R32, R33 or R34 is better?

hey, which model is better? R32? R33? R34? in account of itz looks and power.

I say the R34 is better. Yeah the R33 and R32 have made big recoords, but only because people have had them for years and had lots of time to work on them.

ZZII,

Have you driven one?

I have driven a R32, and a R33. I like the R32 a lot better.

I have a few friends that have R34 race cars, and they like the R32 better.

Hiro at MotoRex drives a R32 GTR, and he could drive any one of the 3.

Plus for the money, they are lot better value. I own 3 R32 GTRs, so you know where I stand.

Why is r32 better than the r33 and especially the r34? People who are car fanatics say the r32 is better. I remember the man who created Gran Turismo picked the r32 as the best AWD car ever instead of the r34. Why is that?

Because the Suspension sys is better on the R32. The ride is smoother. But what it comes to speed and accel. the R34 is better. (base of course)

Really? I was unaware of that fact.

hay can u guys\girlz elaborate on these things? Y is the R32 better than the 33 and 34? wat factors make them better?

I just said u dunce! The R32 is a better ride, but the 34 is a faster one! So it depends on you. Do u want a smooth ride or a fast one?

Because the Suspension sys is better on the R32. The ride is smoother. But what it comes to speed and accel. the R34 is better. (base of course)

Are you saying this from personal experience or just from what you've read? I don't know of too many people, other than those in Japan, who have driven all three of the GTRs, especially stock...

Also, the suspension is different between the regular GTRs and the GTR VSPECs, so it depends on which GTR you have...

The R32 does not have a better ride. It is more of the driving postion, power, handling, ride quality, feels smaller more nimble if you will. It feels more like a sports car.

The R33, to me feels more like a sedan. The R34 has more gadgets.


ZZII I really doubt has personal experiance, no offence.

I have not drive the R34, but like I said I know of 6 guys that have, and the prefer the R32. That speaks volumes for which one is better for me.

Give me an R32 an day:)

I have driven all three models and my prefernce is for the R32.. it feels a littel more sure footed than the other 2, even though I have a 33 I am trying to sell it to make room for a 32..

I think the r34 is better because of two things the looks and the performance... i do believe that the r 32 is harder to drift wif and that the instant acc. is not as powerful as the r 34 ....

ez

I have driven all 3, all in varying modded form. I must say the 32 is my choice. I don't really know why but I think the absence of 100kgs in the 32 as compared to the other 2 models really make the difference. It feels nimbler and easier to control.
And I disagree with the last post. The 32 is a lt easier to drift than the 33 or 34. The older ATTESSA chip in the 32 is probably the reason for that.

the r32 is fastest it has same power as r34 but it has a lighter body

I have noticed on this thread, the guys that are in the know, have picked the R32 gtr. The guys that have no idea, have selected the R34, I wonder why that is.

I think this thread is more orinted for the guys that have driven them, not just read about them. If you have never driven one, you are tainting the thread.


PMJ has an awesome R33, and he perfers the R32. I will leave it at that.

I think the r34 is better because of two things the looks and the performance... i do believe that the r 32 is harder to drift wif and that the instant acc. is not as powerful as the r 34 ....

ez


Dude, all three are AWD, u can't drift wit them, unless u do somethig to them.

No i have not have the honor of diving them, but my friend has. He said the 32 is a better ride, but the 34 was quicker to him.

R32 GTR 4.73sec 13.02sec
R33 GTR 4.94sec 13.19sec
R34 GTR 4.92sec 13.13sec

Those times are from High Performance Imports. "From a previous post"

These are times of the stock GTRs, notice something about the R32 times, they are quicker:)


You can drift with GTRs, I have seen it. It just works better with the 4wd system disconnected, but it is doable.

As for which GT-R is better, it really comes down to what each individual is looking for.

Personally, I like performance over looks, and speed over comfort. Based on what I've heard and read, it looks like an R32 would be the one for me, since it is lighter and a bit faster, at least in stock form. It would be reasonable to assume that given equal mods, the R32 would still be faster. The R32 is also cheaper.

