During the begining of the movie, the skyline R34 smoked into the crowd. wanna ask does anybody know how did they do or install to blow all those smokes, or fog out? :confused:

It was suppose to be a NOS purge. Very gay as the NOS system wasn't hooked up to the engine at all. Rice like that doesn't belong on a GTR

Seeming as it was a MKIV GTE Toyota engine anyways. Wasnt even a "REAL" Skyline, but hell, I'd take it. Ive seen Skylines powered by VQ's, VG's, L engines... anything that will fit in there. haha. Anyways, its some gay Co2 system they hooked up, but hell, it did look pretty sweet in the theatre. haha. peace

if "nitrous purging" is gay, why would the script make that guy do it in a crowd? so they would all laugh at him? what good does "nitrous purging" anyway? if he wants smoke, get a smoke grenade or fire extinguisher. its far cheaper than wasting nitrous imo

Yea I think its pretty stupid... BUt you have to look at it from THEIR view. They had a picture of a Skyine shooting some N2O about 20 foot in the air in Super Street, so 2fast2queer HAD to put it in their movie, haha. One thing I am getting, that I got from the movie is: The flame thrower kit... Now I know thats gay, but man, PERFECT tool for when someones riding you. Haha. Then he runs you down "I dont know what the big deal is man, your headlights look cool blacked-out!"

Flame thrower :) (http://autoloc.com/detail.lasso?itemid=flame2)

Seeming as it was a MKIV GTE Toyota engine anyways. Wasnt even a "REAL" Skyline, but hell, I'd take it. Ive seen Skylines powered by VQ's, VG's, L engines... anything that will fit in there. haha. Anyways, its some gay Co2 system they hooked up, but hell, it did look pretty sweet in the theatre. haha. peace

The R34 GTR in 2 Fast 2 Furious was orginally owned by Sean Morris of MotoRex. It was purchased by some clown and dressed up is all. As mentioned time and time again it was pretty standard, and NO it didn't have a MKIV GTE engine FFS. It still had the original RB26DETT in it.

Hey Razor, Maybe you know something I dont. But I believe that they made 6 versions of this Skyline (maybe im wrong??) but IM SURE that in this magazine article I saw, it had a Toyota MK IV GTE engine in it. The turbo was on the other side opposing RB engine, and it even had the Toyota emblem right there on the head. And I know for a fact that they made many versions in RWD for stunts and wreck cars, so these were the Toyota powered Skylines I believe. I've read in many articles about this, I'll quot Motortrend July 2003 Vol. 55, No. 7 issue. Page65 8th paragraph, first line. " The normally 4WD Skyline was set up as a rear-driver for stunt purposes, making it a compelling Japanese interpretation of a Musclecar." So maybe Motortrend is wrong... Oh well. So I guess I cant trust the facts in magazines either? Thats my 2 cents worth. peace

sorry bro. you're wrong.
it didn't have the supra motor in it.

Look, I tried to pull up my magazine with a picture of the engine bay, cant find it. BUT I promise you that in that engine bay, something wasnt right when I first saw it... Then holy shit I noticed that the turbo was on what would be the intake side of the RB motor... Then I thought to myself, "doesnt the 2JZ have the turbo on that side?" then I saw on the head, that Toyota emblem. NO SHIT. I will continue to find the picture, if you please Razor, do some research on the topic. have a good one, peace

the front driveshaft was removed to make it rwd.
you may have been looking at the wrong pic, if they did the article on the 4 cars, including the supra and the skyline.
not sure why they'd go and get the car, only to swap in a supra motor.

there's actually a skyline in japan (don't remember who the tuner was) that had a supra motor in a skyline, or maybe the other way around, a skyline motor in a supra...

but in this case, from everything that i saw, they were all rb powered...

was it in MT, or Car & Driver?
it might be on one of their sites...

Unless Leberman changed the engine in that car it would have the factory motor which would be the RB26. As I said it used to be owned by Sean Morris or by MotoRex can't remember truthfully now. The car was black and effectionately called "Black Bird".

fly the car you are or may be trying to think of is the Top Secret Supra. It has an RB26DETT with twin HKS 3037's in it producing over 800hp. That car was brought down here to New Zealand when Mr. Nagata came down. He also brought a blue R34 which was being setup for drags. That Supra how ever is NOT the same one that you have seen in video's in the past, it is another one in their stable that is more street than anything else.
He did just over 300km's on State Hwy 1 while down here.

I actually got to speak with Mr. Nagata on a side note thought an interpretuer. He speaks very little english so this was the best option. That has to be the most rememberable conversation I've ever had in my life! He is not very tall, but neither am I, but he's about 2 inches shorter than I am. Very soft spoken and reserved.

