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67 Camaro with 63 Vette Engine Conversion


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Kasso
09-25-2003, 05:54 PM
i recently bought the AMT/ERTL 67 Camaro kit. I had a 63 Corvette Stingray engine left over from an old stripped model. so i thought, "why dont i do an engine conversion?" this is the first time im gonna do custom stuff to a model. right now, i'm fixing up the engine to fit. I'm planning to make a super street Drag Car with a supercharger, and racing slicks. BTW...my digicam is pretty old (i think less than 1 megapixel) but i'll try to get pictures up by this weekend.

Kasso
09-25-2003, 11:18 PM
Heres a pic of the kit box:
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camarobox.jpg
and here's the 63 Vette engine:
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/63vetteengine.jpg
Those headers are the camaro drag headers. i have to strip the paint off the block, and repaint it. i think i might keep it "Chevy Orange." ill try to get better pictures from a real digital camera later on. i know the quality is really really bad but this is from a web cam.

Sebstar
09-26-2003, 08:31 AM
love the idea! cant wait to see that chrome supercharger sticking out the bonnet! :evillol:
keep us updated!

EMAXX
09-26-2003, 09:01 AM
The idea is very cool. Lets see you pull it off now.

Kasso
09-26-2003, 08:26 PM
heres a pic of the engine bay:
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/enginebay1.jpg
another:
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/enginebay2.jpg
The rims im gonna use:
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/rims.jpg

The engine in the engine bay has the stock camaro oil pan right now. as you can see, thats a problem cuz the engine would be too far back then. im gonna have to put back the 63 oil pan.

Also if you're wondering why i would put the vette engine in the camaro... the 63 Corvette Stingray is arguably the fastest factory production Corvette ever made because it was produced before the strict emissions laws. some will say that the Z-06 is the fastest but the 63 vette is slightly faster.

Purpura Delujo
09-26-2003, 09:29 PM
You will need to lower the front alot if you want it to look extremely mean! I like the idea your going for and wish you the best of luck!

Sebstar
09-26-2003, 09:57 PM
you know what you need! A HUGE F*** OFF Supercharger :D

love the drag car look though :sunglasse

Kasso
09-27-2003, 10:38 AM
you know what you need! A HUGE F*** OFF Supercharger :D

love the drag car look though :sunglasse
it is huge...its just that the engine sits to deep in the bay. ill have to fix that so the supercharger and the blower both stick out.

Bloodhound
09-28-2003, 08:12 AM
:screwy: you're mad. this is gonna be pretty tricky to pull off, best of luck to ya! should look incredible when it's finished.

tonioseven
09-28-2003, 10:50 AM
With the right color, this will be awesome!! How's the fitment of the basic body pieces? :smile:

Kasso
09-28-2003, 01:13 PM
With the right color, this will be awesome!! How's the fitment of the basic body pieces? :smile:
to tell you the truth...its going easier than expected. my major concern will be the suspension (lowering the front, raising the rear), and i might have to cut the rear wheel well cuz the slicks keep getting stuck. ooo and i plan to paint this car semi-gloss black. that and pure white are my only options but i dont think white will do a muscle car justice.

right now im taking apart the block, stripping the paint, sanding everything down, putty everything up, and im gonna have to re-glue everything and re-paint. updates later.

Kasso
09-28-2003, 06:38 PM
heres some progress:
engine and oilpan with putty:
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/engineputty.jpg

painted the headers aluminum:
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/aluminumheaders.jpg
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/aluminumheaders2.jpg

Purpura Delujo
09-28-2003, 10:51 PM
Looking good! I think that White would be a better option, white looks really clean on 1st Gen F-Bodies, but it is up to you. If you need to make that blower stick out of the bonnet make a custom high rise manifold out of styrene sheets or just flat plastic.

Kasso
09-28-2003, 11:07 PM
Looking good! I think that White would be a better option, white looks really clean on 1st Gen F-Bodies, but it is up to you. If you need to make that blower stick out of the bonnet make a custom high rise manifold out of styrene sheets or just flat plastic.
well actually, i would paint it white but...
i kinda accidentally messed up the black stripe decals which would go with a white body.

KP60
10-09-2003, 10:34 AM
Nice conversion.
Do you have any progress?

Kasso
10-09-2003, 02:35 PM
Nice conversion.
Do you have any progress?
sorry for not posting in a while. i've been extremely busy with 5 papers to hand in, in addition to studying for the SAT's. i did paint the engine block, though (sorry no pics). i dont like the way it came out. its too dark to be "Chevy Orange." i have to mix some white into my orange and re paint it.