I have a friend that owns a Lamborghini Diablo VT, and he likes cars that are cushy, high-tech, and fast. An R33 or R34 would probably be more to his liking, especially the R34 with its central screen. He just had an accident in the Diablo, and the damage is about as much as the price of an R34.:disappoin

Guys, just digressing a bit here. Do you all notice that the model code for R32 and R34 is BNR32 and BNR34 respectively while the R33 code is BCNR33. What's the "C" for? And why is the "C" there in R33?
I really don't know but a friend of mine who is a definite car freak (having owned 32/33/34 plus a DB7 Aston and a F355) told me that the "C" stands for "competition". Apparently, the R33 was made/homologated to comply with Europe's racing/competition rules/standards while the 33 n 34 are not. Don't ask me what this means as I :dunno: Perhaps some of you could verify this out of interest. :cheers:
Coming back to the topic. Yes...R32 is marginally faster in stock form. And yes, IMHO, the R32 looks rugged and retro (especially in its launching colour of Gunmetal!). I just love it! But the R34 looks simply AWESOME as well. I mean, everytime I see it at my rear, I shit in my pants reagrdless of what I am driving! :eek2:

It really all depends on what you like. Looks, speed, handling, price, weight, status, fun. My opinion, I like the R32 the best, it was the first of the all-wheel drive GTRs. It is also the lightest by quite a few kilograms. Basically, no matter what mods you do to a 33 or 34, you can do the same to a 32 and you will still be lighter and faster. I like all three GTRs, they all dominate every other make of car when tuned to their potential. Also, all parts from all three GTRs can be modified to fit on any of them. Basically if one were so inclined, you could build a 32 to have all the great attributes of the 33 or 34. Really its a personal preference kind of thing.
The 32 is more affordable simply because the newest was made in 1994. I have lived in Japan since the R32's introduction. I saw all three introduced, tuned and daily driven. They all do it well.

I think the R32 n R33 are better. . .cuz both are lighter than the R34s. . .

-aG

R33 and the R34 weigh almost the same.

The C coding for 93-97 in Nissan chassis designators was for vehicles equipped with HICAS.

Guys, just digressing a bit here. Do you all notice that the model code for R32 and R34 is BNR32 and BNR34 respectively while the R33 code is BCNR33. What's the "C" for? And why is the "C" there in R33?
I really don't know but a friend of mine who is a definite car freak (having owned 32/33/34 plus a DB7 Aston and a F355) told me that the "C" stands for "competition". Apparently, the R33 was made/homologated to comply with Europe's racing/competition rules/standards while the 33 n 34 are not. Don't ask me what this means as I :dunno: Perhaps some of you could verify this out of interest.

They all had HICAS

I personally feel that the R32 has better response out of the coners. So it depends on what you are going to do with the car.

I personally feel that the R32 has better response out of the coners. So it depends on what you are going to do with the car.

And this based on? You have driven all the GTRs?

They all had HICAS

Yes, but in that time frame, Nissan encoded all HICAS equipped cars with the C. If you noticed, there are no BNR33's. They did away with it around 97. (ECR33, etc. etc.)

The C is used in the R32 and 33 body codes. The reason the R33 GTR has it and the R32 doesn't is the way the listed codes for those models.

The R32 had the steering and drive system code together. So the following letter (or lack there of) after the engine code (H/B/E or F) and before the R32 is only one of the following:
no letter: normal RWD with no Hicas
C: Hicas
N: ATTESSA (almost AWD) and Hicas

With the R33, they made two different codes for the Steering and drive system. So, after the engine code (H/B or E) you can have any of the following:
First is the steering code:
no letter: no Hicas
C: Hicas
Then there's the drive system code:
no letter: RWD
N: AWD
Then it's followed by the R33.

With the R34, they stopped coding the Hicas altogether.


As far as the best, looks wise, the R34 it tight! But the fact is the R32 GTR holds the most records. There's a reason HKS used that body and still does for their 1200hp drag car. It's the lightest. There's a reason the aussies use the R32 for the rally racing, it's the smallest and lightest for the courses, best weight placement for balance, and being powered by the same power plant and being the lightest it has the best acceleration.
Check out this link under racing on the left:
http://www.justjap.com/Welcome_Page.htm

The weight difference can mean alot, I've raced R33 GTS25t's and R34 GT-T's that everyone would think should win because they have the RB25DET and I only have the RB20DET. But the fact is their weight is a big handicap and I've more often then not pulled away.

