Mclaren F1 Registry


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diabloroadster2
07-29-2004, 10:49 PM
just talked to the guy again in my class, he said they are old racing ones. he apparenetly has a large collection of vintage cars and bikes

Huggybear010
08-07-2004, 06:57 AM
Yes Gordan Murray owns one (its silver)
The Sultan doesnt own 8
As in previous posts the Princes are 'more' into to cars then him and he gave one of his LM's to his daughter for her 21st birthday.
Also the Genisis manager has one.
Obviously Rons LM (XP1) XP5 is owned by Mclaren, as is the longtail roadcar prototype, as is the Uno clinic Le mans winner (infact Mclaren own one of each car made, ie road car, gt, GTR, LM etc

cabrio92
08-07-2004, 07:19 AM
Hello,

The Sultan doesnt own 8
As in previous posts the Princes are 'more' into to cars then him and he gave one of his LM's to his daughter for her 21st birthday.


Humm, it is very interesting, how do you know that ?
Can you have pics of these LMs please ?

Ciao
Phil

Huggybear010
08-07-2004, 07:23 AM
I have absolutly no pics, and no way of getting them, im just very well informed

mini magic
08-07-2004, 12:00 PM
Hello,

Can you have pics of these LMs please ?

Ciao
Phil

Every time this subject has come up, you have asked that. I don't think we will see any for a long time

jcsaleen
08-07-2004, 12:06 PM
What about dealerships who have them??

Huggybear010
08-07-2004, 12:14 PM
Dealerships? there shouldnt be any F1's sat in delerships, there was the park lane one, but that has been swapped for another. And that will be gone soonish anyway.

jcsaleen
08-07-2004, 12:16 PM
I saw 1 in dupont or 2 I think black and silver for sale they were @ a dealership on the sun rise strip aka florida.

Huggybear010
08-07-2004, 12:49 PM
Damn, do you know what they were asking?

jcsaleen
08-07-2004, 12:51 PM
Damn, do you know what they were asking?

Nah but you want to c amazing supercars Go there,theres at least 20 different exoitic car dealerships.

jcsaleen
08-07-2004, 12:55 PM
Yeah I would take Elton John off the list as well. None of that has ever proven to be true.

>8^)
ER

When I went to cali Last week I saw elton johns house when I saw the house I jus stared in aw I would believe it cali has perfect conditions for the f1 2. The other person who im not gonna say he has 1 but I would most definetly believe he has if speculation occured is nicholas Cage. He is a big car collector. Tim allen owns an S7 hehe.

Huggybear010
08-07-2004, 12:57 PM
Im planning a trip in January, so maybe I will.
Thanks

jcsaleen
08-07-2004, 01:07 PM
No prob

Btw it says top secret on ur occupation do u work for the company top secret ?? If so thats sweet. If you have no Idea its ok alot of people dont know about that car company. heres some of there cars ~
http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:JabZUWMrTPMJ:roubal.ic.cz/images/Topsecret/03.JPG (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://roubal.ic.cz/images/Topsecret/03.JPG&imgrefurl=http://roubal.ic.cz/top.htm&h=336&w=495&sz=30&tbnid=JabZUWMrTPMJ:&tbnh=86&tbnw=126&start=7&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtop%2Bsecret%2Bsupra%26hl%3Den%26lr%3 D%26ie%3DUTF-8)http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:1fe_DWJoAggJ:www.sportcompact.ca/coverage/img/tas/106_0645.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.sportcompact.ca/coverage/img/tas/106_0645.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php%3Fs%3D%26goto%3Dlastpost%26threadid %3D39997&h=332&w=500&sz=39&tbnid=1fe_DWJoAggJ:&tbnh=84&tbnw=126&start=1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtop%2Bsecret%2B350z%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D %26ie%3DUTF-8)[img]

Huggybear010
08-07-2004, 01:23 PM
Ha ha, I f**king wish!
No its just if my 'employers' knew I wasnt talking about stuff like this then id be fired. (had to sign loads of documents before they employed me saying I wouldnt do this)
And yeah I know Who top secret are, I feel they are most famous for the 'gold' supra.

