finally raced a sho a couple days ago, first time. i was pulling out of bp when i heard a car that sounded kinda mean. it was a 95 sho, looked liked that curvy taurus in style. him and his buddy were in the car. i quickly dashed outta bp and caught up to them, and we were driving right down brookpark. we were side by side going speed limit, and just looking at each other's rides. his car sounded pretty mean, i think he had either an aftermarket dual exhaust or a header. but im not sure how sho's regularly sound.

i hit the gas just out of the blue, and went in front of him in the lane to turn onto broadview. that is a great turn, it's usually wide open in front for a good 1/2 mi. i took the turn very slowly, to have him move in the other lane as i was expecting him to do. he took the turn very fast, so i stepped on the gas and it was on. i can tell he was gunning it because his car was loud, and he knew i was gunning it because my car's kinda loud. at about 30 his car jumped ahead to be just about even with mine, then he went almost 1/2 car length at about 50. i could tell it was a stick because his car lunged forward and i could kinda see him shifting. right at about 58 my auto shifts, and i jumped ahead a good 2 car lengths and held for a few seconds, then i'm assuming he stepped on the breaks cause he fell behind a lot.

i wish i had it on video, lol. it was a nice loud and relatively quick race. i was really expecting to lose... im kinda surprised i went ahead. it was cool out prolly in the 60's, that might of helped me.

Good kill, to bad your 240 isnt stick:frown:

hehe not to really say anything but a SHO does the 1/4 in 14.9 stock with a good driver(magazine company).... the 240sx is in the 16's or 17's I think... The SHO has dual exhaust normally, nobody makes headers for the public for them, and it is a japanese engine so it has a rice burner sound to it....if you didn't see anything it could pass off as a Honda almost lolol...

the SHO isn't really a low torque producing engine, its kinda like a KA24det vs a sr20det debate. But that sucker shines on the top end. I'd like to see a race with one up to 140mph and see what happens, they are supposed to be real beasts after 5krpm(7k redline) and they will rape the mustang GT's on a highway..where as the GT has the lowend advantage but the SHO will just pass em up and put buslengths on it if its a race with high MPH.

I dunno I like a SHO and it will rape a 240sx stock for stock. It can probably give a stock sr20det s13 a run for its money but the 240 has a weight advantage. A SHO would be about the only sporty FWD car I would buy.

The 3.0L is an amazing engine, it has a dual stage intake manifold, and its heads are some of the best on any stock car, they say they flow the same cfm as race level aftermarket heads for a LT1 or 5.0L lol.

supercharged SHO's are badass. Most basic level ones put out 300hp or so.... I've seen em over 400. People can also up the displacement to about 3.6L if you stroke it.
:naughty:

WTF is a SHO??

hehe not to really say anything but a SHO does the 1/4 in 14.9 stock with a good driver(magazine company).... the 240sx is in the 16's or 17's I think... The SHO has dual exhaust normally, nobody makes headers for the public for them, and it is a japanese engine so it has a rice burner sound to it....if you didn't see anything it could pass off as a Honda almost lolol...

The way he was describing it, I think he ran the later models with the small-displacement V8's. Those were a tad slower.

it was a 95 sho, looked liked that curvy taurus in style. .

What do you mean Curvy Taurus in Style? Cause if it means what I thinkk your trying to say then it was a 96-98 SHO. Which has a 3.4 V-8 and auto only.

ok i did some research and your right it was probably a 98 or 99 v8 auto.

i attached a pic of what i raced. this is the exact car... same color, look, etc. i thought it was a 95 just because all of the car companies changed the look of their cars in 95.... i guess ford wasn't on the uptake :tongue:

there were so many taurus's over the last many years i had no idea when they started making the curve style....

i know the older sho's are faster. im sure id get assraped if i raced one of those



Good kill, to bad your 240 isnt stick:frown:
tell me about it... my next 240 will be probably be a badass 6 spd

again, what the fuck is a sho? looks like a taurus to me......

again, what the fuck is a sho? looks like a taurus to me......
Ford Taurus SHO...

They stopped making SHO's in 98 so there is no 99 SHO.
An SHO is a Ford Taurus SHO(Super High Output). They started making them in 89. They were Ford Taurus that had Yamaha built DOHC V-6 220hp motors available in auto(3.2L) or 5-speed(3.0), Suspension upgrades, and cosmetic changes to the interior and exterior were also part of it.
They were built to try to steal some market share from the lower entry sports sedans from high quality manufacturers like BMW, MB. In 96 when they revamped the body style of the Taurus the Yamaha engine was dropped for a Ford 3.4liter V-8 and auto tranny only. Although these motors did make more power the newer SHO's were slower cars and the new body style was not as well liked. The 3rd Gen SHO's only lasted 2 years before they were killed do to the first decrease in sales since the SHO's inception.