I love the look of an R34, but when it comes down to which one I'd choose to drive and race, the R32 is my choice GTR or not.

I've been all all 3 models of the GTR's.

the 32 was definitely the best drivers car. But as for refinement, I liked the 34 the best. Just very stylish and nicely built. the 32 is more frenetic to drive, somewhat twitchier.

and I've owned an r32 gts-4 and now an r34 GT-T. the r34 is just a nicer car in my opinion.

GTES-t, thanks very much for clarifying about the letter "C" in the code. You know a lot man...compared to you, I know nuts!
IMHO, the 32 is great. 33 is a bit chunkier. 34 is even chunkier but looks awesome. I will take anyone of them

the r32 is fastest it has same power as r34 but it has a lighter body

Nope. It has the same quoted power. The R34 actually has significantly more power.

I think the R32 n R33 are better. . .cuz both are lighter than the R34s. . .

-aG

Well that must mean that a Daihatsu Charade is even better than the R32 - being lighter, and everything..... :rolleyes:

Weight isn't everything. There are a heap of different factors that need to be taken into consideration. For a start, the original post just said R32 33 or 34 - didn't even specify which model. Since too many people in the US assume everything with a SKyline badge is a GTR, I guess we're sposed to be talking about GTRs.

Ok, the R32 GTR is marginally faster in a straight line. It's harder to drive (not from experience, but from reading a hell of a lot of comparisons, and talking to many people with various models), and not as quick round a racetrack.

Real world? Any model GTR is far better than most of us. You also have to drive like a maniac to see how good they are. If you just drive reasonably hard, you won't find much to choose between the GTR and another turbo Skyline. Personally, driving like a normal person (fairly aggressively at times, but almost never like a nutter), I prefer my R33 GTS25t over the two R32 GTRs I've driven - both of which I should say were more powerful, and would handle a lot better than my car.

As for looks, you can't say one is "better" than the others. All you can say is that you personally prefer one or the other. Myself I'm partial to the R33, others like the R32 and others the R34. None of us are "wrong" - we just like different things.

But the fact is the R32 GTR holds the most records. There's a reason HKS used that body and still does for their 1200hp drag car.

The HKS drag car is an R33 body (what's left of it). - Unless we're talking different HKS drag GTRs; they may well have more than one, I spose

The weight difference can mean alot, I've raced R33 GTS25t's and R34 GT-T's that everyone would think should win because they have the RB25DET and I only have the RB20DET. But the fact is their weight is a big handicap and I've more often then not pulled away.

The driver can make a big difference too. The 25t has better power-to weight ratio than the GTS-t, and the GT-t is better again. The 33 and 34 with the RB25DET also have more torque available earlier on, so all else being equal, will be faster than a GTS-t. All else is usually not equal; level of mods, driver ability (and/or brutality :p ) etc.

for the money, an r32 is better, but performance wise, an r34 is better (assuming your comparing a stock r32 and r34) but you can always tune a r32 and have a great ride. im going to soon own a 1993 r32 GTR. and im going to tune the hell out of it.

well i like the r33 because it looks the nicest! imo.. but id take an r32 anyday, its so small compared to the r34 (well it looks that way from the front)

the hood isnt as high...the r32 has a slightly smaller hood, but only by an inch or so...but the r34 hoods are placed higher.

some would say the r33 is a step down from the r34, the majority of people who actually research and own skylines either own a r32 or r34. most owning r32's. if you like the r33 style body, you can mount it on an r32 chassis (not super easy, but not too tough...it can be done).

the hood isnt as high...the r32 has a slightly smaller hood, but only by an inch or so...but the r34 hoods are placed higher.

some would say the r33 is a step down from the r34, the majority of people who actually research and own skylines either own a r32 or r34. most owning r32's. if you like the r33 style body, you can mount it on an r32 chassis (not super easy, but not too tough...it can be done).