But they went to the salt flats witht a car (I think in 2000) and creamed all the Yanks arses in this highly tuned (1000bhp+) 6cylinder turbo supra. The americans wouldnt belive it was only a 6cylinder. (they were all like but my v10 doesnt go like that blah blah)

jcsaleen
08-07-2004, 01:26 PM
Ha ha, I f**king wish!
No its just if my 'employers' knew I wasnt talking about stuff like this then id be fired. (had to sign loads of documents before they employed me saying I wouldnt do this)
And yeah I know Who top secret are, I feel they are most famous for the 'gold' supra.

But they went to the salt flats witht a car (I think in 2000) and creamed all the Yanks arses in this highly tuned (1000bhp+) 6cylinder turbo supra. The americans wouldnt belive it was only a 6cylinder. (they were all like but my v10 doesnt go like that blah blah)

lol yea figures but we all know who is the king of supras though actaull of them. JUN & veilside I cant figure out which 1.

Huggybear010
08-07-2004, 01:30 PM
I though veilside where just styling and got 'other' companies to do the engines?
But JUN are amazing, some the advanments they have made and there way off thinking is truly brilliant

Huggybear010
08-07-2004, 01:32 PM
Also back to the registry, there is one F1 that had to be crushed

jcsaleen
08-07-2004, 01:34 PM
Also back to the registry, there is one F1 that had to be crushed

why did it have to be crushed I seriously doubt that it would be exported or sold be for it got crushed.

Huggybear010
08-07-2004, 01:38 PM
No it was in America, the 'owner' had tax issues so the car was taken and crushed as part of that by a company called Universal salvage

jcsaleen
08-07-2004, 01:41 PM
No it was in America, the 'owner' had tax issues so the car was taken and crushed as part of that by a company called Universal salvage

DamN!! That sux. I have a sweet pic of the jun and all the other supras together il pm it.

amanichen
08-07-2004, 02:05 PM
No it was in America, the 'owner' had tax issues so the car was taken and crushed as part of that by a company called Universal salvageNow you're going a bit too far with this. Cars that are taken away in cases like this (i.e. repossession) aren't crushed...they're auctioned off to try to recoup some of the money.

What's there to salvage from a CARBON FIBER chassis and body anyway?

EDIT: the only "Universal Salvage" I can find is in England anyway, not America.
http://www.salvage-auctions.co.uk/

Peloton25
08-08-2004, 03:28 PM
Also back to the registry, there is one F1 that had to be crushed

If you are talking about #069 which was hear in the USA illegally, that car was never crushed. :grinno:

>8^)
ER

Huggybear010
08-08-2004, 03:32 PM
No if I was, I would ahev said there was once a car in the USA illegally that was never crushed. (Probably would have been pointless posting it though)

Im trying to get the info now about it.

mini magic
08-08-2004, 08:41 PM
I heard a few months ago its still sitting in customs

jcsaleen
08-09-2004, 12:19 AM
Gives me Ideas :iceslolan:grinno::iceslolan...

My cousin works in customs.

DiabloGT
08-09-2004, 08:59 PM
I heard a few months ago its still sitting in customs
man i knew they had an enzo and diablo, but also a mclaren!? wow!

acrid850
08-10-2004, 10:30 AM
I just found this gem in Los Gatos,CA this weekend. I'll be honest, I love McLarens but I'm not a fanatic so I don't know much about this one. I asked the guy at the shop about where he got it and he said it was formerly owned and raced by Mario Andretti (check the sig on the sun visor).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/acrid850/Red%20McF1/b5c0e0ce.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/v336/acrid850/Red%20McF1/

teflon
08-10-2004, 11:04 AM
That is Cliff Meltzer's car.

The signature isn't legible.

Where would Mario Andretti have raced a *stock* McLaren F1? And if I'm Mario Andretti, why would I sign my own car?

Greg A

jcsaleen
08-10-2004, 11:09 AM
Thats Andtretti's sig alright!! He always does that with the 2 loops for the T's. Thanks for the pics!! Good job :thumbsup:

acrid850
08-10-2004, 11:52 AM
He'd sign it if he didn't own the car any more....which I believe is the case here. The racing part I don't know, thats what the mechanic there told me, and It's all I have to go off of.

