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Best SleepersTwyzz 10-20-2003, 05:33 PM Old Caravans, Dodge Shadows, Omnis, Old Probes, AE86, Regal T-Type. any others? fatninja19 10-20-2003, 05:46 PM YA!! Minivans!! I've yet to associate AE86's as sleepers because they really aren't all that fast in a straightline... Even with the 4agze motor shoehorned in. Polygon 10-20-2003, 06:45 PM I think that any of the FWD Turbo Dodges and Chryslers were some of the best sleepers, except the Daytona. KrNxRaCer00 10-20-2003, 06:52 PM don't forget a metro. swap in the 1.3 rot from an rx-7 tt...who'd ever think? GTStang 10-20-2003, 07:17 PM Ford Focus ZX3 with a N/A 4V Cobra motor. Saw it at FFW :evillol: Polygon 10-20-2003, 07:19 PM Hey, are we talking stock sleepers or modded sleepers here, cuase if you modded sleepers I have a great one. GTStang 10-21-2003, 12:18 AM Hey, are we talking stock sleepers or modded sleepers here, cuase if you modded sleepers I have a great one. Yea I guess I went off the stock thing. So hit us with your non-stock winner! Steel 10-21-2003, 01:08 AM 20b RX-3.... i want one in a BAD way. tha_new_guy 10-21-2003, 02:42 AM How about a 1995 Buick Roadmaster Limited Edition?? Runs the 1/4 mile in 15 sec. flat stock since it's powered by a massive 5.7L V8.... Kinda makes you think twice about that 4-door buick sedan next to you at a stoplight, huh? :evillol: NSX-R-SSJ20K 10-21-2003, 03:37 AM How about a 1995 Buick Roadmaster Limited Edition?? Runs the 1/4 mile in 15 sec. flat stock since it's powered by a massive 5.7L V8.... Kinda makes you think twice about that 4-door buick sedan next to you at a stoplight, huh? :evillol: thats hardly sleeper speed is it? Volvo S70 T5 runs 14.5 i bet the new S60 R does 13 something or less. (it has 300hp) tha_new_guy 10-21-2003, 04:09 AM But it's a Buick! Any stock Buick that's remotely quick qualifies as a sleeper in my book.... Yea, yea, I know. The Grand National is hardly a sleeper, tho. Alldar 10-21-2003, 08:22 AM i personally want to buy a STi then take off all the decals, get the wing taken off and move the intercooler to the front and get a flat RS 2.5 hood.... no one would know wtf knew what hit them... see you buy a nice car that runs good then make it look like a sleeper NSX-R-SSJ20K 10-21-2003, 12:01 PM i personally want to buy a STi then take off all the decals, get the wing taken off and move the intercooler to the front and get a flat RS 2.5 hood.... no one would know wtf knew what hit them... see you buy a nice car that runs good then make it look like a sleeper you'd be better off buying the Sti Spec C it has all the same stuff just lighter and no wings and stuff. Japan only tho. SpyderEclipseGst 10-21-2003, 12:13 PM Yea I guess I went off the stock thing. So hit us with your non-stock winner! Id have to say a plymoth laser rs. Swap a mitsu 4g63 with a fully build motor, 20g turbo, with all the goodies including an awd tranny. Itd be an ugly ass car but no one would expect a laser to have 600+ hp with 2000lbs or less weight to boot... turbo2nr 10-21-2003, 02:17 PM agreed most stock looking dsm are sleepers 1 Polygon 10-21-2003, 06:52 PM Yea I guess I went off the stock thing. So hit us with your non-stock winner! Alright; it was a 1970 Dodge Challenger. Not much of a sleeper except he had 340 badges on it. Too bad it was far too loud to be a 340. When the guy took off at the light all I could think was that it wasn't street legal. Talked to him later and it wasn't. He had a twin supercharged 528 Hemi under the hood. The body was custom made and a lot lighter than the original. He had a lot of frame and suspension work done as well. I looked the car over and the guy must have been rich. Not too much of a sleeper but a hell of a lot more than I was expecting. Id have to say a plymoth laser rs. Swap a mitsu 4g63 with a fully build motor, 20g turbo, with all the goodies including an awd tranny. Itd be an ugly ass car but no one would expect a laser to have 600+ hp with 2000lbs or less weight to boot... The Plymouth Laser could be had with Turbo and AWD. Why bother with the swap? Also it didn't look much different from the same year Talons and Eclipse. They are the same exact cars. Also, DSMs are NOT sleepers. Some people even think that the new Eclipse is fast. Cl0ak 10-21-2003, 07:03 PM Just my personal opinion but I think a sleeper should not look at all fast, and should look 100% stock. I saw a old beat up buick on the highway the guy was doing the speed limit until this camry kept trying to cut