At first I was all for the WRX with its unmatched handling and expandable turbo tricks, but now I'm curious if the new Altima VQ35DE V-6's torque and general comfort and modern ergonomics can outdo the scoob.

ITs a very interesting comparo ,turbo v/s n/a 30.000 plus dollars
218hp against 260 hp
but they are totaly diferents machines
I took altima over wrx.

Everyone is talking about WRX.

I give it up to wrx 0-60 is in low 5's and altima is in low 6's....plus turbo kicks in and that thing will fly.

1/4 WRX 14.1
1/4 Altima 14.4

Rather go with Nissan, no turbo is more reliable =/

WRX low 5's? Hope you are not talking about stock ones. If it is I am going to have to raise the BS flag.

Maybe with the various STi trim, but not the plain Jane WRX. I sure hope the STi makes it here.

Im gonna have to go with the WRX. My friend has one and has raced a Nissan Altima v-6 but it wasn't an SE but like it makes much of a difference anyways. The WRX won but not by much which proves valid the 1/4 miles times JBL85 put up.

In this comparo, I'd have to go with the Altima.

I have seen on i-club WRX getting low 14's. However it was around 14.3 and above. The time posted by JBL on 0-60 is totally off track. If 0-60 is in the low 5's. The 1/4 mile time should well be into the 13's.

THE OLDS WRX 99- DID 13.8 1/4 MILE ,THE NEWONES MID 14

Wrx anyday anywhere anytime ;)

I'd pick the WRX only because the looks of the car are nicer and I'm generally drawn to turbo cars anyway. ;)

WOW thats great a AUTOMATIC maxima kept up wiht a WRX, unless its an SE it doesnt have the 5 Speed tranny.....so imagine a stick.....that would make it even faster :p

Just saw this awesome looking altima....just thought it might make ya think one more time

http://freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/altima/main_stillen.html

Originally posted by jprimera
THE OLDS WRX 99- DID 13.8 1/4 MILE ,THE NEWONES MID 14

That sounds just about right. The weight increase from the stiffen chassis cause the performance to slip a bit.

Originally posted by JBL85
Just saw this awesome looking altima....just thought it might make ya think one more time

http://freshalloy.com/cars/nissan/altima/main_stillen.html

That one was shown at SEMA.

Its nice that they already are going aftermakret on the car...giving it a warm welcome :D

With all the cars using 3.5L VQ Series engine you will have a lot of aftermarket support in the next few years.

Originally posted by F20C
WRX low 5's? Hope you are not talking about stock ones. If it is I am going to have to raise the BS flag.

I would have to agree, I would say mid 5's. I would have to pick the WRX over the Altima anyday though.

147.5 weel hp for the wrx do not seems to high 4x4 about 25% trany loss ,this car is not very fast mid 14 thanks to 4x4.

It doesnt matter how much wheel Horsepower, matters how fast it can actually go. ANd for 147 AWHP thats pretty fast for the WRX

All I want to know is how anyone can favour the Altima over the WRX.

It doesnt matter how much wheel Horsepower

you think it no matter??for a 2800+lb car

ANd for 147 AWHP thats pretty fast for the WRX

that is not "fast" ,I know ther car have very good performance ,but not as well as every body said ,here in my country Chile we have the WRX since 1995 so I now what this cars are capable to do ,and the new on (the car that you have) is the slowest .
the 99-2000 have been the fasteted car hight 13 .

my sr20de with some mods can beat the 2001 wrx(stock),so that why Im telling you Im not impresse with the wrx.

Originally posted by AEstud
All I want to know is how anyone can favour the Altima over the WRX.

Not everyone wants a race car, some people use cars as daily drivers

Also Subaru isnt as reliable as Nissan, especially with the TUrbo =)

Subaru Drive Train is compleatly ass!!!!!!! My friend put intake and exhaust on it got a bit more HP and broke his central Diff. He put it back to stock and thay would not cover it under warenty. Subaru Service is compleatly messed up...

I am thinking Swap a 3.5 into the new 2002 Sentra SE-R Vspec as it should bolt right in. dunno if it will fit but hay its worth a try..