There were quite a few nice cars there. It's a body shop, but the only car the looked like they were working on was a Z8. Otherwise there was a Gallardo, a Vanquish, an F50, an F40, and a couple other Ferraries (how do you pluralize Ferrari anyway?). The guy that tipped me on the shop said there was an Enzo, but I didn't see it. There is a chance its there, but I don't know the shape of an Enzo under a cover and was far too awestruck finding a McLaren.

Peloton25
08-10-2004, 12:12 PM
Very interesting info - I wouldn't think Andretti would want to own a McLaren after he had such unkind words for the car when he reviewed it in Road&Track. I'm now very curious to hear the entire history of this car. I'm hesitant to believe that Andretti owned it, but there is some credible evidence there. Prior to that car coming to the USA it was located in Japan. I wonder how long Mario owned the car...?

Anyway, thanks for the info and the pictures. Congrats on getting to see the car! :bigthumb:

>8^)
ER

jcsaleen
08-10-2004, 02:07 PM
Thats messed up I didnt even kno about that I did a 10 page full print bio/essay on him this year. :wtf: GOOD FIND THOUGH!!

BTW ~ is that a gallardo in the back?

Peloton25
08-10-2004, 03:02 PM
BTW ~ is that a gallardo in the back?

Do we need to get mini magic to teach you how to edit posts? :screwy: :grinno: :loser:

>8^)
ER

acrid850
08-10-2004, 04:20 PM
Yep...that’s the Gallardo in the back. Its funny, I just got a Digital Camera and I thought I'd go test it on some nice cars. So I go to Silicon Valley Auto Group and find that have an F40 and just got the Elise in. So nice. I wander the lot a little and joke with a salesman about buying a Gallardo (I'm 19 so he could tell I can't actually afford it). I ask him a few questions about the F40 and start talking about Ferrari super cars and he mentions to me a shop where someone keeps their collection. He mentioned an F50 and an Enzo, but as soon as he said McLaren, I knew I had to find it. He gave me some rough directions and before I new it, I was in a small shop (you see about half of it in that pic) with a couple million dollars worth of cars in it. What a great way to test out a new camera (BTW, the image quality is poor due to free image hosting, not the camera).

So in one day in a 5 mile radius I found two F40s, an F50, a McLaren F1, two Gallardos, a Murciélago, two Elises, and handfull of unlimited production Ferraries and Aston Martins.

This weekend, well it's Monterey Auto Weekend. Historic races, Concorso Italiano, and Pebble Beach Concours. I can't wait! :D

cabrio92
08-10-2004, 05:08 PM
Hello,

thanks a lot acrid850 to share these pics with us.
This red one is beautiful !

The next time, can you look at the chassis numer near the gearstick please ?

Ciao
Phil

mini magic
08-10-2004, 06:22 PM
dude, we know the chassis #

MalkaJB
08-10-2004, 10:27 PM
Wow, you are so lucky. I went there once, but it was closed. All I got was a picture of the outside. :disappoin

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/151977Meltzer_s.jpg

When you went, was the garage already open, or did you have to knock?

Neil_H
08-11-2004, 06:44 AM
Here's the complete list of F1 chassis, info from www.qv500.com .


F1 Prototype Chassis Index


XP1 Unpainted, destroyed while testing in Namibia
XP2 Unpainted, the MIRA crash test car
XP3 Silver, McLaren promotional car
XP4 Bright Electric Blue, McLaren promotional car
XP5 Dark Metallic Green, McLaren promotion car, the 240mph record car


