Ok, I know most of you are getting tired of V35 Skyline questions. But I more want to make sure of everything. When I browse the different threads, everything is very spread out and unorganized. So I want to make sure that what I know is the truth.

-It is based on the USDM Infiniti G35 Sport Coupe/ Sedan

-It is not called the R35, rather the V35

-It used to be called R32, R33, and R34 because it used an RB engine, now it's called V35 because of the VQ engine

-It uses the same 280/ 260 horsepower 3.5 DOHC V6 of the G35

-In a few years, there will be a GT-R V35, with AWD, and a twin-turbo VQ35DETT, producing 400 horsepower.

If any of you could point out if I am wrong with any of these, please do.

Thanks in advance,

-Chris

-It is based on the USDM Infiniti G35 Sport Coupe/ Sedan

-It is not called the R35, rather the V35

-It used to be called R32, R33, and R34 because it used an RB engine, now it's called V35 because of the VQ engine

-It uses the same 280/ 260 horsepower 3.5 DOHC V6 of the G35

-In a few years, there will be a GT-R V35, with AWD, and a twin-turbo VQ35DETT, producing 400 horsepower.


1. The V35 Skyline sedan is basically the G35 Sedan. There is different badging, trim levels, and a couple different drivetrain choices(smaller engines and awd in Japan), but that's it. The same goes for the Skyline Coupe and G35 Coupe.

2. We don't know whether the GT-R will be called the V35 or not. My personal theory on this is that due to the rumor about the Skyline and GT-R names being separated, the new 'V' designation was created for the Skyline, while the 'R' designation will remain for the GT-R.

3. The 'R' chassis designation had nothing to do with the engine. Some of the R31 Skylines for example, used a CA18 4-banger, iirc. Look at the progression of the Z cars for more examples. The Z31 and Z32 both used VG motors, but the new Z33 uses the VQ motor. No change.

4. The top level V35 Skyline uses the VQ35DE engine from the G35, and is rated at '276hp.' There are also VQ25DE variants as well.

5. The next GT-R could show up as early as 2005. Powerplants are unknown at this point. Rumors and speculation point to anything from a VQ33DETT or VQ35DETT, an NA VKxxDE(Infiniti's V8) for the US market, or even a VKxxDETT.

Alright, thanks a bunch then.

And a suggestion. Someone please, for the love of god, make this thread sticky, and don't allow any other threads speculating about the next GTR.

Please.

Done.

A quick note: Only facts in this thread. No speculations, horry or photoshoped images, computer generated images from mags, etc. You do and not only will I delete your post, but you will be officialy warned
:nono:

Maybe some of that day you've been heremight have been used in checking who the moderators are. That would include Razor. He moderates this forum. His job is to stopthe whingeing and bitching that tends to plague this forum. (For a good example, see your own post.)

(Vince, if you want to delete this post along with the last one, feel free. I just had to respond :D )

The Vq35dett is stronger probability for now.

The engine will be tuned by cosworth.
The suspensions and chasis will be tuned by lotus.

Nissan is trying to keep this car under 60K :biggrin:

Still arguing if this is going to carry either Nissan or Infiniti badge.

The name will probably simply called "GTR," not "Skyline GTR," though in japan I'm sure they are skyline GTR anyways, but for markets outside Japan at least.

From japanese magazines...

So, the bottom line is, the awesome dynasty of the Nissan Skyline R30-R34 is over? I mean without the RB26, the Skyline won't be as good. Yeah there are better engines out there, but the Skyline got famous with the RB's. (RB25 and RB26) Yeah, it'll the the name Skyline, but will it truly be one? I mean the Silvia got famous with the SR engine, the RX-7 hit big with the twin rotary(Which i am still having trouble finding out how that damn thing works.) And, although not a top name sports car, the Sebring is a well known eco car. Same with the Civic.(was made to be a family car, but a bunch of "Rice Boys" got bored) So what's a Skyline without an RB?

The Skyline is still a Skyline, a family of sporty/luxurious sedans and coupes. The GT-R just happens to be the performance model. Not all R-chassis Skylines had an RB, either. Some R30s used the CA18 4cyl.

Was the Skyline famous as an R30 or 31? no, it went big as R32 and up. which all had RB's.

The R30 also used the FJ20DET.

True Skyline connesuirs(sp?) will also know that the KPGC10, KPGC110, and C110 Skylines from the late 60s/early 70s were considered the best handling Skylines ever, including the R32-R34. They used 2.0L Straight six engines with ITBs and mechanical fuel injection.