Will the VQ35DE really bolt right into the SE-R Spec-V? I know that both use the QR25DE when in 4-cylinder form, but are the mounting points the same in the Sentra so that the V-6 would fit? VERY interesting... lighter body, larger engine. When the Altima's chassis was still the concept XVL, it was made sure from the start that it would be versatile to all future drivetrains and engine configurations. But the B15 Sentra body was meant for the I-4s. I hope you're right.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by CHRIS200T
[B]Subaru Drive Train is compleatly ass!!!!!!! My friend put intake and exhaust on it got a bit more HP and broke his central Diff. He put it back to stock and thay would not cover it under warenty. Subaru Service is compleatly messed up...

All the more reason to buy a Nissan, speed isnt always everything :p :p

Damn right! Nissan power. A friend of mine has a WRX and I like it, but I get the fealing that the damn ceramic turbo would just explode if he put a boost controler on it and started turning it up to far. Its just not my type of car, its more rally aligned with that rough jumpy feal. I'd have to go with the Altima on this one 'cause I'm a Nissan man, after all, they did make the skyline :P Hmmm now here's a thought, how 'bout doin'g some work on the Altima and sticking one of those funny things they have on the GTSts on there, oh yea, a turbo. Donno if it would be more trouble then its worth but I doubt it.

For ae stud, your friend raced an new ALtima v-6 but is wasnt an
SE.? Nissan has never made a V-6 Altima until this year and is only
comes in the 3.5 SE....:rolleyes:

Altima definitively.

well the difference between a altima SE ad the S or the SL is hugh. the difference in the their aceleration time is off by like 2 seconds. nooo joke. sooo if a S or a SL put up a good fight with your friends scoob, then the SE would've definitly won. anyways for me, the altima, i love nissans.

Originally posted by AEstud
All I want to know is how anyone can favour the Altima over the WRX.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not tryin to bash the Rexys but look at it this way.
You have alot more options open to you as far as mods go if you are working with an Altima. Adding turbo and all the intake and exhaust systems that go with it, also the fuel delivery for the turbo. And while your doing this, you have a good, strong drivetrain with a solid engine to work with. Now I haven't seen for myself, but from what I have read, the scoob's drivetrain is found somewhat lacking in the strength dept. Also, with such a light car, you can only generate so much traction on launches, so once you get up there in the HP range its going to get very dangerious to drive.

they are 2 different classes in a way.....all wheel drive vs front wheel drive....in the long run a altima can be made faster drag but the wrx is going to stiff it in handling

well the atlima's handling is nothing to sneeze at either considerin that its got the same mulitlink suspension in the rear as the skyline GT-R. it handles good for its size and it can pull up some really fast lap times. the spring rate is a perfect balance between comfort and performance. it understeers alittle due to its slighty soft nature, but you can adjust to it to pull up some very respectable lap times.

Do you get more juice out of a Altima with each mod or out of a WRX

for example, intake adds 3hp and on wrx it adds 1hp...or does the does wrx get more of the gain?

jbl85 where did you get this stat from an intake on the wrx adds a hell of a lot more than 1 hp try more like 10 anyways like u said the scooby would outhandle it anyday. wrx all day everyday.

Well, it finaly happened... My friend broke his Diff. He had just gotten a new exhaust, intake, front mount IC, cold air box, aftermarket waistgate for a little more boost, and BOV. He was driving around getting somthing to eat, he double clutched from 3rd to 1st and CRUNCH!! Yet another reason to go Nissan, were the realiability is:D

intake doesnt add 10hp buddy....maybe if you have a skyline....but a little nsisan motor or a little wrx engine.....10 is like with exhaust and headers....

i wouldn't exactly call the altima's engine small. its 3.5 liters. thats pretty damn big for a japanese motor. the skylines motor is only 2.6 liters. plus i've read in the sentra forums here that they were testin out a new exhaust and it got a 17hp gain out of that 2.5 liter engine. imagine how much bigger the gain would be if it was on a 3.5 liter.