F1 Chassis Index


001 1994, 3rd car built, Magnesium Silver
002 1993, 1st car built, Dorchester Grey
003 1994, 2nd car built, Carbon
004 1994, 4th car built, Grand Prix Red
005 1994, 5th car built, Jet Black
006 1994, 6th car built, Magnesium Silver
007 1994, 7th car built, Jet Black
008 1994, 9th car built, Cobalt Blue
009 1994, 8th car built, Magnesium Silver
010 1994, 10th car built, Magnesium Silver
011 1994, 11th car built, Carbon
012 1994, 12th car built, Dark Silver
013 1994, 13th car built, Magnesium Silver
014 1994, 14th car built, Titanium Yellow
015 1994, 15th car built, Jet Black
016 1994, 19th car built, Aubergine
017 1994, 16th car built, Calypso Red Pearl
018 1994, 17th car built, Midnight Blue Pearl
020 1994, 18th car built, Mid Blue Pearl
021 1994, 20th car built, Blood Red Solid
022 1994, 21st car built, Genesis Dark Blue
023 1994, 23rd car built, British Racing Green
024 1994, 22nd car built, Carbon
025 1994, 24th car built, Dark Purple Pearl
028 1995, 29th car built, Grand Prix Red
029 1994, 25th car built, Brazilian Brown Metallic
031 1995, 27th car built, Special White
033 1995, 26th car built, Base Silver
036 1995, 30th car built, Pale Blue Metallic
037 1995, 28th car built, Special Silver
038 1995, 31st car built, Base Silver
039 1995, 32nd car built, Creighton Brown
040 1995, 34th car built, Magnesium Silver
042 1995, 33rd car built, Base Silver
043 1995, 36th car built, Black Metallic
044 1995, 37th car built, Base Silver
045 1995, 38th car built, Dark Silver
046 1995, 39th car built, Genesis Blue Metallic
047 1996, 41st car built, Magnesium Silver
048 1996, 44th car built, Brilliant Metallic Blue
049 1996, 43rd car built, Mercedes Brilliant Silver
050 1995, 40th car built, Magnesium Silver
051 1996, 42nd car built, Dark Metallic Green
052 1996, 45th car built, Dark Blue Mica
053 1995, 35th car built, White
055 1996, 46th car built, Magnesium Silver
057 1997, 48th car built, Magnesium Silver
059 1998, 59th car built, Magnesium Silver
060 1996, 47th car built, Yellow
061 1997, 49th car built, Dark Burgundy
062 1997, 53rd car built, Magnesium Silver
063 1997, 51st car built, Magnesium Silver
064 1997, 50th car built, Magnesium Silver
065 1997, 52nd car built, Magnesium Silver
066 1997, 54th car built, Magnesium Silver
067 1997, 58th car built, Magnesium Silver
068 1997, 57th car built, Mercedes Brilliant Silver
069 1998, 60th car built, Mercedes Brilliant Silver
070 1997, 55th car built, Mercedes Brilliant Silver
071 1998, 61st car built, Historic Orange
072 1998, 62nd car built, Jet Black
073 1998, 63rd car built, AMG Green Velvet
074 1997, 56th car built, Magnesium Silver
075 1998, 64th and final F1 road car ever made, Yquem


GTR ’95 Chassis Index


Nine F1 GTR ’95's were constructed by McLaren during the first half of 1995. Their chassis numbers and histories are listed below:

01R McLaren, 1995 Le Mans 24 Hours: 1st (Lehto/ Dalmas/Sekiya).
02R GTC/Gulf Racing,
03R 04R GTC/Gulf Racing
05R BBA Competition
06R Mach One/Harrods
07R Giroix/Jacadi GRT
08R GTC/Gulf Racing
09R 'Ueno' Grey, very little known, believed never to have raced.

GTR ’96 Chassis Index

Nine 1996 spec F1 GTR were constructed between late 1995 and spring ’96.

010R Blood Red, McLaren's testing and development GTR. Rebuilt for Pink Floyd drummer, Nick Mason. UK road registered K40 MCL. Featured in Evo 47.
011R Giroix Racing Team/Franck Muller Technowatch
012R GTC/Gulf Racing
013R Team Lark McLaren
014R Team Lark McLaren
015R GTC/Gulf Racing
016R Team Bigazzi
017R Team Bigazzi
018R Team Bigazzi

GTR ’97 ‘Long Tail’ Chassis Index

Ten final specification, 1997 GTR were constructed by McLaren.