A SHO would be about the only sporty FWD car I would buy.
what??? you'd rether have an sho over a maxima?

what??? you'd rether have an sho over a maxima?
I'd rather have a 92-95 SHO 5-speed over a Maxima

what??? you'd rether have an sho over a maxima?

Or an SRT-4, or an RSX-S, or a 2003+ Altima, or...

...you get my point;)...

the SHO isn't really a low torque producing engine, its kinda like a KA24det vs a sr20det debate. But that sucker shines on the top end. I'd like to see a race with one up to 140mph and see what happens, they are supposed to be real beasts after 5krpm(7k redline) and they will rape the mustang GT's on a highway..where as the GT has the lowend advantage but the SHO will just pass em up and put buslengths on it if its a race with high MPH.



Well, I dont know about that... the new 4.6 Mustangs are pretty rev happy motors and have a decent top end. The 5.0s were the lowend torque monsters.

SHO = Super High Output I believe.

i killed my friends 95 sho 5 speed consistently in my 95 maxima. don't give them more credit than they deserve. mustang killer? not really.

i would take the 92-94 sho over a same year maxima but once the VQ came out in 95 the sho was old news.

The following isn't a direct quote. it's a couple quotes cut and pasted from the article but it's not manipulated, it's just condensed.
Motor Trend, Road Test, June 1994
"Our tester, a five-speed SE version of this fourth generation of Maxima, produced a blazing 6.6-second 0-60-mph time, and a 15.2-second, 92.4-mph quarter-mile run. Ask us, and we'll tell you how the Maxima SE will whip the Integra GS-R, and Taurus SHO; the new Maxima also shows no mercy on its Nissan stablemates: It'll stomp the normally aspirated 300ZX, and drivers of automatic-transmissioned 300ZX Turbos best not be snoozing when the light goes green.
This demure-looking family car is the quickest Japanese sedan available in the States."

id take a sentra 93' and drop a bluebird SR20det in it, like this guy i know, had a crappy old sentra, went street racing in it beat everyone, it was tiiigghhtt, id rather have a thunderbird over a taurus, slam it with some 19's that thing is a long real lowrider

most of the SHO's were built when the 5.0 was around

I believe the GT stopped using the 5.0 in 1994 or 95... The Sho came out in 1989-1991(Gen1 v6 yamaha) 92-95(GenII v6 yamaha), and Generation III was 96-98.... these also came with a Yamaha engine. A lot of people say its a ford engine but I have heard it is a Yamaha engine as well, and im pretty sure that is what it is. Its a 3.4L DOHC v8 with automatic transmission only.

:nono:

the v6 MTX(manual) SHO is badass.

I would take one of those over ANY FWD car...... Maxima, SRt-4, Vspec SER, whatever....

give me a Quaife Diffrential and I will run circles around all the aboved cars with a 5spd SHO lol........

The SHO isn't really a normal car, it was designed to be a sporty cruiser(these woulda made good cop cars). Now a regular Taurus vs Maxima I would defintely take the Maxima...

SHO's and DOHC max's are about the same speed, Id say a newer maxima would handle better but say a 92Maxima Se 5spd vs a 92 MTX SHO is no comparison.....

when the SHO was introduced in 1989 it was the fastest 4 door in the world
:rofl:

when the SHO was introduced in 1989 it was the fastest 4 door in the world
:rofl:

Nope. Not true. Not even in the U.S.

Outside of the U.S., you have to remember, they had 4-dr Skylines, 4-dr Maserati bi-turbos, among other cars I can't recall.

In the U.S., the SHO can be handily beaten by another Detroit product: the Dodge Spirit R/T, with it's Lotus co-designed turbo motor, not to mention some German (BMW/MB) sedans that could've kept up with the SHO.

If I had a choice between all those cars from 1989 (Stateside cars), I'd get the Spirit.

BTW, the SHO was over-all a better buy than it's older brother the Mustang during those years. Similar acceleration, higher top-end, better-handling, more room and utility...

i killed my friends 95 sho 5 speed consistently in my 95 maxima. don't give them more credit than they deserve. mustang killer? not really.

i would take the 92-94 sho over a same year maxima but once the VQ came out in 95 the sho was old news.

The following isn't a direct quote. it's a couple quotes cut and pasted from the article but it's not manipulated, it's just condensed.
Motor Trend, Road Test, June 1994
"Our tester, a five-speed SE version of this fourth generation of Maxima, produced a blazing 6.6-second 0-60-mph time, and a 15.2-second, 92.4-mph quarter-mile run. Ask us, and we'll tell you how the Maxima SE will whip the Integra GS-R, and Taurus SHO; the new Maxima also shows no mercy on its Nissan stablemates: It'll stomp the normally aspirated 300ZX, and drivers of automatic-transmissioned 300ZX Turbos best not be snoozing when the light goes green.
This demure-looking family car is the quickest Japanese sedan available in the States."