Whats the Altima's engine code? QR35DE?
*Edit*
No those are in Sentra's right? KA35DE?

nissans v6 engine is a big japanese engine but compared to american engines its small.....most american 6's are 3.8 or 4 Liters....but 17hp is a huge gain on a 4 banger

My friends wtih gsr's all say their exhaust added sooo much power, i get in the car and its not that fast....so I was just wondering what hte gain difference was on those to cars (altima wrx)

Originally posted by JBL85
intake doesnt add 10hp buddy....maybe if you have a skyline....but a little nsisan motor or a little wrx engine.....10 is like with exhaust and headers....

You might want to re-define the term little nissan motor? VQ35 is consider big in automotive standards. WTO standard is set at 3500cc as well. LS1 and other american big displacement blocks are consider huge.

You need a lesson in engines again. You are forgetting one major aspect. RB26DET has Turbo which means it will respond to mods a lot better than say a N/A engine of the same size. Same thing applies to WRX engine. There is also various aspects to it such how much was the engine tune from the factory etc.

Also intake mods on LS1 will get you 15-20 hp easy. 30-40 if you include port and polished.

Originally posted by F20C


You might want to re-define the term little nissan motor? VQ35 is consider big in automotive standards. WTO standard is set at 3500cc as well. LS1 and other american big displacement blocks are consider huge.



Yup, nissan doesn't usualy make large moters. Look at the Skyline lineup, the GTs's are RB20DET, and the GTRs are RB26DETT (thats with 279hp stock, that power figure is according to Nissan, many GTR owners would place it a little higher). The sentra SE-R uses the QR20DE, those are all "Small" compared to the displacement monsters we have here but to me (and most japanese) thats the norm, we are the crazy ones.
"Silly American need big moter, Japanese only use small one, but use it well!":D

Originally posted by Gonthrax


Yup, nissan doesn't usualy make large moters. Look at the Skyline lineup, the GTs's are RB20DET, and the GTRs are RB26DETT (thats with 279hp stock, that power figure is according to Nissan, many GTR owners would place it a little higher). The sentra SE-R uses the QR20DE, those are all "Small" compared to the displacement monsters we have here but to me (and most japanese) thats the norm, we are the crazy ones.
"Silly American need big moter, Japanese only use small one, but use it well!":D

The gentleman agreement is set at 280 ps. Skyline makes far more power than that. More like 280 hp at the wheel. How else do you expect Skyline GT-R to accomplished 4.9 if it weights 400 lbs more than Evo 7 which is also rated at 280 ps.

also like i mentioned earlier, that altima will respond to mods really well becuse of its big size. you put a exhaust i can pretty safely say that i will gain 10hp at the wheels.

10hp exh on altima? hmm...

the subaru intake is worth 10hp... its a turbo motor getting more air... it will naturally make more hp than a regular intake on a n/a car.

double clutching 3rd to 1st while moving sounds like a recipe for a bomb in any car... im sure i would blow my diff if i did that while i was moving...

He was only going about 15 or 20 mph. He wasn't mashing on it, he was just eating a burger and hadn't downshifted and he needed to be in first.

that is really fast for a downshift to 1st from 3rd... even from 2nd to 1st... for me that is tough to do even at like 10mph from 2nd... i cant imagine that being a nice thing to do to a trans, let alone your diff...

Yea but thats what the double clutching is for, you match the RPMs so your syncros don't have to do all the work. that way it just slides into gear with no trouble.

Originally posted by Gonthrax
Whats the Altima's engine code? QR35DE?
*Edit*
No those are in Sentra's right? KA35DE?

The Altima 2.5 engine is a QR25DE inline-4. The Altima 3.5 engine is a VQ35DE V-6. The older Altimas used the KA24DE, the same engine in the 240SX.

About taking modifications:

The WRX already being turbocharged can easily and cheaply add-on more horsepower with items such as intercoolers, boost controllers. You can find a good 50-100 hp from aftermarket turbo items for no more than $2000.

