Has anybody had any luck putting a smallblock Chevy engine in a Nissan 300ZX keeping it stock appearing? I have access to both. I know it has been done to the 240sx.

Thanks, Bubblegum

Why would you do such a thing even if it is possible?? All your doing if you do that is adding weight.

and power :screwy:

If you want a chevy motor buy a chevy car for cryin out loud

im surprised that you havent gotten a better answer yet, cuz i know there is someone on these forums with a 350 in their 300z, cant remember his name though.

Does seem strange to drop in the chevy when the 300 has a potent motor already. To satisfy my curiosity, why are you considering it?

Does seem strange to drop in the chevy when the 300 has a potent motor already. To satisfy my curiosity, why are you considering it?
:iagree:.......

doesnt the stock engine not have near the torque of a small block?

leave domestic car engines in domestic cars and import car engines in import cars. besides this one dastusn z at super autobacs. it has a 530 (im not sure if that's the right number) chevy engine.

Hehe....I had to registry just to give a reply to some of the displacement haters out there. Yes the engine out of the 300ZX has a lot of potential but by the time you spend all the money on reasonable upgrades for it and upgrade the turbo and everything you could have had a 350 installed pushing 400 horses and more torque then any 300ZX street car ever had within the same pricerange. (Yes I know there are some 500-800 horsepower 300ZXs out there but those take about an extra 20 grand of parts to build...as apposed to dropping 5 grand on a V8 conversion) Yes you add weight...but the horsepower and torque gain more then makes up for it. There's my 2 cents. In fact I found this posting because I was researching on putting a 350 in a Z car for my next project.

For any of you want to know about about the swap go here
http://www.johnscars.com/zcar/zcar.htm

Oh and also....there is a car for sale on ebay right now a 1st Gen 300ZX with a 350 in it

Boy I know how space there isn't in that engine bay a V8 would be interesting to see.

But the whole point of getting a 300 is to have the V6 part of the ownership is having the V6, so why get a V8 just get a car that comes with the V8.

Because it is this idea that you have a unique car. If you are a lover of the Z styling. But desire to have better performance without turbocharging or upping the compression ratio to 40 million to 1 then here is the option to do it. And there is plenty of room in the Z cars for a V8 I have personaly seen one. And I've seen at least a half-dozen on the net. Just in the last 2 months there have been like 3 Z cars on ebay
with Chevy V8s I've even seen one with a 450 4 barrel in it.

Oh and also....there is a car for sale on ebay right now a 1st Gen 300ZX with a 350 in it
whats up... that's my car dude :naughty:

and its not a 350, its a 400. it has 400ft-lbs of tourque also, i highly doubt a stock 300 has that much power.

take a look at it
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2444028372

save yourself the $8k it costs to swap it and just buy mine.

doesnt the stock engine not have near the torque of a small block?
ahhh, yep.

a z32 twin turbo has 300hp and 283 ft-lbs, while my 660zx has 300hp and 400 ft-lbs of torque. 117 ft-lbs is quite some difference.........

i don't know the hp figures on a z31, but the power is no where near that of a small block.

and for all those saying it adds weight.... the 100hp and 200ft-lbs torque over stock (guestimating) well surpasses the weight difference.

Heres his cardomain website,
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/424034
Heres the ebay site,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewItem&item=2444028372&category=6398

This guy put a 400 small block, and to all you that say it's stupid, apparently you dont know anything about performance, a CSB400 has the potential of 4 times the max hp on a vg30et engine.

Heres the engine,
http://northeastnissans.com/300zxv8/lg_CIMG0128.jpg
Heres how stock it looks,
http://northeastnissans.com/300zxv8/lg_CIMG0121.jpg

Hope this helped,
Matt

i agree with funkdeal. domestics and imports arent supposed to mix. thats why there is domestic and import, cuz if everyone was mixing the two, there wouldnt be any difference and there wouldnt be a point to make two categories. and another thing, imports arent made to have torque, they are supposed to be smaller engines that move fast.