Purpura Delujo
10-10-2003, 01:30 AM
Just dont put on stripes, make it a plain looking Camaro, besides a nice big chrome tower of power coming through the bonnet

86_SR5
10-11-2003, 08:24 PM
I've had the supercharger and intake before...mine came with a 67AMT GTO. Now it sits on a flourescent orange 350 smallblock, in my engine bag....btw I have about 6 sb's and 15 bb's (ford and chevy) if anyones interested i can sell real cheap.

Kasso
10-12-2003, 07:48 PM
progress...
engine repainted
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/chevyorange.jpg

some problems...
i hate the way that AMT molds the "Camaro" logo into the side of the body. I might have to shave it off. also, do you guys think i should shave the door handles?
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/sidecloseup.jpg

one of the window pillars broke. this might've occured in storage. any ideas on how i can fix this?
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/brokenframe.jpg

heres a major problem that i need help with.
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/leafspring.jpg
how can i raise the rear suspension without messing up the differential alignment??

blueboost
10-12-2003, 08:10 PM
pull the leaf springs and rear diff off and throw some styrene sheet under it where it glue's on. (see red marks) thats really the only feasible way I can see from here. using that method, the thickness of the styrene will be exactly the same as the amount of lift you will achieve.

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/blueboost/images/suspension.bmp

Kasso
10-12-2003, 08:18 PM
pull the leaf springs and rear diff off and throw some styrene sheet under it where it glue's on. (see red marks) thats really the only feasible way I can see from here. using that method, the thickness of the styrene will be exactly the same as the amount of lift you will achieve.

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/blueboost/images/suspension.bmp
the only problem is, being an AMT/ERTL model, the leaf springs are attached to the axel and diff. i might have to "engineer" a new suspension.

blueboost
10-12-2003, 08:23 PM
i knew they were one solid piece. so basically you want the diff to remain exactly where its located at this moment and still raise the ride height? :dunno:

Kasso
10-12-2003, 08:30 PM
i knew they were one solid piece. so basically you want the diff to remain exactly where its located at this moment and still raise the ride height? :dunno:
its kinda tricky, i know. but how do you make the muscle car stance on a real car? is the drive shaft placed at an angle? or does it remain parallel to the chassis? cuz if its at an angle, then im stressing over nothing.

blueboost
10-12-2003, 08:32 PM
it would be more angled. the diff and axle will raise and lower with the rest of the rear suspension. so you would be ok to go about it the original way ;)

Kasso
10-12-2003, 08:36 PM
it would be more angled. the diff and axle will raise and lower with the rest of the rear suspension. so you would be ok to go about it the original way ;)
alright. thanks.

Toyotagt1
10-12-2003, 09:12 PM
keep your effort!!!

Kasso
10-12-2003, 11:07 PM
after about an hour of measuring, cutting, sanding, and puttying, i came up with this.
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/rearraised.jpg

so now that i got that fixed, what should i do about the window pillar and "Camaro" logos, and door handles?

Purpura Delujo
10-13-2003, 03:31 AM
Logo and Handles - Whatever you like, it's up to you for what it will look like in overall appearence ;)

'A' pillar - I just used a little bit of superglue on my Trans Am when it broke, but just be careful with it, you might want to wait until you have something to stick in to reinforce it without interuptting the fitment of the windscreen.

86_SR5
10-13-2003, 06:06 PM
Well, in my opinion, i like to see the fat tires tucked up under the wells, keeping the rear at stock ride height, but that looks good.

Kasso
10-13-2003, 06:40 PM
Well, in my opinion, i like to see the fat tires tucked up under the wells, keeping the rear at stock ride height, but that looks good.
maybe next time. im already planning to buy the same kit to make the 2 Fast 2 Furious Yenko.

Kasso
10-13-2003, 06:41 PM
Well, in my opinion, i like to see the fat tires tucked up under the wells, keeping the rear at stock ride height, but that looks good.
maybe next time. im already planning to buy the same kit to make the 2 Fast 2 Furious Yenko. for $5 u cant go wrong.

Kasso
10-16-2003, 05:36 PM
i hate the damn shocks that came with the kit. they're attached to the thing that connects to the wheels. so i decided to use some styrene rods to create some new beefier shocks.
http://home.nyc.rr.com/kasso/webpics/camaro/shocks.jpg

what color scheme should i use for the shocks? (the car will be semi-gloss black)
:feedback:

86_SR5
10-16-2003, 08:02 PM
shocks???? on the front?????:eek7: Don't you mean springs, simply because that's what they are. I usually do the rods or inside of the coils in black, and the outside silver, red, or any color that looks good.

Kasso
10-16-2003, 09:09 PM
shocks???? on the front?????:eek7: Don't you mean springs, simply because that's what they are. I usually do the rods or inside of the coils in black, and the outside silver, red, or any color that looks good.
no...there are shocks there... i said coil-overs, which means a coil (spring) over [shocks]. springs would be if i kept it w/out the rod inside, but i need it for support since the coils are made from solder.