Well maybe your a better driver than your friend. But if both drivers are the same your stock 95 SE will be beat. I laugh at car magazines like Motor Trend, cause they said that in it will whip a SHO but they have a 1/4 mile time of 14.7 listed for a 94 SHO in thier magazine but above you have 15.2 listed for the Maxima. How does that work?

you kids are funny.

nice kill mynismo...


i'm pretty sure you can get headers for the older SHO, and a supercharger, and other fun toys, from places like www.shoshop.com

the older ones were a bit faster, and i always get fucked with by them... usually in dark green...
i've had quite a few encounters with the hunter green SHO's. weird.

the older ones were a bit faster, and i always get fucked with by them... usually in dark green...
i've had quite a few encounters with the hunter green SHO's. weird.
yes i know what you're talking about, there are tons and tons of green sho's around us, first gen ones too. ive never had the priviledge of racing one yet. they're usually older guys too that wanna have fun killing some ricers.



Nope. Not true. Not even in the U.S.

yes. the spirit r/t would beat a sho also... you guys never heard of one? there's one guy with tinted windows and rims on a spirit r/t and he goes around and people think it's some super engine swappd car, he upgraded engine and has a slanted exhaust. it is so wrong. they look just like a regular dodge spirit. that is the ultimate sleeper... id love to save up to get one, they are still around 9000 i think tho.

it's usually never a race for me, they just feel the need to attack me on the highway...

they tend to chicken out over 110. oh well.

two stories about ass holes in green taurus sho's.

1. i was doing like 80 on 480w past state. i speed up, never cops, so i go for speed. i hit 120ish, and this old guy in a GREEN sho catchs me, so i push it a little more and hit 130 and walk on him. i think he chickened out, or hit a limiter or something. BUT... the whole time he was next to me, he was giving me this "you're a stupid punk and i'm going to show you what's up" look... and he was like 40.

2. driving 480e to 71n, i usually fly through there, so i'm doing like 90. guess what color SHO catches up to me... some 24ish thug with his woman in the passenger seat. so i'm just cruising at 90, and he gets up my ass. so i gun it. so does he. then he swerves at me. so i just keep it floored. i got to my w130th exit, and just for good measure, i creep over into his lane, as he's about 1/2 car behind me and then i threw the bird out the window, making sure he couldn't get off the exit with me...

bastards.

and there's a couple more like that, but not that graphic. i was really feeling threatened at that point, and it really worries me.

hell... you're driving a taurus with balls. apparently they're rodeo taurus' (taurus is the bull in astronomy) with their balls tied and their pissed.

whatever. losers.



DISCLAIMER FOR THIS POST
(and i know you'll flame me for calling these guys losers after i'm flying on the highway and swerved at them, but i'm pretty sure that they deserved it. so i'm not going to tolerate anyone flaming me. and besides, if you read my posts, you'll know that i don't do things that aren't deserved)

Stock automatic SHOs top-out at a verified 140mph.

Well maybe your a better driver than your friend. But if both drivers are the same your stock 95 SE will be beat. I laugh at car magazines like Motor Trend, cause they said that in it will whip a SHO but they have a 1/4 mile time of 14.7 listed for a 94 SHO in thier magazine but above you have 15.2 listed for the Maxima. How does that work?
i've never seen them quote a sho at 14.7 and i don't believe that time anyway, but i've driven my friends car before and it's definitely not as fast as a VQ maxima. have you ever drive a 95-99 maxima? you'd be surprised by it's ability.

they tend to chicken out over 110. oh well.

my spedo only goes up to 115.... lucky

Stock automatic SHOs top-out at a verified 140mph.

not sure what that's in reference to, just that i noted some speeds that i did in that encounter...

not too worried about what speed i was going...

more interesting is that people tend to chicken out over 110... maybe i'm just a bit more "reckless" or i trust myself with my car...

oh well...

more interesting is that people tend to chicken out over 110... maybe i'm just a bit more "reckless" or i trust myself with my car...

oh well...
if by reckless you mean crazy. do you really, honestly question why people don't race to over 110 mph? does the word "death" sound familiar or how about the term "jaws of life"?

not to mention of you double the limit it's an automatic arrest. if a cop simply wrote someone a ticket for doubling the posted limit he'd lose his job. not to mention that nothing is proven by racing to that high of a speed anyway. a car could do 0-60 in 15 seconds and still top out at over 150 mph.
i read you "disclaimer" and i ain't tryin to clown you but you think something like that'd be obvious.

i've never seen them quote a sho at 14.7 and i don't believe that time anyway, but i've driven my friends car before and it's definitely not as fast as a VQ maxima. have you ever drive a 95-99 maxima? you'd be surprised by it's ability.