The Altima 3.5 on the other hand will cost a LOT to turbocharge, but in the long run, can be made to produce as much as 600-1000 hp, much like the other modified 6-cylinder turbocharged Japanese motors. The WRX being a 4-cylinder will have its limitations in how much boost it can take (probably around 500 hp max) even with all the block reinforcements. Of course, this route for the Altima will cost enormously, probably anywhere from $7000-$???, and then the sky's the limit.

As for intake and exhaust, turbocharged cars generally take the reduced backpressure better, while naturally aspirated cars prefer the freed-up breathing.

Originally posted by Gonthrax
He was only going about 15 or 20 mph. He wasn't mashing on it, he was just eating a burger and hadn't downshifted and he needed to be in first.

20 mph is a bit too much to go down to one. No reasons why he needs to do that. 2nd gear is more than adequate to do the job at that speed. There is better reason for downshifting to 1st gear however eating burger and needing to downshift doesn't cut it. I would say that's more human calculating error than mechanical failure.

Originally posted by Morpheus XIII
About taking modifications:

The Altima 3.5 on the other hand will cost a LOT to turbocharge, but in the long run, can be made to produce as much as 600-1000 hp, much like the other modified 6-cylinder turbocharged Japanese motors. The WRX being a 4-cylinder will have its limitations in how much boost it can take (probably around 500 hp max) even with all the block reinforcements. Of course, this route for the Altima will cost enormously, probably anywhere from $7000-$???, and then the sky's the limit.

I heard stock internals are probaly good for 400 ps.

Originally posted by F20C
I heard stock internals are probaly good for 400 ps.

Likely. If the next GT-R uses a turbo VQ35, it is supposed to pump around 450hp. Not too shabby at all. If this happens, then the engine should be able to get into the quad digit horsepower level with block strengthenings and higher boost, as I mentioned earlier.

Originally posted by F20C


20 mph is a bit too much to go down to one.

Your probly right, I donno what RPM you would be at in first doin 15 or so in a rexy.

For my car I wouldn't go back down to 1st gear if I am past 3000 rpm in the 2nd gear. There is only very few case where I needed to shift down to first at higher speeds. It has something to do with traction when you fish tail.

Ic ic.
By the way, how do you like your S4? I have been wanting to drive one for a while now.

A4's getting dated fast. Need to start looking for replacement soon.

Originally posted by F20C
A4's getting dated fast. Need to start looking for replacement soon.
really? What are you considering?

Originally posted by Gonthrax

really? What are you considering?

The time is not right since most of the import models are just starting to arrive. Probaly wait another year to change the car. Cars on mind right now are RX-8, Lancer Evolution, WRX STi and next generation S4.

Originally posted by F20C


The time is not right since most of the import models are just starting to arrive. Probaly wait another year to change the car. Cars on mind right now are RX-8, Lancer Evolution, WRX STi and next generation S4.

Out of those I realy like the RX-8, very nice looking car. It's performance isn't to shabby either:D

Originally posted by Gonthrax


Out of those I realy like the RX-8, very nice looking car. It's performance isn't to shabby either:D

I'll wait and see how the new Wankel Renesis 13B hold up.

You may also want to wait to see if a turbocharged model will come out.

i just caught a post from a coupla pages back in this thread...
it was stated that a light car with alot of hp would be dangerous to drive, and that is a downfall for the wrx b/c it would be light

personally, any car with awd can take a ton more power safely than a rwd of fwd car...

but...
any car with alot of hp, or a good hp/weight ratio is dangerous to drive...

f20, go with the new s4... badass car

I cant belive this post is still going.....I thought everyone agreed they were both good cars except the Subaru was faster and the Nissan was way more reliable....:D

but altima is nothing to sneeze at. that sucka is fast for a n/a family sedan.

TatII did you get one?

