Ok I'm going to go out on a limb here and get some people angry but I have to get this off my chest.

I'm a life long Ford buyer and have -only- ever bought Ford vehicles. I love them to death.

But I hate when people on these forums claim that Honda/Nissan/et al are all "rice" and "imports" and "not american enough" whereas GM products and Daimler-Chrysler and Ford are?

C'mon. The Honda plant here manufacturers EVERYTHING locally... right down to the seats and bolts are made LOCALLY. 100% American and Canadian. Whereas many of the forementioned "North American" manufacturers ship sh!t off to Mexico and only "assemble" it in the USA.

And yet people are audacious enough to claim that Honda is rice. They employ a large part of my friends. They sustain my local economy.

...its funny how people can seemingly forget that Chevrolet was a french man too. Especially when the war on Iraq rolled around and people claimed to "Buy America" and "Boycott France and all French products"... like apple pie and chevrolet are "American". Honda is more American than Chevrolet in my opinion.

/rant

u got it wrong pal, Honda is an import, if u r sayin that Honda is more american than Chevy, u r a tru domestic ricer. Have u looked in a Honda engine? if u havent, its made in Japan. from wut i see, u r saying that the honda seats are made of american products??? rite, this thread will make no sense and will go now where. im jus bored taking my time to type wut i think of how bad this thread sucks.

u got it wrong pal, Honda is an import, if u r sayin that Honda is more american than Chevy, u r a tru domestic ricer. Have u looked in a Honda engine? if u havent, its made in Japan. from wut i see, u r saying that the honda seats are made of american products??? rite, this thread will make no sense and will go now where. im jus bored taking my time to type wut i think of how bad this thread sucks.

Sorry, there are too many grammar and spelling mistakes I cannot understand anything you type.

u got it wrong pal, Honda is an import, if u r sayin that Honda is more american than Chevy, u r a tru domestic ricer. Have u looked in a Honda engine? if u havent, its made in Japan. from wut i see, u r saying that the honda seats are made of american products??? rite, this thread will make no sense and will go now where. im jus bored taking my time to type wut i think of how bad this thread sucks.


http://www.honda.ca/HondaCorpEng/AboutHonda/HondaCanadaMfg/Welcome+to+HCM.htm

Well you say Honda's are made in Japan but why is there a Manufacturing plant in Ontario? :rolleyes:

u got it wrong pal, Honda is an import, if u r sayin that Honda is more american than Chevy, u r a tru domestic ricer. Have u looked in a Honda engine? if u havent, its made in Japan. from wut i see, u r saying that the honda seats are made of american products??? rite, this thread will make no sense and will go now where. im jus bored taking my time to type wut i think of how bad this thread sucks.



No.. actually you're wrong.

Most of the Japanese manufactures build all their cars here in the US. Its cheaper to build the vehicles here rather than pay all the costs for shipping.

American manufactures have resorted to sending out production of most of the parts to other countries such as Canada and Mexico... and a few others. Which saves them money not having to pay workers in the US top dollar. Unfortunately that means less and less jobs for our own people.

Such as the Camaro it was built in Canada, The Suburban is made in Mexico. I guess that makes Chevy a somewhat Import company. The Toyota Corolla and the Honda Civic...the majority of those are built as far as I know here in the US. Guess that makes them a semi-domestic company?

But as mentioned before the Japanese companies are now building here, which means more jobs for our people and makes for a better economy.

The Import vs Domestic debate was fine say 15 years ago... but now everything is all mixed up the arguement has no weight.

exactly...the lines between import and dometics are only an ilusion now multinational companies took care of that


and about rice....any brand can fall under that category....a civic can be riced up as easily as a neon. Heck you could probably rice up a ferrari(of course you would get stoned to death very fast but you can still do it)

Ok I'm going to go out on a limb here and get some people angry but I have to get this off my chest.

I'm a life long Ford buyer and have -only- ever bought Ford vehicles. I love them to death.

But I hate when people on these forums claim that Honda/Nissan/et al are all "rice" and "imports" and "not american enough" whereas GM products and Daimler-Chrysler and Ford are?

C'mon. The Honda plant here manufacturers EVERYTHING locally... right down to the seats and bolts are made LOCALLY. 100% American and Canadian. Whereas many of the forementioned "North American" manufacturers ship sh!t off to Mexico and only "assemble" it in the USA.

And yet people are audacious enough to claim that Honda is rice. They employ a large part of my friends. They sustain my local economy.

...its funny how people can seemingly forget that Chevrolet was a french man too. Especially when the war on Iraq rolled around and people claimed to "Buy America" and "Boycott France and all French products"... like apple pie and chevrolet are "American". Honda is more American than Chevrolet in my opinion.

/rant
THIS is what I have been preaching all along! My Nissan, as most Nissan's in the U.S. are, was built in Smyrna, Tennessee. The SRT-4 has a motor built in Mexico, and is built by a German-owned company...who's more domestic?

Also, they don't have Sentras in Japan, even as a different name...just cars that carry similar components that can interchange with the U.S. cars. No offense, but the Sentra is more domestic than a Canada-built Camaro, methinks.

Hey what do you know its back. I was starting to get worried its been a couple months.

