LS400 vs. Q45


autofan
12-05-2000, 10:17 AM
this is the 1995 Infiniti Q45
http://www.kbb.com/nctdpics/95q45.gif
this is 1996 Lexus LS400
http://www.kbb.com/nctdpics/96lxs40_.jpg

why was LS400 like 10 times more popular than Q45?
I really like Q45 more than LS400.
They are almost completely the same considering the power, performance, comfort, etc.
but I've heard that when Q45 debuted, their commercial was TERRIBLE, and lexus hit the target.
If anybody knows more about this, tell me.



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gang$tarr
02-13-2001, 09:23 AM
Well the Lexus is a way better car IMO........ it's way more luxurious

I like it better than the infiniti

Bean Bandit
02-13-2001, 03:50 PM
As I never saw an Infinity in Europe and LS400 everyday (we own one:D)it probably also a point. Serious I don't think that the Q45 had a big release in Europe.

Infiniti
03-22-2001, 07:29 PM
Infiniti is only available in the USA

nishboo
06-06-2001, 05:15 PM
they are both nice cars, but if u want great off-the-line performance, a Q45 is your car; A nice ride, similar to that of a mercedes, u would want a LS400. My brother has an LS400, and i have an Infiniti Q45, so i compare them all the time. here is just an outside pic of it, if you want to see it: http://www.southlakehigh.com and here are pics of my Q: http://nnn21.tripod.com/infiniti.html
:)

gang$tarr
06-06-2001, 09:43 PM
have you guys seen the commercial for the new INFINITI Q45???? THAT CAR LOOKS SWEET NOW!!
the commercial shows how the car has all voice activated stuff and in the other commerciall i saw it shows how the car has like a camera in the back, so you can see everything behind the car on the navigation system screen

igor@af
06-06-2001, 09:45 PM
All of you might be interested in reading this:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2953

gang$tarr
06-06-2001, 09:58 PM
thanks igor

Morpheus XIII
06-09-2001, 12:33 AM
You guys should make a new thread titled LS430 vs. Q45, both being the new models. Now here is some HEAVYDUTY competition.

Will the Q45's 50 extra horsepower be able to make up for its past poor sales? Now that the Q is up to par with the luxury factor, how will the very-original 2001 model compare with the new German-esque LS430?

I've always preferred Nissan, and I've always preferred the Q45, but however, I feel that the LS will fare better. Company/customer loyalty is very important, and since LSs have sold in the past, LSs should continue to sell in the future.

DAMNIT:zx11pisse

Jay!
07-04-2001, 05:50 PM
I always kinda liked the big goofy "prize-fighter belt" front end on the Q when it was new.

If we're comparing the mid-'90s models, I prefer the Q45.

LiuBei
12-12-2001, 08:39 PM
Lexus all the way. Do some homework and you will find the winner hands down to be the Lex.

gang$tarr
12-12-2001, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by LiuBei
Lexus all the way. Do some homework and you will find the winner hands down to be the Lex.

support your arguement....
i would take the Lex over the infiniti... but the infiniti does have alotta impressive features, aswell as more power and a cheaper price

i think i explained myself earlier in this thread

LiuBei
12-12-2001, 09:09 PM
Hey what do you think about the new models? I've already commented about this in another thread. I think the new Q is cheaper and offers alot. But yet the Lex offers more and you certainly get what you pay for.
Tough call, but I would still take the Lex.

Morpheus XIII
12-13-2001, 10:55 PM
There's still something you get from the Infiniti that you can't get from the Lexus: uniqueness. There are just too many Lexuses rolling around piloted by undeserving yuppies. Most of the Qs I've seen are powered around the streets, like underdog sleepers.

LiuBei
12-14-2001, 12:33 PM
And that statement is supposed to mean what? Infiniti is not unique, I would just say they are outsold.

Morpheus XIII
12-15-2001, 06:23 AM
It's unique in that Infiniti makes an attempt to specialize on a specific aspect of a luxury car, in this case performance, rather than joining the "me too" bandwagon and labeling themselves as possessing the most in luxury. Oh and another thing, many have been commenting on Lexus's current styling being a bit too derivative of European, particularly German, design.

LiuBei
12-15-2001, 09:28 AM
I agree with your comment on the Lexus LS430 styling. Regardless that is just the way things go nowadays. How many of today's newer cars do you think were copied off of some other? Just an observation.