Well like I said, I may be wrong... BUT WHY THE HELL WOULD SEAN SELL BLACK BIRD?!!?!??!?! Most beautiful Skyline I have ever seen. From what I heard, they apperently had extra GTE engines just chilling in the shop (they were going to build more stunt and wreck supras, and never did) and they didnt buy enough RB's for the extra demanded load, so they did the logical thing. Motor swap. And yes it was Motortrend July 2003 Vol. 55, No. 7 issue. Page65 8th paragraph, first line. Pretty cool article. The front page shows the Yenko Camaro look-alike and the Skyline sitting there just burnin their tires. It's pretty neat. Anyways, I just wanna get my hands on a NuR for just one day, haha... Road and Track are too lucky (April 2002 they test drove it along with RX-7 A-Spec) Anyways, if you find anything, give me a shout. Peace

http://www.skylinegtr.com/SPOTLIGHT.html


here is the link that tells all about the movie and the blackbird. I wish they had not painted it.

why would sean sell it...
hmm...
have you looked at the car on www.rbmotoring.com?
it's far better/faster than the blackbird.

he doesn't sit on his ass and gloat about his achievements, he moves on and fries the bigger fish.

simply put, when you're in this market, you keep moving up and up...

Yea I know, Ernie is pretty sick. But still, im saying that car is a sick piece of work. Haha, I mentioned to sean once...
"You have Big Bird yellow R33... U have Ernie...white R34... Why not make Elmo Red R32?" hehe. he liked the idea.

yo yo, hang on the turbo on one side thing, i heard somebody said something about flame thrower kit, ya? ya i heard of it before and they said they just fixed another ignition system with a automatic cut off for the coil, any body had any idea of an efficient way to cut off the primany circuit of the coil? or any suggestions?

An open, hook it to a switch and you are good to go.

wait, a bit of history, the scc said the camaro-stripe skyline had an almost stock rb26, and it ran slower than a stock skyline, meaning- 280hp or less. but thats beside the point, somewhere along i heard that the car originally belonged to c.g, whoever he is, and it was called blackbird, it was black, it had a powerfully modded engine, the owner sold it for a diablo. then i saw another site that has photos of the original car, which was blue, had a sporty red line on the side, and was owned by the same guy, but after the movie was finished he painted it blue and red again because the fnf design was "horrible". and now someone says the car actually had a toyota engine in it. what the hell? someone tell me everything in a nutshell.

and dont flame me for being so curious in a shitty movie, i only want to know which is rumor and which is true. and yes i hate the movie, dont worry

It did not have a Toyota engine.

Craig Leiberman(sp) Owned it, never heard anything about him selling it for a Diablo.

He was a buy out for the MAN! so he let them paint it for the movie, hey you gotta go for the cash some time in your life. lol

It was slow because it had no traction RWD only

Let me go into this a little more.

GTRs are not set up for the 1/4 mile. The fact that they have a very advanced drive train that allows them to launch very well helps a ot with 1/4 mile times, but that is not what they are built for.

You disconnect the front trans-axle and you have lost that all important 60ft time. Say your busting out a 1.8 with the AWD, then you disconnect to RWD only. Now, your 60ft times are 2.2. What do you think that will do to your elapsed time for the 1/4? Do you think it will only shave off that .4 from the slower start? Of course not, your going to drop a lot futher than that, probably close to .8-.9 sec.

do you really think that all 6 of the cars that were used in the movie were the blackbird?
do you really think that the stunt car used for some of the driving was the black bird?
the main car that the skyline was based on was craig's car, which was the blackbird. which was sold for a diablo. that info is in Nopi Street Magazine.

the main point here is that the cars didn't use supra motors to anyone's knowledge (that we can find), and that they were beat to shit and ran worse than a stock skyline. surprised? why?

they are worn out, have extra weight, and have burnt clutches, etc. why are you surprised that they ran slower?

come now kids.

why is this so difficult to believe?

My god... Haha, my point exactly. What has previously crossed my mind is that BlackBird may have been left 4WD and left at the 520hp (correct hp? I dont feel like researching it) and used for all the speed shots, such as it tearing around the corners before being wrecked. Now for the actual wrecks, jumps, risky shots etc. I am guessing that the RWD Skylines were used. Make sense everyone? Just a fly though. peace

of course it makes sense...
i doubt that the blackbird was used in any of the action shots, prolly more for closeups and what not.
but the skyline had such a minimal role anyways...

in any case, cars like that are treated with tons of respect, and used sparingly so they don't get messed up.