him off than he floored it and I don't know what he was running under there but he took off like no one's business. tha_new_guy 10-21-2003, 07:55 PM Alright; it was a 1970 Dodge Challenger. Not much of a sleeper except he had 340 badges on it. Too bad it was far too loud to be a 340. When the guy took off at the light all I could think was that it wasn't street legal. Talked to him later and it wasn't. He had a twin supercharged 528 Hemi under the hood. The body was custom made and a lot lighter than the original. He had a lot of frame and suspension work done as well. I looked the car over and the guy must have been rich. Not too much of a sleeper but a hell of a lot more than I was expecting This is probably a Noob question but how do you twin supercharge a motor? Two throttle bodies? I've never heard of that before... Please. Enlighten me. :rolleyes: 2of9 10-22-2003, 04:36 PM agreed most stock looking dsm are sleepers 1 yes, i do agree. other sleepers: 240sx w/ SR20DET, RB motors Talon/Elclipse AWD Civics Accords Integra and thats all i can think about.. VP-Dyno 10-24-2003, 12:09 PM To me any more the best sleeper would be a car with all the body kits and paint jobs done to it .. cuz for me .. when i see car slow lookn car tryn to race and stuff i just get the vibe that he is sleepn .. but when ever you see alot of the show cars tryn to race .. you think he just some dude that spent all his time and money on his body and and maken his car look like a race car but really aint .. you see a ton of hondas / acuras and mitu's with body kits that are just slow as hell .. and see mass cars lookn slow . just pulln on people .. ( just some thin i been noticeing more and more .. that what we used to call sleepers we can racers and what we would call racers are sleepers .) VP-Dyno 10-24-2003, 12:17 PM Just my personal opinion but I think a sleeper should not look at all fast, and should look 100% stock. I saw a old beat up buick on the highway the guy was doing the speed limit until this camry kept trying to cut him off than he floored it and I don't know what he was running under there but he took off like no one's business. I think a sleeper is a car that you wouldnt think is fast for any reson .. not really a car that is stock and/or a slow stock car LOOKing .. Sleeping isnt aboutbeing stock .. its more about tricking the other racer .. so really a good sleeper would be some basic car you see with the loudest exhauts you could find and a side mount intercooler and very silent blow off .. and make people think your rideing it hard and be slow .. till you really get on it .. sleeping is about hiding the truth.. just what i think ..lol .. Nissan and mitsu trucks with sr20det or 4g63 swap's ... in a stock lookn truck .. lol mynismo 10-24-2003, 12:43 PM Volvo S70 T5 runs 14.5 i bet the new S60 R does 13 something or less. (it has 300hp) i'd have to say volvo also, the s70's are phat. my bro has a volvo 850 "wagon" t-5r, runs a flat 15.0. i guess i got a sleeper too, 95 nissan maxima gxe, stick. runs a 14.9 all stock. LoW_KeY 10-24-2003, 01:31 PM I know back when I had my 2.8 I could pull off a 15.1 in the 1/4 not sure if thats really sleeper status.. but everyone thinks I slapped formula on the side and put rims on my car :biggrin: so I guess you could say mine is..? the look on their faces afterwards is priceless.. A guy's recent attempt in a 3800 Grand Prix.. he just joined the Grand Prix Forum and I noticed he was from alma, the place I live. Anyways I asked him what color it was cause I thought it might've been the one guy that I shocked. "It's i guess, maple red, is what GM calls it. I'm sure you probably remember my headlights fading in your rearview. haha, ya had me good, nice sleeper." wingsofwar 10-25-2003, 02:55 AM heres a sleeper for ya, take a crappy ass lookin car..hmmm.....oh a 1989 Mazda 323 hatchback, and install a bluebird SR20DET. modify the engine and crank the boost up to 20psi or higher...after pressing the Qtec button on a 4.5 in downpipe.. or how about this... 1989 Delorean with a RB26DETT and a larger turbo upgrade with Mines ECU and boost it and when you win..tell them your flux capacitor gives you 200 more horsepower..lol im just messin..i dont even know what im talking about..i need a drink. raysoh8 10-25-2003, 04:39 AM skyline r32 GTR. thats the only car i know of. (btw anyone how did i get so many posts? i dont think i posted that much) Amish_kid 10-25-2003, 08:46 AM heres a sleeper for ya, take a crappy ass lookin car..hmmm.....oh a 1989 Mazda 