where is bugatti from ?


Ghini
10-07-2003, 08:33 AM
i looked up in many websites some told me that bugatti was german other italian and french i need a real answer pls reply

Gafoto
10-16-2003, 05:47 PM
To the best of my knowledge Bugatti was established in Italy (Ettore (sp?) Bugatti was italian) and then later moved to France. Usually it's considered a French company but in terms of heritage it's Italian.

skiff
10-25-2003, 07:20 AM
Ettore was born in Italy (Brescia area). As a teenager, he worked for German and French car companies (De Dion, Peugeot) and established his factory in Molsheim. Molsheim has been German property, but after WW I Molsheim became french. Bugatti is regarded a French company, Ettore preferred to speak french, and many racing cars of his factory were painted blue, the traditional french racing colour.

Duesey
11-12-2003, 12:58 AM
Actually, that blue color is not originally the French racing color, but rather the color of Ettore's wife's pack of Gaulouios cigarettes.

phantom V1
11-21-2003, 09:37 AM
1909 Bugatti set up office in Molsheim in Alsace 12 months later the first Bugatti was on the road Type 13. He was the expert in saddlery and leather work as well as cabinetry. He was also a little eccentric and had shoes made up with individual toes. He lived near his factory and had 6 kids from 2 marriages and loved hroses, had a stable full and also a distillery. He lived like a royal in style. The biggest Bugatti was the Royale 31 and was 4.57 m wheelbase with a 300 continuous HP engine at only 1700rpm a 13 litre with 3 valves per cylinder.

Guyanson_Mendiola
11-29-2003, 06:45 PM
Bugatti is an Italian origin Automotive Manufacturer.

skiff
12-09-2003, 07:38 AM
For the new Bugatti company: A Bugatti company has existed in Italy, and they built the EB110.

Volkwagen purchased the brand name. They are now building a factory (probably ready now) in Molsheim, France.

Another detail: remarks on the drawings Ettore Bugatti made, are all in French.

Duesey
01-31-2004, 12:51 AM
Bugatti is an Italian origin Automotive Manufacturer.

For the new Bugatti company: A Bugatti company has existed in Italy, and they built the EB110.

Volkwagen purchased the brand name. They are now building a factory (probably ready now) in Molsheim, France.

Another detail: remarks on the drawings Ettore Bugatti made, are all in French.

News flash people, Bugatti was not started with the production of the EB110. That car was built without any connection Bugatti aside from the name. Bugatti, in truth was never truly Italian, it was almost always French, except during the German occupation of Alsace in WWI. There is no 'new' Bugatti,' there are only bastardized incarnates of the once great brand, and as of yet, none have suceeded. Bugatti the brand died in 1947, with the death of its found Ettore.

CarPassionist
02-13-2004, 06:38 AM
Ettore was born in Italy (Brescia area). As a teenager, he worked for German and French car companies (De Dion, Peugeot) and established his factory in Molsheim. Molsheim has been German property, but after WW I Molsheim became french. Bugatti is regarded a French company, Ettore preferred to speak french, and many racing cars of his factory were painted blue, the traditional french racing colour

1909 Bugatti set up office in Molsheim in Alsace 12 months later the first Bugatti was on the road Type 13. He was the expert in saddlery and leather work as well as cabinetry. He was also a little eccentric and had shoes made up with individual toes. He lived near his factory and had 6 kids from 2 marriages and loved hroses, had a stable full and also a distillery. He lived like a royal in style.

i think you've covered the basics of the Bugatti history befrore WWI :smile:
Bugatti till 1956 was a french company.!

The biggest Bugatti was the Royale 31 and was 4.57 m wheelbase with a 300 continuous HP engine at only 1700rpm a 13 litre with 3 valves per cylinder.

True, but with a little correction, the Royale was Type 41 ;)

Bugatti was not started with the production of the EB110. That car was built without any connection Bugatti aside from the name.
True.. The company name rights were bought from Romano Artiolli(I think the name was something like that :rolleyes: ) around 1988. he immediately started to construcht a new factory outside Modena and two new cars, the EB110 and EB112(a limosine). The EB100 was unveiled around 1991 and produced till 1996-1997. The production costs could never be equaled with intake from car sales!

