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Celica GT-Four Coupe 4WD/AWD 6th Gen.??


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DemoX
12-02-2003, 02:40 PM
Hi..

Is there such a car in the world?
does any of you have pics of the Coupe?
Can 4WD/AWD be purschased and installed as aftermarket parts?

Cheers
Bo Sørensen

BLU CIVIC
12-02-2003, 02:46 PM
when u say such a car......do u mean is there a 6th gen GT-FOUR?

illGT4
12-02-2003, 02:47 PM
Yes, but as a hatchback.

There is no "coupe". I suppose it depends on wording. ??

You can modify anything with enough money. $$

It's not easy, nor have I seen, a 6th GEN Celica, converted to AWD.. Such things as the gas tank location, etc.. don't match the floor pan.

It's much better to purchase the real GT-Four if you can. Here in the U.S. we only have ST165 and ST185. I'd love to have the chance to buy a ST205. (6th gen)

Hope This Helps,
CHris
http://way.to/celica.gtfour

DemoX
12-02-2003, 03:49 PM
Hi ..

Yes i mean 1994-1999 Celica GT-Four (4WD/AWD/All Trac)
with the driver seat in the "normal side" :)
LHD... like in the U.S.A. for a price under $10k USDollars

Cheers
Bo Sørensen

illGT4
12-02-2003, 04:05 PM
Yes, some European countries are LHD.

So, yes there are LHD, ST205's (GT-Four) available.

It's my only hope of ever having a LHD model. :(

Search hard. Start by referncing which countries are LHD in Europe. Then, start looking. I've seen a handful of LHD ST205's over the years.

Let me know. I'll help if I can.

Best Regarsds,
CHris ST185 PA
http://way.to/celica.gtfour

DemoX
12-02-2003, 04:15 PM
what model/body kit is this (The Orange) http://www.toyotaklub.dk/portal/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=5&pos=37 ???

illGT4
12-02-2003, 04:27 PM
I do believe that is genuine Toyota. Or TRD.

I will ask my compadres. ;)

Here is a link to another picture:

http://www.speedtoys.com/~gemohler/gt4spoiler1.jpg

and also a link to a LHD ST205, in Italy.

Wolf's ST205 : http://digilander.libero.it/wolfango//celica.html

sinner0423
12-05-2003, 10:26 AM
I've never seen a GT-FOUR coupe before. The Coupes over in Japan / Europe were considered "Currens" and had different front headlights & such. Some people do the conversion on their 6th gen celicas.

illGT4
12-05-2003, 11:58 AM
yes, we know.. we are refering to the hatchback.
ST205.. not Curren

thanks for adding the info...

DemoX
12-06-2003, 06:51 AM
let me see if i have understand this.....

You guys says that you can't convert the 6th gen. Celica FWD into AWD or?

Is the ST205 cheaper or pricier then the nomal 6th gen Celica?

Cheers
Bo Sørensen

does any of you guys have links to webpages with tuning for the 6th gen. Celica and GT-4/Four?

if i get an ST205 can the engine be swap with a camry V6 3L?

illGT4
12-06-2003, 12:43 PM
ST205 = awd, turbo
ST204 = fwd, n/a

ST205 = more money

It is extremely difficult with the "floor plan" being so different. It would cost a lot of money to fab.

ie: where to stuff the driveshaft, rear diff, gas tank location...

anything is possible... but why? $$$$$

Find the real deal, you'll be MUCH happier. :)

In the last 6 years, I have not seen 1 AWD conversion... :(

illGT4
12-06-2003, 12:47 PM
It is not a bolt on project.

It would take a lot of custom work to fab.

DemoX
12-06-2003, 04:55 PM
okay....

it's difficult to find a GT-Four where i live... (in the whole country there is only 5.5 mio. people) so if i want one then i have to get it from germany or some of those countrys.

Cheers
Bo Sørensen

is it easy to drive a car that is AWD?

does any of you guys have links to webpages with tuning for the 6th gen. Celica and GT-4/Four?

illGT4
12-06-2003, 05:09 PM
It is very simple to drive an AWD vehicle.

I have tons of info and links. Some are on my webpage. http://way.to/celica.gtfour

Many of the same principles with tuning the 3rd gen 3S-GTE , as with the 1st and 2nd gen.

1st gen 3S-GTE came in ST165 Celica GT-Four (87-89)

2nd gen 3S-GTE came in ST185 Celica GT-Four (90-93)

3rd gen 3S-GTE came in ST205 Celica GT-Four (94-99)

I can help you with whatever you desire.

DemoX
12-07-2003, 10:17 AM
Hi ..

HOW MUCH work has to go into converting the coupe into a ST205?

is there a link where i can find pics of hybrid celica's? and/or fully custom celica's?

Cheers
Bo Sørensen

illGT4
12-07-2003, 01:00 PM
http://celica.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=000336;p=1

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=105342&perpage=50&pagenumber=1

Not too much talk of AWD conversions, but some 3S-GTE transplant info.

I imagine the amount of time and money it takes to make a ST20x into a ST205, would be more then what it would take to just purchase the ST205.

Wouldn't you want the REAL thing??