323 hatchback, and install a bluebird SR20DET. modify the engine and crank the boost up to 20psi or higher...after pressing the Qtec button on a 4.5 in downpipe.. or how about this... 1989 Delorean with a RB26DETT and a larger turbo upgrade with Mines ECU and boost it and when you win..tell them your flux capacitor gives you 200 more horsepower..lol im just messin..i dont even know what im talking about..i need a drink. No need for the sr20 in the 323 they a GTX model which was basically turbo'd and awd made like 140-160 hp if I'm not mistaken and they can handle some good amounts of boost I've seen some with about 300hp. NSX-R-SSJ20K 10-25-2003, 11:50 AM a black volvo 240 with a supercharged V8 in it Amish_kid 10-25-2003, 12:01 PM a black volvo 240 with a supercharged V8 in it Or just get a Turbo motor from a 700 or 900 series they can handle quite a bit of boost and in doing so you wouldn't get all the extra weight from the v8 and just keep the 4 cyl. cefalufrank 10-25-2003, 02:30 PM Cherokee Sport is a sleeper, does 1/4 in 13 secs. Stock Condtion. Fixed up, I think u can get it down to 12 Amish_kid 10-25-2003, 03:24 PM Riiiiiighhhht :screwy: The only way you'll ever get a Jeep Cherokee into 13's or even more unhead of 12's would be to supercharge a 360 and toss it in there and strip the interior and you might hit 12's. And just to go off some evidence a Viper GTS runs the 1/4 at about 12.9 - 13.5 with a good driver. NSX-R-SSJ20K 10-25-2003, 03:49 PM Or just get a Turbo motor from a 700 or 900 series they can handle quite a bit of boost and in doing so you wouldn't get all the extra weight from the v8 and just keep the 4 cyl. swedes do either on a regular basis GIS3 DVD has a 11 second Volvo (red) 850 T5 with no exterior mods and doing teh 1/4 on steelies mynismo 10-25-2003, 06:19 PM swedes do either on a regular basis GIS3 DVD has a 11 second Volvo (red) 850 T5 with no exterior mods and doing teh 1/4 on steelies where can i get a copy of that dvd??? that'd make a great xmas present for my brother. cefalufrank 10-25-2003, 10:22 PM Riiiiiighhhht :screwy: The only way you'll ever get a Jeep Cherokee into 13's or even more unhead of 12's would be to supercharge a 360 and toss it in there and strip the interior and you might hit 12's. And just to go off some evidence a Viper GTS runs the 1/4 at about 12.9 - 13.5 with a good driver. I was kidding around bro! lol calm yourself :P But will that really work? you can really make a jeep cherokee a sleeper? GTStang 10-26-2003, 01:16 AM Great Sleeper a Shogun= Ford Festiva with V-6 220HP SHO motors crammed in them, 50 where made. Now that is a Fucking sleeper!!!! Get a Grand Cherokee with the 5.9 motor all time 4WD. Slap on a Powerdyne S/C kit, full length headers, exhuast. Mid 13's easy with full interior. HiFlow5 0 10-26-2003, 01:29 AM I'm still partial to pimping out a Ford Pinto! There's one in town that's restored, but not modded. Cbass 10-26-2003, 07:00 PM Alright; it was a 1970 Dodge Challenger. Not much of a sleeper except he had 340 badges on it. Too bad it was far too loud to be a 340. When the guy took off at the light all I could think was that it wasn't street legal. Talked to him later and it wasn't. He had a twin supercharged 528 Hemi under the hood. The body was custom made and a lot lighter than the original. He had a lot of frame and suspension work done as well. I looked the car over and the guy must have been rich. Not too much of a sleeper but a hell of a lot more than I was expecting. It's one hell of a sleeper alright, the 340 Challenger was a dog! The E body Chryslers weighed in at around 3600lbs, IIRC, and the 340 was delivered with a bad exhaust system and the ignition severely retardted through it's entire curve. Now a blown stroker hemi, that has just about enough grunt to get a Challenger off the line, especially with a custom body to drop the weight :icon16: Cbass 10-26-2003, 07:02 PM Oh, I forgot to throw in my ultimate sleeper. 