86_SR5
10-16-2003, 09:54 PM
Oh, i wasnt aware that those, well any vehicle with that sort of suspension had shocks. My SS had a suspension similar and had coils, a arms, and drop spindles.

86_SR5
10-19-2003, 05:46 PM
Any updates yet on this project?

Kasso
10-19-2003, 05:53 PM
Any updates yet on this project?
yes. ill take some puctures later on. turns out that the lifted rear looks retarded. i'll have to add lift some other way.

CamaroSSBoy346
10-19-2003, 10:30 PM
I say build something like this...

http://www.afxnscaleresin.150m.com/images/67%20Camaro_mojo.jpg

http://www.afxnscaleresin.150m.com/images/67%20Camaro_mojo_2.jpg

or

http://www.afxnscaleresin.150m.com/images/R.Schreiner_Camaro_2.jpg

http://www.afxnscaleresin.150m.com/images/R.Schreiner_Camaro.jpg

BTW, the cowl hoods can be bought @ http://www.afxnscaleresin.150m.com

Kasso
10-20-2003, 07:14 AM
im gonna build a "street illegal" drag car that looks pretty much stock except for the stance, blower, and the slicks.

Kasso
10-22-2003, 07:08 AM
i think im gonna put this project on hold for now. i have to work on my 300zx and help my brother with his FATF Supra and GTO. plus i need some styrene, and before that, i need some money. :disappoin

86_SR5
10-22-2003, 06:53 PM
Do what you can, and keep us updated even if all you did is decide on new wheels or something.

Kasso
01-17-2004, 11:12 PM
***UPDATES***

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/84684newinterior-med.jpg

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/84684newinterior3-med.jpg

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/84684newinterior2-med.jpg

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/84684diamondplate-med.jpg


I know its been a very long time but im just being re-inspired for this project. the whole interior has been chopped away. i added some HO Scale Train diamond plate. The racing seat was provided by nis.k.a. but the seat belts were molded in so i had to cut 2mm thick masking tape and i painted them red and use that instead. the actual buckles were just painted in and the metal adjusters are made from styrene. the N2O bottle was provided by Import Builder and im going to use the NOS decal from the FATF supra and the sparco decals for the seat as the seat is a model of the Sparco "Rev" (http://www.sparcousa.com/pseats_comp.asp?id=84). the racing helmut is from my parts box as well as the fire extinguisher (which will be repainted red). the steering wheel is from a diecast and i cut out the center and replaced it with styrene to replicate a detachable racing wheel. Also, the pedals were completely scratch built out of styrene sheet and they're mounted like that because i got inspired by the enzo im building:smokin:.
My plan for the body is to have the front end removable. and i am going to make a cowl induction hood, or whatever its called.(the one CamaroSSBoy346 has on his cars).

Kasso
01-18-2004, 02:17 PM
Wow! u guys are really supportive! thanks a lot...:disappoin

Honoturtle
01-18-2004, 02:33 PM
Wow! u guys are really supportive! thanks a lot...:disappoin
Sorry, didn't get a chance to view your model yet.

That front end is going to look cool. Are allowing it to tilt foward, or just removable? BTW, I really like the diamond plate!

Kasso
01-18-2004, 02:57 PM
fully removable. my brother is helping me with the engine at the moment.

86_SR5
01-18-2004, 04:14 PM
I thought I responded to this? Oh well, here goes: Nice diamond plate addition, stuff is nice, but 4.5 usd is too expensive for a 7x7 sheet. I like the steering wheel, but the pedals look a little odd in a muscle car, but it's cool. BTW, can you post a pic of the underside of the tranny?

Kasso
01-18-2004, 08:01 PM
i would show the underside, but i have to put the engine in first. and i need some styrene rod to custom fab a roll cage thats extended to the engine bay.

86_SR5
01-18-2004, 08:06 PM
I asked to see the underbelly of the tranny, because I wanted to know if the tranny has an oil pan on it or not. If it does, your pedals are wrong, the gm tranny with an oil pan is an auto, and the one without is a manual.

Kasso
01-19-2004, 01:59 AM
oo. the oil pan is under the engine block not the tranny. and it is manual because the pedals were molded in and i sanded them off and the engine came from a manual vette.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/84684tranny-med.jpg

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/846842vette-med.jpg
2 monster corvette engines side by side:iceslolan:naughty:

off topic...
interior and dash of a porsche 911 Carrera i am building
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/84684dash-med.jpg

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/84684interior-med.jpg

86_SR5
01-19-2004, 01:00 PM
that's cool. I was just checking to be sure. automatics have transmission oil pans built into the bottom. manuals don't. nice carrera interior.

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