Exactly. Oh and by the way guys. I asked Victor of RB Motoring, he says that Blackbird dyno'd out at 444bhp... He says it would have about 500-520 at the crank. Just thought I would let y'all know.

isn't that those Nitrous blow off valves?

Yes, it was a N2O purge valve.

Yes, it was a N2O purge valve.

Here is a question, if you to put a lighter up to it when it was blowing out, what would happen?

a) Nothing
b) Blow out the flame
c) Make a big flame
d) Blow up the car

:smokin:

a, and if you mean the lighters flame, b. i dont think nitrous is flammable.

if the blackbird had 444bhp, how come the painted one ran slower? i didnt think the chrismas tree decorations were that heavy.. but yes i think rwd was a real speed problem.

what color was the car? black or blue?

fly- well they had to leave one car alone for the closeups and for shows.. so they didnt make the blackbird soar like an eagle

Well Blackbird... HENCE, the car was black. How do you know it ran slower? I think it moved pretty quitely in the shots that I saw it in (it was obvious which shots it was used in)... But the used Maya in so many shots (for animation) it was really kinda tough to tell which were done on computer, and which were really shot. If you really want I will link the fastautos link, post what Victor at RB Motoring told me, and post random sites on the Blackbird, so we can clear this all up, and stop talking about this movie. peace

Your the only one in disagreement. We are all readding from the same sheet of music;)

The car posted pretty slow 1/4 times, as documented in SCC. The car did not have a Toyota engine. The front drive shaft was disconnected.

What is the debate about?

"if the blackbird had 444bhp, how come the painted one ran slower? "

b/c the car that scc tested wasn't the blackbird. anything else?

come on. these cars were used and abused. they were ridden hard and put away wet. why do you think they ran shitty?
go look in the general forum (skyline) and you'll see a thread titled "I saw one for the first time"

it's almost a mirror of this thread.

"I think it moved pretty quitely in the shots that I saw it in "

i bet you think that the "action" shots on the covers of super street and import tuner Look quick too... it's all about how you use your camera. you can make any car look like it's moving fast, especially in a movie... ;)

No I was just asking what is the source? I was curious?

skylineusa- no debate, just stupid questions..

fly- yup i got the blackbird part

No I was just asking what is the source? I was curious?

source of what?

a, and if you mean the lighters flame, b. i dont think nitrous is flammable.

yes, i don't think Nitrous is flammable too but it's just air, but you might not know what's going to happened next.

Look man, im not some douche bag kidiot who bases his entire opinions on what he reads in Stupid Street, I formulate my own opinions at any chance I get. I know photo and videographic editing techniques as well man, and I know how to make things seem as they arent. All I said was that I think blackbird was used in the speed shots, for obvious reasons. The rest of the 6 Skylines were RWD. so dont talk to me like im some dumbshit kid who saw 2fast2queer2manytimes ok? And by the way... How much for that patent? :)

but you are some guy who is a tad too sensitive

NISMO LMR,

The price should be on my wife's web site, www.Allen-Brown.com if not, let me know and I will ask her.

Look man, im not some douche bag kidiot who bases his entire opinions on what he reads in Stupid Street

not sure what you're getting all huffy about, all that was asked was what source for what information you were referring to.

geezus man.

back to the question. what source were you talking about, regarding what information?

Nah man its just the people will jump on your ass about miss stating one damn thing. So im on edge about that. Sorry. Anyways. I was wondering where you guys saw that the 2f2f car ran slower? Magazine? Online? Just curious.

Cant find it on that website. Could you please ask her? Thanks. The patents per object or function Im guessing correct? Or is there some sort of discount for a bundle of objects? Because I have about... hmm... 3 items to get patented. If you could find out for me, that would be great. Thanks.

the 2f2f cars were slower as posted in SCC mag.
www.sportcompactcarweb.com
not sure if it's on the site, but it's in the magazine itself.

read the article and see what's up...

compared to how fast the black bird was, the movie car that they tested (which was beat up and worn out) was slower.

Ahhh thats too much effort... I'll take your word for it, seeming as it is a plausable statement. peace

thank you

Thats the problem with todays youth, give up because it to hard. ;p j/k

Haha, I have no problem with doing difficult things in order to make myself better. There is no problem there. I just didnt feel like looking through a webpage where there isnt a definate result. But hey your right, im not going to be 17 forever, so why act like an adult eh? Everyone forcing children to "act their age" is taking away the best years of our lives, ones of which there are no worries, ones of which we will never get back... So why act mature then?... What the hell were we talking about? Haha. peace :p

Tru Dat :biggrin:

Haha, at least all of the adults in here still have a good grasp on real life. haha

Skylines are the biggest loads of crap anywayz
i own the fastest car in this state
a 1984 Ford Falcon S with a twin paxton supercharged 351 cleveland
engine running avgas with a 300hp plate NOS kit...producing 1364hp without the nitrous!!!
theres a R33 twin turbo'd GTR skyline here that i raced and it didnt stand a chance...it was no drag race
im talking 100% pure street racing here boyz
NOTHING beats a V8
I mean NOTHING!!!!