Has anybody had any luck putting a smallblock Chevy engine in a Nissan 300ZX keeping it stock appearing? I have access to both. I know it has been done to the 240sx.

Thanks, Bubblegum
Bravo for your idea of mixing an American all-out torque motor in a small foreign bodied car!!! The idea isn't new (Carrol Shelby did it with a 427 Ford in the English built aluminum bodied AC Cobra- and we all know what came from that!), Porshe 911's have been converted to small block Chevy's and so have the British Jaguars, so don't EVEN listen to these non-idealistic "store-bought " hot rod idiots. The 300ZX power plant is quite "perky" but if you want a car that will scare you then you go right on with that conversion. I did a 327 in a 240Z and was absolutely astounded at what a stock motor did for that car!




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Heres his cardomain website,
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/424034
Heres the ebay site,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dllViewItem&item=2444028372&category=6398

This guy put a 400 small block, and to all you that say it's stupid, apparently you dont know anything about performance, a CSB400 has the potential of 4 times the max hp on a vg30et engine.

Heres the engine,
http://northeastnissans.com/300zxv8/lg_CIMG0128.jpg
Heres how stock it looks,
http://northeastnissans.com/300zxv8/lg_CIMG0121.jpg

Hope this helped,
Matt
Right on Matt, the 4-banger crowd ain't got a clue!

Right on Matt, the 4-banger crowd ain't got a clue!


Hey idiot! I know ton's of 'four-bangers' that can rip up your car! In fact my 'import' V6 powered Z can probably take on your AMERICAN-built heap as well! Putiing a domestic engine in a JAPANESE car is as retarded as you! AND STOP BRINGING BACK THREADS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN POSTED ON SINCE DECEMBER!

Definetly "MyNismo" my turbo Z31 is pushing 475HP and 442 lb-ft of torque and my turbo spools up at 2500 RPM, I eat V8's all the time Mustang Cobras, SS camaros, firebirds all the rest of the junk. Plus you can get a chevy 350 for like 100 bucks they are so cheap and such a piece of junk they are unrealiable and are not designed to fit in a Z car, plus it takes the handleing characteristics away from the car it just a waste of time and money.

Hey idiot! I know ton's of 'four-bangers' that can rip up your car! In fact my 'import' V6 powered Z can probably take on your AMERICAN-built heap as well! Putiing a domestic engine in a JAPANESE car is as retarded as you! AND STOP BRINGING BACK THREADS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN POSTED ON SINCE DECEMBER!Please educate me further in the history of automobiles, such as how many times has a Chevrolet Corvette ran the pace of the Indianapolis 500 and how many times has a Nissan? In the past 5 years of the 24 Hours of Le Mans, which manufacturer has the most consistant overall wins? I don't believe ist was Nissan. And I do believe that this is just the first year a foreign manufacturer has dared to compete with American "junk" in the NASCAR series (namely the truck series) and it is AMERICAN MADE Toyota. Get a clue fool.

:thefinger

Your junk sucks... keep your comments in the Musclecar forums!

:thefinger

Your junk sucks... keep your comments in the Musclecar forums!
Sounds like your experiencing a bad case of penis-envy.

Hey your taliing about the Chevy Corvette at the 34 hours of lemans that got beat twice by a nissan in 97 and 98 by the nissan r390, oh yeah and chevy had the record for the worlds fastest street car you know with the LS1 but then it got out by a nissan skyline gtr, also the mcguire focus(i know its ford but still domestic) had the record for the worlds fastest E/T on Pro Modified till that got beat out by a 300zx. Don't get my wrong I don't hate V8 I just think the time and technology is in V6's and L4, like look at the new cobra it has 390HP and does the 1/4 in 13.4 now look at the subaru STi it has 300HP and does the 1/4 in 13.2, I know it has AWD but still the cobra has almost 100 more HP and the Evo does it in 13.3, come on and even chevy has import parts on it like the AC compressor and the alternator, so I think you should get a clue before you run your mouth.