1986 Ford Aerostar 2.8, with the V6 badges removed. Well, not so much removed as rusted of :iceslolan New engine will be a 302 Ford, fairly low compression, but with more than enough grunt to get a 3200lb van moving comfortably, probably 14 second 1/4s. :evillol: 2strokebloke 10-27-2003, 08:56 PM A Yugo GV. Because the Yugo's engine and transmission were based off of Fiat's 128, it's easy to swap a 1.5 liter engine from an X19 into the place of the Yugo's little 1.1 liter unit, and that alone is major upgrade for power and speed. The Yugo in my sig has a 2.0 liter engine in it. The orignal engine was 55hp, the Fiat 1.5 is 75hp but easily tuned to much higher outputs. OoNismoO 10-27-2003, 09:21 PM yea i think the ultimate sleeper would have to be that chrysler/dodge minivans that came turbocharged from the factory. i want one, just imagine beating someone really bad in one of those, the look on their face would be priceless. Funkdeal 10-27-2003, 11:42 PM i can't only one person mentioned the maxima. my dad has a 2003 maxima and it kicks ass. it does 0-60 in less than 6 and a half seconds. he has the SE model too, so it handles like a sports car (well not THAT good, but it's still really good for a sedan). if anybody is looking for a fairly cheap, fast sedan, i highly recommend the maxima. my dad got his for about 24,000. DkShadow 10-28-2003, 02:59 AM My car with a V6 bumper, running dumps, and pony badges. :D :evillol: Thinking of swapping the hood though, dont know to what. :dunno: Decoy 10-28-2003, 05:58 AM What about this mini pushing 350hp :naughty: ? Hello everybody, i'm vinnie from the maigty mini from Belgium. We have made a mini cooper with a m3 3liter engine inside for the Belgium endurance championship, and last weekend on francorchamps we won our first race with it, amazing no, ownly the 4the race of the car and already a winner. We apear in the next BMW CAR (britisch magazin) on the cover, and if you want to see pictures , visit my website. For the britisch people, we coming to Donington on juli 27the to the "mini racing festival" weekend with our little devil. greetings vinnie Belgium:flash: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=50889 http://www.misteryracing.com/sennake/belcar_01/71_01.jpg Take off the wing, the paint job, and most of the visible changes and you'd have a deadly sleeper :) If a mini rolled up beside you and reved it's engine then you raced it and got you ass handed to you. I'm sure you'd be surprised :) Neutrino 10-28-2003, 09:02 AM i can't only one person mentioned the maxima. my dad has a 2003 maxima and it kicks ass. it does 0-60 in less than 6 and a half seconds. he has the SE model too, so it handles like a sports car (well not THAT good, but it's still really good for a sedan). if anybody is looking for a fairly cheap, fast sedan, i highly recommend the maxima. my dad got his for about 24,000. i presume that the SE is the one with the 3.5 VQ rirght? those new 3.5 VQ maximas are quik but to notorious because of the engine to make good sleepers. IMo the best sleeper are the car anyone expects to be complete dogs like a festiva or a metro..... carrrnuttt 10-28-2003, 10:26 AM I can't believe in this whole thread, nobody has mentioned this particular car ;) : http://www.rc.i4m.org/Sentra.jpg You don't really have to do anything to it to make it a sleeper. Mine has fading paint, so it makes it that much more "sleeper". Nobody recognizes what the "SE-R" means in such a boxy, old car :D. Besides, a little de-badging, wing/foglamp deletion, will amplify things even more. Now imagine an SR20DET swap in that de-badged car with steel rims... Other than that, an Omni GLH-S, that runs 14.8 STOCK, or any of the older turbo-Dodges would work too, especially a K-car. mynismo 10-28-2003, 12:06 PM i can't only one person mentioned the maxima. my dad has a 2003 maxima and it kicks ass. it does 0-60 in less than 6 and a half seconds. he has the SE model too, so it handles like a sports car (well not THAT good, but it's still really good for a sedan). if anybody is looking for a fairly cheap, fast sedan, i highly recommend the maxima. my dad got his for about 24,000. as nuetrino said, the new max's are known to be really fast from the manufacturer. no one messes with them... they know what's up :evillol: well at least they don't mess with the 3.5's but know one knows about the 95-99 maxima... i have a 95 max gxe and it does a 14.9 stock, that's only two tenths second less than the new 3.5. and i got mine for 21000 less. :biggrin: think of the mods i can do with 21000.... take a look at this beast maxima http://www.hlh0501.com/ he has almost 500hp and he only wants 12000 for it. the turbo kit is less than 5k/installed. DkShadow 10-28-2003, 09:17 PM I can't believe in this whole thread, nobody has mentioned this particular car ;) : http://www.rc.i4m.org/Sentra.jpg You don't really have to do anything to it to make it a sleeper. Mine has fading paint, so it makes it that much more "sleeper". Nobody recognizes what the "SE-R" means in such a boxy, old car :D. Besides, a little de-badging, wing/foglamp