KA-T in the states...

So...please...keep it real...and dont say...we'll...over there...blah blah blah...we live HERE!!!

:twak:

I see you have have a problem with nacho_nissan for some reason,but You keep it real over here, I'll keep it real with something called IMPORTS...
laterz

I have problem w/ppl who speak in 3rd person about themselves... :eek7:

I am all down for imports...but you cannot import the know how or the mechanics who do the wonders from over there...to here (the US).