You put a couple of turns in that road, a GTR will eat your lunch.

How do I know this, because I own a both.

American V8, and a few GTRs.

Guys like you, give Americans a bad name around the world, thanks for showing what a jackass you are.

ha.
are you serious?
you've got an 84 falcon, and it's the fastest thing in your state?

*cough*bullshit*cough*

and which state is that?
b/c i'm damn sure i can prove ya wrong...

... Yea man, my buddy owns a 1970 Falcon with basically that same set-up, and the local GTS-T beat the hell outta the thing on the track (road course). Your just looking for some crap here man, and the forum doesnt need any more, F^CK off! :p

Also keep in mind that in the JGTC in 2002. All Supras had 5.721 liter V-8's in them, and the Skyline's famous RB26DETT engine was replaced with a RWD(due to JGTC regs) VG30DETT drivetrain. And guess who was the 1 2 3 win? SKYLINE!

O yea and one more thing. Keep in mind that the Skylines ATTESSA and HICAS was compromised in this DT swap. NO 4WD NO 4WS... And Supra had a 25hp advantage... Hmmmm? :D

OOOoooo yea and one last thing. It occured to me that the Supra engine wasnt American V8 as you put it... But lets say the Corvette is an American V8 correct? Ok, well the Mosler MT900S finshed near last, and guess what engine she was sporting? Thats right, Corvette V8 engine. Also, the Viper was sporting a V10, finished near the middle. Well damn dude, I think your beat. Skylines are the SHIT! Some will never learn :p

americans are the slowest people eva i must say
im from Australia NEW SOUTH WALES
it weighs 1165kg
5 link sway bars and a panhard rod on a 9" LSD ford diff with 4:11:1 gears and cross slotted and drilled rotars, rear coils with monroe sesatrac shocks
nolathane idler arms on a RRS rack and pinion
RRS struts in the front
and u think corners worry it...HA

and by the way....eva heard of the GT40??
look into it youll find that le mans got ripped to peices by it 1st 2nd and 3rd and it was a V8 ford...not even the V12 ferrari's stood a chance

and the fella with the mate who has the 1970 falcon has no idea
they had bloody leafs on the back of them buddy.

find a road registed skyline that can run 8's!!!
i cant wait till i hit the streets of miami with my falcon
you little rice burner boyz wont no what hit yous!!!!

:screwy:
Skylines are the biggest loads of crap anywayz
hey, if you think that skylines arnt good enough for your australian style, why dont you put it in a less moronic and insulting way? like this- "IMO i dont think skylines are good cars because they are just not my taste, i like australian cars better" something like that. dont come in an internet disscussion board and fill the place up with bs about how fast your imaginary eagle thingy is, nor insult one of the best SPORTS SEDANS around. yeah iv heard of the ford gt40, i read that it beat a ferrari, but what is it? a SUPERCAR. S. U. P. E. R. - C. A. R. super, meaning, really really good in any way, car, meaning, a car. with wheels on it. :lol2:
you little rice burner boyz wont no what hit yous!!!!
rice burner? now thats just stupid. whered you get that from, the fast and furious? :rofl: i cant wait till i hit the streets of miami with my falcon :grinno: how about you go to japan and race some of the high powered skylines there?

supercar huh
is that y they have been a production car since 1968???
read alittle more into it

"skyline"...the japanese term for "battle god" The torque of these things couldnt break a bread stick!!!
they were made to take out the FORD RS500 sierra in the rally comps around the world but they didnt...so the RS500 was banned from every race in the world!! sounds fair huh

hav u ever seen a skyline racing in tokyo????
its like going through a school zone..they dont break the 180mph barrier

imaginary car...i like that...lol

and the smilies youre using might be funny to a 6 year old but there not needed here