Morpheus XIII
12-16-2001, 10:14 PM
Yeah, most automakers can't design a car without hitting similarity points from other cars. But the Q's nose end does have a fresh look that just "seems" more like a japanese product.

gang$tarr
12-17-2001, 04:24 PM
well the front looks alot like the new Nissan altima :D

Morpheus XIII
12-17-2001, 09:07 PM
You think? The Altima looks pretty similar to the LS from the front. Check out the headlights.

Tom_S8
03-19-2002, 02:50 PM
Anyway if it is for me , for luxury cars you have 2 choices : british or german... It's not that i don't like japanese cars but the luxury sedans lack character , japanese sport cars are nice... Anyway japanese cars suck because they're no good if you're not going to mod them they have to low power... Call me crazy but 276 hp isn't really a number that satisfies me... Yeah i know that some of them have over 300 hp even if the manufacturer says 276 but it's still low... My friend has a 91 lexus , it's a nice car , but it's really soft when it comes to suspension... By the way the engine isn't that strong at all , but i have no idea what to do in order to make it brake down... My friend's car has 470 000 Km on the clock and it runs , and runs , and runs , and runs ... i like that , not that my car's brake down (okay the porsches go crazy from time to time , but they give me more in return - POWER:devil: ) but my car is nowhere close to that milage

gang$tarr
03-19-2002, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Tom_S8
Call me crazy but 276 hp isn't really a number that satisfies me...

well the Skyline holds a record at the nurburgring, fastest coupe or something like that?? Fastest sports car, i think?

So... that pretty much proves it, those number don't mean that much...

Morpheus XIII
03-20-2002, 04:20 AM
Originally posted by Tom_S8
Anyway japanese cars suck because they're no good if you're not going to mod them they have to low power... Call me crazy but 276 hp isn't really a number that satisfies me... Yeah i know that some of them have over 300 hp even if the manufacturer says 276 but it's still low...

You said the key word: mod. Some cars are designed to be left alone. Some are designed to be tuned the hell out of. Japanese cars tend to easily fall into the latter category. A stock Japanese car is a relatively boring car; that's why there are so many partsmakers for them. Both the Skyline and the Supra can find their way into 700-800 hp territory with little pain, and like you've stated, with unmatched reliability. Push it to the envelope (if you've got the extra dough) and quad-digit readings are fairly accessible.

As for comparing Japanese to European luxury cars, it really has to do with one's taste and attitude towards how a car should respond to a driver. Unfortunately, you really can't compare Japan's high-end luxos to the uppershelf European cars--they aren't even in the same price range, let alone the same league. Those who like a simple and clean, mechanical, stark, pristine, unwavering luxury car go with the Lexuses and Infinitis at the cost of losing some upscale luxury items. Those wanting the ultimate in pampering and technological revolutions while yielding some dedicated reliability can go with the Jags, MBs, Bimmers, and even RR/Bentleys. It really has to do with who you are (and how much money you have! :lol2: )

retrodrive
06-08-2002, 05:57 AM
Considering that the new Q45 is slower then LS430 and has 50 more HP...I can only laugh at that. Can we say DRIVETRAIN LOSS?

olu40
09-30-2003, 01:28 PM
Alot of you are way of on the comparisons. First of all bothe cars are great vehicles and are headed closer to perfection every year. I have a first gen Q45 (94) and performance and character wise the Q definitly has the edge. As the years have gone on Infiniti was having a breakdown of identity trying to catch up in sales with the LS. A bad mistake. Now they are back on track but they better keep up because the LS in a year or two will be a killer to stop. Sales of a car doesnt make it better. S class an 7 series sales eclipse Q's and LS (In NY) but the cars suck for reliability and quality. So dont go by numbers. Lexus and Infiniti are always 1 and 2 on JD Power Associates list. Infiniti is finally coming back to life. With the G35's and the remaking of the Q's and M's (changing all toghether). Things are going to be totally different. Bottom line is I would get either the Q or LS over a piece of junk german car. Q's were innovators in technology in the beginning. Active suspension rear camera, new all wheel drive system. But Infinit advertisers need to be shot as well as the designers. But they have turned it around. I'm a lover of both. Lexus needs to add a little bit more edge in handling.

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