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Importaholic
10-05-2003, 02:43 AM
I'm looking at 2 cars right now...one being a spec V and the other a rsx base or type s....which one should i go with....im confused as hell....i like both of them...which one is a better buy.....based on speed (performance) and how long it will LAST me??????????

mjackson23us
10-06-2003, 10:45 PM
THE ACURA RSX TYPE-S IS MUCH FASTER, and a much better car,
but if I had a choice between a "base" RSX, and a Nissan SER Spec-v...I would go with the spec-v, a spec-v will beat a "base" rsx....but a Nissan Sentra SER spec-v is no match for a Type-S RSX....

ACURA RSX TYPE-S 0-60mph in 6.7 Seconds
in my Test with a G-tech

Nissan Sentra SER Spec-v 0-60mph in 7.9 Seconds
in my Test with a G-tech

p.s. I did alot of research , and I chose a Toyota Celica GTS 6-speed,
over the RSX Type-S....the type-S is slightly fast, but a Celica gives
more thrills and feels alot better when takeing turns...i test drove a spec-v which has alot of torque, the acura RSX type-s didn't feel right for me...so I bought the Celica GTS, which is great

ACURA RSX TYPE-S IS MORE RELIABLE THAN A NISSAN SER SPEC-V
BUT THE TOYOTA CELICA GTS BEATS BOTH OF THEM ON RELIABILITY.

A GTS CELICA 6-speed manual IN MY TEST WITH THE G-TECH DID
0-60mph in 6.9 Seconds but i once got it in 6.6 seconds when i revved
the engine to 5500 rpms on Launch....
A spec-v however will have more punch off the line if all of these cars, don't peel out on launch, because the RSX and Toyota Celica don't have
as much torque as a Spec-V....but Nissan Suffers from average reliability, RSX has above average reliability....and the Celica tops the charts in reliability....

if you have any other questions, e-mail me at mjackson23us@yahoo.com

i can give you 0-60mph on almost any car, i have 13 books on new and used car specs and 0-60mph....all the way back to the late 80's

sr20de4evr
10-07-2003, 12:10 AM
That was the most retarded post I've ever read, do some real research next time. The base rsx will be slaughtered by the base se-r or spec, no questions asked. With equal drivers the type-s will BARELY beat the spec-v in the 1/4. We're talking 15.1 to 14.9. The spec has the advantage off the line, the type s has the top end, after about 1/3 of a mile the type s catches up and passes the spec-v and then pulls the rest of the race. Mind you this is with equal drivers, if the spec driver is slightly better he will win. The celica gts will lose to both but not by much, it can put up a pretty good fight.

mjackson23us
10-07-2003, 02:36 AM
THATS WHAT I POSTED DUDE....I said a SER SPEC-V WILL BEAT A "BASE" RSX....BUT AN RSX TYPE-S WILL BEAT A SPEC-V ANY DAY, OFF THE LINE OR NOT....ALL THE TYPE-S HAS TO DO IS REV ITS ENGINE TO ABOUT 4500 RPM AND LAUNCH....WHERE AS THE SPEC-V DOESN"T NEED TO DO THIS BECAUSE IT HAS SO MUCH TORQUE....tell me to do research! HA!....I've seen them DRAG AT THE TRACK!!!...AND THE SPEC-V DOESN"T EVEN GET INCHES ON THE TYPE-S OFF THE LINE!....
A SPEC-V IS SAID TO DO THE 1/4 MILE in 15.8 AT ITS BEST...an RSX TYPE-S can do it in 14.7, NOW YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH!
LOL
i research cars for a living...