Mount on a R32 chassis, that is some funny crap. Majority of people own r32s or R34s, really?

How old are you?

1.) i dont appreciate your dumbshit smart ass replys

2.) you can mount an r33 hood or whatever (as long as its not a GTR model) on an R32 GTR.

and 3.) the majority of people that i know that own a skyline, either have an r32 or an r34 model because of the performance issue. but out of the people who own an r32 or r34 more own r32s than r34s (cash issue).

dont be such a dick when you reply, youll get a bit more respect.

1.) i dont appreciate your dumbshit smart ass replys

2.) you can mount an r33 hood or whatever (as long as its not a GTR model) on an R32 GTR.

and 3.) the majority of people that i know that own a skyline, either have an r32 or an r34 model because of the performance issue. but out of the people who own an r32 or r34 more own r32s than r34s (cash issue).

dont be such a dick when you reply, youll get a bit more respect.

not trying to be rude or anything...but when you say 'the majority of people that i know that own a skyline' (lmao); are you saying you actually know that many people (considering you seem like your 12) that own skylines??

and no shit that most of the people who own a skyline would have an r32...so why state info that we all know

oi, your not bright. I understand that.

In your previous post you mentioned that the R33 GTR hood is larger,but you can mount it on a R32 GTR. Son, you are a dumbass.

Not to mention your dubmass said you can mount the whole body on of a R33 on a R32 chassis. Seriously, your 12 right?


Its kids like you that screw up good forums. Infact, a lot of people don't like this forum because punks like you post crap like that. So, could you please go play with your hotwheels, thanks. :)

You mentioned hood, so more than likely your from the states?

eheh i laugh at your post. you dont seem to bright, saying that a r44 body can fit on the r32 chassis. even if it is possible, (well maybe with a whole lot of sawing..) who in the world would want to do that? and since that r33 looks thing was my opinion, i would like to give more opinions.. i wont want to screw up my beautiful r32 or r33 by changing the top or bottom. if i have an r33, id take it the way it is. if i have an r32, id do the same.

and furthermore, i dont think r34s are as abundant as you think. its still quite expensive here compared to the r33, (well at least where i live) and so, my opinion : r32s, r33s, r34s, = 5 : 4 :1

1.) i dont appreciate your dumbshit smart ass replys

2.) you can mount an r33 hood or whatever (as long as its not a GTR model) on an R32 GTR.

and 3.) the majority of people that i know that own a skyline, either have an r32 or an r34 model because of the performance issue. but out of the people who own an r32 or r34 more own r32s than r34s (cash issue).

dont be such a dick when you reply, youll get a bit more respect.

ahhhhh...I don't think SkylineUSA is lacking for respect on this forum. He's been here quite a while, and owns (2 or 3?) Skylines.

The majority of people you know who own Skylines is a very different statement for the majority of people who own Skylines. There are plenty of people with R33s. otoh, of course more people own R32s and 34s, because that's two models, whereas the R33 is just one model. You could just as accurately say that more people own R32s and 33s than 34s, or more 33s and 34s than 32s. :rolleyes:

Why on earth would you downgrade an R33 by sticking it on an R32 chassis? Do you not credit Nissan engineers with any know-how at all? Do you really think they would take a step backward?

this thread went downhill quick..

anyhoo..

It's suprising to see the r32 being prefured/respected over the r33/34 by so many people. I(a complete pe0n when it comes to skylines) would have never thunk it..

and MOTREX has the 90-92 r32 GTR for 30/34k~?(yet 94 is 44k..)

man.. almost too good to be true.. its a shame still cant afford it ATM.. :banghead:

I perfer the looks of the R34 but wouldn't give up my 33 for anything.

