Which is the best ?

The LM has the looks and has way better accel than the f1 or the gtr or any other Mclaren.

The f1 has the highest top speed And the gtr is the best on the track!

There are 5 different type os mclaren know to date as far as the f1s go Not the lmps. The types are the F1 , LM , GTR , GTR long tail and the LE. < the f1s also comes with the gtr areo kit & a spoiler on it if you want a little more style> The LE might sound strainge but its actually the f1 with rear view mirrors on top of the doors. Mine is the Hot Mclaren LM there were only 5 made and they like the gtr's but they have no "air restrictors"! But what is the Best overall?????????

le? do u mean the GT, the car that was made to homologate the 97 GTR?

yea the gt is also called the le if you have ever seen the inside of it the floor matts and the embroidary have Le in silver stitching on them.

?? i've never heard that b4. Peloton?

where? http://a2.cpimg.com/image/24/32/25357092-05c7-01D101DC-.jpg

?? i've never heard that b4. Peloton?

That would be a new one for me also. Maybe someone with an F1 GT brochure could look through it and try to confirm. I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt that 'jcsaleen' has any real experience with an F1 GT. I've also never, ever heard of the F1 GT referred to as the LE anywhere else before. I don't like to call anyone a liar, but it certainly sounds strange to me.

jcsaleen - if you have a photo or more info to back that up, please share it with the group.

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could you mean LM saleen?

jcsaleen,
you are right in saying that there's 5 broad groups. But there is no version called LE.

The groups are:
F1
LM
GTR (racecar - 95, 96)
GTR 97 (longtail racecar - 97)
GT (longtail road car)

Some notes:
- Each of the above versions had exerimental prototypes. Those chassis were designated XP.

- Quite a few of the F1s have had the HDF kits added. Their F1 roadcar designation has not changed.

- Some roadcars have received LM spec engines and other modifications. Their F1 roadcar designation has not changed.

- One of the GTRs has been converted to full LM spec. Its GTR designation has not changed.

-The GTR cars were significantly changed each season, so the 95 and 96 cars are different, even though visually they appear to be similar.

-In 97, the longtail GTR came out, and, besides the mechanical differences, it was very different visually.

- A racecar was built out of spare parts by a team in Japan. The chassis has an SP designation.

So, if you wanted to be really particular, you could divide the GTR group into GTR 95 and GTR 96. And you could also add SP to the list, making 7 distinct groups. The XPs are representative of the group of cars that they were experimental prototypes for, so I would not put them in a separate group. I would also not create a group for the clinic cars.

To answer your question, of which one is best:
IMO it is the LM. It has the racecar's performance without the crudeness of the GTRs. In some ways, it has superior performance, since it does not have intake restrictors. The LM also has the "king among kings" pedigree, and I think it is simply gorgeous to look at--the black carbon fibre accents set off the orange very nicely.

What I like most about it, though, is that it is completely useable as a roadcar. That was the whole point of the McLaren F1. To take one and convert it into a raw racecar does it a disservice, I think. The LM stays true to the philosophy behind the greatest roadcar ever built.

have no fear, tvrfreak is here :)

What is the difference between a standard car and the LM?

a lot. i'll let peloton tell you. i'm too lazy to type. Btw, ITS MY BIRTHDAY TODAY! YAY!

congrats
how old are you now?
it was mine 2nd of november :-D
uncle said he still tried to give me a ride in the spyker double 12 s prototype (hugenholtz's a bizniz associate:-D)

The LM is the best all-around F1, I think.

If a windfall of dollars came my way I would have to have 2 F1s though. A standard, ho-hum F1 road car (BRG or that deep purple color). And a GTR for the track. Of course, I would also have a summer home in St Joviet, Quebec with a garage for it - just down the road from the Mt Tremblant race circuit...

EDIT: Happy Birthday, by the way. And to you Maarten. Coincidently, mine was Oct 29.

i'm 16 :) . Hopefully getting my permit on Friday

1 year older, but i need to wait another year and about 1500 euro's before i'm getting my permit:-$ life's a bitch

hehehehe. hey drew can i drive the TMS E30 M3 project car :evillol: ?

Interesting how this has turned into the birthday thread. :lol2:

Happy Birthday to all of you! :bananasmi

I turned 28 in August - getting older by the minute over here. ;)

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cool. happy belated b-day, lol ;)

On the topic of b-days, I just turned 18 today.

awesome man. happy b-day. what did u get?

a porsche? (1:18)

just kidding.......:P

ok?>?>? I got an ipod, some books (one has a big pic of the yellow mac in fromt of genesis so i'll scan it later) and some money :) a cool sweater and an england rugby shirt :)

a heineken bottle opener (it's sooo cool) a jacket or coat (can't get the right word), a bicycle, 200 euro's, a shawl, i was offered some other stuff i could never possably accept and a promise to get a ride in a spyker prototype with about 620 bhp... should be able to annoy a mclaren pretty bad, for less than half the price (think 400.000 euro's, before taxes)

damn u, i love the spyker. oh well, i am very happy with what i have.

That would be a new one for me also. Maybe someone with an F1 GT brochure could look through it and try to confirm. I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt that 'jcsaleen' has any real experience with an F1 GT. I've also never, ever heard of the F1 GT referred to as the LE anywhere else before. I don't like to call anyone a liar, but it certainly sounds strange to me.

jcsaleen - if you have a photo or more info to back that up, please share it with the group.

>8^)
ER

im kinda new at this how do u post pics and I saw the image on google so it might be bull shit but i saw it it was labeled under images i saw it a while ago like 7 months ago so it might not be there any more it was a red f1 it looked like but I dont remember what the specific details of it.

I have only seen that 1 pic of it so your probably right maybe its fake but maybe the guy just made it custom. people who own a mclaren usually have the money to customize it.

thanks thats what I was thinking of!!

Do you think there are cars better all around in performance to any of the f1's?

the dauer 962 le mans?

You need to find a place to host the image - there are several sites including the gallery here, www.imagestation.com and others.

Once you have the image hosted, you can embed it into your post using this button " http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/wysiwyg/vB_InsertImage.gif " which appears above the window when you are typing your post. All you have to do is paste the image's URL into the window that pops up.

If you have problems hosting, or posting the image you can also try emailing it to me at Peloton25@hotmail.com

BTW- Aren't you going to tell us when your birthday is?? :D

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BTW- Aren't you going to tell us when your birthday is?? :D

Mine is april 13 thats when i start driving yeA!! hehe

thanks thats what I was thinking of!!

Do you think there are cars better all around in performance to any of the f1's?

the dauer 962 le mans?

Hey jcsaleen - If you want to reply to a specific person's post that isn't directly above your's, please use the "Reply w/Quote" button to the bottom right of their post so we all know what your comments are in reference to. It isn't necessary to use it everytime you post, but if you think it will help make things more clear, please do so.

Thanks!

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Hey jcsaleen - If you want to reply to a specific person's post that isn't directly above your's, please use the "Reply w/Quote" button to the bottom right of their post so we all know what your comments are in reference to. It isn't necessary to use it everytime you post, but if you think it will help make things more clear, please do so.

Thanks!

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do u have an aim sn if so send it to jcsaleen3@hotmail.com

I have one, but I don't use it. I'm not much for chatrooms or instant messages. You can always send me a Private Message through this site, or email me directly.

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