19R McLaren test and development car
20R Gulf Team Davidoff
21R BMW Motorsport
22R Gulf Team Davidoff.
23R BMW Motorsport
24R BMW Motorsport
25R Gulf Team Davidoff
26R BMW Motorsport
27R Parabolica
28R Davidoff/Gulf

jcsaleen
08-11-2004, 12:19 PM
Still dosent say where all the f1 road cars are thats what were lookin for but thanks alot Good JOB :thumbsup:

TRD2000
08-11-2004, 02:55 PM
ditto.
also, what happened to chassis 19, 34, 35 etc? if they aren't used where do i pick them up?
i think you may be mistaken with xp2 and xp4, as i have photos of a bright blue mclaren with the crash dummy symbols hitting a wall...

Mr. Bernoulli
08-11-2004, 04:06 PM
The bodywork of crash cars tends not to be painted cause it's a complete waste of money.

XP2 appears light blue because, like most other crash prototypes, it was painted this colour (with a brush) to help the engineers work out what has happened during the crash (along with the yellow and black circles).

019, 026 & 027 were replaced by 01R, 02R & 03R. Those numbers along with 030, 032, 034, 035 & 041 were never allocated to any chassis, apparently.

DiabloGT
08-12-2004, 12:37 AM
I am trying to find out who owns all the Mclaren F1s.
Here's what I have sofar.

Sultan of brunai.........8 Mclaren F1s(thats not a typo)
Ralph Laren...............2 Mclaren F1s
Jay Leno..................1 Mclaren F1
Wycliff Jean..............1 Mclaren F1
liam Howlett..............1 Mclaren F1
Elton John.................1 Mclaren F1
Dan Kennedy.............1 Mclaren F1

Does anyone know anymore
did you forget bill gates and mr.bean?

Peloton25
08-12-2004, 12:40 AM
He may have forgotten Rowan Atkinson (aka: Mr. Bean), but Bill Gates has never been confirmed as an owner of any McLaren F1s.

Surely he could afford them all, but to my knowledge he has never owned a single one. If someone has credible info that differs from that, please share it.

>8^)
ER

DiabloGT
08-12-2004, 12:43 AM
He may have forgotten Rowan Atkinson (aka: Mr. Bean), but Bill Gates has never been confirmed as an owner of any McLaren F1s.

Surely he could afford them all, but to my knowledge he has never owned a single one. If someone has credible info that differs from that, please share it.

>8^)
ER
then how come i remember reading an article that he has paid the government to make the mclaren legal in all states cause he was in the state that the mclaren wasnt legal or some crap like that i read it like 1 or 2 years ago...

diabloroadster2
08-12-2004, 01:05 AM
He'd sign it if he didn't own the car any more....which I believe is the case here. The racing part I don't know, thats what the mechanic there told me, and It's all I have to go off of.

There were quite a few nice cars there. It's a body shop, but the only car the looked like they were working on was a Z8. Otherwise there was a Gallardo, a Vanquish, an F50, an F40, and a couple other Ferraries (how do you pluralize Ferrari anyway?). The guy that tipped me on the shop said there was an Enzo, but I didn't see it. There is a chance its there, but I don't know the shape of an Enzo under a cover and was far too awestruck finding a McLaren.


your lucky you got pics. ive been there more then a few times but was never allowed to take pics

he does have an enzo, its yellow.

two 355s
288gto
db7
murci
arnage t
sl
turbo

are some of this others

Peloton25
08-12-2004, 03:14 AM
then how come i remember reading an article that he has paid the government to make the mclaren legal in all states cause he was in the state that the mclaren wasnt legal or some crap like that i read it like 1 or 2 years ago...

The DOT guideline/law that allows for McLarens to be imported to the USA is called "Show&Display", but it allows for a lot more cars than just the F1 to make it onto our shores. The law is often referred to as "Bill Gates' Law" as he was one of the prime contributers to the lobbying that got it enacted. At the time, Bill owned a Porsche 959 which faced similar legal problems in the way of DOT and EPA regulatations that the F1 did. Bill had tried unsuccessfully for years (apparently) to import his beloved 959 and was not able to until Show&Display became law in late 1999.

Again, to my knowledge the man has never owned a McLaren F1, and its going to take some very credible evidence to get me to believe otherwise. Every mention of it I have seen has never been backed up with any proof what so ever.