I cant believe that the Subaru is still ahead of the Altima

on the poll chart. According to motor week the Altima is

faster 1/4 mile. Anyway , bigger is better, and the Altima

is much better looking, not to mention more reliable..:)

Altima was car of the year last time I heard....or can someone correct me?

nah my dad really ddin't like the interior sooo hes gettin a max fully loaded SE instead. then again he always says hes gettin those cars, but it keeps on gettin pushed back. that jerk~!! hes tooo freakin lazy to go out and buy cars~!! drags me with him everytime and wbe come back empty handed!!! argh!!!

there wasn't an old WRX its all Sti before the new one and they have 280hp instead or 223 or whatever the feck it is

yes... there was an old wrx. search through files in europe, they have had wrx's for a looooooooong time

HAHA TatII, see those big yearly gaps between the years of our cars....we should have all 2002's but my dad is to lazy to buy cars, so it takes like 2 years inbetween. I was suprised he got the tundra =) Oh well its just a lot of money so I guess its a big decision ya know

heh you should check out the time gap between our cars. one is this old ass shitty dodge orion, then a 89 integra, then a 92 mpv. and now hopefully a nissan. argh they too cheap to pay for insurance!!

Come on people how is WRX not reliable?

well i'm not syain that its unrealible. i'm just sayin that its not as practical as the altima, and i would trust nissan's quality over subaru's anyday. plus their straight line speed is not that much off, and the altima, put some hi grip tires and it will corner very very well for its size.

I think WRX is the most practical you will ever need.

4 door sedan makes it easy to get in and out of rear seats.

Wagon if you needed extra cargo space. Offers more space than Altima that's for sure.

How much more do you need?

WRX handles a lot better than Altima does. AWD holds the advantage over FWD here.

Yeah insurance is a bitch, esspecialy since my sister has a 2k1 civic and she just got her license in summer, so oh well I guess my dad realizes he has to pay...not much else to do

Originally posted by flylwsi
yes... there was an old wrx. search through files in europe, they have had wrx's for a looooooooong time

not in england bud they've had turbo's for a long time which have the aforementioned 220hp but the better ones aren't WRX its STi

its Subaru Technica International

on a lighter note


Subaru was voted top of the JD Power survey numerous times in England that is the Impreza i'm not sure but i think the turbo wasn't counted i dunno

What is Wards......cuz they say the Maxima/Altima v6 engine is the best engine ever made...well I think its second to the Honda NSX motor, but that is handbuilt.....?:confused:

Me and my friend were coming back from the monster jam in his BMW 318is with exhaust, chip, intake, probably putting out around 150 hp. We pull along one of these Altimas with the 3.5 liter v-6's on the highway. we finaly hit some clear road, and both drivers stuck it at around 70. The following i found to be unbelievible, as the 1.8 liter engine slid right past the Altima!! The guy was definately on it, because he was on it till about 125.

Just giving my input here, that the 3.5 liter altimas may not be all their cracked up to be.

I still want to see the dyno on those VQ engines. I wonder if it's really putting out the amount Nissan claim it is.

uhh riiight.....the day a 318i isnt a girls car getting slapped around by my 3 liter max is the day I give that car 1 oz of respect.

I agree with you JBL, Id like to see that myself too.:D

I am POSITIVE they raced a 2.5 Litter btw.....lets see, the 1/4 on a 318i is about 17 seconds and a 3.5 maxima is under 15....so thast my reasoning.

Yea it must have been , that little BMW isnt gonna come close

to a new Maxima or Altima 3.5 SE.:o

yeah thats what i was thinkin as well. well fc20. i don't agree that a wrx wagon as more space then a altima. the interior passenger volume of a altima is 103 cubic feet. when the wagon is only 90 cubic feet. the wrx is no larger the honda civic sedan. thats why its a compact car. mean while the altima is pretty much the biggest mid size car that you can get. and its even bigger then the max. soooooooooo i would say that its more practical. also i forgot to mention. the altima's interior volume is also greater then that of a pathfinder.

Nicely rubbed in TatII, good job on proving that =)

and i also forgot to mention that sportscompact car did put the 02 altima and maxima on the dyno and they both have over 200 hp and torque at the wheels.

Originally posted by F20C
I think WRX is the most practical you will ever need.
4 door sedan makes it easy to get in and out of rear seats.
Wagon if you needed extra cargo space. Offers more space than Altima that's for sure.
How much more do you need?