I meant 24 hours of lemans

Sacrilage....pure sacrilage.... :nono:

Yo Westpak...NICE friggin cars, man. I'd love to have either of them...couldn't imagine having BOTH. I'm curious though, with those mods, what kind of performance numbers are you getting out of the VQ?

Lots of "hating" going on here. If it is a twin turbo I would leave it alone, but if not I would try the 350. You have to determine what you want to do with the car before you mod it (drag racing, daily driver, auto cross, drifting). Personally I think you should buy a Datsun 510, stroke the 350 to a 383, drop it in and make it a sleeper, thats what i would do with a 350 :2cents:

I dont' want to bring back dead threads either but... you can take a VG TT and turn up the boost for virtually no money. Add some bolt ons and a little electronic trickery...well that puts you up upwards of 450hp and equal or maybe even slight ahead of that on torque. Thats for a damnsite less cash then it would take to stuff a 350 under there. You would blow all the money just on getting the engine in the car with out even touching the performance side. Then once you get that VG up to those levels you would have to start thinking about rebuilding the engine with forged bits and so on...but that is the same thing with the 350...your mainly looking at having a really expensive unique car that still won't be much if any faster then a guy that blew his VG to crazy levels...if its worth it to you to have a V-8 in a Z then go for it. You'll get alot more bang for your buck with the VG though.

I dont' want to bring back dead threads either but... you can take a VG TT and turn up the boost for virtually no money. Add some bolt ons and a little electronic trickery...well that puts you up upwards of 450hp and equal or maybe even slight ahead of that on torque. Thats for a damnsite less cash then it would take to stuff a 350 under there. You would blow all the money just on getting the engine in the car with out even touching the performance side. Then once you get that VG up to those levels you would have to start thinking about rebuilding the engine with forged bits and so on...but that is the same thing with the 350...your mainly looking at having a really expensive unique car that still won't be much if any faster then a guy that blew his VG to crazy levels...if its worth it to you to have a V-8 in a Z then go for it. You'll get alot more bang for your buck with the VG though.
Bravo for your input. There is too much antagonism out in the automotive world as to "who'se the best and the fastest".
For the guy - or girl- who desires a V-8 I think the modern approach is an across the counter LS-1 all aluminum SB Chevy. But on the other hand you are correct in the cost necessary for the HP advantage. I was a car crafter at the age of 7 mixing and matching parts from all of my Revell models since I felt some parts from some cars looked better on some rather than others. My '72 240Z was an absolute animal with a stock 327 and a turbo 350 with a shift kit. The engine utilizing stock eshaust manifolds fit in that car like it was designed for it. But those were the days prior to emission controls and computer controls. Car crafting is what makes us all individuals- dko what YOU want to do. It's your car!

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Keep imports import and domestics domestic. But if you are going to drop more powerfull engines into the Z at least keep them import engines. For instance the Infiniti v8 is a powerful engine, however i don't know if that would fit into the Z32, so why not drop something like that in instead of going over to ford or chevy and using their engines.

Also my friend has a 93TT StageIII, and he takes vettes off the line I also have a friend that drives a 3d gen RX-7 for a couple thousand $ that he put in it he keeps up with the zo6. So why get domestic engines if import engines are just as capable.

Don't defile the Z with a chevy engine! Is my opinion

Chevy engine on Z this guy just coming out of the jungle ... he don't know what is in the City. idiot... Z32 max power is 1000 HP i got the site somewhere but not now... i update here if i remember heheehe. i did post up in Z forums somewhere before. 1000HP will eat up Vette,any mustang,Viper not mention supra with 1200 HP. import cars are just have power and style. American car are just ugly sorry to said this but that the way it is.