Sorry to tell you it's there and just cause you chose to not believe it doesn't make it not true. How do you know it's not as fast just by driving it? You can't tell if one car is faster than another just by driving it when there are both low 15 high 14 second cars.
Yes my brother in-law own a 98 Maxiam SE 5-speed. I think SHO is faster but I won't use that just cause I think it feels faster doesn't mean it is.

well, that's great but i gave a quoted review from a respected magazine, you're just pulling numbers out of your ass and saying the'yre true. gimme proof and maybe i'll believe it. and if you can't tell what car is faster by driving them both yourself, then how else are you gonna tell?

does the word "death" sound familiar or how about the term "jaws of life"?
lol. maybe im a pansy but the most i'll go up to now is 110. it takes me a while to get up there, that's why.
not to mention of you double the limit it's an automatic arrest. if a cop simply wrote someone a ticket for doubling the posted limit he'd lose his job.
that's not true at all.

<ahem>

i got caught racing going 60 in a 25 and he just gave both of us speeding tickets. maybe he was a cool young cop, but maybe not...

you got lucky. the laws may be different, but in NY a speed contest ticket alone is automatic suspenison of your license. i think it's like 3 months. and maybe there is a minimum speed limit, but I was told by a cop that doubling the limit could result in a suspended license

nah... we get 12 points over two years i thnk... and drag racing is ONLY 6 pts.

:redface:

i got 6 on my name now which sucks..

My friend has a green SHO 1995 bone stock. He took me for a drive in it today. We first went for 0-60mph. It was sort of fast. Then we want on the highway and he said this is were the SHO is fast. So we want from 60-120mph. It was not greatly fast but it got up the road ok. He told me he ran a 15.3 at the track. I forget the mph. He says he can beat my Supra and i just let him keep on talking for now. I have 850 miles on the new motor and waiting for 1500 miles to kill him.

My mods are

K&N FI Pk
HKS blowoff valve
Magna spark plug wires
550cc Injectors (If i go bigger turbo i might go with 720cc)
T3/T4 turbo (engine done now dirt poor but still. T-66 all the way)
Turbo elbow
Spearco Innercooler
Hks exhaust & test pipe and Down pipe
No cats
Exaust cut-off
fuel pump and manual pressure regulator
Lexus/REMI air fuel management system
Clutch Master stage 3
Fluidine radiator
Greddy boost controler
Gauges to monitor everything
Eibach Springs
KONI Struts

well, that's great but i gave a quoted review from a respected magazine, you're just pulling numbers out of your ass and saying the'yre true. gimme proof and maybe i'll believe it. and if you can't tell what car is faster by driving them both yourself, then how else are you gonna tell?


It's in the back of Road &Track on the last page that has 1/4, 0-60, Skipad and a shit load of other things and a ton of cars. If you think you can tell the difference between a car that runs 14.9 and 15.2 just by driving it your talking out your ass.

It's in the back of Road &Track on the last page that has 1/4, 0-60, Skipad and a shit load of other things and a ton of cars. If you think you can tell the difference between a car that runs 14.9 and 15.2 just by driving it your talking out your ass.

what i'm saying is that maybe your precious sho doesn't run a 14.9 (i thought you said 14.7?), your inconsitency tends to make me think you're talking out YOUR ass. not to mention i don't know anyone that has road and track magazines laying around from 1995.so i still think you're bull shittin me.

what i'm saying is that maybe your precious sho doesn't run a 14.9 (i thought you said 14.7?), your inconsitency tends to make me think you're talking out YOUR ass. not to mention i don't know anyone that has road and track magazines laying around from 1995.so i still think you're bull shittin me.


I didn't say a SHO runs a 14.9. I said 14.7. I just threw up 14.9 and 15.2 as examples of your ridiculousness, if you think you can tell the difference between two cars that are within .4-.5 second of each other, just by driving it. So there goes your inconsitency theory.

not to mention i don't know anyone that has road and track magazines laying around from 1995.so i still think you're bull shittin me.
But it's ok for you to reference Motor Trend from 94? How do we know your not bullshitting? I guess your the only one who keeps back issues of magizines.
The following isn't a direct quote. it's a couple quotes cut and pasted from the article but it's not manipulated, it's just condensed.
Motor Trend, Road Test, June 1994

hahahahaha :evillol:

so because i'm comfortable with flirting with death, i an wreckless or crazy?

riiiight.

replies like that are why i don't often post kills, b/c so many people want to berate everyone in here for doing things like that.

if you don't like it, or think it's wrong, don't read the posts.

just b/c i drive very fast and "at the limit" doesn't mean that i don't know the consequences. it's my choice to do so. and you really can't tell me not to do it just because you don't think i should.

I believe this thread has outlived its usefulness...