TatII I think you need to read carefully what I post instead of quoting me on the wrong things.

However take a look at this. The figure I look at is a better indication of what people need in real life.

Altima

100.3 Cu. Ft. Passenger Volume
15.6 Cu. Ft. Cargo Volume
100.3 + 15.6 = 115.9 Cu. Ft. Total Volume

WRX Wagon

90.4 Cu. Ft. Passenger Volume
27.9 Cu. Ft. Cargo Volume
90.4 + 27.9 = 118.3 Cu. Ft. Total Volume


I still stand correct in stating WRX Wagon offers more. You simply cannot compare interior space offer by either Wagon or Sedan. Wagon will always have the advantage by design.

Originally posted by JBL85
Nicely rubbed in TatII, good job on proving that =)

Your reputation won't change a bit until you start making knowledgeable post.

but think about it, a wagon with allt hat extra upper storage only having a total of 3 more cubic feet then a sedan. i dunno. but i was only arguing about the altima's size. but yes, the wrx is a very very practical performance car. its jus that i' msayin the altima is bigger, and more comfortable, with more amenities to boot, plus its still no slouch of a performer.

Want to know why Wagon has all the advantage over Sedan by default?

Take a look at the dimensions specs figure in inches.

~~~~~~~~~WRX Wagon---------------------Altima

Wheelbase~~~~99-----------------------------110

Length~~~~~~173----------------------------191

Width~~~~~~~66------------------------------70

Height~~~~~~~58------------------------------57

Very clear and you already pointed out WRX is rated compact and Altima is mid-size. That's the reason why it only offers 3 more cu ft of total volume. Also shows why Wagon's are regarded as more practical choice over sedan. It can offer more space than a much bigger car.

The seats on WRX are very soft and comfortable you should go feel one for yourself. However I agree with you Altima is the more comfortable cruiser based on other factors.

thats crazy....now only about the cost.....damn still looking to buy one.....about 23k for a bone naked 6 speed maxima =)

JBL is that the price you got at a dealership after your

haggling was done?:D

www.invoicedealers.com

all thta car has in it, is a radio, alloy wheels and uhh engine with 255 horsies
im sure out the door its gonna be 25k.....you know tax and license shit...

The sticker price on a base SE here is 26,100 at the

nearest dealer.:)

you checked on invoice dealer?

WRX Mainly because of the turbo upgrade options and the already existent aftermarket support. :flash:

Yeah I love the "I blew my ceramic Turbo" mod, that has to be the best

The Altima 3.5 SE is better looking...........:flash:

No one at school has one so it would be cool.....I always have the car no one has and then everyone seems to get it....but everyone tells me teh Altima is ugly......its all good........they wont be seeing it too long when I leave them in my dust. :D :D :D :D

yeah jbl i don't understand why alot of younger peoplet hink the car's ugly. i personally think its a beautiful car.

I guess its too new of a design and you really just have to be a nissan fan, but everyone is into their Honda/Acura cars.

I agree with those who have posted who state that these two vehicles really are meant to appeal to different audiences although I find it interesting that many people here (myself included) would consider each in a buying situation.

I really do love the WRX. However, although Subarus of late have a pretty solid record for reliability, I'm still not convinced that a high strung 2.0L 4 cylinder turbo is going to best a tried and true engine like the Nissan VQ for long term durability. Also, I do find this car's rather cheap looking interior hard to look past. I know this is meaningless in the 'speed rules' derby but if I'm gonna pony up $35K (Canadian - more on this below) I expect a better looking interior.

Someone tell me if I'm wrong but in the US it looks like the base price of both vehicles is almost the same ($23K - $24K). In Canada, a base WRX sells for $35K Canadian ($21875 US) and a base Altima 3.5 SE sells for just shy of $28K ($17500 US). These rates are based on current exchange rates. Without getting into why cars on the whole are cheaper in Canada (after the exchange rate) you can see that in Canada anyway the Altima SE is a total steal when compared to the WRX. Anyways, with such a huge price difference, it becomes a lot harder to justify going with the Subaru.