>8^)
ER

jcsaleen
08-12-2004, 08:53 AM
Its called a show car liscence and it allow for show but the car is only valid for 1 year and then it must be renewd. The car is only allowed to gain 2000 miles ova the term of its stay here. Theres no pay off however a show car liscence is about 900$ here small price to pay when you have a 1.2 million dollar car in your driveway.

acrid850
08-12-2004, 10:29 AM
your lucky you got pics. ive been there more then a few times but was never allowed to take pics


The guys there were extremely friendly. They seemed to be surprised that I asked to come in and asked to take pictures, and they were more than happy to answer any questions.

Peloton25
08-12-2004, 11:30 AM
Its called a show car liscence and it allow for show but the car is only valid for 1 year and then it must be renewd. The car is only allowed to gain 2000 miles ova the term of its stay here. Theres no pay off however a show car liscence is about 900$ here small price to pay when you have a 1.2 million dollar car in your driveway.

Where did you get this information - because none of it has anything to do with the DOTs "Show&Display" provisions... :uhoh: :confused: :screwy:

>8^)
ER

diabloroadster2
08-12-2004, 01:12 PM
The guys there where extremely friendly. They seemed to be surprised that I asked to come in and asked to take pictures, and they were more than happy to answer any questions.

hmmm, ill have to try it again.

i first found it after reading this board. they said that they were cutting off people coming into the garage because information was floating around about it on the net (which i assume was this board)

jcsaleen
08-12-2004, 01:34 PM
Theres no such thing as show and display only It has to be registered under a liscence wether that be a kit car regular or show car or exoitic coverage. How do I know this imformation its because I have read almost every epa/custom/dot requirment theres is to know especially on imports or any other foreign car (ex mclaren)

acrid850
08-12-2004, 02:34 PM
hmmm, ill have to try it again.

i first found it after reading this board. they said that they were cutting off people coming into the garage because information was floating around about it on the net (which i assume was this board)

That’s exactly why I haven't named the shop. They were too nice and I wouldn't want just any idiot with complete disregard for personal property wondering into the shop and harassing them. I'm very respectful when I'm around high end cars, and people can pick up on that.

jcsaleen
08-12-2004, 02:38 PM
They were too nice and I wouldn't want just any idiot with complete disregard for personal property

:thumbsup:

Peloton25
08-12-2004, 04:18 PM
Theres no such thing as show and display only It has to be registered under a liscence wether that be a kit car regular or show car or exoitic coverage. How do I know this imformation its because I have read almost every epa/custom/dot requirment theres is to know especially on imports or any other foreign car (ex mclaren)

Oh you must be right then.... :grinno:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ShowDisplay/howtosd072003.html (http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ShowDisplay/howtosd072003.html)

You must have missed that one.... :loser:

>8^)
ER

jcsaleen
08-12-2004, 04:32 PM
Im sorry they renamed it since o1 and added 500 miles to the limit im still right. My question is y did they rename it? It was called the show car rule but that was 01.

Peloton25
08-12-2004, 08:30 PM
It's been "Show & Display" for as long as I can recall - at least since it was enacted in 1999.

Here's some more info on it explaining the relation to Gates.

Thank You, Mr. Gates (http://www.ferraris-online.com/Articles/SCM_9912.html)

>8^)
ER

jcsaleen
08-12-2004, 08:43 PM
In JDM terms its know as show car liscence and its not just those cars it also applys to skylines,supras & any other Jdm vehichle. almost all cars @ sema that are imports/Jdm vehichles have a show car liscence.

Peloton25
08-12-2004, 08:50 PM
It seems you are referring to a short term importation exception that has nothing to do with the ability to keep a car like a McLaren here in the USA on a permanent basis.

I've never said what you are referring to doesn't exist - just that it has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

>8^)
ER

jcsaleen
08-13-2004, 01:11 AM
Do you know which mclaren was at sema 1-2 years ago? Just a hunch that was registerd under that.

Peloton25
08-13-2004, 02:27 AM
The only McLaren I have seen displayed at SEMA was Dan Kennedy's - it's been there the past two years actually. The first time it was strapped to a trailer behind the matching SMA Hummer H2. The following year it was on the floor next to it.

His car is here legally in the USA under the "Show & Display" guidelines we've been discussing and wouldn't have needed any special "show car license" to participate at SEMA. All it needs is a booth.

>8^)
ER

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