Duuuuude OMG your facts our f^cking wacked out. Haha, my buddies Stagea over in Japan runs 8's street legal, and has a tops of over 230mph... Skyline front end conversion, and powered by the almighty RBX engine. 2750cc Mines N1 turbos, pushing well over a 1000hp. I dont think your realizing or grasping the power of the RB engine man. And I also think its funny that in 1991 the 787B powered by the 26B quad rotor Wankel engine beat the living hell outta everything in a 1 2 787B victory.. And guess how many 787's there were? only TWO. V8's are good I will say, but stop being a dick, dont come into a SKYLINE FORUM and talk shit. Your looking to cause some shit for some reason, your giving all American Muscle car drivers and bad name, and Australians a bad name. Go do some doughnuts or something man, peace

if u wanna talk rotarys then whats the use
of course the 787B won the curcuit races but all around they hav nothing and yes here the fastest street car is a RX3 Rotary
but u put an RX3 in the ring and its got nothing

i wasnt talking top speed
but if i was think about the GT40 back in 1968!!! top speed of over 240MPH on the street and it was only running a 302 fuel injected naturally aspirated with 450hp

your might be right about the 8 second skyline but ive neva seen one and ive seen one run flat 9's and the f^ucking thing was shaking like all shite i thought it was gunna explod...and that was with the full drag box and differentials with 1000hp

if that skyline your buddy has in japan has ova 1000hp how much torque has it got??

id like to know what sort of power it puts to the ground

could you maybe, just maybe, try proper english, so we don't get headaches reading your babble?

FYI.
a 302 powered gt40 will not hit 230.
the aero packages on those cars will not have you hitting 230 in the 60's trim.
don't come here and BS about a car you clearly know not much about.
just b/c there are people here who know skylines, don't think for a second that anyone here knows nothing else.

how about u jump onto kazaa and punch in GT40 for video then download the one of the 1968 GT40 that come 2nd to 1 of the other GT40's that won that year and watch the naturally aspirated 302 with 425hp do 230MPH in 5th gear at 5700RPM in the RAIN..the videos 33.3 meg and worth it!!

ok so there are videos to prove that.. but there are many many more videos to prove that skylines arnt junk. they may not be really good wit what your muscle cars are good at, but dont condemn it.

but, to be more offensive, you took fords best or one of the best car. so i have the right to choose nissans best car. i choose the r390 gt1! hah, beat that!

give me some info or a site on this nissan
whats the top 10 nissans????
i wanna know how they compare

What tranny are you running?

I take it you are useing the Aussie 351C heads, rather than the sucky US 4bbl heads. Do you any flow numbers?

What are your cam specs?

Nissan R390 GT1Price: $1,000,000
Performance
0-60 3.9 seconds
0-100 9.2 seconds
0-1/4 mile: 11.9 @122 MPH
Top Speed: 202 MPH
Engine:
Twin Turbo V8
Horsepower:550
Torque: 470 ft lbs @ 4400 rpm
Dimensions:
Length: 185.5 in.
Width: 78.7 in.
Height: 44.9 in.
Weight: 2420 lbs.

Ford GT90
Performance:
0 - 60 mph 3.1 seconds
0 - 100 mph 6.2 seconds
0 - 1/4 mile 10.9 seconds
Top Speed:245 MPH
Engine:
Quad Turbo V12
Horsepower 720 bhp @ 6600 RPM
Torque 895 Nm / 660 ft lbs @ 4750 RPM
Dimensions:
Length 4470 mm / 176.0 in
Height 1140 mm / 44.9 in
Width 1963 mm / 77.3 in
Weight 1600 kgs / 3527 lbs

oh yeah and the GT90 is $800,000

You build a Yugo to beat both of those cars, what is your point.

GTRs are crap because?

lets see them do it then??
GTR's are crap because they havnt got the all around performance...drag...corners...power plus they look like a civic on steroids..
you eva tried to hav a F^uck in the back of em???
not easy...and when isolated into a catagory like drag they cant even beat a corolla!!!
some people might find them a good looking car but they just dont do it for me.

my point was raysoh8 wanted to no of sumthing betta..so i gave it to him

Your intitled to your own opinion, albeit very biased.

Drag, yes, they really cannot compare, but they were never intended for the 1/4 mile.

Corners, ok this is where it sort of like the twilght zone? How do come to this conclusion?


R32, looks like a Civic. Yea, like the falcon looks like a Metro!

no no
they can corner like all F^ck ill give em that
i mean they cant corner as well as go hard at the drags..your get me??

i have a video of a GT40 replica and the fastest Skyline In New Zealand (sure its a gay place but still) the skyline has a 700hp race engine.
it races the GT40 to the beach and back and the GT40 out runs it.
this may be becasue of the very low body roll of the GT40 and the mid rear mounted engine.
but its not a curcuit race so it might of been that the GT40 had more power ova the R33 and the R33 neva had a chance to out corner it.

and what is more fun. cornering is a sport, drag racing is for people that can't corner a vehicle in a save manner.

everyone can kick on a gaspedal. but few can get a car around a corner on the edge.

and what is more important. torque says some much more than power. and turbo engines have lots of torque. it is torque that propel you forward.