deletion, will amplify things even more. Now imagine an SR20DET swap in that de-badged car with steel rims... Other than that, an Omni GLH-S, that runs 14.8 STOCK, or any of the older turbo-Dodges would work too, especially a K-car. Because theyre ugly and slow and nobody would be caught driving let alone owning one :p :D ... j/k, now take your mouse away from the "Ban" option ;) :p Also, dont you remember Carrrnut??? It isnt a sleeper if it has a power adder :lol: carrrnuttt 10-28-2003, 09:24 PM Also, dont you remember Carrrnut??? It isnt a sleeper if it has a power adder :lol: Oh yah...that one...LOL. I can't even remember what troll said that one... Besides, no power-adder yet, so according to him, I'm REALLY sleeper ;). HiFlow5 0 10-29-2003, 07:46 AM Oh yah...that one...LOL. I can't even remember what troll said that one... Besides, no power-adder yet, so according to him, I'm REALLY sleeper ;). I sleeper would be a car that is unsuspection to others. So to everyone here who knows your car, then it doesn't count, cause we all know what it can do. :biggrin: On the street though, this is a different story. NSX-R-SSJ20K 10-29-2003, 07:51 AM where can i get a copy of that dvd??? that'd make a great xmas present for my brother. www.getawayinstockholm.com has NTSC DVD's but they cost like $34 (i just bought GIS4 for this price) www.play.com has PAL DVD's (EUROPEAN STANDARD) whether or not it has NTSC DVD (US TV COMPATIBLE) is another matter. Twyzz 10-29-2003, 03:13 PM civics aren't sleepers, peopel know there fast. I"m talking about cars that look shitty but are fast as fuck with a little internal work. Omni's are sleepers, an honda mini van with nos is a sleeper (my friend hooked pu prelude got his ass handed to him by a Odyessy that sprayed him). The sleepers I'm talking about are cars that are not meant to be fast, but people make them that way. mynismo 10-29-2003, 03:16 PM www.getawayinstockholm.com has NTSC DVD's but they cost like $34 (i just bought GIS4 for this price) awesome. so number 3 has the volvo?? that place looks cool, i might get all 4 right now. later, -mark EC0T3C 10-29-2003, 03:59 PM Old ass Cavalier Z24 Hatches. Damn now thats my kinda sleeper (or my car also). EC0T3C 10-29-2003, 04:04 PM 2of9 10-29-2003, 04:07 PM ALL my cars in GT3 are sleepers, no body kits, no nothin, jus extremely high horsepower! but where i live, i have heard of a 11 sec Supra singo turbo. I kno like 5 DSM sleepers including one 3000GT VR4...very scary sleepers. but those cars rarely come where i street race, i call them the Wanderers.. :iceslolan Polygon 10-29-2003, 04:44 PM civics aren't sleepers, peopel know there fast. I"m talking about cars that look shitty but are fast as fuck with a little internal work. Omni's are sleepers, an honda mini van with nos is a sleeper (my friend hooked pu prelude got his ass handed to him by a Odyessy that sprayed him). The sleepers I'm talking about are cars that are not meant to be fast, but people make them that way. 1. Civics aren't sleepers because they aren't fast. 2. So you're saying that you can't have a sleeper from the factory? The Omni GLH came like that from the factory, all the turbo Dodges did. On another note, I don't see you guys can call The Eclpise/Laser/Talon and the 3000GT/Stealth sleepers. Do you even know the defenition? A sleeper is something that you don't expect to be fast. When you see those cars you do expect them to be. Hell, I know people that think the new Elcipse is fast. DkShadow 10-29-2003, 09:07 PM :sly: Civics.... faaaa-st??? :eek7: :rofl: mynismo 10-29-2003, 09:28 PM :sly: Civics.... faaaa-st??? :eek7: :rofl: fastest one i've seen was one that ran a 13.3 at the track. he had his helmet on so he was hoping to get into the 12's... that didnt happen :p OoNismoO 10-29-2003, 10:56 PM fastest civic ive seen at a track was an 11 sec crx, it had a turbocharged integra motor in it, and it was street legal. i ve also heard about, but never saw at a track, an all motor 11 sec crx with a b18c in it, the guy took everything out to reduce weight, and replace a lot of parts with lighter ones. this was also street legal. Jimster 10-30-2003, 02:54 AM fastest civic ive seen at a track was an 11 sec crx, it had a turbocharged integra motor in it, and it was street legal. i ve also heard about, but never saw at a track, an all motor 11 sec crx with a b18c in it, the guy took everything out to reduce weight, and replace a lot of parts with lighter ones. this was also street legal. Civic SiR's, B18c Integras and H22a