R33 series 2 lowered on some nice Rays racing wheels looks PHAT AS

http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL348/944371/1745642/49587960.jpg

but I am kinda biased :D

lol, if it were me Id go for r34 if I was deep in a pot of cash, but otherwise Id go for the r33 cause of the value, its pretty cheap nowadays. I wouldnt go for r32, its old now, tipping the scale at 15 years--r32 gtr began its life in 1989, and so it goes to the pound. Its led a happy life, but its dead sadly, and so will be the r33 in 3-4 years, when the the next gtr comes out, takes the stand and they leave it to the underdogs-r34,r33,r32 lol.

lol, if it were me Id go for r34 if I was deep in a pot of cash, but otherwise Id go for the r33 cause of the value, its pretty cheap nowadays. I wouldnt go for r32, its old now, tipping the scale at 15 years--r32 gtr began its life in 1989, and so it goes to the pound. Its led a happy life, but its dead sadly, and so will be the r33 in 3-4 years, when the the next gtr comes out, takes the stand and they leave it to the underdogs-r34,r33,r32 lol.

That statement shows that you no nothing about the GTR.

lol, if it were me Id go for r34 if I was deep in a pot of cash, but otherwise Id go for the r33 cause of the value, its pretty cheap nowadays. I wouldnt go for r32, its old now, tipping the scale at 15 years--r32 gtr began its life in 1989, and so it goes to the pound. Its led a happy life, but its dead sadly, and so will be the r33 in 3-4 years, when the the next gtr comes out, takes the stand and they leave it to the underdogs-r34,r33,r32 lol.

:eek7:

Ok I'm trying to figure this statement out. The R32, R33, R34 have not been produced for 2 years now, so in fact they're all dead. What isn't dead is the love and demands for these cars. In fact the demand for the R32 GTR is still as high as it was 10 years ago. They are holding their prices better than the two later models which have plumined sharply especially the R34 which has dropped by 30%. The R33 has dropped by nearly 20% in the past two years alone yet the R32 has remained within 5% of its current price.

thus I restate its my opinion, you need not agree with me nor offed me.

If you have an informed opinion that is fine. Your opinion is based on first hand experience, or playstaion, and mags? If you give your opinion in a public form, and it has no credibility, guess what, I am going to tell you point blank you have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry if you are offended, but thems the facts.

R32 is by far the best value :evillol:

I have been in the japanese automotive scene since about 6 years ago, and that includes my love for skylines. Admittedly people in the states still have a wanting for them, but thats merely credited to youngsters who whilst cannot afford such. I do not base it on magazines at all, I have riddend along side a few skylines including r34 which I have found fabulous. I base it on my personal experiences and that of my brother. R32 is the cheapest one, best bang for the buck model I think--but with age combined with modifications comes complications as you might now, and it is riding 15 years on its chassis still I think its a great car, if you are looking for value not looks.

So, you are basing you opinion on the fact that you have seen all the GTRs? If you had driven them, I think your opinion might change.

I work on my own GTRs, I am confused on the complications you are referring too?

You will notice the majority of the guys that actually do their own work, and have driven them, prefer the R32 GTR, there is a reason. R32s look much better in person, pics do not do the car justice, as I have said time and time again.


You mentioned that you have been on the japanese automotive scene, at what capacity?

I know of them. I have never met Ronnie.

Has your brother broken into the 9s, we all know his car is capable of those numbers? I am not going to say anything about your brother, because he might think I am jealous, which is not the case.

So, have you driven all the GTRs, or are you just going by looks? My first post to you, I was under the assumption that were not a local, my bad.

What are the complications you were referring too?

Ronnie is going to be at TOTB yet again this year, and I expect him to break another pair of records as usual.:)
Andy hasn't yet broken into the 9's and I doubt he would be able to do so, hes been putting down smooth 11 second passes at the strips with effort. Hes doing a few things and tweaks to see if the car can pull in over 1000hp-crank~800-to the wheels, which undoubtebly should be enough to break into the low 10's and possibly mid 9's. I have not driven all the gtrs, I havent had the pleasure as of yet, but personally I wouldnt be in such pursuit of this. I am more involved in style and grace of which I loom over the 350z, while my brother andy prefers the sheer amounts of power the gtr delivers. I am more subtle I suppose, I would settle with a stock 350z personally; I dont look into modifiying any car in hopes of facing problems later on. I do admire all skylines for what they are, but if it were up to me I would only settle for a r34. In hopes of not encountering problems one faces with a more than decade old car. A few peeps in wales I see beat r32s down and later I see them get so thrashed they need rebuilds--common in rb's in excess of 500hp with 100k miles tipping, thus one needs a rebuild, whilst the r33 and r34 can handle more power and for longer and more stable periods of time. With proper installation and maintenance though, andy has driven the r34 hard and relentlessly to the extremes, and he hasnt encountered any major problems really. Its logic that once the "next gtr" steps up, and is showcased the r32-r34's will get to go for those in need of a bootlegged street machine. The r34 will be the only one to maintain somewhat hogh-medium prices, while the r33 will be under 20k, and r32 will be in the area of 15k--not in u.s. dollars!
I am just awaiting 'long side for news to come about, and since andy is a rep. for do-luck and has many connections with shin and a few peeps at nissan jp they will give him the heads up hopefully soon enough.