He and it is fine that you don't like the looks. (it wasn't good if everbody liked the same car) but say it on a more 'relaxed' way.

Derby

if seen that video, lets say it is a movie...everything is scripted. not a very strong argument.

Derby

obviously youve neva run under a 12 second pass derby...if u think its easy think again...and yes cornering if fun..but coming outa that corner putting ova 1000Nm of torque to the ground gives u alot more of a buzz then just plane coming out of it fast

that is a way of looking at things. you can put 1000nm of torque on the wheels. but if you come out of the corner close to sliding and put the pedal down i already got some speed. i don't need to accelerate from 5mph again.

and no i never did a 12 sec run. but than it is 12 seconds.

where i live the gov loves round abouts. to get home i'll have to pass 5 roundabouts on a mile.
i only got 120hp at 830kg. i lose every american car on that one mile. till now only the evoVI could hold up.

Derby

5mph...thats just stupid
but even if u hav some speed the 1000Nm+ is gunna kick your ass from that speed!
how big are these round abouts?
coz if there the size of the ones here u can take em at well ova 70MPH

70mph is only possible if you can fly. diameter 13-17meter. i can't get faster than 70kph. that is about 43mph.
alright 5 mph is slow. 1000nm is a lot. but is it use-able? a car with lets say 600nm is on short sprints. (5 roundabout on mile) probably faster.

What is it on american cars that is so nice, in your opinion?

Derby

yours are smaller then ours...i wouldnt no what my car would do around them..your probly rite..
you wouldnt be able to deliver the whole 1000+ to the ground coming out of the corner unless your planning on donutz...but when u hav 285mm tyres on the back you can press down pretty damn hard!!
im not into the american cars that much..apart from the mustangs and the GT40's i find them pretty plain.

it wasn't to prove i'm right but i look at all-day situations. i don't think 1000nm is probably a heavy engine, or it is a performance engine. heavy engine kills acceleration, and a performance engine is not good driveable.

i think a skyline barely tuned gives some nice figures and the driveability is pretty damn good.
And it is a car that is never imported here. so i never have seen one. a sort of unicorn( the horse with one....)

Derby

Ford_Man_1984,

So, what tranny are you running?

I am a Ford guy as well, I love torque.

Usable power, it rawks, but the high winding power of the RB26, reminds me of the Boss 302. Another very good engine.

yet a single turbo on a 4.1 litre crossflow straight 6 ford motor produced 19 years ago running 20psi gives u...11.8 second passes and 348kW at the wheels...thats weighing under 1400kg
sure it wont turn like a skyline but hell thats some crazy performance out of a motor with only forged pistons and rods.

its a TH400 by JRM transmissions
the boss 302 was an awsome engine and still is
they have a good history
to me torque is everything
but to me the torque of a 4.9 litre wasnt enough i had to go 351ci

I am working on a 393 with a T76, I have friends running 9s, with very mild cams

sweet as
hav u heard of the XA falcon in aus running 8.64 with a naturally aspirated 600ci ford engine running on nitrous??..its 1 of the fastest street cars in australia.

No, but sounds pretty damn cool.

You have a link?

I love Falcons!

Really though, don't come on hear trying to flame, its not cool.

nah sorry..its in a street machine mag i got
but ill hav a look for you

ok..im over it..sorry if i pissed anyone off

Cool :smokin:

no sorry theres no site for it...
but it has 894hp without the NOS and 1234hp with it..it runs 8.64@160MPH

in 2 fast 2 furious after the bridge jump at the start..they put new tyres on the skyline and it still drove. what i think is stupid is the gear changes..and why didnt brian just hold down the nitrous button when racing the chev and fly straight past..instead he droped it back a gear..as well as they were doing 140MPH and he put it in reverse, That was soooo F^ucking stupid!!!
and the fact that a 425hp+ V8 maxed out at 200km/h...

it's a movie? that's why...

the max speed of that 425hp car has everything to do with gearing, in the trans and the rear end... you should know that...

in any case, it's a movie.

i know its a movie but for gods sake
most manual cars (which this was) hav the ratio of 1:1 for fouth gear and even if the differential gears were 4:11:1 (which is drag gearing) at 6000RPM it would be well ova 200km/h!!!! plus you could hear the engine no where near peak....and on the dvd it tells u that the camaro does 180MPH+
but yes it is just a movie!
and a poorly made one at that!!!

4.11, it depends on the tires.

Do you have any pics of your Fast Falcon?