The only reason you think the R32-R34 Skylines are the best is because thats all you hear about. Oh no, its not in ImportTuner, or GT3 so it cant be good.

Did you know that the R31 GTS-R, with a 2.0L engine is still as quick as an R32 GTR.

Was the Skyline famous as an R30 or 31? no, it went big as R32 and up. which all had RB's.
The GTR made the R32+ line what it was- the RB had nothing to do with it- the other half that made the R32+ big was Gran Turismo- without Gran Turismo or the GTR- then the Skyline'd just be another whacky-domestic Japanese car............

I was very disheartend when I heard the news that the skyline would be no more and the GT-R concept may be the replacement. I did not want to fathom that this euro...thing was a nissan. What was more of a shock was that they replace the most popular Japanes car ever. If they do come in 2007 than want nothing to do with it. please help me understand what is going to happen.

I was very disheartend when I heard the news that the skyline would be no more and the GT-R concept may be the replacement.
What are you talking about? The Skyline still exists. In Japan, you can buy it as a 217hp VQ25-powered 250GT sedan, '276hp' VQ35-powered 350GT sedan, and both are available with ATESSA-ETS. There is also a 350GT Skyline coupe. In the US, the Skyline is sold as the G35 sedan and G35 coupe. Specs for the MY 2007 GT-R variant are yet to be announced.

I did not want to fathom that this euro...thing was a nissan. What was more of a shock was that they replace the most popular Japanes car ever.
Deal with it. Cars get replaced and improved on. The V35 Skyline is an improvement on the R34 model in almost every way. Customers and the press love it. If you had an open mind and could afford one, you probably would too.

If they do come in 2007 than want nothing to do with it
Even if you can buy a GT-R and decide not to, Nissan will find plenty of other buyers.

so what your saying is that the skyline will not be replaced in japan or will it be the V35 too.
http://www.jbskyline.net/V35/GTR/V35%20GT-R%20Concept%20front%20left2.jpg?SSImageQuality=Ful l (http://www.jbskyline.net/V35/GTR/Showroom/Bilder/Bild2.php)
http://www.jbskyline.net/V35/GTR/Showroom/Bilder/V35%20GT-R%20Concept%20Interior%202.jpg?SSImageQuality=Full if this is not it than get a pic that has it:disappoin

That is the GT-R concept, not a Skyline.

The V35 is the new Skyline...not the Skyline GT-R.
http://skyline.nissan.co.jp/index2.html

The next GT-R will come in 2007. It will not look like the concept picture you posted, according to Hiroshi Tamura, Nissan's product planner for the R34 and the upcoming GT-R.


P.S. You do realize that the GT-R is only part of an entire Skyline family, right?

Thanks for the help but there is a plain skyline (non-GT-R) I saw it on cardomain theres an entier section on it and then theres the GT-S.

but when the skyline hits the USA will it look like the V35 or are you not sure.

The GT-S is one of the "plain," or non-GT-R Skylines.

The V35 is only the Skyline sedan. The next GT-R will not look like it(it will be 2-door), nor will it look like the GT-R concept you posted.

where did u get the information that the actual v35 coming out in 2007 will not look like that?

The February '03 issue of the British magazine car had an article. It featured Hiroshi Tamura, aka "Mr. GT-R," Nissan's product planner for the R34 and the upcoming GT-R. He stated that the GT-R concept from 2001 was only a concept.

The December '03 issue of evo, another British magazine, mentions how Carlos Ghosn informed the press at the Tokyo Motor Show about the delay for the GT-R. Nissan had been so busy with producing new bread and butter cars, SUVs, and trucks(especially for the US), that they did not have the ability to work on the new GT-R too. The article also says that Lotus was mentioned as a collaborator in the development of the new GT-R.

i made a post about this in the US forum, but it seems the new GTR will be coming in 2007, preceded by a quick showing at the Toyko auto salon.

it seems although the skline was produced, the GTR was abondoned for a little while becasue nissan was busy redesigning the nissan/infinity lineup.

the concept car some guy posted is ONLY a concept, but the real design will most likely be made around that concept.

Something I just noticed yesterday. The Skyline debuted in 1955. It'd be a pity for the new GTR to be delayed till 2007, really. 2005 would be much better; to mark the 50th anniversary.

I guess they're choosing the 40th anniversary of the GTR instead (I think that was 1967)

Actually no - I think it was 1969, so they're not even going for an anniversary year :(

http://www.myevo.com/15-R35GTR.jpg

Is this real? Or is it just a GTR that got messed with?