Preludes are very unassuming- especially in thier JDM trims The Peugeot 306 GTi-6 looks like something Granny would be drive- but beware- don't let it catch you off guard The MINI Cooper S, Renault Clio RS (Esp. with a Tuned ECU, Intake and exhaust- honoured by the factory warranty) and the Peugeot 206 RC180 all look like little City cars- but can go to 100 km/h in less than 7 seconds. How about a Holden Commodore SS (a VY one) with Executive bumpers, headlights and badges- and chuck on Hubcaps- or would the V8 rumble give it away?? Nissan Laurels powered by RB25's and A#1 Cefiros in a decent state of tune are also vey sleeper like- especially if you make them look like diesels :lol: The Lancer GSR looks like any other Lancer- but is shockingly fast- basically a detuned Evo........ The Alfa ROmeo 156 GTA is scorchingly quick but looks like just another Q car- as does the Subaru Legacy GT (latest model that was in EVO a few months ago) And we can't forget the Audi S4 and Mercedes-Benz AMG Cars.......... Steel 10-30-2003, 09:59 AM And we can't forget the Audi S4 and Mercedes-Benz AMG Cars.......... Hmm... I wouldn't call those last two "sleepers" per se... especially the E55 AMG for example; definitely not a sleeper. :) fatninja19 10-30-2003, 01:49 PM fastest civic ive seen at a track was an 11 sec crx, it had a turbocharged integra motor in it, and it was street legal. i ve also heard about, but never saw at a track, an all motor 11 sec crx with a b18c in it, the guy took everything out to reduce weight, and replace a lot of parts with lighter ones. this was also street legal. too bad that CRX isn't street legal here in CA... Is it ok for other states to swap in dohc motors in cars who came with sohc motors from the factory? mynismo 10-30-2003, 04:05 PM as long as the engine going in is from a car that is newer than the car it's going in, and it was made in the states, you can put whatever engine you want in any car. that's whats so great about the dodge colt / mitsu mirage swap, swapping in a '98 eclipse gst engine in it is 100% legal and will pass emissions. you gotta love that swap. http://www.turbomirage.com - more info go check out the video clips. awesome little cars. wanna watch these guys laugh like lil girls after they beat a skyline? http://www.kentallman.com/lilevo/lilevo_skyline.wmv fatninja19 10-30-2003, 04:28 PM Back in my phase of desiring a b16/b18 powered CRX, I was told that it'd be about 150 bucks to smog the car... tha_new_guy 10-30-2003, 11:04 PM Hmm... I wouldn't call those last two "sleepers" per se... especially the E55 AMG for example; definitely not a sleeper. :) I don't know about that, man. Take an E55 AMG, strip off the badges, slap on some stock E-series wheels, and you got a fairly large silver 4-door sedan capable of beatin Porche Boxters. Sounds sleeper-like to me. Twyzz 11-04-2003, 06:49 PM Geez people, get off honda's ass! You see quick CRX's all the time. this is a topic about sleepers, not commonly known cars that can be fast. I'm talking about cars they don't sell body kits for and no one knows there fast. OoNismoO 11-04-2003, 06:56 PM Geez people, get off honda's ass! You see quick CRX's all the time. this is a topic about sleepers, not commonly known cars that can be fast. I'm talking about cars they don't sell body kits for and no one knows there fast. hell yea!! Polygon 11-04-2003, 07:14 PM Geez people, get off honda's ass! You see quick CRX's all the time. this is a topic about sleepers, not commonly known cars that can be fast. I'm talking about cars they don't sell body kits for and no one knows there fast. The point was that a CRX isn't fast stock. I'll not argue that with a swap and some work they can be made into a sleeper. skilligan 01-03-2004, 10:19 PM hi all, I was just wondering if anybody knows if you can throw a 2.5Lturbo into a dodge onmi, if any one has expieriance, please let me know.... yeah a NORMAL dodge omni, not a glh.. thanks . MustangRoadRacer 01-04-2004, 09:33 AM you can probably fit a chevy 350 in a dodge omni.I don't see why not. topgear00 01-04-2004, 11:09 AM I remember hearing about a turbocharged Vitz/Yaris that ran like 13 or 14...I personally wouldn't see that one coming. Cbass 01-04-2004, 11:57 AM An early 90s stock Civic hatch back with a 3 foot wing on the back and APC stickers. Why would this be considered a sleeper? People would be too busy laughing to race, and nobody would expect it to be fast ;) Anyone mention a AE86 4A-GZE yet? Or a Thunderbird SC? Or the alltime best sleeper. A