mjackson23us
10-07-2003, 02:40 AM
AND ONE MORE THING....I RACED MY FRIENDS 2002 HONDA CIVIC Si...
WITH THE BASE RSX ENGINE, it has 160 HORSEPOWER....
I RACED A BASE NISSAN SENTRA SER...that had 165 HORSEPOWER
AND YES I BEAT IT....SO A BASE RSX CAN BEAT A BASE SER....BUT YES
THE SPEC-V WILL BEAT A BASE RSX....it has 175 HP...and a close-ratio 6 speed, BUT A TYPE-S WILL KILL THE SPEC-V , a type-s has 200 hp to the crank, and all it needs is a good launch from a 4500 REV,
because I have seen it at the track....by two good drivers, and everybody knew before hand that the SPEC-V was gonna lose....it didn't even get a jump off the line, yes it has powerful torque, but if the
RSX TYPE-S REV's its engine and peels out, it will get just about the same jump, and once it hits 5500 rpms the spec-v doesn't stand a chance....don't get me wrong, I love the spec-v but don't question my research, because I do alot of it

sr20de4evr
10-07-2003, 10:34 AM
haha, the spec will run a 15.8 best, that's a good one

try 15.8 with an absolute shit for driver, I've seen people run 14.9 bone stock, 14.8 with an intake
the new SI is no competition for anything, it can't even break into the 15's

mjackson23us
10-07-2003, 05:22 PM
DO YOU KNOW HOW TO READ ENGLISH...I SAID THE BASE SER...DUMBASS, not the SPEC-V,,,YOUR AN IDIOT!!!...and YES I BEAT A "BASE" SER SENTRA with 165 HP...READ FUCKIN ENGLISH...YEAH A 2002 CIVIC si CAN NOT BEAT A SPEC-V WITH 175 HP...BUT THE SPEC-V CANNOT RUN IN THE 14's BONE STOCK, SO DO YOUR RESEARCH....HERE IS A SITE TO HELP YOU BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT YOUR A MORON!!!

http://www.modernracer.com/toyotacelicagts.html


by the way...I have over 13 books on spec-s 1/4 miles, and 0-60mph times...some of the times are different, but I checked EVERY BOOK, and the NISSAN SER SPEC-V 175 horse, NEVER HAD A BETTER 0-60mph or 1/4 Mile TIME THAN A TOYOTA CELICA GTS 6-SPEED, OR A ACURA RSX TYPE-S 6-SPEED, so THEREFORE YOU ARE A MORON!...I like the spec-v, but you are an amateur....you prolly think a Geo Metro can run 9's

sr20de4evr
10-07-2003, 05:55 PM
I love it when little people throw hissy fits when people disagree with them...
"A SPEC-V IS SAID TO DO THE 1/4 MILE in 15.8 AT ITS BEST...an RSX TYPE-S can do it in 14.7"
nice job, maybe you should read your own posts before sounding like an idiot, and I think a nice course in elementary grammar would help too. I don't give a rat's ass how many books you have, the truth is magazine testers CANNOT get the best times possible when they test a car. It takes months of daily driving to become familiar enough with a car to get the best times possible. Yes the type-s can do the 1/4 in 14.7 but very VERY few people actually do it. Yes the spec-v can do the 1/4 in 14.9 but very very few people can actually do it. Most very good drivers will get around a 15.1 in a spec and 14.9 in a type-s. If you've ever raced at a track this is pretty damn close, at 90mph, .2s is 26 feet. That means after 15 seconds there's a whopping 12 feet between the back of the type-s and the front of the spec. That is pretty damn close. I said the type-s would win and with equal drivers it will, but it WILL NOT slaughter a spec like you keep saying.

Learn how to type and build up a valid argument before coming back and digging your hole deeper

mjackson23us
10-08-2003, 04:12 PM
OK, what you just posted makes alot of sense, so I retract my previous statement, the skill of the driver does have alot to do with it....sorry for calling you an idiot, but I do research on horsepower to weight ratio, and the gearing of vehicles, but i guess none of that is as important as the person driving the car....I like your picture of your Spec-V, sorry for pissing you off, its just that you pissed me off when you said a Spec-V could beat a Toyota Celica GTS (my car) because I have smoked many spec-v's on the freeway and on the street....but I'm sure if you don't know how to drive a celica you could lose easy....A celica seems to me to be alot harder to drive than a spec-v in that you only get the 180hp at higher rpm's requiring you to shift as fast as possible and push redline....where as a spec-v has so much torque and horsepower, you could drive simple and still be getting good acceleration....anyways, i think we just had a mis-communication problem, but what you are saying now is making more sense to me...sorry for jumpin the gun