Don't be sorry... it's the truth!

Hey your taliing about the Chevy Corvette at the 34 hours of lemans that got beat twice by a nissan in 97 and 98 by the nissan r390, oh yeah and chevy had the record for the worlds fastest street car you know with the LS1 but then it got out by a nissan skyline gtr, also the mcguire focus(i know its ford but still domestic) had the record for the worlds fastest E/T on Pro Modified till that got beat out by a 300zx. Don't get my wrong I don't hate V8 I just think the time and technology is in V6's and L4, like look at the new cobra it has 390HP and does the 1/4 in 13.4 now look at the subaru STi it has 300HP and does the 1/4 in 13.2, I know it has AWD but still the cobra has almost 100 more HP and the Evo does it in 13.3, come on and even chevy has import parts on it like the AC compressor and the alternator, so I think you should get a clue before you run your mouth.

:1: For Nissan

:worshippy http://www.nissanusa.com/m/cma/i/350/350z_highlight_v6engineaward.jpg

Yes thats a V8 Turbo in a z32
http://i.myspace.com/13/62/1732631/8315926_l.JPG
http://i.myspace.com/13/62/1732631/8315944_l.JPG

stupid things , how he close the hook ? oop i see
he dig a big whole in the hook

THE z CAN get 1000 Hp with nissan v6 engine kakakak don't need V8 crap chevy . Upgrade Turbo Max IS 1000hp

thats 1000hp on 89 octane pump gas..iv seen him drag at PIR Seattle and get flat 9s

I'm surprised NO one posted this info. You want to put a V8 in a Z? Go to hybridZ.org ...

There is a 350 chev v8 in a 300zx down here

I have an 86 300zx turbo. It's like new and it's fun to drive, but it's way down on power compared to some other sports cars out today. I'm wondering how hard it would be to put a 3.5, like out of a wrecked 350z, or even out of a maxima or something, into my 300zx?

I would be willing to bet that there really isn't much weight difference between the VG30 and an SBC. The difference between the L6's in the first gen Zs and an SBC is around 125lbs. You reduce that difference down to almost 0 if you use aluminum heads, intake and water pump on the chevy motor.

Lots of guys are installing LS1 powerplants from '98 - up Camaros/Firebirds into Zs of all generations (other than 350Z). The LS1 motors are quite a bit lighter (I believe, all aluminum) than the old SBCs.

The VG30s have good horsepower and torque potential, but it cost a lot more money to build up the VG than is does to get equal (and usually more) HP/torque out of the SBC.

Lots of good info to be had here: HybridZ (http://www.hybridz.org)

Seems to be a lot of hate for anything domestic on this forum.
LS based engines like the LS1 seem to be the choice V-8 swap into any number of cars. The great thing is they usually weigh equal to or less than the 4cyl and 6cyl engines they replace. The transmissions behind them may be a little heaveir than the ones they replace, but the weight difference is not nearly as much as some people would have you believe.

For instance did you know an LS1 and T-56 6speed combo weighs less than a 2 rotor turbo engine and 5-speed combo out of an RX-7? That's right, and it swaps right in making the car an easy low 12-high 11 second car with just a stock 350hp LS1.
http://www.hinsonsupercars.com/
If anything swapping in a modded LS1 into a rotary car like the RX-7 is an improvement in reliablility.
Swaps into 300ZX's have been done also, and the weight of the LS1 drivetrain is less than that of the turbo V-6.
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227281&highlight=300ZX
http://www.streetneeds.com/uploads/video/z32Ls1_nov5.avi

Here's a 240Z with an LS1 swapped in. Guy said the LS1 was only 15-20lb difference from his 4cyl, so the feel of the car wasn't lost, he just doubled or trippled his power.
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=267840

Then there are the LS1 Miata's. They say that an LS1 weighs less than the old iron 1.8L, but the T-56 transmission is a little heavier than the stock 5-speed, but that weight distribution is almost identical.
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=341955&highlight=miata


I think it's pretty shortsided for some you to say that imports shouldn't have domestic engines. The LS1 in most cases is a more capable, reliable, and economical way to put muscle into these cars than modding the stock engine.