My friend says he thinks the smoke is the wastegate. I think that's already been established. Whatever. I'm getting a donut. Join me if you want.

Wastegate, thats a good one.

full circle, right back to the twin purge kit on the skyline... for the nitrous system...

over 1000 as well DUDE, stock the RB pushes 270 hp, and 289 torque (I am sure it is something like that, if I am wrong, correct me in a kind fashion) and that torque stays almost as consistant all the way up the tune line with RB's. It's also not your ordinary RB engine... Its whats called the RBX, out of the 400R, 2750cc with Mines N1's boosting her. I will post pictures if you please. He lives in Japan for a reason, cause hes sick of pricks like you. Im still not fully understanding your purpose here... You came into a NISSAN SKYLINE forum talking shit about a car none other than the... NISSAN SKYLINE. Dude just bite the bullet, get rid of your pride and just go away. Theres no fight here, so why create one???? peace :p

Wooooah... Somehow, someone posted about 25484 times while I was typing... And is no longer on the conversation... Haha. sorry

Also keep in mind that in the JGTC in 2002. All Supras had 5.721 liter V-8's in them, and the Skyline's famous RB26DETT engine was replaced with a RWD(due to JGTC regs) VG30DETT drivetrain. And guess who was the 1 2 3 win? SKYLINE!

The JGTC Skylines used the VQ30DE motor, which is an even bigger deal, since it is aluminum block. This sort of scared Toyota into abandoning the 3SGTE 4-banger and using the 1UZFE V8.

For the 2003 JGTC season, the VQ-powered R34 GT-R won the Team and Driver's championships. :iceslolan

VQ30DE?!?!? i would think they would at least drop in the Y33 drivetrain.. What the hell? Why a non turbo? Now why the hell are all of these companies droppin in lower powered motos for races? 3SGTE is a Celica Al-Trac motor right? Whats it doing in a supra?????

it has previously occured to me that even in the car stats, it said right there "Calsonic Skyline V6 TT engine" and the only V6 engine I would think would fit in there ok would be the VG... Where did u get the VQ figure from? Website? post it if u got it, peace :p

the tyres are ????/65R14 by the look of the drag way rims. and yes that still equals over 200 clicks

wow so much has been discussed since i left. now i have nothing to say

it has previously occured to me that even in the car stats, it said right there "Calsonic Skyline V6 TT engine" and the only V6 engine I would think would fit in there ok would be the VG... Where did u get the VQ figure from? Website? post it if u got it, peace :p

Nissan Motorsports using the VQ (http://www.nissan-dakar.com/EN/SPECIAL/RACING_VQ/index.html)

It's a pretty cool site. I thought the VQ was just used for the JGTC. The turbo VG isn't produced anymore, iirc. The VQ25DET already makes '276hp' and is used in the Stagea. There is already a production VQ30DET('276hp';) ) used in the current Cedric/Gloria, and the Cima too, I think.

The VQ effectively turned the R34 GT-Rs into front mid-engined cars. Drivers said the handling was far better. The VQs probably weigh under 500lbs, so there was a lot of weight saved, too(RB26 is in the 700lb range).
Using the VQ was a win-win, because it made about the same power as the GT500 class RBs(limited to ~500hp), made more torque, and weighed less.

It was cool that the Skylines won this year, since they will be retired. However, it was also a bit ironic that they were using VQs and not RBs. Well, whatever gets the job done. :iceslolan

If the VQ is aluminum, that is a big advatage.

If I can get the same power, weigh a hell of lot less, and a better power band, I am going with a N/A engine over anything else.

Well the JGTC VQs were turbocharged. However, I think it'd be very cool to see Nissan use the VK V8 in the JGTC. I know they can get around 500hp out of it. Around 400hp is probably possible in street legal form. The V8 will still weigh less than the RB did.

If Nissan upgraded to a V8, what would Toyota do? Use their V12? :lol:

anyone remember the 400hp NA crate motor that was at sema last year? nismo vq35... for the 350z

Yep, 450hp normally aspirated. It was like a work of art with those ITBs. :biggrin: Now if they'd just give the VK V8 that treatment, too. :eek7:

Personally, scratch both, and drop in an LM style RB26DETT drivetrain. (for those of you who dont know, RWD) and stick with the good old RB. I know its a heavy engine, cast iron isnt light, but still, power! I like that VK idea, alluminum, or cast? Same thing with Toyotas 1UZ engine, comprable wieght, but substantial power, good idea. peace :p

what size engine was the N/A 450hp?????

Give me a 351W, Trick Flow R intake, 185AFRs, 229/235 510/530 112 solid roller cam, 11:1 comp,Long tube headers, 1.7rr, and 36lb injectors with a good tune. 450/450 N/A of course.