late 70s V8 Vega. SpaceManSpiff 01-04-2004, 01:54 PM If you have the money, how about an IS300 with a 2jz-gte in it? And no one's mentioned the fastiva yet... festiva with a b6t in it. Hondas make decent sleepers because while most people know they can go fast, most people don't expect a civic with a body kit and wing to be running low 13s or faster. How about an h22 accord? Turbo shadows? How about a dodge spirit r/t? Bunta 01-04-2004, 02:23 PM Sleepers can mean different things I guess. It might be a fast piece of shit, or a car nobody recognizes as fast. Since everybody I want to race thinks that their car is the fastest thing on the road, I vote my 1972 BMW Bavaria to be the best sleeper from my experience. It weighs 3000lbs, has four wheel disc brakes (that are the best I or the previous owner have felt on a stock car), dual downdraft carbed 3.0 liter that makes about 190hp and more torque. This thing is great on the freeway and no slouch in the cornering department. It's not tricky or anything, really stable, good road manners. Plus it is beige with the stock chrome hubcaps (BBS coming). Since BMW used the same basic motor from '69-'94, I could easily drop in a 3.5 (with triple side drafts, or FI) and get around 250HP with a five speed. Did I mention it's beige? My 2002 is rusty and poop brown (paint soon) but it rocks. Of course, this car wasn't bad either (drove it from Tacoma WA to Shelton) http://www.hctc.com/~pmauto/boss02motor.jpg Yes, that is an S14 M3 motor in a 2002. Cbass 01-04-2004, 05:47 PM That's your 2002? :sunglasse Nice to see another German car nut on this board, can't let people forget who makes the best cars :iceslolan boosted331 01-04-2004, 06:29 PM Go find a picture of lee howies LX, he drove it on the street a lot, looked like a mustang hatchback with a 1.5" cowl, and a 28x10.5 E/T street, not horribly uncommon on a typical 10 or 11 second street mustang, but it went low 8's @ 170+. 01venom_ 01-04-2004, 07:22 PM thats hardly sleeper speed is it? Volvo S70 T5 runs 14.5 i bet the new S60 R does 13 something or less. (it has 300hp) The new s60 r runs a 14.0 in the 1/4 because of its high safety ratings and all that extra weighted shit on the car. The Ford Fairmont has to be the best sleeper ever. It looks like a heavy beast but really weighs somewhere around 2900 I think, correct if wrong, but a very good sleeper. Cbass 01-04-2004, 08:36 PM Yeah, the Fairmont is a classic sleeper. I saw a nice buildup on one using a 392ci stroker, made around 450hp. beast2.0 01-19-2004, 09:30 PM What about a mk1 mk2 gti with a turbo vr6? A little old vedub with over 300 hp. Or the 60-70s beetles with some money thoes will pull the front wheels off the ground and run 10s. Who has seen a 10 sec beetle? Just check the mag hot vws or something like that. There are tons of 10 sec beetles out there. I am not sure if they are street legal though. It still would be fun to smoke a nice new vett in a rusty beetle. I can't believe anyone has talked about these yet. Chavez408 01-19-2004, 11:18 PM maybe a geo metro? 89Turbo944 01-20-2004, 02:57 AM A turbo Geo is pretty quick, also V6 pinto, Ford Coswerth, 190E 16valve AMG tuned, Galant Polygon 01-20-2004, 12:21 PM hi all, I was just wondering if anybody knows if you can throw a 2.5Lturbo into a dodge onmi, if any one has expieriance, please let me know.... yeah a NORMAL dodge omni, not a glh.. thanks. Of course you can. You fit can a 2.2L TBI, 2.5L TBI, 2.2L T1, 2.5L T1, 2.2L TII, 2.2L TIV, or a 2.2L TIII into ANY Omni. The mounts are all the same. If you're going to do a swap make sure you get an A-520, A-555, or A-568 transmission to bolt onto the engine along with ALL the underhood wires and computer. If you need any help just ask. you can probably fit a chevy 350 in a dodge omni.I don't see why not. That would just be a bad idea. 1969Stang 01-20-2004, 04:22 PM buick century with the l67 3.8 liter supercharged engine swap. build the motor 500 hp in a car that could be less then 2700 pounds. 