Man, next time you want to get into a pissing contest, don't do it in a thread that is over a year old.

yeah dude, not a good start... make sure you check the date of the last post before you go off on a big spiel... guaranteed your post won't even get read and the thread will be closed...

damn newbies

Just trying to add some factual information to a thread that had little to none.

that's great, but i think the point is nobody cares...

No one must have "cared" for 3 pages.

No one must have "cared" for 3 pages.

so why do you think we are gonna care for another page???

if you have something informative to say about a V8 in a 300zx...open a post and we will converse there. half the people that were talking on this thread dont even come here anymore. so basically your arguing with yourself...:thumbsup:

I have one question. When is this thread going to be locked?

when redneck gets around to it i guess... seems wes has left us again!

:lol2:

Better lock it before I post more factual information.

I don't see the point in making another thread when there's already one that pertains to the information posted? Most forums would appluad that.

The point is that what you posted isn't really usefull in a thread thats over a year old. Obviously no one cares about the topic or there would be more threads about it. And like K3s said the people discussing the topic before probably don't even come here any more so it doesn't make any sense to add information that no one wants to see.

The point is that what you posted isn't really usefull in a thread thats over a year old. Obviously no one cares about the topic or there would be more threads about it. And like K3s said the people discussing the topic before probably don't even come here any more so it doesn't make any sense to add information that no one wants to see.

exactly!!! someone make a past z crew member a mod...we need a full timer. :D

honda you stole my avatar you thieving bastard!

after a few minutes of scrolling up and down between each of your guys' avatars...i have came to the conclusion that you both, do indeed, share the same avatar.

i think you should both remove them...its a pretty lame avatar to begin with. just kidding fellas...:lol:

as soon as my motor goes i will be stuffing an LT1 with a custom geared T56 in my 87. Eventually I will let you know how it go's.
you wil need custom motor and tranny mounts and you will need a custom driveshft. I have read that the halfshafts can only handle about 600 bhp before they break with slicks.

The point is that what you posted isn't really usefull in a thread thats over a year old. Obviously no one cares about the topic or there would be more threads about it. And like K3s said the people discussing the topic before probably don't even come here any more so it doesn't make any sense to add information that no one wants to see.
That's where you are wrong. The idea of modifying cars (4N or domestic) with engine swaps will never die. My first car was a '37 Chevy that originally came with an inline 6. The thrill of starting that car for the first time with a 350 V8 was immeasurable. Yes there was a lot of fabricating but that is the beauty of modifying your car. When it's complete you have the satisfaction of knowing that what resides under the hood is a product of your OWN engineering. Not just bolting on a turbo. ANYONE can do that. Oh, by the way, when it comes to racing Hondas in the IRL even they use V8s. Happy motoring!

but see the Z was ment to have a 6 cylinder, it always has had a 6 and it will always will, its not suposed to have a v8 and sound like a muscle car and its not suposed to have a 4 banger and have a fartcan exhaust...the whole point of havin a Z is it sounds and moves like nothing else on the road

Please, don't get me wrong, I have owned Z cars, and they are a pleasure to go canyon carving with. Isn't it a wonderful country we live in that we can ALL express what we desire or build what we want???

*sighs*

Exactly, if it's not your car, why give a ****? And if you DO give a **** for some odd reason and it just bothers you that ****ing much buy the car from them and do what you want to it.

This shit still going on? Pffft... leave your damned junk engines in your junk cars bastards!

This shit still going on?

Yes

Pffft... leave your damned junk engines in your junk cars bastards!

And that is why.

LoL

Sorry guys... I haven't been on in a while, I just saw this.

Masterlocked.

-Wes