Cost 3.5k :)

what size engine was the N/A 450hp?????
it was a 3.5L from a 350z

theres a 4 litre 6 running low 10's here..its insane...its a Hemi!!!
they hav a 402 small block windsor here with 702.6hp..its a legend because its naturally aspirated and carby fed!!
they droped it straight into a stock XW with stock suspention and even ran baffels and it ran 9.4!!!

"they hav a 402 small block windsor here with 702.6hp."

Ya, but what compression, and the cam would frickin huge.

First off the car DID have the original rb26 in it. The nitros was not hooked up, and all that was done was making it look pretty. now my question is how do you get a car that runs 12 sec quaters stock to run a 14.5 sec quarter after all the mods?

This GT-R was not modified for performance. The awd was disabled to make sliding easier. This also weakened the GT-R's launching ability. Thus, the higher 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

The car was thoroughly beat on during the movie's production and had the added weight of safety gear added(roll cage, etc). The GT-R may not have even been making the claimed power rating.

i found out something that would clear up all of the dumb "i know i saw a toyota engine in that skyline!"

the movie people that were in charge of the engine picture stuff screwed up somewhere and ended up putting a picture of the supra and labelling that picture "skylines engine" instead of "supras engine"

hey raysoh8
u havnt been posting much
did you like the way i beat your R390 GT1???
thought it was unbeatable ey????
haha
nice work solving the mystery in the engines though!! do u hav a site where i can see these engines??

The Photo Is in the "Sport Compact car" issue that reviews the cars from the 2f2f after movie production. I also thought it was messed when I saw the Toyota symbol on the valve cover. :}

so it wasn't a skyline with a supra engine, it was just a mislabeled foto...

Infact, the month after they posted that missque, they apologized for it, in the editor's section.

Everyone knows, that the Skyline did not a Supra engine.

Okay guys the answere to the mag. article in querstion is, they simply used the wrong picture with the skyline they used the exact same pictures for both the and the skyline and the 2fast2fag supra.
Next question: why is it that in America planes, boats, rv's, motorcycles, trucks, trians and old people do not need to concern them selfs with emissions but God forbid if you want to import car.
sometimes i wonder

just great that government...

the automotive industry is the most punished industry in the world...Cause everybody knows what a car is and how it works. most people don't even know how a plane is propelled forward. so greenpeace just don't worry about planes.

In the Netherlands 15% of polution comes from cars. but everyone here believes the cars should made cleaner. it is cause of enviroment groups the car got a bad name.

Volvo introduced a car where the exhaust gasses where cleaner then the intake air...

Derby

because they are americans

Volvo introduced a car where the exhaust gasses where cleaner then the intake air...
don't think that US companies don't have, and haven't had that technology for years...

it just dont make any since its like wipeing before you shit.

it was made for the hippie tree hugging bastards, the same ones that banned many of our favorite cars, jap or euro from coming here.


just a joke, folks. don't be TOO offended

don't think that US companies don't have, and haven't had that technology for years...

alright, then you know more than me. (which isn't a problem) but you got some links for me then.

Derby

i need links now?
i'm sure you could find some information from the California Air Resource Board, and i'm sure there are websites out there that i'm not going to waste my time looking for.
but that type of technology has been here in the states just as long, if not longer...
there's alot of stuff that manufacturers (everywhere) have that's not known about publically.

WAIT WAIT WAIT... So after all these weeks, it turns out that I was in fact right?! Well... Sorta, haha. I swore I saw a 2jz labeled Skyline engine. Anyways, peace out foo's :p

you saw an incorrect caption in a magazine.
that's all.

ok ford guy the video u r refurring 2 is high octane 2 big fan although it is scripted u r full of it kos the skyline passes it twice and gets too the beach first an beats him back aswell out runned i dotn think so reign on GTR fords suk im also an Aussie but after hearign u talk im ashamed 2 b

ok ford guy the video u r refurring 2 is high octane 2 big fan although it is scripted u r full of it kos the skyline passes it twice and gets too the beach first an beats him back aswell out runned i dotn think so reign on GTR fords suk im also an Aussie but after hearign u talk im ashamed 2 b

ok ford guy the video u r refurring 2 is high octane 2 big fan although it is scripted u r full of it kos the skyline passes it twice and gets too the beach first an beats him back aswell out runned i dotn think so reign on GTR fords suk im also an Aussie but after hearign u talk im ashamed 2 b

I was a contributor to this thread eons ago, but after reading your 'Let's resurrect a 3+ month old thread' post, I'm ashamed 2 b. :rolleyes:

IBTL :iceslolan