There is no 'new' Bugatti,' there are only bastardized incarnates of the once great brand, and as of yet, none have suceeded..
If you have read a little Bugatti history, you woudn't have writen this! :screwy: The Bugatti dynasty might not be involved in the company any more, but Artiolly did built the car with Ettore's principals! And the history of EB110 is pretty much like that of the Royale one! Too fast, too expensive etc!

The EB112 was used as a design prototype for the EB118 and the later EB218 limo.
The Veyron is a real Bugatti! there are no VW parts nothing contrary to Lamborghini which is really being bastardized from Audi! VW bought Bugatti and left themwith free hands to create the ultimate sports car of the 00 decade!

Hudson
05-03-2004, 09:25 PM
The Bugatti engine is not entirely unique. Some engine parts ARE based on VW parts.

The Lamborghini Murcielago is almost entirely of Automobili Lamborghini design. The Gallardo does use some Audi-based parts. It's hardly "bastardized," though.

993cc Man
05-04-2004, 08:38 AM
VW bought Bugatti and left themwith free hands to create the ultimate sports car of the 00 decade!

Left who? No one was there to leave "with free hands". Lamborghini was and is a carmaker. When VW bought Bugatti they just bought a badge. Everything about the Veyron is based on VW technology cause there is no alternative. What do you think they'd use? EB110 tech? Or maybe Type 35?

InternationalAuto
10-12-2004, 09:30 PM
Ok Everyone STTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPP, A couple of days ago I passed over this forum coming on plane trip back from Rome. Everyone but a select few have got the whole buggati history/story wrong, but thats alright because I'll fill you in.

On Sept. 15, 1881 Ettore Arco Isidoro or better known as Ettore Bugatti was born in Brescia, Milan, Italy. Although Italian, with many family roots in Milan, Ettore founded the Bugatti company in Molsheim, in the Alsace region of France. His creations were fabulously Engineered but vastly expensive, and production on all of his cars never really Kicked off compared to other world manufacturers. There were many attempts to revive the name but all had failed, until a canny Italian man named Romano Artioli (not Artiolly) stepped into the arena. Romano rekindled the Bugatti magic in spectacular fashion but ultimatly the dream proved over ambitious and it ended up in bankruptcy. The plan was grand, a state-of-the-art factory was Built in nothern Italy it was named the avantgarde Fatory. Romano hired some of the industries best like Paolo Stanzani as technical Director and Marcello Gandini as designer both of whom were effectivly fired later on. Anyway they were going to built a mid-engined supercar respectivly the EB110 which was named after Ettore and the Bugatti name (hence EB) and the car was to be launched on the 110th aniversary of his birth (Hence 110). The outrageous All Aluminium bodied supercar kept the traditional horseshoe grill but it was a very small part of the whole front grill itself. But hidden away under the cars radical body was an amazing 3.5 litre V12 fitted with no less than 4 turbochargers and no more than 60 valves spread over all 12 cylinder heads developing a modest 535 Brake horsepower but is was highly efficient and remarkably reliable. With a speacialized four wheel drive system and many other features this car went extremely fast and handled extremely well. But Unfourtunatly By the time the Bugatti was launched, the supercar sales boom of the 1980's with the Revoulutionary Porsche 959 and the sexy Ferrari 288 GTO it was well and truly over. The price of the Bugatti was a walloping US$486,000 and then Bugatti / Romano produced the EB110SS which developed 611 BHP and had a top speed of 356 K/ph instead of 341 K/ph but it was also another US$93,000 more than the normal EB110. In the End Romano Became to Ambitious, He bought Lotus from GM and told Ital Design to make a four door super saloon (sedan) called the EB112 but they stopped work on the project because Ital Design were claiming lack of payment. In 1995 The showcase factory lay deserted due to the Bankruptcy and it is not known for sure how many cars were produced; Artioli claimed 154 including the one built for Micheal Shumacher. Today Volkswagen Motor group have bought the rights to the bugatti name and they are producing the Veyron 16/4 which will probably be the fastest real production car on earth ( despite having the Swiss company Orca producing the C113 that claims to do 0-60 m/ph in 2.9 seconds as well). They have also produced a "super saloon concept" the EB218 which is a 6.25 Litre AWD V18 (which I think someone may have already mentioned). I hope this has solved everyones problems. If you ever travel to Italy be sure to visit the Avantgarde Factory because it is truly spectacular and also visit the italian marques factorys like Ferrari, Lamborghini etc ohh and the Fiat complex at Turin it has a racetrack on the buildings Roof. PS The 16/4 Veyron has a Full VW motor and part of the Design is contributed by VW where another part to contracted designers, and their is no Bugatti that is seprate from VW so just to correct some people the whole project is pretty much VW and VW did not Let bugatti "Free Hands" Because Beleive it or not Bugatti Is VW.