That's a photoshop, and a very old one at that.

At 2003 Tokyo auto show, Gosn announced that New GTR will revive with all Nissan got at 2007. Reading the Option magazine, it sounds like Nissan is going all out on this car, trying to regain the Real GTR back into Skylines again.

As for me that sound good cause I will not be ready to afford one until then :rofl:

To be more precise, 1st gen, ALSI debuted at 1957. The GTR from the skyline lineup debuted at 1969

the skyline name continues only it has a new chassis (v35) but this car is called the nissan skyline 350gt (g35 in US) the new GT-R will not be based on the V35 but will still carry the 'R' just like the previous gt-r's like r32 and so on, but is said to have a vq engine twin turbo to produce about 450 hp, along with the suspension being work on by Lotus.

1. The V35 Skyline sedan is basically the G35 Sedan. There is different badging, trim levels, and a couple different drivetrain choices(smaller engines and awd in Japan), but that's it. The same goes for the Skyline Coupe and G35 Coupe.

2. We don't know whether the GT-R will be called the V35 or not. My personal theory on this is that due to the rumor about the Skyline and GT-R names being separated, the new 'V' designation was created for the Skyline, while the 'R' designation will remain for the GT-R.

3. The 'R' chassis designation had nothing to do with the engine. Some of the R31 Skylines for example, used a CA18 4-banger, iirc. Look at the progression of the Z cars for more examples. The Z31 and Z32 both used VG motors, but the new Z33 uses the VQ motor. No change.

4. The top level V35 Skyline uses the VQ35DE engine from the G35, and is rated at '276hp.' There are also VQ25DE variants as well.

5. The next GT-R could show up as early as 2005. Powerplants are unknown at this point. Rumors and speculation point to anything from a VQ33DETT or VQ35DETT, an NA VKxxDE(Infiniti's V8) for the US market, or even a VKxxDETT. :iagree:

Whatever it turns out to be as long as it looks nothing like the concepts front and a bit like the older GT-R's then I'll be happy

Just a small nit pick. Not all R32's had RB engines in them either.

Whatever it turns out to be as long as it looks nothing like the concepts front and a bit like the older GT-R's then I'll be happy

Id have to disagree - The concept just takes some time to get used to, I know I didnt like it in the begining! It has grown on me in the last few years - Id say take some cues from it, and make it a bit more aggressive. Is it just me or do sports cars these days lack a sense of aggressiveness like they did back in the day. I remember the dread of seeing a TT 300zx or Supra in the rear view mirror and pulling over to the right lane just to watch them go by!...SIGH* ;-) One thing is for sure, we are in the eye of the storm! The calmness before a storm...a revival of the Japanese Sports Cars [Return of the RX7, and GT-R, no idea what Toyota plans to throw at us wHybrid Exotic]

Id have to disagree - The concept just takes some time to get used to, I know I didnt like it in the begining! It has grown on me in the last few years - Id say take some cues from it, and make it a bit more aggressive. Is it just me or do sports cars these days lack a sense of aggressiveness like they did back in the day. I remember the dread of seeing a TT 300zx or Supra in the rear view mirror and pulling over to the right lane just to watch them go by!...SIGH* ;-) One thing is for sure, we are in the eye of the storm! The calmness before a storm...a revival of the Japanese Sports Cars [Return of the RX7, and GT-R, no idea what Toyota plans to throw at us wHybrid Exotic]

Yeah, I know what you mean. I liked the GT-R concept right away. I could tell it was on the FM platform, and was glad to know it would be a better balanced car.

You're right about the aggression thing. The 350Z could definitely stand to be a bit more aggressive. It's much better than the concept from 1999, but it could still use a little work.

Toyota's sports car will probably end up being a Lexus. Their LF-C concept should be nice if it has an NA 5L V10 and costs $100k+ like the rumors suggest. The GT-R will probably beat it in several areas though, including tunability, price, and possibly even performance.

No idea what the RX-7 will be like.

No idea what the RX-7 will be like.


mazda re-releasing the rx7 is like nissan re-releasing the r32 GT-R. just like all cars, the rx7 evolved into what we now have as the rx8.

mazda re-releasing the rx7 is like nissan re-releasing the r32 GT-R. just like all cars, the rx7 evolved into what we now have as the rx8.

