I'm feeling a bit disillusioned. I'm sure many of you plan to or already have swapped a B-series engine into your civic. As time ticks on, however, a b-series swap will become less and less viable. Becuase Honda switched over to i-VTEC and its K-series engines, the B-series engines are no longer a part of its "main production model lineup." While the demand for these engines is sky-rocketing, the supply is slowly but surely dwindling. According to the August 2003 issue of Honda Tuning magazine, "the supply of B-series engines is thinning out...the JDM B-series is getting harder to come by and the price has definitely gone up...the transmissions are very, very rare as well." All I have to say is...that sucks.

wow that must of taken alot of thought since the K-series motor has been out for some time now. Dude in like a year all these little fags that hopped into the scene will jump on the next fad and sell there Civic's for old 240's and join the drifting fad and the Honda scene will be badass, like it used to be 3 years ago before all these troll's came in

As much as people don't want to believe it, as the B16/18 seems to be fading away slowly, the demand and usage of D-series motors (ZC's D16Y8's and D16Z6's) seems to be increasing. This is due to the fact they CAN be built up well and strong as opposed to what people think, also since the price of B-series motors is going skyhigh, a D-series is just more budgetable even if you do have to dump more $$$ into it in the long run to get significant gains.

I just bought a B16B for $4000... doesn't seem too bad imo

Originally posted by SilverY2KCivic
As much as people don't want to believe it, as the B16/18 seems to be fading away slowly, the demand and usage of D-series motors (ZC's D16Y8's and D16Z6's) seems to be increasing. This is due to the fact they CAN be built up well and strong as opposed to what people think, also since the price of B-series motors is going skyhigh, a D-series is just more budgetable even if you do have to dump more $$$ into it in the long run to get significant gains.

In general, how much money would it take, either NA or turbo (no nitrous), to get a D-series into the 13's?

Originally posted by Thepeug


In general, how much money would it take, either NA or turbo (no nitrous), to get a D-series into the 13's?

Alot for a person with no hook-ups. Hook-ups meaning free parts.

I actually watched a buddy run a 13.8 Friday night in a 94 hatch with a 00 EX engine. He's pushing 9.5psi of turbo boost and I think a 65 shot of nitrous on top of that. Roughly estimated, $10k-$13k in mods.

Originally posted by Ricochet
Roughly estimated, $10k-$13k in mods.

Like I said.....alot.

Originally posted by Ricochet
I actually watched a buddy run a 13.8 Friday night in a 94 hatch with a 00 EX engine. He's pushing 9.5psi of turbo boost and I think a 65 shot of nitrous on top of that. Roughly estimated, $10k-$13k in mods.

I'd say that sounds about right. Beefing up the internals is what kills the cost. Figure about $4k for the turbo and nitrous set up alone.

Damn. Well that's definitely not an option.

base nitrous kit: $500
bottle fill: $42.30
blowing two D16's because you (I) didn't spend the $2,000+ on internals: priceless

Haha, sad but true.

Originally posted by Ricochet
base nitrous kit: $500
bottle fill: $42.30
blowing two D16's because you (I) didn't spend the $2,000+ on internals: priceless


your getting raped on nitrous bud.
I wouldn't think of paying over $2.00 a pound.

It was either $47, or $42.30 and a little bit farther of a drive. I don't even have that stupid crap in my car anymore so oh well.

Originally posted by SilverY2KCivic
As much as people don't want to believe it, as the B16/18 seems to be fading away slowly, the demand and usage of D-series motors (ZC's D16Y8's and D16Z6's) seems to be increasing. This is due to the fact they CAN be built up well and strong as opposed to what people think, also since the price of B-series motors is going skyhigh, a D-series is just more budgetable even if you do have to dump more $$$ into it in the long run to get significant gains.
yeah, there was an article about this in SCC. They said now that the b-series is over with, no one is able to get them as easily as they used to. A lot of people are getting them and keeping them in their hatch or what ever swap they have. Finding one, will probably mean more money, or it may do the opposite and make them cheaper since they are getting older.

So what happens when this becomes the latest craze? Got it off some randome site.

http://homepage.mac.com/jsalicru/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-07-27%2021.53.15%20-0700/Image-4E62A6F8C0B711D7.jpg

Originally posted by B16EJ1
So what happens when this becomes the latest craze? Got it off some randome site.

http://homepage.mac.com/jsalicru/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-07-27%2021.53.15%20-0700/Image-4E62A6F8C0B711D7.jpg
I can't imagine it getting any crazier than it is :D people do bseries swaps all the time. I definitely don't think the b will be forgotten

I actually watched a buddy run a 13.8 Friday night in a 94 hatch with a 00 EX engine. He's pushing 9.5psi of turbo boost and I think a 65 shot of nitrous on top of that. Roughly estimated, $10k-$13k in mods.

he cannot drive or he has serious traction issues

Originally posted by 02SilverSiHB
I definitely don't think the b will be forgotten
I never knew how great of an engine they were until I bought one. I've totally been missing out... Does any other engine have some kind of vtec which kicks in at high rpms? I don't know about your guys' engines but the B16B vtec kicks in like nitrous.

Originally posted by Ricochet

I never knew how great of an engine they were until I bought one. I've totally been missing out... Does any other engine have some kind of vtec which kicks in at high rpms? I don't know about your guys' engines but the B16B vtec kicks in like nitrous.
the new Si engine isn't really a true VTEC engine. I will openly admit to it. If it wasn't for the added displacement, I wouldn't have bought it. The new si engine runs vtec off of the intake cam only while the exhaust cam doesn't receive the vtec. The RSX type s, the JDM type R motors all have vtec on both exhaust and intake...a true vtec and thus the higher rpms. Although the vtec is still different than the older as it kicks in as soon as you smash the pedal.

So it's not RPM based it's throttle position based? Is that better? I know on my engine if you tune the vtec with a V-AFC down below 5000-5500 or so, you get a bit more torque but a huge dip in horsepower, so vtec would suck if it engaged at wot. Does your 2.0 litre (it's a 2.0 right?) pickup more than a 99-00 Si torque-wise? I know nothing about the new ones except they're a bit high in the weight dept.

Originally posted by B16EJ1
So what happens when this becomes the latest craze? Got it off some randome site.

http://homepage.mac.com/jsalicru/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2003-07-27%2021.53.15%20-0700/Image-4E62A6F8C0B711D7.jpg

Am I missing something? I can't see the image well enough to see what's there... my monitor is way dark even when its maxed out in brightness & contrast =\

It's a K24 swap. The TSX engine I believe.

Originally posted by B16EJ1
It's a K24 swap. The TSX engine I believe.

In a 5th gen hatch? That had to have taken a long ass time, not to mention be extremely hard to pull off. I've heard of K-sereis into 2001 and up 7th gen civics, but never that.

HASport already has a kit for it. It's even been done in 6th gens already. The swap is rare and maybe complex but Like I said has been done.

Originally posted by B16EJ1
HASport already has a kit for it. It's even been done in 6th gens already. The swap is rare and maybe complex but Like I said has been done.

where did u see a 6th gen civic wid a K20??? ide like to see that... sh!t, i thought it wuz kinda impossible since the K series r transverse engines... show me where u saw it, if it can be done i might try it...