InternationalAuto
10-12-2004, 09:39 PM
Sorry about spelling errors got to catch a boat to Phillip Island from Aussi Mainland to test drive a Brand new Aston Martin DB9 and Porsche GT3, So excited.

Hudson
10-13-2004, 11:08 PM
InternationalAuto:

It wasn't the spelling errors (or the long-winded way of saying "Ettore's Bugatti was French, Artioli's was Italian, VW's is French") that bothered me. The EB118 was a four-door sedan (saloon) and it wasn't exactly a "V18" because it had three banks of 6-cylinders each. The EB218 was a 2-door version of the EB118 (which, itself, was an evolution of the EB112). These two were followed by a third concept (giving up the obvious EB318 to prevent problems with BMW) which was a Lamborghini-based 2-seater named 18/3 Chiron (still powered by the 6255cc W18). The fourth in the series of VW-built concepts was the 18/4 Veyron. With the problems associated with the 18-cylinder engine, the production version of the Veyron is the 16/4, referring to its 16-cylinder engine (now in two banks of 15-degree V8s).

I've done a little research on the history of "modern" Bugattis.

brian92
09-26-2008, 01:31 AM
uhh i was on wikipedia and i read that its origins are french but currently its german but i did not read anywhere that it was italian

Gafoto
09-26-2008, 05:45 AM
Stop necroposting, it brings me back from the dead.

Hudson
09-26-2008, 12:20 PM
uhh i was on wikipedia and i read that its origins are french but currently its german but i did not read anywhere that it was italian
It's not like Wikipedia is without errors or omissions.

Bugatti is owned by Volkswagen AG but the cars are built in France, not too far from where Ettore built his Bugattis. Before Volkswagen took over the name, Romano Artioli bought the rights to the name from Hispanso-Suiza and built a factory in Campogliano, Italy, where he produced about 149 Bugatti EB110s between 1991 and 1995.

vids1386
08-04-2010, 01:05 AM
Bugatti is from germany but today it is manufactured in france.

Peter Blake
08-06-2010, 03:33 AM
I think in present Bugatti may belongs to France but it has roots in Italy which has long tradition of super fast and luxurious car making history.

Ivan Hutchins
09-02-2010, 04:19 AM
Established in Italy and then later moved to France. Usually it's considered a French company but in terms of heritage it's Italian.

skiff
01-01-2011, 02:33 PM
As said before:

Ettore Bugatti was born in Milan. He worked for italian companies, german companies, and french companies.
In 1909 he establishes his own company, in Molsheim, a place in Germany, near to the French border.

In 1914 WWI starts. Ettore brings his family to Milan.

In 1918, WWI ends. Molsheim now is French. (remember that a sort of French is always spoken in Alsace, where Molsheim is located)

Bugatti remains French the rest of its history. In 1963 it is bought by Hispano Suiza.

In 1989 Romano Artioli buys the Bugatti brand name, and produces a small series of cars (EB110, EB112).

After the bankruptcy of Artiolis venture, VW (german) buys the name, and decides to build sports cars in Molsheim (france) again.

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