THIS is what I have been preaching all along! My Nissan, as most Nissan's in the U.S. are, was built in Smyrna, Tennessee. The SRT-4 has a motor built in Mexico, and is built by a German-owned company...who's more domestic?

Also, they don't have Sentras in Japan, even as a different name...just cars that carry similar components that can interchange with the U.S. cars. No offense, but the Sentra is more domestic than a Canada-built Camaro, methinks.
Um, ever heard of the Sunny? That is/was the euro/japanese Sentra. They're still making the B13 Sentra new in Mexico, actually.

But anyhow, it's true, not only are Nissans manufactured in the US, but they're DESIGNED here too, in Cali. Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Isuzu, Suzuki, all employ many, many people here in the states, as do the domestic manufacturers.

It's hard to say "buy American" any more w/ a straight face. I mean, look at the Focus, it's designed in Europe but is considered more "American" than the Altima that was designed in Cali, manufactured in Smyrna, TN with the engine from Descherd.

Honestly, willyc, I was surprised in a VERY good way when I read this thread - I was expecting another "Man U guys R lame cuz you buys that japcrap SUPPPORT Ameirca U pussys you terorist natzi bastrds" because we get a lot of that BS here.

Um, ever heard of the Sunny? That is/was the euro/japanese Sentra. They're still making the B13 Sentra new in Mexico, actually.



LOL. Sorry, I wasn't too clear. I meant the B15 SE-R's/Spec V's.

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I personally am getting sick of the term rice. It has been overused, it is like having too much chrome on a modern car. Rice to me is a car that has been modified but modified poorly in any way regardless of brand. From now on I am going to start calling them shit boxes. I have just had it with the term rice. It has just gotten old.

Bravo Polygon, but we'll have to find another term besides Shitbox, that's a term of reverence in sprint car racing.

(explanation)

Kenny Weld, the late founder of Weld Wheels and one time cocaine dealer was one of the great heroes of sprint racing in the late sixties. His battles at the Knoxville Nationals against the equally great Jan Opperman are the stuff legends are made of. Even Foyt, Unser, and Andretti recognized Weld as one of the greatest on dirt.

His car was known universally as the Shitbox 99.

This thread blows....How bout Domestic vs. IMPORT....Not everything import car is rice, this IS getting rediculous.

Instead of "rice" or "shitbox" you could always use terms pimpmobile, or poo-wagon.

Yeah, this is a rather interesting topic

For instance, my city (san Antonio) is home to the newest Toyota manufacturing plant. Does that mean it's still an import?

I dont get it :confused:

True that whole rice word is so abused now. Hell I get called a rice driver now, FFS :shakehead

The whole thing was started by people pimping thier cars out for show, but never use their car as a show car but a show off car.

As far as the US Domestic and Import thing. That too has gone way overboard. I've owned both in high performance cars and loved both. Yea sure I've been guilty of poking a bit of fun at guys with V8's, but it has been in jest only. That is of course unless you get some prick going who has the mentality of a 14yr old. Then I quite enjoy rocking them up just because I know I can.

in for the drama!!!
Go Subaru!

You guys need to stop arguing over such worthless cars. Save yourselves the drama and buy a Geo, You get the best of both worlds mixed into one powerful machine. :cool:

This argument will never end, as long as there are "ricey" cars and there are domestics they are going to clash because they're so different in the sense of their attitudes. I think the fake-street-racers give the real performance guys a bad image. You take your average 17 year old in a honda civic he just threw k&n's on it, some decals, and goes around revving at camaro's talkin smack and vice versa.

What I don't get is why people confuse modded cars for rice, if your cars all show thats cool, just don't try to race it and expect to win if its slow, I see some really nice modded cars that were done tastefully for show and my friends that are with me start calling it rice. I don't know why but it will never stop.

I agree with Jetta, some people like to have a car that looks hot with a body kit, neons, etc. but doesn't run that well. As long as they know it sucks in a race, then they shouldn't be called a "Ricer." On the other hand, if they have a hot lookin car and try to race it even though it sucks, that's a "Ricer."

Has this discussion not gone on enough times?!?!?! If you don't like all cars eat a dick and get out! Oh yeah, I'm back guys!

:iagree: Has this discussion not gone on enough times?!?!?! If you don't like all cars eat a dick and get out! Oh yeah, I'm back guys! :evillol:

go italian for real cars

You macaroni-boy :rofl: (and don't take offense I'm italian hehe)

Ya go italian...if you cant afford German:loser:


j/k

Ya go italian...if you cant afford German:loser:


j/k


so that would be a FIAT then?

so that would be a FIAT then?

I thought FIAT was french, and they own Ferarri and Maserati.

so that would be a FIAT then?
why are you asking me? its not my sig

I thought FIAT was french, and they own Ferarri and Maserati.


its the closest thing to being a cheap italian car.

seeing as Ferrari and Lamborghini are much more expensive than the german stuff

Not more than the BMW McLaren or Mercedes CLK GTR

Come on D12! 2 cars! I know there are more out there but those are million dollar cars! Luxury+Performance+Style=Italian! Oh, by the way my first and middle name is Tony Vinny...That's right Anthony Vincent! He He!