mjackson23us
10-08-2003, 04:17 PM
by the way, if that is a picture of your SER SENTRA....the rims look like the "BASE" SER rims, is that a SPEC-V, or a Regular SER version....and is it a 5 speed manual,, or an automatic....the Spec-v only comes in a 6-speed, but with 17inch rims ....your look like 16's

sr20de4evr
10-08-2003, 04:21 PM
I completely believe that you have beaten numerous specs on the freeway, they aren't much of a top end monster. With the help of the lsd and massive low end torque the spec gets its jump off the line where most other cars fall back a bit. Depending on how each person launched, the type-s or gts would then start to pull and eventually pass because they have better top ends. If you do a highway run the spec loses its advantage and the type-s will jump ahead and keep pulling, and I'm sure the gts would as well. No hard feelings

Peace

BTW - I don't have a spec, it's an SE ;)

mjackson23us
10-08-2003, 11:22 PM
you have a 2.0 liter engine in the SE, or is that a 2.5, because now they are putting the 2.5 in alot of the Sentra's, and it is almost cheaper to buy a 2.5 with a 5 speed hand fix it up to be faster than to buy a spec-v , but the spec-v does have that 6 speed, its not all that necessary considering the massive torque it has, but the close-ratio 6-speed is NECESSARY in my GTS, otherwise I would fall out of the 6000 rpm powerband, if I push redline to 8100 or 8200 rpm just before the rev limiter I can shift fast enough to 2nd and it chirps right into 6200 rpms which is perfect...3rd 4th and 5th are easy to stay within these limits...but yeah a spec-v does have the advantage off the line with all that torque....they said that on the test car they had it in first gear and were cruising about 15 mph, floored the gas and the Spec-V still lights the tires up immediately....

mjackson23us
10-08-2003, 11:24 PM
yeah the limited slip differential must help, does a gts have that?...does it even need it?

blasian_man
10-08-2003, 11:28 PM
i believe the SE uses to sr20, or atleast a 2.0, since thats what many of them say right next to the se, just like the altima does, the 2.5 now comes in the 2004 models with an auto tranny

sr20de4evr
10-09-2003, 01:40 AM
Yeah it has the sr20, not too fast but with i/h/e it can keep up with or beat the spec-v. They stopped making the SE model in 01 when they trashed the sr20 permanently, now they just have the 1.8 and 2.5 as options.

Limited slip is always necessary on every car :)
On cars with less hp and tq it's not that helpful on straightline driving, but when pulling out of a corner you just nail the gas and it sucks you out of the corner instead of understeering into the curb. It's also helpful in rain or those accidental off roading adventures that I somehow find myself in occasionally, lol.

I've never driven a spec, but I believe it could light up the tires just cruising along in first and nailing the gas. If I punch it in my car it'll accelerate until the rpm gets up to about 5k and then the tires break loose, and the qr25 has a hell of a lot more torque than I do. Then again my tires are complete and total crap, it probably wouldn't do that if I got some quality rubber on there.

Strider Negro
10-11-2003, 10:32 PM
forgive me for asking but why does the spec v not have top end power like the celica gts and the rsx type s????
i would assume that the continous variable valve timing would help it achieve low and top end
but that's just my assumption
please correct me if I am wrong...

sr20de4evr
10-12-2003, 05:05 PM
it's just not built the same. It has to do with every aspect of the engine, they built the qr25 to have lots of low end power so they could stick it in the heavy altima and be set. Then they decided to bring back the SE-R badge for the sentra and they simply put the qr25 in it because it was a nice fit. The bore/stroke, cam degree, timing, everything was set up for low end power.

Strider Negro
10-13-2003, 12:20 AM
so which engine has high end power than????
what is the top speed of the spec v???

sr20de4evr
10-13-2003, 12:35 AM
what do you mean which engine has high end power?
lots of engines have high end power, mostly honda, but lots of others do too. The mazda rotary has a lot of hp and not much tq, but it's for a completely different reason.

top speed of the spec is around 135ish

Strider Negro
10-13-2003, 02:59 PM
which nissan engine has the highest rev limit...

sr20de4evr
10-13-2003, 08:43 PM
hell if I know...lol

there are too many to think back to the one with the highest redline. If I were to guess anything I'd say the b13-b14 se-r with the non-rr sr20. I think it had a rev limit of 7500rpm but I could be wrong.

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