Not an imposter?:)

DemoX
12-08-2003, 10:42 AM
yes, of cause i would like to have the real deal..

but if i want a original 6th gen GT-Four it's gonna cost me 250k-330k DKr. (36k-48k USDollars)

and a standard 6th gen celica is only 100k-110k DKr. (15k-16k USDollars)

the reason being that the cars are so damn expensive, is that, that the government tribles the cost of the vehicles so young people can't get there hands on some of the nice cars... (not completely true but they does it to get more money....)
also it doesn't help that the GT-Four is REALLY rare in LHD specs, there are only three people in denmark (that i know of) that have a GT-Four...

It's kind of the same with you guys and Skylines...

The insurance companys are simply scared of young drivers with a car like that and then the cars is really, really expensive in insurance....

Well that's just life....

I can't wait to move from this country...

Cheers
Bo Sørensen

By the by.... What kind of engine swap can be done both with the standard and GT-Four? V6, Inline 6?

illGT4
12-08-2003, 02:32 PM
I understand what you mean now. ;( I'd still try though, as I've NEVER seen a complete conversion.

There's a lot more that the ST205 chassis has already. Supporting mods, headlight washers, etc...
I really wouldn't try a conversion. Too much hassle...

I cannot comment on an engine swap.. I wouldn't in a million years, put anything else in the GT-Four.

The 3S-GTE can be tuned to over 800BHP.

IMHO, there is no other engine. :)

BLU CIVIC
12-11-2003, 09:19 AM
if ur still lookin to get a 6th gen...i have a web site where itz $4327...itz in Japan though....but with shipping.....should be about $9k, which includes the price of the car, to bring it to the states

http://www.rizubi.com/gph/3829.jpg
http://www.rizubi.com/gph/3830.jpg
http://www.rizubi.com/gph/3831.jpg
http://www.rizubi.com/gph/3832.jpg

illGT4
12-11-2003, 03:14 PM
There are lots more where that came from... it's RHD. You can find ST205's all over like that! :D

Finding the LHD ST205 is the task at hand.

stingray69
11-07-2004, 03:08 AM
I have turned my st202 into a gt four full conversion took me about 2 1/2 months to complete and it is lhd

skaterblader23
11-07-2004, 03:02 PM
Lets just settle this now.....the st185 Alltrac is sexier and better than the st205 could ever hope to be :)

nialusa
11-07-2004, 07:05 PM
Lets just settle this now.....the st185 Alltrac is sexier and better than the st205 could ever hope to be :)
Dream on...... :smile:

skaterblader23
11-07-2004, 10:01 PM
see im not a big fan of the headlights on the st205....something about them just bug me (its nothing personal) i just think that the 185 is a beautiful car, especially with the st185 GT-4 hood and supra spoiler

ghetto7o2azn
11-07-2004, 11:57 PM
i have seen a complete conversion b4... a company had a US model and made it a complete 6th gen jdm gt4 other than it being lhd.... it was actually on ebay a couple months ago, i dont kno where u can find it or any other information on it... it didnt actually interest me that much other than they wanted over 18,000 for it

nialusa
11-08-2004, 03:37 AM
see im not a big fan of the headlights on the st205....something about them just bug me (its nothing personal) i just think that the 185 is a beautiful car, especially with the st185 GT-4 hood and supra spoiler

I have to agree the st185 GT4 is a beautiful thing (not too sure about the "supra spoiler" bit) it was a close run thing on which one to get st185/st205 but the extra power and the fact that the st205`s are newer, less miles etc won through.

91 Celica St
11-08-2004, 12:57 PM
ive seen an st-184 turned into an st-185... theres massive problems with them tho...like you may not (im not saying cannot just most likely never) ever be able to have the car aligned properly, as well as vibrations at high speeds

Yaggus
11-09-2004, 08:51 AM
I have to agree the st185 GT4 is a beautiful thing (not too sure about the "supra spoiler" bit) it was a close run thing on which one to get st185/st205 but the extra power and the fact that the st205`s are newer, less miles etc won through.

but how much more will a 6th gen GT4 cost over a 5th gen???

about $30,000 more in Australia.....

nialusa
11-09-2004, 10:03 AM
about $30,000 more in Australia.....

WHAT!!!!!!....that much difference, wow, thats alot. Theres only about £1000 difference here, you can pick up a Jap Import GT4 6th Gen for around £6000 all in. ($14,695 aus). 5th gen GT4`s go from £2500 - £5000 for a top condition one in show condition

SigmaProjects
11-09-2004, 06:47 PM
damn way too, 30K? You could just have someone go over there find one and import back for cheaper!

91 Celica St
11-10-2004, 11:11 AM
to be honest it would only be an extra 2k to inport a car over, but then there the charges to legalize it and get it smoged

Yaggus
11-11-2004, 01:20 AM
Yup... it blows...

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.private_vehicle?vehicle_id=148266&current_rec=13&total_rec=14&sort_type=&make_id=8&model_id=31&keyword=GT4&state_id=-1&search_distance=25

that is the only one ive seen for sale in Australia... $45,000 AUS

Due to the new import laws the government put through, it is impossible to import a 6th Gen to Australia unless its purely for racing.

the 5th Gen GT4's can go for as cheap at 9 grand AUS.

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