Were the WRX my only car I might still find a way to justify buying it (I do live in Canada after all where the AWD can be handy in the winters!). For example, the ease with which you can modify the WRX to get more power is certainly highly appealing to me. However, since one of my other vehicles is a 94 Supra TT, I already have a summer 'play vehicle' so based on my needs and the huge price difference I pointed out above, the Altima works better for me. Heck, for the price difference I'm going to finally put the BPU upgrades on my Supra and get a set of 18" wheels and tires!

Oh yeah - I'm sure the idea is tempting for you US folks to come up here and buy a car more cheaply and then import it back to the US. However, legislation makes this a very tricky thing to do.

I own the Altima 02 3.5 V6 and have added intake, exhaust, body kit and wheels and springs and have dynometered it. ( 235 peak wheel horsepower) This car stock has more wheel power and strength than the WRX. I based my opinion on Size and power( comfort all leather) over cheap and cute( looks like a Jetta inside). When I really look at the WRX I know I made the right choice. I have yet to race a WRX but I am not worried and I will be even less worried with the supercharger due out late this year.:flash: Don't take me wrong the WRX is cool but the Altima is the God. Only my opinion

WHERE DID YOU GET THE BODY KIT?????

Stillen just released the body kit
Call Stillen Anthony Ext 174
Get the number from www.stillen.com

wow they made a kit for it already?

When I get My digital Camera back
I will post a picture so you can check it out
It makes the car tough looking

heh thats why i love nissan's. their cars look tough. (well for a japanese car atleast) but the altima has graceful smooth flowing lines. i can't imagine it lookin tough. i have to see it for myself.

I hate stillen with a passion though? any other ideas?

Originally posted by JBL85
WOW thats great a AUTOMATIC maxima kept up wiht a WRX, unless its an SE it doesnt have the 5 Speed tranny.....so imagine a stick.....that would make it even faster :p


You kinds of people make me laugh at how stupid you are :bandit:

ima going wit the WRX!:bandit: :smoka: :smoker2: :ylsuper

i picked the WRX because i dont really like the altima and plus the WRX looks sweet

with it being awd it's 0-60 should be in the low fives

I'd wait for a WRX STi for performance and looks or a Evo VII for better performance with weaker looks.

Originally posted by s7v7n



You kinds of people make me laugh at how stupid you are :bandit:


How am I stupid you jack ass. a 6 speed manaul tranny Maxima does a 1/4 in 14.3......14.3 is the best I have seen out of a WRX.....whats your point

WRX...ever heard of booooooooost? The mods respond so much better on a FI car than on a N/A...until you get the supercharger, WRX will be better. Even after the supercharger, you could always swap out the WRX's turbo with a bigger one, like a HKS GT3240 ;D

The Altima will be more reliable, and is a much better looking car, and

the Altima isnt going to lose to a wrx very bad. :)

Originally posted by GOD
Wrx anyday anywhere anytime ;)

I'm going to have to go with God on this! mmmmmmm subarus.......

watch and learn

http://fluxu8.nismo.org/videos.html

Been there done that. I just recently got my 03 wrx and a friend of mine at work just got his v-6 5 speed altima. Guess what yall. My WRX was running stock and hie altima was not!! In the end guess who saw who tailights??? Its easy fellaz! Altima was barley kissing my buTT! Could you say.....A WHOLE CAR LENGHT!!!! WRX all day everyday!

He was probabl not a good driver, if you kept the race going over 90mph, the altima will walk the WRX, I have no bias in this race as I love the wrx, but its just 240hp at the front wheels compared to 227hp to all 4 wheels = a bigger loss in hp. I thinkt he wrx has 160hp to alll 4 wheels while the altima has over 200 to the front wheels. 0-60 on the wrx is 5.4 while its about 6 in a properly driven 5 speed. If you let the race go, the Altima will eventually pull on the wrx like its nothin.

sorry but please do not revive old threads.. this one is two years old.. jbl you should know.. anyways someone please close this