Ronnie is going to be at TOTB yet again this year, and I expect him to break another pair of records as usual.:)
Andy hasn't yet broken into the 9's and I doubt he would be able to do so, hes been putting down smooth 11 second passes at the strips with effort. Hes doing a few things and tweaks to see if the car can pull in over 1000hp-crank~800-to the wheels, which undoubtebly should be enough to break into the low 10's and possibly mid 9's. I have not driven all the gtrs, I havent had the pleasure as of yet, but personally I wouldnt be in such pursuit of this. I am more involved in style and grace of which I loom over the 350z, while my brother andy prefers the sheer amounts of power the gtr delivers. I am more subtle I suppose, I would settle with a stock 350z personally; I dont look into modifiying any car in hopes of facing problems later on. I do admire all skylines for what they are, but if it were up to me I would only settle for a r34. In hopes of not encountering problems one faces with a more than decade old car. A few peeps in wales I see beat r32s down and later I see them get so thrashed they need rebuilds--common in rb's in excess of 500hp with 100k miles tipping, thus one needs a rebuild, whilst the r33 and r34 can handle more power and for longer and more stable periods of time. With proper installation and maintenance though, andy has driven the r34 hard and relentlessly to the extremes, and he hasnt encountered any major problems really. Its logic that once the "next gtr" steps up, and is showcased the r32-r34's will get to go for those in need of a bootlegged street machine. The r34 will be the only one to maintain somewhat hogh-medium prices, while the r33 will be under 20k, and r32 will be in the area of 15k--not in u.s. dollars!


You really think the R33-R34 are capable of handling more power, and wear less than an R32, that is strange.

I prefer the sheer amount of power/torque as well, that is why I opt for a good old American V8 with forced induction of course, but I do love those Nippon straight sixes as well.

I prefer the sheer amount of power/torque as well, that is why I opt for a good old American V8 with forced induction of course.

Turncoat, you! :naughty:

Turncoat, you! :naughty:

Naw, its just better 1/4 mile power, plus the solid rear axle helps as well:D

I am quoting a R34 GTR owner.

"Compared to the BNR32 the 34 is got faster reacting electronics yes, but that doesn't make a car!! Apart form small changes in cam spec, and turbine design most RB26 are pretty much the same. Most people end up tuning them in some form or another so I don't really see what the stock motor power rating has to do with anything.

R32s are a bit lighter and a bit conservative aesthetically speaking, so maybe the reason people tend to go for the more visually aggressive 34. I own a 34 and I don't really have any preference for it....a GTR is a GTR no matter how you look at it. I love the 32 and I hope to add one to my collection sometime as I think it just looks better and better. I hope the 34 can age as well...the 33 seems to be looking old design wise but its still a bad ass GTR so I guess its all down to preference. But for someone to say that they like the 34 better because its faster is talking out of his arse!"

You make the call :iceslolan

Autech has a R32 and R34 set up similarly, and the R32 has better times, so there you go. FYI :smokin:

Indeed, its true the rb26's throughout the generations are nearly identical except for a few things but personally Ive had my chance of riding alonside few who own r32s. I note that r34s can tolerate more brute amounts, but really I do think the r32 tranny is more withstanding of that of the r34s, if my perception is on key, so may belive otherwise but Ive witnessed hard launches from both and cay safely say the r32 holds its own fairly well. The r34 has much more electronics, and with that it appeals more to me than the r32, but either way both are great.