I should've expressed my thoughts more carefully. Although the final name will not necessarily reflect an rx7 badge, the performance aspects will reflect the Rx7 heritage. The Rx8 is a great sports car, however it will not be mazdas flagship sports car. Although until offically released, it is still a rumor and should be discussed as so.

i am discussing as so....im saying that i think you might be overlooking the rx8, and leaning too much on the past.

but as far as rumors go, mazda has been rumored to be designing a 2 door rx8 that WILL resemble the rx7 TT's performance.

I should've expressed my thoughts more carefully. Although the final name will not necessarily reflect an rx7 badge, the performance aspects will reflect the Rx7 heritage. The Rx8 is a great sports car, however it will not be mazdas flagship sports car. Although until offically released, it is still a rumor and should be discussed as so.

Ok first off the Skyline will be unveiled at the 2007 TAS. That is only 26 months away. So if I can save 2000 a month and cash in my 401k I could pay CA$H. But personally I want one of the last ones built like the GT-R34 V-SPEC II Nur (what an amazing gold paint job!!!) remember what is going to be released here (and when). It is going to be hands down the best engineered and most technologically advanced car on the planet! Just like the playstation2 it will be released first in Japan and trickeled down to the states and surrounding areas. But in all honesty we probably won't see them here in the states until the 2009 model year. remember TAS is in October... and you bet it will be at SEMA in the first week of November... but even just the show is still a long ways away. Keep in mind what was said at the 2002 TAS. "The next skyline will be unveiled next year" and then in 2003 all we got was a cardboard cutout of buck rogers crap with a GTR badge on it. Nissan has made large leaps and bounds in their market share and they again have the recognition they had in the early to mid 90s. I am not sure what is in the books for the next GRT but I have high expectations of many areas. Possibly even a 48V hybrid electric 150 Ft-Lb assist ontop of the 400HP engine. Hummmm... RWD with front electric assist. Sounds a lot like the Nissan cube hybrid system which was recently release but with a bad ass engine to boot!!! Expectations are high for this next evolution of evolution. The GTR-34 is still by most stanards ahead of it's time and it is almost 10 years old now. What can we expect from Nissan and Mr GTR??? I don't know but I am already drooling!!!

Second - the RX-7 is the 2 door sports car and the RX-8 is a really small minivan with a rotary. The RX-7, the true RX-7, will be back in true fassion probably in the same timeline as the GTR. Great competition between rivals.

[QUOTE=jdebauge]The GTR-34 is still by most stanards ahead of it's time and it is almost 10 years old now.

You mean the R33. The R34 came out in 1999.

Specs were released at the 1997 TAS and the car was released at the 1998 TAS. Finalization of development was in 1996. The rest of the time was gearing up for production and minor tweaks. Back then, as if I was so long ago..., car development and prep for production took 3 to 5 years. It is like the SR71 development started in 1957 and was finished in 1962. Development took time.

Today, the Scion XB took 16 months from start to finish, but you get what you engineer. Because the R34 was released to the public in 1999, it didn't exist before that? Power train prototypes were at the Nuremburging in fall of 1997. So I was Rounding up just a little bit to make my point. (and that little word "almost")

I am just trying to remind all of the infants who were still in diapers when this amazing time warp into today's world was released the best cars of the day were beyond dusted... To the point of embarasment... they were outlawed from many tracks becaus they were too fast, it wasn't fair. It was even worse than the last three years of F1 and Ferrari. THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO RACE!!! Only recently has the rest of the automotive industry caught up to where Nissan was in the 90's.

The R34 redefined the market's expectations of a super car. I expect the next version to do the same! Anything less would be a step backwards. The R34 was heavier than the R33 but it is still a much better car. The only reason the R33 and even more so the R32 are loved so much here in the states is because the straight line racing mentality of the USA favored the lighter chasis. Actually drive them and there is no comparison. The track times in Australia show it hands down.

there are 10 types of people. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

Specs were released at the 1997 TAS and the car was released at the 1998 TAS. Finalization of development was in 1996. The rest of the time was gearing up for production and minor tweaks. Back then, as if I was so long ago..., car development and prep for production took 3 to 5 years. It is like the SR71 development started in 1957 and was finished in 1962. Development took time.

Today, the Scion XB took 16 months from start to finish, but you get what you engineer. Because the R34 was released to the public in 1999, it didn't exist before that? Power train prototypes were at the Nuremburging in fall of 1997.

Thanks for clearing that up, but its production run is still from 1998-2003.

hahahahahaha the rx7 and the skyline were NEVER rivals. the rx7 and the gtr never really had a rivaly going, as the skyline was truely out-classing the rx7. the real rivaly was between the gtr and the supra TT.