1989 weights under 3000...so there its done...sleeper 4 door...not as good as the mini van though 1969Stang 01-20-2004, 04:29 PM or a pinto with the thunderbird turbo coupe engine. PunkAlex 01-20-2004, 05:04 PM or a pinto with the thunderbird turbo coupe engine. that was in SCC! heh runnin 13s on street tires king4you 01-20-2004, 09:25 PM Best sleeper has to be my 91 Nissan Stanza Xe with a Pulsar Gti-R SR20DET swap. Pushing 250 at the wheels right now. E/T 13.5 carrrnuttt 01-20-2004, 10:16 PM Best sleeper has to be my 91 Nissan Stanza Xe with a Pulsar Gti-R SR20DET swap. Pushing 250 at the wheels right now. E/T 13.5 Nice! Another Nissan sleeper on AF... Pics? ac427cpe 01-20-2004, 10:58 PM oooooooo that'd probably give my 3sgte powered mk1 mr2 a run for it's money :D we need to do an AF meet/race sometime... king4you 01-22-2004, 12:07 PM I'll meet up alright, if your in Sacramento, CA. http://www.teamnse.com/forum/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=70070286 1;start=30 carrrnuttt 01-22-2004, 12:36 PM I'll meet up alright, if your in Sacramento, CA. http://www.teamnse.com/forum/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=70070286 1;start=30 Got this from your link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2454089596&category=6401 THAT's my goal this coming year for my SE-R :D. J_Swigz 01-22-2004, 01:16 PM Got this from your link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2454089596&category=6401 THAT's my goal this coming year for my SE-R :D. I want that car, that's a pimp little ride. Turboaddict 01-25-2004, 02:13 PM 90 grand prix 4 door STE Turbo I paid 1000 for the car and have around 500 in mods and I'm in the mid-upper 14's add another thousand to that and I'll be in the 13's stock specs 3.1L v6 205hp 220tq with a little t25= full boost by 2000rpm marcus Chavez408 01-25-2004, 02:34 PM maybe a wheel chair with a enzo engine in it and rollin on dubz with a 150 shot of NAAAWZ and with a chrome beer holder and a bumper sticker that says "i live my life a 1/4 mile a day", oh oh and dont forget the green lime body color...think bout it wink wink wingsofwar 01-25-2004, 02:35 PM 72 Nissan 240z with RB26DETT with RB30 head. or Liquid Shwarts Powered Winibego with nice Giant wing...literally :lol: :rofl: :evillol: :lol2: hybridsol 01-25-2004, 05:39 PM a primered 89 CRX. :biggrin: bad360rt 01-25-2004, 06:26 PM See avatar and sig :biggrin: Altho, the exhaust and blower whine make it hard to really be a sleeper LOL But people still don't expect it from a truck, I love that. Chavez408 01-25-2004, 07:54 PM thats a nice truck bad360rt :thumbsup: bad360rt 01-25-2004, 08:14 PM Thanks Chavez. Awesome avatar :iceslolan pod 01-25-2004, 10:37 PM for stock a probe gt 5 spd v6 for modded a subaru wrx with a twin turbo h6 -The Stig- 01-26-2004, 01:12 AM for stock a probe gt 5 spd v6 for modded a subaru wrx with a twin turbo h6 WRX has a Horizontally opossed 4-cylinder... Where are you getting the H-6 motor from? Does anybody make a twin turbo setup for a WRX? I'd prefer a single large turbo since it's already plumbed into the system. 89Turbo944 01-26-2004, 01:15 AM That is very strange. 4 and 6 are to far apart to accidentially hit one meaning the other. So its a H-6 TT. Intresting, never heard of it before. You got pics of it? Id love to see them. Neutrino 01-26-2004, 04:25 AM for stock a probe gt 5 spd v6 for modded a subaru wrx with a twin turbo h6 by H6 i presume you mean boxter engine but i don't recall any subaru 6 cyl boxters only 4 cyl the only 6 cyl boxters i know of are in porsche -The Stig- 01-27-2004, 12:31 AM by H6 i presume you mean boxter engine but i don't recall any subaru 6 cyl boxters only 4 cyl the only 6 cyl boxters i know of are in porsche Actually, suprisingly enough the Outback has a 3.0L H6 engine. 212hp @ 6000rpm 210tq @ 4400rpm I was informed by a long time friend... after calling me lots of bad names. :mad: Stupid HybridSol... :grinno: Neutrino 01-27-2004, 12:51 AM Actually, suprisingly enough the Outback has a 3.0L H6 engine. 212hp @ 6000rpm 210tq @ 4400rpm I was informed by a long time friend... after calling me lots of bad names. :mad: Stupid HybridSol... :grinno: cool did not know that :) broddie50 01-28-2004, 02:58 AM how bout a datsun b210 with one of those r2d2 c3po engines wit naaaawz! just count the frickin sheep... magik_medicine 01-29-2004, 07:12 AM Old Caravans, Dodge Shadows, Omnis, Old Probes, AE86, Regal T-Type. any others? best mod sleeper- 1992 Camaro iroc with a 554 RWHP 88 vette engine best stock sleeper- Cadilac seville STS, any year with a northstar will work, even wih their cosiderably bulky asses and 32 cow interior and a slushbox will pull 14.5s completely stock magicweed 02-02-2004, 02:02 PM i think the toyota cressida would be a hell of a sleeper pump up the 7mgte it has to about 400hp and youd have one hell of a fast sedan plus it looks like something my grandfather would drive vBulletin®, Copyright ©2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
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